Debt Rattle Aug 18 2014: Oh, What A Tangled Mess We Weave
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Marjory Collins Gasoline rationing in Mechanicsville, Maryland Jul 1942 When first we practise to deceive! The upper echelons in and behind various go
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle Aug 18 2014: Oh, What A Tangled Mess We Weave]The last time that I looked, I could not find who had been the previous owner of that barrel of oil. I think that its all blended along with the prices.
It doesn’t matter who owned the resources. It will get sold and get bought by the highest bidder.
Re Florence shooting of Mike Brown:
It is ridiculous that this boy was shot 6 times. I’ve often wondered why these policemen aren’t taught to shoot at someone’s legs if there is an immediate need to take someone down. At least in most cases the alleged criminal wouldn’t lose their life. I’d be furious if my child made a foolish decision and ended up dead. This is happening over and over again.
But I think it important we wait to get all of the facts. Mike Brown had just robbed a convenience store (not armed) of some cigars. You can see in the following video how he intimidates the store owner by pushing him, and then turning back around and putting the run on the owner (using his size). He’s 6’4″ and about 300 pounds.
Of course the owner calls the police, and when the policeman sees the two suspects (they were walking down the middle of the street with the loot in their hands), he asks them to go over to the sidewalk. Mike Brown does not comply. The policeman tries to open his car door to get out, but Mike Brown shuts it. The officer said that there was a further altercation where Mike Brown reached inside the police car and tried to get the officer’s gun.
Then in the following video you have an eyewitness describing in the background what he saw. He said he saw the cop firing his weapon, but apparently missing. Then he saw Mike Brown turn around and start coming back towards the cop (you can see the body is facing in the police car’s direction). Did Mike Brown react the same way he did in the convenience store, by turning back around? If I had a person who’d already tried to get my gun turn around and start coming back towards me, I don’t know what I’d do.
The video I heard this morning has since been removed (because it went viral), but there is another partial one still intact.
I’m not saying the boy deserved to die, but that again the media is trying to portray him as just an innocent kid who was minding his own business, which was not the case.
The Right Sector in Ukraine wakes up after the meth and booze wear off, and decides not to march on Kiev after all.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2014/08/17/right-sector-will-not-march-on-kyiv-withdraws-ultimatum/@ Raleigh
Your version of the events are not what the “TV” and other blogs have been telling me.
I don’t accept your version. I don’t accept the other versions.
This could be the start of the american version of “the Arab Spring”.
“The US should, and could, have taken care of business in Iraq at any point since 1990. It didn’t. And it’s hard for me to accept that it never wanted to. It’s much more likely that hubris got in the way, that there was the idea all along that it never had to know all the ins and outs of the territory to be invaded. That having the biggest guns is always enough in the end. And now it’s clear that that didn’t work the last few times around, and what do you think the ‘new approach’ is? Right, more of the same.”
Ilargi,
Once again, you are in denial. You were in denial about 9/11, and since the MH-17 you seem to have become less sure.
Now, you are in denial about the fact that Israel – the USA is only doing Israel’ s bidding – has always aimed to destroy these countries. Israel has also always aimed to force the Jewish populations of these countries to leave – preferably to Israel. Similarly, it has always been the objective of Israel to destroy the Christian populations on the region – to force them to either leave or to die where their ancestors came from.
It seems to me that it will not be until they get the Protestants and Catholics of the Netherlands to start killing one another that you will get out of your Weltanschauung. The Americans and Israelis are not incompetent. They are evil – which is an entirely different matter.
It seems rather foolish to draw any conclusions about what went down in Ferguson, Mo, when all one has to go on are news reports. And we know how accurate the news isn’t.
If you were not there you do not know anything as fact.jal – “Your version of the events are not what the “TV” and other blogs have been telling me. I don’t accept your version.” I don’t really have a version. It would just be nice to know the truth, but even studies with eye witnesses have shown them to be unreliable as heck. Perhaps some video will come forward to show what really happened.
V. – “And we know how accurate the news isn’t.” Yes, look at the Ukraine and MH17. But the owner of the convenience store, along with the buddy of Mike Brown, have both admitted that it was Mike Brown in that convenience store, that he did walk out without paying, that he pushed the owner, and then turned back around on the owner in an aggressive manner. That much is certain. What type of person does that? I mean, some kids steal things off shelves if they think no one is looking, but to blatantly just walk out without paying, with the owner in pursuit, is quite something. This store surveillance video does show a particular mind set.
But you’re right, that’s about all we know for sure at this point.
