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Medvedev: Countries Now Ready To Supply Iran With Nuclear Warheads (ZH)
US Intervened Because Israel Was on Brink of Defeat – Iranian Ex-Ambassador (Sp.)
Top Iranian Diplomat Expects ‘Critical’ Talks With Putin (RT)
US Strikes on Iran Reckless Breach of Sovereignty – Russian FM (Sp.)
Moscow Blasts US Redo Of ‘Iraqi Weapons Of Mass Destruction’ Stunt (RT)
America Again Crawls on Its Belly for Israel (Paul Craig Roberts)
Democrats Denounce Iranian Attack as Unconstitutional (Turley)
Vance, Rubio Call For Peace With Iran, Say Regime Change Is Not The Goal (ZH)
The EU’s Favorite War: The One Israel Starts (Marsden)
What Russian Experts And Politicians Are Saying About The US Strikes (RT)
Major US Cities on Alert After US Airstrikes on Iranian Nuclear Facilities (ET)
Zelensky Makes New Threats Against Russia (RT)
The European Garden On The Brink Of Ruin (SCF)
Western Use of Interest From Russia’s Frozen Assets Is Theft – Top Banker (RT)

 

 

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Yesterday, I said: “If the situation pans out the way it’s presented today, much of the criticism [..] will subside..” Well, it hasn’t and it won’t. Scott Ritter’s must-see talk with Judge Nap makes that very clear. He claims the US bombs only literally pounded sand, and reality differs greatly from the narrative. If Trump can say today that there’s no Iranian nuclear threat, that’s because there wasn’t one before. They bombed two abandoned desert sites, and one-Fordow- that they couldn’t hit. Q: what’s the next move?

 

 

 

 

Great example of the role Medvedev plays: he gets to say what Putin can’t, for reasons of statesmanship and diplomacy.

Medvedev: Countries Now Ready To Supply Iran With Nuclear Warheads (ZH)

On Sunday morning Russia’s former president and current deputy chairman of the country’s Security Council Dmitry Medvedev issued his reaction to the major US overnight strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities, giving what’s essentially the view of where things stand from the Kremlin. Medvedev in a ten-point list of reactions characterized the attacks as ultimately ineffective, and that it will blow back on America and Israel in a way opposite than intended, especially as Tehran will now only push harder for a nuke, and allied countries might now simply be willing to supply them to the Iranians, he described.

Interestingly, Medvedev has also echoed Moscow’s stance on nuclear warheads in the Middle East, and has written over the weekend on his VKontakte page, “Does Iran have nuclear weapons? We don’t know, but we know that Israel has a secret nuclear program. Well, let them both renounce such programs under the supervision of the UN Security Council and the IAEA.” As for the ten-point critique of the brazen US heavy bombing of the Islamic Republic, Medvedev wrote on X as follows… “What have the Americans accomplished with their nighttime strikes on three nuclear sites in Iran?” he first posed, before listing:

1. Critical infrastructure of the nuclear fuel cycle appears to have been unaffected or sustained only minor damage.
2. The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue.
3. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads.
4. Israel is under attack, explosions are rocking the country, and people are panicking.
5. The US is now entangled in a new conflict, with prospects of a ground operation looming on the horizon.
6. Iran’s political regime has survived — and in all likelihood, has come out even stronger.
7. The people are rallying around the country’s spiritual leadership, including those who were previously indifferent or opposed to it.
8. Donald Trump, once hailed as ‘president of peace,’ has now pushed the US into another war.
9. The vast majority of countries around the world oppose the actions of Israel and the United States.
10. At this rate, Trump can forget about the Nobel Peace Prize — not even with how rigged it has become.

Medvedev actually finished his point #10 with a sarcastic dig at the US leader, writing “What a way to kick things off, Mr. President. Congratulations!” This certainly complicates things in terms of Russia’s military operation in Ukraine. Moscow has long received its major supply of Shahed ‘Kamikaze’ drones from Iran, and has ongoing defense contracts and agreements, including possibly to receive mid-range missiles. Washington is ‘flexing’ in Moscow’s direction with this major long-range B-2 bomber military operation on the other side of the world.

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Interesting viewpoint.

“..Former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray told RIA Novosti that Iran had shown incredible patience and peacefulness over the past few years..”

US Intervened Because Israel Was on Brink of Defeat – Iranian Ex-Ambassador (Sp.)

