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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle July 24 2025 #192681
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    so, ¿if governments can’t run grocery stores, ¿¿why can they run fire departments??

    also, this is just classic meatsuiting.

    You never bothered to prove that fire departments are always socialist or that government equals socialism. These are things you do not own. (understood these are the things you WANT to own…) You have not constructed any successful argument to the contrary.

    You need to back up and prove these things before you make your argument or it is just observable idiocy that weakens instead of strengthens you.

    The monster wearing the flesh of the thing you liked “I am that thing you love” outstretched arms “come give us a kiss”

    Firefighting precedes socialism by many thousands of years. BUT if we pretend for you, for the sake of argument, that these things ARE ackshully socialism, your thing…

    Do you not feel even a twinge of doubt grow, when, after innumerable pointing to things that work, things that humans have done for hundreds or thousands of years, saying “This is ours. We are that thing you love. That thing you love is ackshully socialism. Now kneel before zod”

    Why does socialism never do ackshully-socialism and succeed? With so much identifiable ackshull successful socialism everywhere??? “Firefighting departments are socialism, firefighting departments succeed you mccarthyist so why don’t you like socialism?”

    …doing all these successful things that are ackshully socialism ought to lead to successful socialism???? Why the extreme failure since inception of socialism in the old-fashioned, stuck-in-the-past 1800’s?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 24 2025 #192679
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    so many stuck in the past..

    Your giant-collared polyester shirt is showing, boomer.

    Calling people old-fashioned as an instant shorthand to shut people up in a college dorm room bull session in 1973 because they’re afraid of looking not-current (such policing always going left, cosmic coincidence) doesn’t work now.

    It’s like you’re driving up in a Mazda Miata current year in Fort Lauderdale trying to pick up spring breaker coeds using supercool catchphrases like “groovy” and then bringing out the big guns with “like gag me with a spoon”

    Boomers, policing each other and their parents and grandparents, now on death’s doorstep, still fighting “the man” as being un-hip, un-current, like, stuck in the past, but it’s their children and grandchildren now.

    Not to mention, you’re calling “stuck in the past” on a failed socialist grocery store happening right NOW and as an example of the failed grocery stores coming up in the near future. Ergo, the past.

    so, ¿if governments can’t run grocery stores, ¿¿why can they run fire departments??

    Thank you for confirming that, while nothing is better than anything else, (only when certain things need to be taken down a peg) ….at other times, some things ARE more equal than others.

    Always going one way – always.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 24 2025 #192667
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    “There’s No Nothing”: Empty Shelves, Rotten Odors Plague Gov’t-Funded Supermarket In Missouri
    https://www.zerohedge.com/food/theres-no-nothing-empty-shelves-rotten-odors-plague-govt-funded-supermarket-missouri

    One of the dozen or so socialist policy proposals from NYC Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani is the creation of government-funded grocery stores.

    Nowhere is this more evident than in East Kansas City, where a nonprofit operates a grocery store on government land that has become a symbol of failure, plagued by the smell of rot and empty shelves.

    How can we explain this shocking failure?

    1. Not enough people believed in it
    2. Saboteurs and secret counter-revolutionary anti grocery assholes ruined it
    3. It wouldn’t work unless ALL grocery stores everywhere were under the same program, but THEN it will work best-evar
    4. Looks like what we need is slave labor to make this work, but we can use those saboteurs and people who didn’t believe as the slaves. Then we can backfill with anybody once we start running out.
    5. It was never real socialism.

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    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 24 2025 #192666
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    “You all here say Trump is guilty of it all. Just. Like. That.”

    i’ve never said such a thing. i have consistently maintained the evil is timeless, regardless of the office holder.

    I DEMAND AN APOLOGY!”

    When in doubt, apply universal solvent.

    Deconstruction, equivocation.

    Apparently nothing is better or worse than anything else (except some evils are more equal than others)

    I’d expect if this were true, you’d rail against the waste of changing systems. Since systems are of equal value and remain so, timelessly, the great evil to fight would be the monumental cost and waste created by people trying to change to a different (same, actually) system.

    All they’re doing is wasting that most precious commodity, time, burning off energy, resources, thought, time, effort that would otherwise be available to humans for meaningful purposes.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 24 2025 #192658
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    The overlap between the Epstein list and the conspirator/corruption list is near-total. Just get them. Whichever lead you follow.

