Debt Rattle November 11 2022

feel the amnesty feeling… https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/the-dilemma-of-the-unvaccinated?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=583200&post_id=83729997&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

Only in Canada? this at the convoy inquiry use of the emergencies act.

@mitchell_kelsie

#fyp #freedom #trudeaumustgo

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I reckon Trump is done if Desantis runs. A lot of folk will vote fror Desantis but not for Trump , they want to move on. Trump tried to humiliate Desantis already but it backfired. Lotsa big money for Desantis from the finance crowd , they want him because he is one of them. He may pushback on some of the social issues but essentially he is a status quo man.
What humiliation , what a debacle , even I a former Russia supporter is embarrassed for them.

Topwar.ru, Russia’s most popular military news portal, published a scathing op-ed about the decision to abandon the city:

So, Kherson is finished.

The city is being handed over without a single shot being fired, and it was not even handed over today, but a little earlier, when an organized withdrawal of all comers began.

We have repeated Gostomel, Bucha, and Krasny Liman—only on a somewhat larger scale. 115,000 Kherson residents (data from the Ministry of Defense) became refugees, having lost everything: housing, work, property, prospects. […]

Now for several days we will listen to a stream of completely shameless propaganda, the purpose of which is to justify what happened. […]

But our shameless propagandists will justify anything. They’ve been paid. And they’ve already started to explain that Kherson was not needed at all and stuff like that.

The world’s second-largest army continues its heroic flight … But that’s not the point. The main thing is that a subject of the Russian Federation has been abandoned. […]

The bottom line is that today Russia is losing the remnants of self-confidence of the so-called “Russian world.”

And so on. The commentary ends with an appeal to the Kremlin:

The Russian government, which conducts the special military operation so splendidly, needs to understand the main thing that it (they) stubbornly refuses to understand: what they call the SMO is an ordinary war for the rest of the world … it’s time to start [really] fighting. […]

I can go on and on about what Russia should be doing besides the stupid destruction of its citizens.

Russia’s leadership must put aside its “business interests” and conduct a “real war,” the op-ed implores.
That about sums it up, retreating inside their own brand new border. If the Ukys look like blowing the dam , which I doubt , why does not the second strongest military in the world STOP THEM?

Another chosen one robbing the people blind. This was rampant in Germany in the thirties, that’s why they looked for a solution. Now however they have got it all sown up , now now , that would be antisemitic of me to say that and there are LAWS against that , meanwhile laughing to the bank.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/here-are-all-funds-are-about-lose-billions-ftx

John
let the non-dualists eat cake!

Redneck said

I reckon Trump is done if Desantis runs.

DeSantis is the Democrat nominee for the GOP ticket. MSM are going wild promoting him, as are the usual comment bots in places like ZH. The election fiddlers obviously wanted DeSantis to come out on top in order to sabotage Trump, the same way as in 2024 they will be adding GOP votes in order to make the election appear to have enough voters to be legitimate … very unlikely that the Trump supporters will vote in huge numbers in 2024 … the one lesson from this election is that it is a waste of time, other means need to be found.

Having said that, a lot of the Trump candidates were complete tools, I cannot see such a lame team taking the reins. Also, the election was held on guns and abortion – are these the only policies allowed in US elections? – and nobody considered what had happened over the last 2 years …. it is not that long ago … can you remember? Covid, lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mask mandates, police accosting people they didn’t like the look of (ooops, that always happens), all the tax-payer money going to Ukraine, Democrat murder of carbon fuels, Democrat murder of the food industry etc. No, you had forgotten? No wonder the USA does not discuss these subjects, the election is about abortions and guns. Democracy, even Hitler would prefer it to the authoritarianism of the fascist or communist or corporatist variety. The American people are so simple it again reminds me of the cat and the laser dot …. what to do eh? Who cares other that those who insist on living there?

Amazon is now a joke, you go through their pages and most stuff is out of stock. I cannot believe it is because of supply issues, it looks as though they are deliberately trying to suffocate the market. Very interesting from an external to USA point of view; a bit annoying if you are a USA citizen that has come to depend on these people. An alterntative is AliExpress.com, they are shipping anything you want, which is why the lack of supply to Amazon appears to be a fake. AliExpress and AliBaba are still shipping everywhere, maybe Amazon just forgot to order stuff?