The United States would not have intervened in the Middle East conflict if Israel had not been on the brink of defeat, former Iranian Ambassador to Germany Seyed Hossein Mousavian told RIA Novosti. “Israel not only failed in its ten-day military operation against Iran but was on the verge of defeat. Had Israel not been in a crisis, the U.S. would not have intervened,” Mousavian said. He pointed out that while Iran has suffered irreparable damage, the negative consequences of the US attack against it will also harm the United States and jeopardize regional peace and security. “US President Donald Trump’s national security team either failed to properly assess the consequences of a U.S. military attack on Iran, or they were unable to dissuade the President—or perhaps the majority of them actually supported the decision. In any case, this event has further revealed the extent of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s influence over the White House,” he added.

The United States struck three Iranian nuclear sites in Natanz, Fordow and Isfahan on Sunday night. US President Donald Trump said that the strike aimed at crippling Iran’s nuclear capabilities. He said Tehran must agree to “end this war” or face far more serious consequences. Iran denies the military component of its nuclear project. As IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi said on June 18, the agency’s inspectors have not seen concrete evidence that Iran was pursuing a nuclear weapons program. The US intelligence community, contrary to statements by President Donald Trump and Israel, believed that Iran was not seeking to create nuclear weapons, as reported by CNN. Former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray told RIA Novosti that Iran had shown incredible patience and peacefulness over the past few years, despite Israel’s actions.

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“..drastically increased the likelihood of a larger conflict in the Middle East.”

Top Iranian Diplomat Expects ‘Critical’ Talks With Putin (RT)

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi is expecting to hold a “crucial” meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin during his pre-arranged visit to Moscow, which coincided with US strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities over the weekend. Israel launched an attack on Iran last week, claiming Tehran was on the brink of developing a nuclear weapon. Iranian officials rejected the accusation and responded with retaliatory strikes. On Sunday, the United States followed with what it described as “massive precision strikes” on nuclear facilities in Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan. The attacks were widely condemned as violations of international law. International Atomic Energy Agency Director General Rafael Grossi said the strikes caused “a sharp degradation in nuclear safety and security.”

Speaking to reporters after arriving in Moscow early Monday, Araghchi said the situation demanded urgent coordination. “Given the current exceptional circumstances in the region, it is essential that Iran and Russia engage in closer, more precise, and more serious consultations,” he stated. Naturally, our talks this time will be more serious and cover broader dimensions. We will have important and serious discussions with President Putin, and I am confident that the outcomes will benefit both countries. The Kremlin has yet to confirm a meeting between Putin and Araghchi. Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly stated that Iran has the right to use nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. In media appearances during the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF) last week, he emphasized that resolving the conflict should include mutual security guarantees – protecting both Iran’s right to peaceful nuclear development and Israel’s right to security.

Araghchi described Russia as a strategic ally and said the two countries have maintained regular dialogue on regional issues. He also noted that during recent nuclear negotiations with the US, Tehran “continuously consulted with our Russian friends, sharing every step of the progress with them.” Russia has strongly condemned the US strikes on Iran’s nuclear sites, calling them a flagrant breach of international law. In a statement on Saturday, the Russian Foreign Ministry described the attacks as “a reckless decision” and “a blatant violation of the UN Charter and relevant Security Council resolutions.” It warned that the strikes – carried out by a permanent member of the Security Council – could have caused a nuclear disaster and had “drastically increased the likelihood of a larger conflict in the Middle East.”

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“..runs counter to international law, the UN Charter, the UN Security Council Resolution..”

US Strikes on Iran Reckless Breach of Sovereignty – Russian FM (Sp.)

The Russian Foreign Ministry condemned the US bombing of Iranian nuclear sites as a reckless move that violates the Islamic Republic’s sovereignty, international law and the UN Charter. “The reckless decision to bomb the territory of a sovereign state, whatever the arguments, runs counter to international law, the UN Charter, the UN Security Council Resolution,” the ministry said. It is of particular concern that the attack was carried out by a permanent member of the UN Security Council, the ministry said, adding that the UN’s core body had to interfere.

“The UN Security Council should naturally take action. Confrontational behavior of the US and Israel has to be rejected collectively,” the statement read. “We call for an end of aggression and urge efforts that will create conditions for a return to a political and diplomatic path,” the statement said. The ministry also called on Rafael Grossi, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, to report impartially on the Iran attacks at the UN atomic agency’s board of governors’ meeting on Monday.