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    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 24 2025 #192656
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    SpaceX’s Starship could take you from New York to Sydney in under an hour.

    The Earth-to-Earth project skips jetlag by literally launching you into space and back down somewhere else

    Sir. Sir. what’s the lag in jetlag? Lag between what and what, sir?

    It’s the 2020’s, so I am willing to believe this person actually thinks jetlag magically comes from sitting on a plane for a long time as opposed to a short time.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2025 #192594
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2025 #192593
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    One of my relatives was CEO of Baxter. We’d go over to his place for Christmas every year or two.

    And every few years, everyone would ask (December in Chicago) why is it so COLD??? It was one of those households you take your shoes off as you come in, so this was a non-negligible concern especially for the female 50% of the family.

    One year, my father (a doctor, but from a working class childhood) checked their furnace. The air filter was totally, completely clogged. Remains of a pack of air filters sitting nearby. Did the obvious thing and changed the filter – problem instantly solved.

    The CEO’s family was super-condescendingly grateful to him. That kind of overly-pandering toned praise that makes out what you did for them as less than negligible, the help you gave lowered you to a menial servant. It was nothing and you are nothing. Also everyone was complaining about cold feet for all of Christmas, but that isn’t what is real.

    Years later, same problem. We knew why. Dad – no way am I fixing their shit again.

    Downton Abbey was heartwarming, if nothing else, because at least the people living in the manor were depicted as STRONGLY believing in the nobility of other people getting their hands dirty. If we can just get AI and robots going though, maybe we can avoid the pain and indignity ever having to go back to that. Asimov’s Solaria.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2025 #192585
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    Working in the call center, I learned that institutions do things because “this is what we do.”

    I had a reputation as the squeaky wheel. A “problem” who would ask why the fuck WOULDN’T you change something confusing employees and causing grief for customers, wasting their time? You have a duty to your stockholders, why the fuck are you insisting on uselessly draining the company’s resources through the death of a 1,000 cuts?

    “it’s just one thing” that creates little individual dramas of frustration that play out for hours, weeks, months. And you have THOUSANDS of just one things. FIX this one in front of you!

    Nevar! I am a manager, and to be managerial, I do things generally. This means not only do I refuse to do anything specific, if I discover anyone below me doing anything specific, I stop it. Specificity is NOT big-brain managerial stuff. Fool, don’t you know about the 80/20 rule? That means, everything you bring to me to fix is in the 20% category and we do nothing ever.

    This type is utterly implacable. I have tried from the perspective of company loyalty, of duty. I’ve tried based on self-advancement – if you fixed shit, would that not be a feather in your cap, a thing on your CV? I’ve tried on a technical basis, just calmly, clinically laying out what actually is happening in the real world and what could happen instead. I’ve tried explaining how stupid and useless and torturous a thing is – we are literally making our customers psychologically suffer. We could save money. We could save YOUR OWN fucking job sometime in the future by being efficient and useful NOW, sir.

    Aren’t you fucking BORED not fixing anything? Wouldn’t it be more fucking INTERESTING to pick some little thing, fix it this minute, then the next minute fix another thing, and so on, and then look back at a month, a year, and realize the immense weight of all those things you did? Might that even be a kind of fun???

    But they aren’t conservatives desiring stasis either. I’ve seen these same types warp an organization over time in awful ways. Always ok with perverting some initiative, something intended to fix a problem to something that makes it worse. It’s enough to make you start thinking of secret societies dedicated to fucking things up.

    So torture eventually means organ failure – ie we aren’t torturing you so long as we don’t KILL you in a lingering horrible way. If you didn’t lose your heart or a liver, we practically weren’t hurting you at all. Why are you being such a sissy crybaby. (oh oops we DID take out your liver that time – my bad…)

    It is not that difficult to take espionage, intelligence, security stuff, imagine it run like a call center with the kind of managers I despise, and ending up with “torture = organ failure”

    They’re implacable. Totally immune to every argument logical or emotional.

    And this is like a Charles Hugh Smith kind of observation – we made nuclear power and nuclear weapons, but we’re still in the stone age on management of human consciousness. If we could just make a study of types of people entrusted with power, create tests to weed these people out. If they were imperfect, it would still unleash massive worldwide human potential if done.