Mothers are being attacked, 3 ways, to get their kids vaccinated
But it’s the sheer volume and influx of children with RSV (respiratory syncytial virus), influenza, COVID and other infections that’s overwhelming hospitals. Some seasonal bugs, particularly RSV, are showing up earlier, and in higher numbers than they normally do.
(Seniors, in care homes, are all vaccinated and no longer used by the propaganda machines.)

My personal experience with the flue this week

day 1. normal drippy nose increased to constant drip. Isolating.
day 2. sore throat, tested negative for covid, increase vit D to 5,000 (5 capsules), Zinc 50
day 3. more of the same, producing phlegm. Added nasal spray to reduce dripping and sore throat and added melatonin to help sleeping. Another negative test for covid.
day 4. symptoms are reduced. Still using the medication treatment.
day 5. symptoms still reducing. Continuing same treatment. So far, lungs are not affected.
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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/the-pullout-from-kherson.html
The Pullout From Kherson
Ukrainian move into the area should be responded to with effective artillery fire.
(Surely, the coordinate locations are all on a GPS map to guide artillery barrages)
The concept of deep battle and deep operations should be reapplied.
(Armchair generals should read the manual)
https://www.cna.org/archive/CNA_Files/pdf/russian-military-strategy-core-tenets-and-operational-concepts.pdf
Russian Military Strategy: Core Tenets and Operational Concepts
Michael Kofman, Anya Fink, Dmitry Gorenburg, Mary Chesnut, Jeffrey Edmonds, and Julian Waller
With contributions by Kasey Stricklin and Samuel Bendett

But the big push does not need to be solely militarily.
A further significant damage of Ukraine’s economy via its electricity network is an additional option.
To severely interdict/destroy its military supply lines from the west is another option.
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Europeans pay twice three time:
1. billions for “True Solidarity”, (operating Uke budget)
2. double energy prices
3. support for millions of refugees

• Energy Bills In Europe Are 90% Higher Than Last Year (OP)
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Scoglio might be right, but he’s engaged in a few techniques worthy of the very best Con-men, Used-car salesman and propagandist. I mean, didn’t your eyes instantly glaze over when he/she (hat tip to Dr. Day) referenced mass/weight of tiny things without providing the reader a frame of reference?

So, Scoglio”s “negative theory” on spike replication should hold up against all invaders.

How then would Scoglio explain any of the following?

1. Obligate intracellular organisms: reproduce within host cells think Francisella tularensis

2. HIV and its target host the CD4 cell (slim disease might ring a bell)

3. HZV residing in the Trigeminal ganglion

4. Prions are self-replicating proteins associated with diseases such as Mad cow

I realize today that the “Elite Inbreds” situation is truly appalling, but look at it from their point of view: Every day they must get up and work with us. They can never escape us. Because all and every bit of their power can and does only come FROM us. So no matter what they do, no matter how much they hate, despise, and belittle us, tomorrow for them they are only down in the mire, in a pigsty with us deplorable vermin all over again, another day having to manipulate, convince, direct, control, and murder us all over again. Covered with s–t and not gods at all. A Sisyphean state for all eternity.

Back when I worked for a ginormous corporation that eventually fired me for not taking a shot that doesn’t vaccinate, there was a recurring pattern.

I’d be put in a job position, trained, given my responsibilities, metrics/deliverables to meet etc. …and then find that for some essential parts of the task, I had to stop and ask someone else’s permission. Always someone else’s permission who had less knowledge of the situation and of the job.

Sometimes everything had to go to some faceless locationless backoffice group who clearly had a quota to meet. They were allowed to reply with clarifying questions. If we didn’t reply to questions within a certain time period, they could close out the request with no work done. Therefore there were ALWAYS questions, regardless of how detailed, concise, and complete the request was. Because it’s easier to ask a question that was already answered than do an hour’s worth of work.

Or it would go to a supervisor. These requests were relatively easy because of daily interaction with that person, prior experience at our level, etc. But it still took time to compose the request, have a conversation explaining the request, wait for them to get out of a meeting, not be having a day off, etc.