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“Many today feel a strong sense of déjà vu,” he said. “The current situation is essentially no different: we are once again being urged to believe in fairy tales in order to once again bring suffering to millions of people living in the Middle East.”

Moscow Blasts US Redo Of ‘Iraqi Weapons Of Mass Destruction’ Stunt (RT)

Russia has sharply condemned the United States for its airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, calling the attacks “irresponsible, provocative and dangerous,” and warning they risk pushing the Middle East toward a large-scale war with potentially catastrophic nuclear consequences. Speaking at an emergency session of the UN Security Council on Sunday, Russian Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia accused Washington of violating the UN Charter, international law and the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). “The United States has opened a Pandora’s box, and no one knows what consequences may follow,” Nebenzia said, noting that by targeting IAEA-supervised nuclear sites, Washington has “once again demonstrated total disregard for the position of the international community.”

Nebenzia drew a pointed comparison to the lead-up to the 2003 Iraq War, when then-US Secretary of State Colin Powell presented false evidence to “justify the invasion of another sovereign state, only to plunge its people into chaos for decades and not find any weapons of mass destruction.” “Many today feel a strong sense of déjà vu,” he said. “The current situation is essentially no different: we are once again being urged to believe in fairy tales in order to once again bring suffering to millions of people living in the Middle East.” Russia argued that Tehran has not been proven to be pursuing a nuclear weapon, echoing earlier assessments by US intelligence that were dismissed by President Donald Trump as “wrong.” Nebenzia accused Washington of fabricating a narrative to justify the use of force and of undermining the decades-long diplomatic framework built around Iran’s peaceful nuclear program.

The Russian envoy also criticized what he described as the hypocrisy of Western nations that had for days called for “restraint” in the same Security Council chamber, yet failed to condemn Washington for joining Israeli strikes – and even blamed Iran for the escalation. “We are witnessing an astonishing example of double standards,” he said. “Iran has been and remains one of the most thoroughly inspected states under the NPT, but instead of encouraging such an attitude, it receives bombardments of its territory and civilians by a state that refuses, in principle, to sign the NPT.” Nebenzia warned that the US strikes undermine the authority of the IAEA and the global non-proliferation regime, and that continued escalation could return the world to an era of uncontrolled nuclear risk.

“This is an outrageous and cynical situation, and it is very strange that the Director General of the IAEA did not say a word about it. Neither has he ever called on Israel to join the NPT,” Nebenzia added. Calling for urgent action, Russia – joined by China and Pakistan – submitted a draft Security Council resolution demanding an immediate and unconditional ceasefire and a return to diplomatic talks on Iran’s nuclear program.

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“The Horsemen of the Apocalypse.”

America Again Crawls on Its Belly for Israel (Paul Craig Roberts)

The recklessness increases. President Trump committed an act of war for Israel. This comes on top of some fool green-lighting an attack on the Russian strategic triad, an attack that was played down even by Putin himself. What will Washington’s next reckless act be? Why did Putin green-light the attack on Iran by conveniently announcing that Russia’s treaty with Iran did not include military support, a claim that John Helmer says is disproved by secret provisions in the treaty? Russia and China could have prevented the attack, but did nothing. Peace in the Middle East could have been established with a Russian-Iranian-Chinese mutual security treaty. Why do Russia and China prefer war to peace in the Middle East? Where was Iran’s air defense? Why is Iran always a sitting duck devoid of initiative? Why are Muslims happy fighting one another instead of their real enemies?

Israel and Israel’s Western puppets have turned war into an ongoing activity that does not need declaration. For Israel’s reasons, not for America’s, President trump has militarily attacked a regional military power without Congress’ declaration of war as required by the US Constitution. Clearly, war has prevailed over the Constitution. This began with Bill Clinton’s presidency, and expanded with subsequent presidents. Israel has obtained the power where Israel can send America to war and we hapless Americans can do nothing about it.

Israel has undeclared nuclear weapons but can have Trump attack Iran’s peaceful use of atomic power. Israel can exterminate Palestinians and obliterate Gaza, without effective protest from any country. But Iran is evil and against America if Iran stands up for itself. Thanks to the US media and Israel’s bought-and-paid-for US Congress, many years of Israeli propaganda against Iran has been driven into the heads of the American public, which will simply accept another of their country’s acts of aggression against “Muslim terrorists” and “weapons of mass destruction.”