    Even people at the top of the heap, venal, corrupt, insane, evil as they may be, would see benefits because they are parasites, rent-seekers. Can they even unstop their own toilet? Fix a squeaky hinge? Change a furnace filter? ANYTHING? Basically no. We pick you up and carry you forward as a rent-seeker, a parasite.

    Your role is to be a beneficial parasite. you’re supposed to exist in symbiosis. the Good Shepherd. You fool, you are supposed to kill off all the other predators and be the alpha. Proliferating predators, saturating every single level of civilization, every potential conceivable niche, with predator-parasites, is the OPPOSITE of your job, and you really only had that one job. Get rid of all those nasty parasites and collect your rents. And you think you are super genius big brain gods walking among animals. BAD tapeworm. BAD.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 23 2025 #192578
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    “Fuck you. How do you think your hotel room gets cleaned? How do you think you have food on your fucking table? Who do you think washes your dishes? Who do you think does your fucking garden?

    DEMOCRATS:

    We’re not saying “But who will pick the cotton?” That’s a gross exaggeration. We have some other interpretation we can’t give you right now.

    No, we’re saying “Fuck. Who the fuck is fucking going to pick the fucking cotton, fuckers?”

    See? Totally different.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 22 2025 #192522
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    During the fall of the Roman Empire, when something could still kind be saved, they were lucky to have a pretty good general named Stilicho.

    Multiple times, he had barbarian invading armies on the ropes, surrounded, ready to be dealt with. This is what the Roman Empire did in the past – eliminated enemies and/or absorbed them.

    Instead, he repeatedly yielded to pressures, accommodated various interests, or just appeared to act irrationally (because historians are not party to private conversations…)

    He was wheeling and dealing. Not crushing or incorporating enemies like the old Republic or Empire, but Making Deals. He was probably a GREAT deal maker. Probably proud of it, had approval of a lot of people. While Gothic armies wandered around inside the borders of the Empire.

    You made a deal, but they are still THERE and they’re going to do what they do, occasionally breaking off temporarily for a deal before getting back to it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 22 2025 #192521
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    August is an interesting choice – that’s when my back of the napkin calculations indicated that AI development will go vertical on a development vs time graph and its requirements for full function will exceed all existing computational materials.

    Presumably this is why we all need to be gay transgender dead marxists naked in a jungle eeeting ze bugs, because every human reproducing, wearing clothing, eating non-bugs takes away from AI data centers and the power to run them.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 22 2025 #192519
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    So what were all those unescorted children doing in Ukraine when Russia evacuated them?
    How do hundreds of thousands of children worldwide disappear without ever hearing from them again. Even when they grow up?

    tons of missing children was a big story in the news when I was a kid in the late 70’s early 80’s. And what ever came of it?

    Back when things were getting more icy between the US and Russia, (around 2014-2016) I remember watching a news story covering Russia getting more “difficult” about allowing Russian children to be adopted by people in the US and Western Europe – the general gist of it was “and here’s ANOTHER way in which Russia is a big meanie”

    I distinctly remember a US State dept official being interviewed about rising geopolitical tensions, trade issues, etc – big stuff – and them replying “Well, if Russia would be willing to open up on this child adoption thing, then we could see about softening up on some of these geopolitical and global economic issues”

    The way it was presented was almost like the icing over of relations was somehow CAUSED by the change in child adoption policies. And certainly, the State Dept official saying oh just give us your children and we can change our geopolitical stance seemed particularly creepy.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 21 2025 #192463
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    A well-intentioned, reasonably competent administration would be confronting the Blob the way an air force would be confronting a multi-layer advanced anti-aircraft defense. It would have to be carefully peeled back in a particular order – akin to how defeating Vauban’s star-forts became a scientific, mathematical, progressive process.

    It’s possible the Democrats, sitting on the Epstein issue for years, had time to ruin whatever evidence was there. Delete old things, create new ones, etc. Trump often gets a general idea correct even when he doesn’t get the specifics or didn’t quite communicate it right.

    He seems to be trying to argue that real things are happening, being accomplished and that there’s some sort of red herring waiting in the Epstein issue. It’s possible Bondi is busy with quite a lot of things. And it’s possible there’s a certain amount of crucial crossover between Epstein clients and election-riggers. THAT would be pretty hilarious. Hold back on the Epstein stuff, uncover the election fraud and russia hoaxes, then go woah, guys, we found all these people from THESE lists on THAT list and by the way here’s all this extra Epstein stuff now.