When TPTB realized the sups were making rational, reasonably quick, confident decisions, they’d push the decision back another step. We would need to email the sup with a written request. The sup could then send a written request to some faceless locationless person elsewhere asking permission. We couldn’t ask those people directly. We had to ask a sup to ask them. For core tasks within our own job. For all I know, those backoffice people had to ask yet someone else for permission. In some cases, I verified they DID.

Basically, whenever TPTB realized someone was sizing up the situation for themselves, deciding what would be right, and then doing it …they simply could not stand it.

Their coping method was that someone ELSE would decide. But as soon as they realized someone ELSE was sizing up the situation for themselves, deciding what would be right, and then doing it they’d freak out all over again and push the decision-making power to yet some other entity.

They simply cannot stand that process existing in just ….some PERSON out there, just having the NERVE to DO it – size it up, decide what’s right, do it.

They seem psychologically relieved when it appears to them that no one can do this. But of course, that’s exactly what they NEED from everyone in their company. And they’re always trying to stop it.

With the advent of semi-sophisticated algorithms, they were absolutely jubilant. FINALLY they could have NOBODY making decisions. They developed a algo based web tool that we were all supposed to consult and obey. C-suite people were on announcement videos sent company-wide saying things like:

“It’s AI!!! It’s AI!!!”

and

“Trust The Robot!”

They really truly thought they would be free of us while still able to use us.

But all the same things were in play as ever in a bureaucracy. They are the ones directing the programming of the “AI Robot.” They are the ones measuring and deciding what to measure. They are the ones living in the toxic soup of clueless maniuplative middle managers and project managers THEY selected advising them on what to measure, how to measure, what the “data” means, and what orders to give via “robot”

They really, sincerely seemed to think an algo meant they’d never have to let another human being act on their own perceptions and judgment again. I’m not sure I ever saw upper mgt happier.

But of course, one of the first rules you learn as a worker- DON’T inform management about the job except for existing problems you want solved (which they will not solve anyway) NEVER tell them what you do that WORKS. If you tell them you are doing rational things yourself, they will have a heart attack and put a stop to it ASAP. Workers protectively guard the vital information from the algo-users. We won’t tell you what’s vital and we sure won’t help you decide how to figure out what is vital.

Occasionally there’d be some process that would be causing endless grief for workers and customers, cost to the company. We’d tell management for 6 months, a year, no change.

I discovered if I found myself, in a meeting, training, or something where a middle manager was, there was another method available for fixing problems. If I worked it into conversation somehow that this problem was an ADVANTAGE to workers, if I put on a snide, smug face and voice, made out purely by TONE that we were getting away with something (getting away with accomplishing some task within the job as opposed to doing something bad!!!), that I thought I was clever knowing it…. within 2 hours of getting out of the meeting, there’d be a department wide, caps, boldface email putting an end to the hated process.

They were so stupid. If they had asked me ANYTHING about the problem, I’d have had to admit I had no details proving it was something we were getting away with or benefiting from. My act would have fallen apart at the touch of a feather. But they would never, ever ask. They would witness my smug, shitty aren’t-I-clever act and just move to stomp on it via email asap. So dumb. The same manager that wouldn’t fix the issue for a year would fix it in 2 hours if I played on their compulsive dread.

This was a consistent 20 year experience while process document owners, managers, VP’s, CEO’s, company names changed. Somewhere in the culture of the company, the bureaucracy, there was kind of a standing wave, a continuous thing no matter who came and went.

Just mind your own business and let us get things done. But that’s what they cannot stand.

The CTH piece on ballots vs. votes is the only thing that makes sense. Even here in Oregon they passed a law last year that says ballots can be valid if postmarked on election day, whereas before they had to be received on election day. Gives them another week to massage the numbers.

I am not the only one who sees this, either – it was the subject of conversation with a diverse group of five people in the chiropractor lobby yesterday, all five nodding in agreement. I think the DNC- Team Obama goal all along has been to dial up the brazen thuggery and thievery to the point of inciting a violent reaction from the people, so they can fund and deploy their “domestic terrorism” armies. It’s what they do overseas with the color revolutions, so why not do it at home?

Years ago an uncle said that mail-in balloting in Oregon meant we would never elect a Republican governor again. Everybody laughed at the time, but turns out he was 100% correct.

Not my President.
Not my Congress.
Not my Governor.
Not my state legislature.

Out on a limb for Kherson. Anyone want to take up the issue that Ukraine will blow the dam if anyone gets in there? A human rights crime? They’ve been shelling it for weeks?