Ilargi – “Does nobody in the States know anything about crowd control anymore? Or is this an attempt to make a small incident grow into something much bigger, so Americans get used to seeing the National Guard in their streets?”
That, or garner votes, cause more chaos, divide and conquer. At least it lit a light under Holder’s butt and brought Obama home from the golf course. Holder can’t seem to find a banker/hedge fund/high frequency trader/etc. that’s done anything criminal, but he has ordered a “third” autopsy for Michael Brown. Interesting. This has got to be the worst (not that any of them has been good) administration in U.S. history.
This place is going to erupt when things start to get hard.
“Shock and awe” did not work so well in Iraq, at least not as a long term strategy.
But maybe it will work in Ferguson, MO?
Government woven webs?
Let me put this in rant form,,,full retard;
Keep the wheels of war spinning, or Silicon Valley, Los Angeles and Chicago will go Detroit. Along with the incumbent pols and their financiers. It’s all now a matter of national security.
Location and moral objectives are of no consequence anymore. Just keep using up and breaking military machinery and replacing it, and all will be well. The war racket is in self perpetuation mode now. Stand back and let ‘er rip!
Every gallon of fuel burned and every bomb crater adds to GDP, so bomb, bomb, bomb,,,burn, burn ,burn…
Break every window in the world, and hire millions of new glaziers to replace them, then break ’em again.
Burn the ghetto’s and rebuild them twice as big. Level Detroit and Lansing and build houses and shopping malls until they out number people 2 to 1.
Erect bridges from New York to London and from San Francisco to Fukushima, then on to Nepal.
Pay everyone on earth a citizen wage of $50,000 a year. Raise the minimum wage to $50 an hour to compete. Get the price of a meal up to $250 and a pair of socks to $89.95. GDP will go exponential. Maybe even to Mars.
Convert the entire world to one big happy Keynesian Utopian Amusement Park with money fountains and root beer waterfalls.
Then, see if that accomplishes as much as in Iraq.
On Ferguson, as I said somewhere, maybe not here,,, in the end, now that Ferguson has become political, we’ll know no more than we know about MH17 when the dust settles.
Likely, the Red Team will blame the protesters and Brown, the Blue Team the police. It is, after all, an election year.
Must patronize and polarize, or die!
Only victim, as usual, will be the truth.
Ilargi – “The cop didn’t stop Michael Brown in connection with the alleged robbery.” Yes, I’ve since learned that. He just wanted them to move onto the sidewalk, or so he says. But Michael Brown didn’t know that the cop wasn’t aware of the robbery. He may have thought the cop “was” going to question him about that, in which case he might have been more defensive. Who knows.
You’ve got to admit that after watching the convenience store video, and his treatment of the store clerk, that it isn’t too much of a stretch to visualize the same attitude towards the cop. He was arrogant and felt extremely entitled to steal those cigars, and when the clerk tried to stop him, he was aggressive and intimidating. He wasn’t even in a hurry to get away, but slowly departed. And it’s not like he was hiding or trying not to draw attention to himself, as he was walking down the middle of the road when the cop saw him.
This is a very entitled mindset, and it’s not going to disappear just because a cop shows up. Very much like the U.S. military walking into countries and taking what they want, things we talk about here on a daily basis. Same mindset. Society is always a reflection of its leaders.
Once again, far too much conjecture based on very iffy psychological analysis of alleged “facts/evidence”.
@ Raleigh;
Why are you so invested in the guilt of Brown?
Why do you not let this play out?
I have drawn no conclusions at this time. There just is too much noise for any clarity.
Both sides have vested interests.
The only thing certain is the systemic racism playing out and the whole country (America) is infected…sure!Just to show how broad-minded we are, let’s further complicate this picture.
The fact that Eric Holder got involved tells me that only one thing about Ferguson is certain: the public will never know the truth now.
If the cops had allowed peaceful demonstrations, had refrained from planting agent provocateurs among the protestors, had protected businesses from vandalism and looting, and had left the flash-bangs and tear gas at home, this thing probably would have registered somewhere above a swat raid on the wrong house, and below the unwarranted shooting of somebody’s pet dog. Is it possible that Ferguson is being fashioned into a crisis solely to divert media attention away from MH370, MH17, Gaza, Ukraine, Iraq, Benghazi, Ebola, or Michelle’s school lunch fiasco?
This is plausible, too.
I think it would be great if an impartial team of investigators would be allowed to travel to the site and examine the evidence, but that would require a cease-fire from the fascists in uniform. No explanation why the body was left to decompose in the hot sun for four hours. The press is being actively discouraged from filming at the scene. Hold on. Are we talking about Ferguson or Ukraine?
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