    I do not claim perception of a specific plan, just recognition that it has to be a phased program. When I first read the tweet, I focused on the total buffoonery of “why are people still talking about Epstein?” but reading it again more reflectively, I see different things.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 21 2025 #192460
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    I recall reading awhile back that the part of the brain used for religious feeling is the same as or overlaps the part used for dance.

    So much portrayal of corona-compulsions and imagery while dancing during that time.

    Most people would think of it going one way – I’ve got this ritual I want to do because I believe in a thing, I’ll put a dance in it.

    But maybe you can go the other way too. Maybe watching something depicted via dance stimulates religious feelings and establishes, solidifies an association between the things depicted and religious feeling. Maybe, when presented that way, it was found ideas are not processed the same way as if someone said “Hello. I’d like to convince you of a thing today. This is the thing and here are my reasons”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 21 2025 #192459
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    The Late Show (Stephen Colbert) is being cancelled.

    It was losing 40 million a year.

    It was the most successful, most watched talk show of the ones airing – how much were its competitors losing?

    Pravda. Waterfalls of money pouring from somewhere. Continual messaging, be it explicit and overt, subtle, psychologically manipulative, coercive, or otherwise, for what people never asked for — in fact, for what people actively do not want and disliked. For years and years.

    All journalism and entertainment has been operating at a loss for years – because they have not been profit motivated — ie, they have no concern to provide, for a fee, that which their customers or viewers are asking for and would like.

    A show that’s supposed to do stand-up acts, musical numbers, and interviews, debasing itself for The Blob obsequiously, totally, completely. There is no show. There is only Blob.

    https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/stephen-colbert-late-show-vax-scene-covid-vaccine-liberalism-is-mental-disorder-police-state-democrats.jpg

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 18 2025 #192294
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    Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel

    and yet it is the Inter-Nationalists that are the most horrible, relentless, satanic, hateful, miserable, useless, degenerate people.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 18 2025 #192271
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 18 2025 #192270
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 16 2025 #192172
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    “traditional European culture ≠ the above cats. they made stuff for rich folk.”

    Marx made his stuff for rich folk. You’re so incredibly lazy.

    Go ahead and state your thesis – that you are re-imagining, are Bringing A New Vocabulary. ASK us to agree to now use the word, the mouth-sounds, the letter-combinations, of “culture” to ackshully mean “Class”

    And THEN formally ASK us to re-imagine, Bring A New Vocabulary such that “Traditional European Culture” only means Proletariat class.

    We’ll consider your REQUEST, judiciously as we will, to do violence to language and meaning and let you know if we will humor you or not.

    But your entire attempt here is on the hopes that OTHER PEOPLE do all the work for you!

    You utterly faceplant if I do not agree to a “new vocabulary” with double meanings, if I do not willingly wander around inside it. If you want me to, overtly ASK me and I will consider your request.

    Do you realize how insulting you are being to anyone reading your “argument” that isn’t an argument, but sort of an underhanded bad faith manipuation combined with a pathetic entitled begging you can’t quite have the balls to voice? You are entirely dependent on me cooperating with you here or ANY of that to work. You’re begging me to do the heavy lifting for you.

    And you just got done saying Art comes from government funding. Like the NEA grant that funded Jesus in a mason jar of pee.

    Art comes from CULTURE not government funding.

    You’re said the equivalent of – aren’t the majestic creatures in the national parks wonderful, now let’s grow meat in a lab.

    And if you look at all the government funding over the years that is corrosive to culture from any number of convergent vectors – and notice leftists enact these programs with leftist explanations of why – then you’d see that the actual real world effects of government funding on art have been apocalyptic for more than half a century.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 16 2025 #192166
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    “we really, really need to bring back government funded arts.”

    that’s a weird way of saying bring back Monarchy, Christianity, and traditional European culture, but ok

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 16 2025 #192155
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    haha I agree, Deadpool is genuinely deplorable. But it managed to be interesting!

    There was no way a bunch of straight white dudes were going to be allowed to do anything interesting and successful without it being degenerate.

    But beneath the degeneracy, they gave it a heart of gold. A big part of what made it interesting.