Okay, Russia moves across, with a huge plain in front and a river crossing in the back. They should just lazily do this? What’s the solution? General Armageddon said “he would make uncomfortable choices”. Withdrawing would seem to fit that bill. We’ve seen him non-stop, and perhaps even ham-fistedly attempt to feint the Ukrainians – actually, why bother? – Feint the Brits and Americans into attacking at points of his choosing, aka “A Trap”. They have not jumped at them, but Kherson is the biggest wounded bird they’ve ever flapped. How can London ignore it? They MUST have it to make a mess of Crimea, but as it’s a Steppe on a river bridge, instead or Russia, London and the Poles would be in the artillery fire and dam floodplain. And this is a Russian defeat? At the same time, Putin isn’t taking a political hit for it, despite the wounded bird routine.

Wait: unless you BELIEVED what reporters, the news media said. They said it? Russian news, which is known to be the most Western infiltrated or influenced of any body in Russia? And you took what they said seriously? How’s this: “They said it, therefore it is a lie.” That better?

Russia is fighting A Land War in Asia. I don’t know how many times I have to say this. You do not use Kentucky rules, or Melbourne rules, who basically never fought a war. Russia has a tactic, had it for 1,000 years, and it always works so why change it? You trade men for territory. Because there is so much territory, the land is worthless. However, Slavs are few, and the front line is huge.

Over time, almost a year now, Russia instantly, constantly withdraws to cede territory in exchange for men. They lost so much doing this, they now own ¼ of the country! Oh noes! Because with “A Land War in Asia”, there’s nothing out there. Just open plains. They only thing stopping any movement is 1) the other army 2) rivers. Once the army has no men, Russia can go wherever they like.

If Russia loses no men, because they trade land to save men, they can fight this for 500 years. Ukraine is doing the opposite: trading battalions to gain cow pasture. #Winning!

Am I crazy here? What is the single Russian defense measure? That they have enormous territory between them and the idiots in the West who like attacking Russia and losing. That’s why they keep Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine in front of them, and exactly why NATO wanted to encroach all these countries and remove this safety. …While, as we just admitted, change to first-strike nuclear protocol.

Surely Russia would NEVER trade territory for men, always R E T R E A T before an advancing army? That would be LOSING, wouldn’t it?

History Lesson: Russia RETREATED East of MOSCOW for Napoleon. Napoleon had the entire empty city of Moscow for his leisure. It was sacked freely, Russia gave no defense. Yay Leon! Did they lose then? How was Napoleon doing? Do they speak French in St. Petersburg now?

No. The combined Western army of Napoleon, the entire combined forces of Europe minus Britain CEASED TO EXIST. That settled anyone going to war for a while and they didn’t try anything so stupid with Moscow for 100 years after.

If you have a Land War in Asia, trade Men for Land. Land is utterly worthless without the men, and Slavic men are precious and few. Russia agrees and is behind Putin on this move. They can only DREAM that London will be so idiotic and suicidal as to move their army into Kherson, where Russia can shell them at will from far across the river. If I can shell them, but they can’t advance and stop me, is that losing? How, exactly?

What would I do, retreating, getting my hyperventilating 5th column Russian Press to lose their minds at home? Like this: Ukraine moves forward. They have success, the shelling is not so bad! Surovikin amasses forces out of range but can’t cross the river. Russia is losing! All expected. Then because of the maneuvers and feints of two big armies, Surovikin is able to ACTUALLY amass an army without Ukraine “noticing” – a thing he could not do right now. This army is amassed to the north, above the dams, perhaps by Zap, floods through, and not only can’t be stopped, it therefore cuts off the now-amassed London army from Kiev and their supplies out of Poland. Depending on the men tied up, they reach Odessa from the center of the country, not the south. Either quickly — or more likely, eventually.

…For just one scenario. But you understand they can’t amass 300,000 Russians at Kherson without 1) Proving exactly what their plan is and 2) having the army be shot up more or less constantly as they attempt to trickle across the river…WHILE Ukraine definitely drops a dam on them. Was that your war plan and idea? Of what they should do, are required to do according to Anglos sitting safely 10,000 miles away? ‘Cause it sure ain’t mine. And apparently not General Surovikin’s either.