Perhaps the saddest part of this is it demonstrates once again that elections cannot change anything. America cannot be made great again without a new political party led by people independent of Israel and the corrupt American Establishment. These people would have to avoid being assassinated or arrested and prosecuted by the American Establishment. This would require militant supporters willing and able to use violence. Who is there to lead such a movement? The American Establishment will not permit any such force to appear. The American Establishment would not even permit Americans to protest a stolen presidential election.

Conspiracy theorists will see in Russia and China’s inaction their involvement in a globalist plot against any form of independence. How do we know they are not right? What else explains the world sitting on its butt while Israel commits genocide of Palestine, and Washington, without a declaration of war, overthrows 5 countries, and is now working on a sixth, for Israel. The seventh on the list is Saudi Arabia, and Netanyahu recently added Pakistan as the eighth. Turkey will be the ninth. The extraordinary aggression that Washington and Israel have unleashed on the world seems never ending. Putin and Xi seem to think that Russia and China can sit them out, but Russia and China are the two main targets. While Russia and China sit on their butts, they are being isolated from allies such as Iran and from one another.

Trump had just given Iran two weeks to come to terms with his demands, and then launched a surprise attack in advance of the two weeks. After such treachery, how can Putin possibly return to “peace negotiations?” As Putin is so averse to acknowledging reality that he dismisses Washington’s attack on Russia’s nuclear triad as “an act of terrorism, not of war,” what will Washington’s next attack on Russia be? What is Xi going to do when he finds he cannot wait out his adversary?

“And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat upon him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with the sword, and with hunger” — Revelation 6:8

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“..the calls for impeachment are absurd given the prior actions of presidents in using this very authority. Once again, some Democrats appear intent on applying a different set of rules for impeaching Trump than any of his predecessors.”

Democrats Denounce Iranian Attack as Unconstitutional (Turley)

Yesterday, I wrote a column in the Hill discussing how Trump is unlikely to go to Congress in launching an attack on Iran and how he has history on his side in acting unilaterally. The column noted that many Democratic politicians and pundits who were supportive of such unilateral actions by Democratic presidents such as Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are suddenly opposed to Trump using the same power. It is the Claude Rains School of Constitutional Law where politicians are “shocked, shocked” that Trump is using the authority that they accepted in Democratic predecessors. Democratic members are calling for impeachment, while others are declaring the attacks unconstitutional. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer is particularly shocked that Trump took the action and is calling for a vote under the War Powers Act.

Schumer insisted that “no president should be allowed to unilaterally march this nation into something as consequential as war with erratic threats and no strategy.” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries has issued a similar statement. Schumer is the same politician who was silent or supportive in earlier unilateral attacks by Democratic presidents. In 2011, Obama approved a massive military campaign against Libya. I represented a bipartisan group of members of Congress challenging that action. We were unsuccessful, as were such prior challenges. I have long criticized the abandonment of the clear language of the Constitution on the declaration of wars. Only eleven such declarations have been made in our history. That has not happened since World War II in 1942. Over 125 military campaigns have spanned from Korea to Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. It is not a rule honored solely in the breach.

Democrats were supportive when Clinton launched cruise missile attacks under Operation Infinite Reach on two continents on August 20, 1998. He ordered attacks in locations in Khartoum, Sudan, and Khost Province, Afghanistan. The War Powers Act has always been controversial and largely ineffectual. Presidents have long asserted the inherent powers to conduct such attacks under their Article II authority as the designated Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. The WPA requires the President to inform Congress within 48 hours in a written notice to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate of the action.

The WPA further bars the use of armed forces in such a conflict for more than 60 days without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States. There is a further 30-day withdrawal period. President Trump reportedly did immediately notify Congress after the attack under the WPA . Presidents have routinely ignored the WPA when it limited their ability to conduct foreign military operations. In 1999, Clinton ignored the 60-day deadline and continued to bomb forces in Kosovo. His actions were also challenged, but the court in Campbell v. Clinton just shrugged off the violation and said it was a non-justiciable political question.