    It’s like they got away with a gigantic bank heist WHILE the guards and a bunch of HR ladies were watching them like hawks.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 16 2025 #192154
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    The immediate deaths and injuries from the notavax were awful.

    The consequences from injuries and disablements, the cancers and so on, are awful.

    These are NOT the worst things to come from the notavax. I haven’t seen anyone yet discussing the worst thing. We KNOW the mRNA reverse-transcribes into the DNA. We’ve discussed some of the problems from this – it made people into genetic chimeras and that’s bad when some of the sequences in the mRNA are specifically those of cancer.

    But for adults AND children taking the shots, you’re looking at a human being who has developed based on the blueprint of their original DNA. And the changes come to specific cells in the body, not ALL cells in the body. (my understanding is, the cells it affects produce spike protein, not more mRNA)

    If quite a lot of males are being made infertile or nearly so (interesting that fertility came up as an issue in the latest election campaign, my reaction being WTF why is this being made such a big deal…) then the mRNA is probably reaching the testes. Is it reaching the eggs? Maybe not so much? The eggs are already there and have a more than usually protective outer wall, but sperm are produced new, continually.

    What will a child look like who develops from the original fertilized egg on the blueprint of the reverse-transcribed RNA? EVERY cell containing the reverse-transcribed DNA and development progressing completely along its blueprint?

    Moreover, if the genetics are recessive and existing eggs can be expected to be mostly unmodified, then are we waiting two generations to see what the notavax REALLY did? 35 or so years before any significant number of babies in that generation start arriving and another what, 4-16 years before anyone starts to say hey, these kids are real different?

    There’s a variety of possibilities
    –it’s just a fuckup – awful congenital diseases, mutations, stillbirths etc
    –our lizard overlords wanted to be genghis khan – their Y chromosomes will be in all the children
    –modifications to make humans, what? Better? Worse? Obedient? Gifted? Subservient troglydytes? Art Bell stuff like alien dna? Immortal? Live only 20 years max? Who knows.

    Did they NOT study their own thing before releasing it? They threw it out there and forced millions and millions to take it because they DIDN’T know what it does?? REALLY? Incompetent shysters would release a super high tech drug that reverse transcribes new DNA into your cells instead of selling you fucking vials of distilled water?

    I understand “all the studies” that WE know are studies that look incompetent and incomplete or got hidden, but you don’t think that hiding the results or preventing proper study would be something people who KNOW what the results would be would do???

    And maybe they wanted to do just 1 thing to humanity. Or maybe they wanted to do 10 things. Or maybe there was 1 thing they really wanted and it is hidden amongst 9 other recipes with 18 different results to statistically cloud matters and in 45-50 years or so, even if a lightbulb goes off and someone says “Hey, weren’t you modifying everyone’s DNA?!?!?!” they’ll be looking through masses of data that suggest it generally fucked everyone up as opposed to 1 or more specific intended things hidden in a cloud of ostensible fuckups.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 16 2025 #192149
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    Just to make clear, to a composer/musician, that subway mural was the equivalent of putting a huge 50-foot long mural of a turd where everyone has to see it coming and going. Saying look! This is music! And I bet they put it at multiple stops. A huge daily fuck you to any remotely competent person just trying to take a train.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 16 2025 #192147
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    When I started hearing “Trump’s Patriot Pledge,” I thought oh, what wonderful things are being promised, what’s he going to do for the USA? aww.

    …and this next bit ties in with universities declaring war on 70% of the US

    Subway picture from yesterday – what bugs me isn’t the funeral ad but the screenshot to the right from someone’s DAW in Piano Roll. Displaying, apparently, the world’s most repetitive song. I’d have given the NO I CANNOT SHOW YOU, IT IS NOT READY YET, but there it is on the wall for millions to see.

    Automatic assumption these days – DEI probably involved in some way. Because the Privilege of Whiteness is to feel genuine shame at incompetence. And in the arts – provided one is not An Ally – the Privilege of Whiteness is that you have to do something interesting.

    Compare Ironheart, The Acolyte, The Rings of Prime, and the last 3 multi hundred million budget Marvel films to Deadpool. Billions in production budget, no requirement to be interesting. Deadpool, helmed by 4 or 5 white dudes that are buddies – had to be interesting.