It’s just plain stupid. Russia is 10x Ukraine’s size. Spoiler alert: Russia wins. So should they be reckless, put half an army in harm’s way just because they’re annoyed, impatient and English bloggers tell them to? No. Get them the h– out of harm’s way, and keep on reducing home casualties, every day.

If only our Anglo armies would do the same. But this is Biden’s Slavic genocide, after all. Why help London by killing your own Slavs?

“Combined with our human propensity for a myriad of errors this makes it pretty hard to get much of anything right, especially if we depend wholly upon “thinking” to get us there. Tossing a coin would probably work better.”

I hear ya, DBS. It is disheartening to realize that the odds are stacked against us when it comes to ferreting out the truth. Not only are we mentally challenged, we also possess so many character defects, vanity and fearfulness being just two examples, any one of which can lead us astray. When they all assert their influence together reality is warped beyond recognition.

The problem I see with the “coin toss” approach is that it removes the burden of choice from the man whose development requires that he do the additional mental work needed to tip the scales in one direction or the other. This, I believe, is when growth occurs: when circumstances stretch us past our current limits. Also, as we regularly exercise abilities such as self-control, honesty, proportionality, perspective, and fine tuning, even higher faculties that are still dormant begin to awaken.

I know you are aware of all this, and that your coin toss statement was meant as sarcasm, but I needed to think it through for myself in order to see how relying on chance could hinder one’s development.

This part is wrong in the OffGuardian story about mRNA “vaccine” products not actually leading to human cellular production of spike-protein:

“But alas, the ribonuclease enzymes are also inside the cell, they are called endocellular ribonucleases, and they would dispose very quickly of the minuscule amount of mRNA.”

The mRNA in the “vaccine” products is modified to be “undigestible” by these RNA-consuming enzymes. It’s like driving railroad spikes into a redwood-tree to break the chain-saw.
It was supposedly the case that nobody knew how long it would take this protected-mRNA to eventually break down. Last year 6:6 people who had been “vaccinated” with Pfizer and Moderna products,
6 months after their second dose, all had circulating spike protein in blood samples. This stuck in my head at the time, summer 2021.
Sorry I don’t have the link i think it was on Dr. Malone’s prior blog. It was Dr. Malone’s lab. Some distrust him. He’s sure not getting rich or popular for what he’s doing these days.
I think he’s principled.

wtf is it with de-personing celebrated doctors, forcing state employees to inject or lose their job etc in November 2022? We’ve known for over a year and a half they are dangerous, worse than ineffective, and still experimental. Nobody even knows what’s in them, really.

Is it me or does the impulse to continue to inject come off, almost as like an unreasoning, irrational lust for reproduction? Like the Xenomorphs in the Alien franchise?

One starts to think in terms of science fiction

Strategic Interests — we’re on the cusp of waging war based on microbiology, nanotechnology, and drone swarms. Worse yet, you can end up being in such a war and not know for sure who is waging it on you. Everybody is deploying their primitive nanotech to be ready for the new microbiology/nanotech war, hopefully a cold war. Possibly such a war is underway and the weird behavior of different countries reflects that?

Masters Of The Universe Want To Live Forever — Powerful parties are aging and almost out of time. Only way to get to longevity or immortality is a crash program running MANY simultaneous experiments on billions of humans.

Aliens — See Vernor Vinge’s A Deepness in the Sky. Aliens have lurked in our solar system until we acquired sophisticated enough wireless and internet technology. They’ve studied us to figure out what #%^s us up the most. Individuals, societies, nations, etc. Having fully owned our networks, computers, money systems, political systems, etc, they’re ready to have us destroy ourselves. Or like Rendevous With Rama, we’re going to build the stuff that assembles the aliens for them while getting rid of ourselves. Because, over light years, it’s easier to transport blueprints than to transport life forms. Maybe even inside ourselves.

Aliens 2 — Only wackos would visit us. They could do any number of better things with the necessary resources. They could just send a spy satellite to sit there in stealth relaying them the entire internet if they want to know about us, no need to discuss anything. Only, sadly, something like religious missionaries would want to actually show up. If you see all the craziness in society lately as Alien religious missionaries, horrified and disgusted at human nature and determined to help us and correct us, it actually kinda fits.