In responding to the current demands, Trump could look to a curious ally: Hillary Clinton. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pushed for unilateral attacks during the Obama Administration. She dismissed the need to consult, let alone secure authorization, from Congress. In March 2011, Clinton testified that there was no need for such consultation and declared that the Administration would ignore a 60-day limit on unauthorized military actions. Obama also defied the War Powers resolution on Syria. He actually did ask for congressional authorization to take military action in that country in 2013, but Congress refused to approve it. He did it anyway. Despite Congress expressly denying”authorization for the introduction of United States Armed Forces,” both Obama and Trump did precisely that.

Trump was wise to notify Congress. However, what occurs after that is anyone’s guess. The WPA and the AUMF have been paper tigers for decades and most in Congress wanted it that way. Politicians long ago abandoned their responsibilities to declare war. What remains has been little more than political theater. Even under the WPA, Trump would have 60 days to prosecute this war and another 30 days to draw down forces without congressional approval. The court, in Campbell v. Clinton, noted that even if Clinton violated the WPA by continuing operations after the 60-day period, he was technically in compliance by withdrawing forces before the end of the 90-day period. Trump could likely prosecute this campaign in 90 days. Indeed, if it goes beyond 90 days, we will likely be facing a potential global war with retaliatory strikes on both sides. In such an environment, it is very unlikely that Congress would withhold support for our ongoing operations.

In the meantime, the calls for impeachment are absurd given the prior actions of presidents in using this very authority. Once again, some Democrats appear intent on applying a different set of rules for impeaching Trump than any of his predecessors. Trump can cite both history and case law in allowing presidents to take such actions. At most, the line over war powers is murky. The Framers wanted impeachments to be based on bright-line rules in establishing high crimes and misdemeanors. This is all part of the Claude Rains School of Constitutional Law. Members will once again express their shock and disgust in the use of the same authority that they once accepted in prior presidents. Trump has a great number of a risks in this action from global military and economic consequences. The War Powers Act is not one of them if history is any measure.

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They all own it.

Vance, Rubio Call For Peace With Iran, Say Regime Change Is Not The Goal (ZH)

Update (11:37ET): Following President Trump’s new foreign entanglement – bombing Iranian nuclear facilities (which may or may not have taken them out while causing a deep divide amongst MAGA), Vice President JD Vance says he believes their nuclear program has been set back “many years,” and that he feels “very confident that we’ve substantially delayed [Iran’s] development of a nuclear weapon,” adding that it was US intelligence, not Israeli intelligence assessments, that led to Trump’s decision. When asked if the United States is at war with Iran, he claimed “No, Kristen, we’re not at war with Iran. We’re at war with Iran’s nuclear program,” and called on Iranians to “give peace a chance”. “They can go down the path of peace, or they can go down the path of this ridiculous brinksmanship of funding terrorism, of trying to build a nuclear weapon – and that’s just not something the United States can accept.”

When asked if the US would support an Israeli assassination of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Vance said that it would be “up to the Israelis,” and that the US position is “we don’t want a regime change.” US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, meanwhile insisted to Fox News that “This is not a war against Iran,” adding “Not a shot was fired against us. They didn’t even know what had happened. By the time we left, the planes were out of their airspace before they finally started realizing they’d been hit. So it would be a terrible mistake if Iran retaliates. So but that’s not our goal.” He also warned against Iranian retaliation, saying: “If Iran retaliates, it will be the WORST mistake they’ve ever made.” Rubio then warned Iran not to close the strait of Hormuz after Iran’s parliament backed its closure, saying “If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz, it will be another terrible mistake. It’s economic suicide for them if they do it and we retain options to deal with that.”

Everyone got the script? Iran, meanwhile in a statement through spox Esmail Baghaei, accused the Trump administration of sabotaging diplomatic efforts – saying “They cannot talk about diplomacy, they betrayed diplomacy,” adding that “diplomacy never ends.” Regarding the escalating conflict, Baghaei warned “No one knows what will happen next, but what is sure is that the responsibility of the consequences of this war must be borne by the United States and Israel.” The Iranian foreign ministry declined to elaborate on Tehran’s likely response to the attacks, or to detail the extent of the damage – only saying in a statement to CNN that Iran “is entitled … to exercise its right of self-defense,” adding “And we will do that for sure.”

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In a Sunday morning press briefing, Trump’s Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth declared that “Iran’s nuclear ambitions have been obliterated” – but also asserted that the attack did not target the Iranian people or civilians. He hailed the “incredible and overwhelming success” – following President Trump last night saying the same thing. “It’s worth noting the operation did not target Iranian troops or the Iranian people.” Hegseth said this is part of the commitment of this administration’s vision of “peace through strength”. He continued, “Many presidents have dreamed of delivering the final blow to Iran’s nuclear program, and none could, until President Trump.”