    I’m not saying white dudes are superior, I’m saying there are different requirements coming from DEI. Non-AnAlly™ White People are required to be interesting. Don’t blame me. I don’t make these rules.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 13 2025 #191999
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    The kids in the classroom who were educated on socialism, believed in socialism, understood socialism, stated it was the best system, and agreed to run the grades as socialists….

    Morons! Poltroons! Probably Capitalist infiltrators and sabateurs.

    Socialism is that which always, always works, so definitionally, they were not socialists!

    Even if their grades were simply averaged amongst all of them so each could give according to their abilities and each could receive according to their needs

    Clearly even if everyone believed in it, everyone understood it, and the system itself was socialist – even if every component part was identifiably socialist and you cannot pick any part that was not socialist, it failed, ergo, not socialist.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 13 2025 #191998
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    THERE

    ARE

    NO

    SOCIALISTS*.

    Bravo!

    When you see all these whackos running versions of marxist intersectionalism and marxist critical theory, Cloward Piven, and essentially EVERYONE is now tired of their shit, pissed at them, has some familiarity with their “new vocabulary” and hates it..

    THAT’S when you know Real Socialism Isn’t Currently Being Tried.

    The exact moment you captured, frame-by-frame, that it wasn’t going to work.

    Aha! None of these socialists are socialists!

    1. Socialism fails again
    2. Current people saying the word “socialism” are the ones failing
    3. Ergo, there are no socialists!

    Ipso facto. other latin stuff like that.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 13 2025 #191989
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 13 2025 #191988
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    Americans who fight for other countries, including Ukraine and Israel, should be stripped of their US citizenship

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    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 13 2025 #191987
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    Socialism is literally illegal under the Constitution; not expressly, but at each point where we “Cannot take property without due process” etc, it would be struck down. Such that installing any platform of Socialism is, in fact anti-American. I actually don’t want it to be that way, and they are free to have their party and speak their opinions, but reality is.

    No Socialism is perfectly legal everywhere.

    ANYONE can buy 40 acres, 400 acres, 4,000 acres, 40,000 acres — together — and then live communally on that land. ANYONE can do it. GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

    They WON’T do it. The one thing they will never, ever do is just go ahead and do it and leave everyone alone.

    They’ve even got so many trust fund babies and champagne communists now that they could just secretly keep pouring money into the project AT A LOSS to “prove” how “well” it works. The most obviously workable lie?

    But no sir, that does not compute, it is all about making OTHER PEOPLE do stuff, taking OTHER PEOPLE’S stuff. Us faking communism Really Being Tried and “working” OURSELVES?!!?!?!? No sir. Does not compute.

    They cannot even try genuinely faking it!

    And when a teacher hears that her entire class thinks Socialism is the best system, the only one that works — every single class member a believer — and she makes the grade system socialist, everyone gets an F.

    Were they oppressed in class? no, they had the same resources as when they were passing

    Did they lack “access” to “resources”? no, they had the same resources as when they were passing

    Was privilege getting in the way? no, they had the same resources as when they were passing

    but the entire class dropped to an F

    did they not believe enough? saboteurs? evil capitalists secretly thwarting them?

    NO every single class member was a true believer. Hardly anyone was flunking before. EVERYONE flunked once they adopted a socialist grading system.

    No one can explain to me how, in this class, real socialism wasn’t being tried.

    But anyway, anyone can freely share their shit freely with anyone else. It is totally legal. Just DO it. There’s MILLIONS of people now in the US who thinks Socialism is the Best but they refuse to do any Socialism while pointing at historical Socialists saying they weren’t trying socialism. Won’t pick up and carry their own socialism even!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 9 2025 #191785
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Hate to break it to you jb- but we no longer have a functioning Republic.

    And yet while all over Europe, if somebody wants to send a mean tweet, or fly their national flag on a street, or discuss matters of government immigration policy, they go to JAIL.

    Everybody focuses on what Americans AREN’T doing, but it seems like by a strategy of inertia, of staying true to our constitutional forms and our societal traditions, something is working to some extent, otherwise we’d be just as in-the-shit as all the rest of you.

    There were mandates, there were notavax firings, but the threatened vax card requirements did not materialize as they did in New Zealand, for instance. How did Austria do?