AI and TransHumanism — The coming AI tech makes TPTB think they don’t need a bunch of people around anymore. And maybe they did something stupid to themselves too soon with kluge cutting edge tech like some sort of technological or genetic mental augmentation, mind upload, or something else they convinced themselves would be awesome but made them into stupid reptile insect jerks. I suppose a foolish deal with transdimensional demons, clockwork elves, an uncontrolled AI etc would work there too.

just riffing here for fun. I was just thinking about how, a couple months ago, some of the discussion shifted from What Are They Doing to Who Are They to …. WHAT tf Are They.

That Dude also said that “The root of all evil is the love of money.” I agree, with the caveat that this is only made possible by having these big brains that can abstractly reason and declare that 25 cents or $25 are the same things as a cup of coffee. Our delusionary belief in our Knowledge of Good and Evil is what waters that root.

Love It to Death

One needn’t hate all life, especially cute bunnies under legal age, in order to be fully corrupted by one’s addiction to manna from Mammon. Everyone’s doing it, but most of them do it passively: toil for dollars then exchange them for products that almost invariably require wholesale slaughter of life, including human, typically while said life suffers much before being granted euthanasia. TPTB aren’t killing and destroying on their own. We are. I submit that our current fetish for notions like Mass Formation Hypnosis ( a very old and ho-hum truth, imo) is partly because such notions help us offset our sense of guilt for being part of the most rapacious generation of a species since the strobolites killed themselves by shitting oxygen (poison to them) all over the planet.

But it’s so much more relieving to throw stones. I get that. Knock yourself out. There are some serious jackasses in positions of great power. But I cannot find it in me to blame .01% of humanity for humanity’s impact on itself and the planet. It’s too much like blaming my shit for stinking.

If only someone would buymy sorry ass. Save me from this place. Or at least this beautiful morning “and put it in a box for me.”

The above sequence posted in reverse order due to meddling bots.

One of the key components of successful military campaigns is that very few people know what is planned and how what is planned will be put into action.

Other key components include concealing where military personnel and equipment actually are and giving the impression they are somewhere else. Having a fake army erected somewhere you are not going to use as an attack point is also useful. the fake army needs a fake commander and fake communications to be ‘realistic’.

From the TAE text today: ‘The Russian command decided to remove its troops in the Kherson region from the left bank of the Dnieper’

Depending on who one listens to, the left bank of the river is either on the northwest side of the section of river in question or it is on the southeast side of the section of river in question.

Some say the designation of left bank or right bank is according to the direction the water flows. So the left bank is the southeast side.

Others do not follow this ‘rule’.

Confused?

You’re supposed to be.

There is a rather famous river that runs through London.

The Parliament buildings are on the north bank.

That is the right bank if you are travelling up the Thames and the left bank if you are travelling down the Thames.

I think I have up and down correctly assigned.

But maybe sailing down the river means going against the natural water flow.

The lower reaches of the Thames are tidal, of course, so the direction of water flow can change.

Anyone thinking of blowing up the parliament buildings had better work out where they are before attempting to organise anything: clue -there is a large tower adjacent, which is commonly called Big Ben but actually isn’t Big Ben; that’s the name of the bell; the tower is St Stephen’s Tower, I believe.

But what would I know?

Well, I do know that everything NATOstan governments say and do and promote is fake, fraudulent and unsustainable.

@aspnaz #120742 ‘We will read any old shite you post’

Well some of us wont! Not so long ago you mentioned how you skim over posts made by ‘idiots’, so why not just ignore them? You don’t need to step on dog shit to know it should be avoided!

We continue to appreciate your perspectives. The Stefano Scoglio article you posted yesterday (#120658) was food for much discussion on a long walk. We’ve been following the work of Dr Sam Bailey here in Hobbitland, also mentioned in the article, and it does make some sense. Thanks Raul for reposting on today’s selection. So how about it, @JohnDay? Pull it to bits for us with an open mind. Could it be important? Could even be a game changer? Both Scoglio and Maria Gutschi in Germ’s post yesterday (#120659) ask the same question: why has the spike protein not been properly isolated and positively identified in the blood? Because it does not exist outside of labs? Is there a lack of common sense and critical thinking re this issue? Spartacus also discusses this and the contents of the vials here:

https://iceni.substack.com/p/whats-really-in-the-shots