    My point is:

    1. We are your fellow victims, targets.
    2. Something about our nation, culture, is working BETTER

    I only mention 2 as a RESPONSE TO condemnation of me and my countrymen as being part of The Blob by virtue of communal guilt. Oh we are part of the Blob are we? Then why are we doing better on free speech? You see? Don’t take my retort TO an argument in a frame of argument-by-amnesia.

    The Republic is not dead while people hold its values. That the Blob is freaking out playing whackamole STILL tells you that THEY think this is the case, so why don’t you?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 9 2025 #191781
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “And there’s people posting here who devoutly disagree with this ”

    don’t you understand that you voted for your enemies?

    by the non sequitur you inform me that, like a chess player who cannot think 2 moves ahead, you cannot track a conversation past the comment right in front of your nose.

    There are people here who disagree with you – namely you, and I had given you enough credit as a good faith actor and not an idiot to get it, but you’re showing us all

    …but since you seem to think arguing-by-amnesia is a strong move, I’ll remind you of the sequence of events

    You’ve condemned Americans as evil due to communal guilt, one with the evil blob

    I pointed out the evil blob is attacking… SOMEONE and they live in America – they are Americans.

    Most readers understood implicitly the Blob is not punching itself.

    You were able to self-identify as this addressing you and responded

    “if you want to win this war, understand that your enemies haven’t believed in the idea of “countries” for many decades now.”

    Which is a re-frame in which you get to say what I’ve saying, my very point, then posture as if it wasn’t my point, and I was naive and you were going to inform me of my own point THE VERY ONE YOU WERE RESPONDING TO

    as is “don’t you understand that you voted for your enemies?”

    Total fuckery, but anyway…

    So we can take that you are saying you were wrong the other 12,741 times you took the other side. Thank you kindly.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 9 2025 #191775
    jb-hb
    Participant

    one other major piece of fuckery to do with “immigration”

    undocumented means no MEDICAL VACCINATION RECORDS

    Holy truths!

    –everyone must vaccinate!
    –you vaccinate to protect OTHER PEOPLE, not yourself
    –everyone else needs to vaccinate or YOU are not safe!
    –everyone ought to have vaccination documentation or be denied everything (commerce, social events, travel, etc)

    How about 20 or 30 MILLION unvaccinated persons with ZERO vaccination records? Way, way preferable to 20-30 million unvaccinated MAGA Americans? Yes, totally!

    Democrat: oh, but that’s WHY we vaccinate! So we are protected and can allow the immigration

    No.

    YOU believe vaccines do not protect the vaccinated

    YOU believe everyone else must be vaccinated in order for vaccines to protect a person

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 9 2025 #191773
    jb-hb
    Participant

    To be fair, it isn’t immigration MAGA oppose. It is illegal immigration. In other words, what MAGA wants is law and order restored to the USA.

    What Democrats and Internationalist-Globalists never want to discuss is illegal vs legal immigration.

    If you think we need higher immigration, why don’t you focus, in your political platform, on the yearly immigration figure we should raise the law to????

    Because any figure you could publicly endorse would be far, far less than what you have supported occurring ILLEGALLY for years and years and make you look ridiculous.

    Because any figure that you actually WANT that you could STATE as your goal would immediately be subject to analysis and be revealed as ridiculous, horrendous, etc.

    “Democrats cannot tell the difference between legal and illegal immigration” the same as they cannot “understand” per capita – because it is more pragmatic to “not understand” — they always know what to not understand or what to be deaf and blind to, to pass over, never react to, never answer.

    That conversation with my blue square relative — she wants BOTH Open Borders and No Battlefield Weapons

    An open border does not mean individual barefoot people crossing the border on foot with a 30’s hobo bag/stick. It means industrial scale transport. Trucks, rail, aircraft, backing logistics, supporting funding and bureaucracy.

    Those same resources in play, while we insist on not LOOKING at anything and not DOCUMENTING anything — because the holy “undocumented” status is what we are trying to preserve at all costs — means that full auto machine guns, RPG’s, whatever, can come across without limit, without quota, without checking anything — open borders means NOT CHECKING.

    Come to the gun store with me tomorrow and I’ll help you inquire on the availability of battlefield weapons. Cmon, it will be a fun bonding outing between relatives and generations — hell no! — because you know just what NOT to discover or realize.

    We also know to always just say “immigration” and not “illegal” because we know NOT to be aware of, discuss:
    -massive shipments of drugs killing millions
    -human trafficking (slavery that you hate so much and dwell on conversationally)
    -human trafficking (rape and abuse of females you hate so much and dwell on conversationally)
    -human trafficking (pedophilia and statutory rape you.. uh… think concern ABOUT is icky because…. er… not quite sure why but definitely sure?)
    -quasi slavery below minimum wage illegal labor (WHILE you argue that minimum wage is too low! WHILE you say we [you] cannot live WITHOUT below minimum wage quasi slavery illegal labor)
    -use by illegals of public funds for free education (while you complain there’s not any money for free education for americans)
    -use by illegals of public funds for medical care (WHILE you complain there’s not any money for free health care for americans)

    I could go on, but if they just stated what they want as a platform, we could openly debate it. They’re just such miserable shits that they will never be a good faith actor and just TALK.

    …because all the effects of open borders and all the other policies they advocate, while disorganized, irrational, a total clusterfuck ARE TOTALLY COHERENT in the sense that they are convergent on a goal.

    Stupid westerners assume a good faith actor expressing IDEAS when the forms OF expressing ideas are seen.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 9 2025 #191772
    jb-hb
    Participant

    if you want to win this war, understand that your enemies haven’t believed in the idea of “countries” for many decades now.

    And there’s people posting here who devoutly disagree with this – they think, quite forthrightly, IF you are an American, then we do believe in nation-blobs and you cannot escape collectivism as applied to guilt. One weird exception.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 9 2025 #191725
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Back when AFKTT was posting here, I asked him how his Climate Meltdown fit with the Notavax

    If you think 7 Billion dead humans is, as Jesus Jones would say accepting their first and only music award, “A Good Start,” then how do you NOT think the Notavax, which sterlized Billions, killed millions, WILL kill many millions, is not the best thing to ever happen?

    …because it seems like you took some time to rail against the Notavax for street cred here simply for the purpose of promoting your Critical Theory as applied to Climate. Unless you can explain.

    …which he never did.

    So as Catherine Austin Fitts says,

    the weaponization of everything. It’s the weaponization of all the different systems we use, including food, health and finance. . .. There are literally injections that are bioweapons, and this is the weaponization of our healthcare system

    The poison we are getting is being delivered to us on purpose. It is high tech, and it’s not just in the CV19 bioweapon injections. Fitts says, “We are ingesting these nanoparticles or nanobots

    Surely those who object to a distinction between the parasite and the prey, who call Americans evil (and whose country has less free speech and far less right to bear arms) end these sentences with “…and that’s a good thing”

    All those good, decent people you’d want as your neighbor are, thank goodness, having war waged on them from every vector. Clearly, the responsible parties are the plucky insurgents #RESISTING the evil USAians.

    Working in the shadows, killing and maiming through every sneaky ploy, fighting as much with memetic propaganda as with physical poison. Rigging elections to stop those evil Americans from having their way, stuff like that. HEROES, amirite?

    #RESISTING all those Americans.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 8 2025 #191644
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Do remember the definition of Mandate – a thing the government gives their sanction to, asks you to do, says would be nice to do, but is voluntary, not legal to force on anyone.

    To crush spirits and force slavish obedience to Mandates is a violence against language itself

    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 7 2025 #191591
    jb-hb
    Participant

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    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 7 2025 #191590
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Didn’t take long for the first policing attempt – herd me back with something oblique and spread-out enough to be hard to have a discussion with? Just re-assert the frame through poetry and song to re-establish the myth.

    But sure, you lost some trees, but you got AMERICA in exchange!

    That is a really, really great trade. You got the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, a free-speech values society, Aaron Copeland, Kurt Vonnegut, Jazz, Rock, the Chrysler Building, so many good and decent people are living and have lived out their lives in America .

    YES giving particular trees a “chance to live” by not having had America would have let those trees live and stopped America …but just reflect on how many trees Americans have planted!

    In the first Trump administration alone, millions of trees were planted by America!

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    in reply to: Debt Rattle July 7 2025 #191586
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Sweden just passed a law for websites like Onlyfans.

    It prosecutes people for PURCHASING Onlyfans content. Does not prosecute people selling.

    Ohhhhh so it IS actually possible to see, apprehend, the existence of clients? It’s actually NOT outside of human faculties to grasp the concept? Huh.

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