For the “bold and brilliant” operation, there was weeks of preparation and precision logistics and “misdirection” at the highest level, involving B-2 bombers going to hit, Hegseth described. “No other country on planet earth” could have conducted this operation. He also underscored that the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) was used for the first time in US combat history – also that it was the longest bomber mission of its kind since 2001. “Just like [IRGC Quds Force General Qasem] Solemani found out in the first term, Iran found out when POTUS says ’60 days’ – that when he seeks peace and negotiation – he means 60 days of peace and negotiation, otherwise that nuclear program will not exist. He meant it.” Hegseth then read aloud Trump’s post to Truth Social last night, soon after the three nuclear sites were struck:

“Any retaliation by Iran against the United States of America will be met with force far greater than what was witnessed tonight.” That’s when the US Defense Secretary then warned, “Iran would be smart to heed those words. He said it before and he means it.” He tried to stress the ‘limited’ scope of the attack and urged the Iranians to come back to the negotiating table: There are both public and private messages being delivered to the Iranians in multiple channels, giving them every opportunity to come to the negotiation table, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth says at a Pentagon press briefing. Scope of operation on Iran was “intentionally limited” Hegseth says he believes the US attack will have a clear psychological impact on how Iran views the future US strikes against Iran’s nuclear enrichment site at Fordow are believed to have destroyed capabilities there…

To review the details of what happened last night, the US deployed six B-2 bombers to drop 12 GBU-57 “bunker-buster” bombs on Iran’s heavily fortified Fordow nuclear site, marking the first time these massive 30,000-pound bombs were used in combat. The enrichment sites at Natanz and Isfahan were also attacked. The mission lasted about 37 hours with multiple refueling missions. While the White House is now claiming Iran’s nuclear facilities were “completely and totally obliterated,” officials say it’s too early to confirm the full extent of the damage. Iran, along with international nuclear agencies, reported no radiation leaks, prompting skepticism about the strike’s effectiveness—particularly at Fordow, which is buried deep underground. Iranian officials said damage was minimal and mostly above ground. Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization vowed to continue its nuclear program, referring to assassinated nuclear scientists as “martyrs.”

Some degree of political backlash has quickly emerged over the lack of Congressional approval for the strikes. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, despite previously mocking Trump’s diplomatic efforts with Iran, called for a War Powers vote, criticizing the president’s unilateral military action without a clear strategy.

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“So after Israel unilaterally launched its hundred-target missile tantrum across Tehran – complete with residential hits and assassinations – maybe some strong words against that kind of thing are in order?”

The EU’s Favorite War: The One Israel Starts (Marsden)

Israel flew over to Iran with fighter jets and has since gone totally ballistic — literally and figuratively. So what does the European Union’s insane clown posse have to say about it? Get yourself some popcorn. The Eurojokers are doing their best stand-up comedy again without even realizing it. First up: French President Emmanuel Macron, who took to social media to declare that “peace and security for all in the region must remain our guiding principle.” Aww, how sweet. Calling for peace while holding your buddy’s coat as he storms into the bar to punch someone on the face. So after Israel unilaterally launched its hundred-target missile tantrum across Tehran – complete with residential hits and assassinations – maybe some strong words against that kind of thing are in order?

“France has repeatedly condemned Iran’s ongoing nuclear program and has taken all appropriate diplomatic measures in response. In this context, France reaffirms Israel’s right to defend itself and ensure its security,” Macron posted as the conflict kicked off. Classic French parenting: ignore the kid setting the house on fire and scold the one who looked at him funny. Next up, Germany. Surely the new chancellor, Friedrich Merz, can inject some sober logic into the conversation about who just broke the fragile regional peace everyone’s pretending to care about. “Iran has subsequently threatened to accelerate uranium enrichment again. This nuclear programme violates the provisions of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and poses a serious threat to the entire region, especially to the State of Israel. We reaffirm that Israel has the right to defend its existence and the security of its citizens. We call on both sides to refrain from steps that could lead to further escalation and destabilise the entire region,” wrote Merz.

Oh, so now that Israel has attacked Iran, it’s time for restraint? Not before. Not during. After. Like a guy who throws the first punch in a bar fight and then shouts, “Hey! Let’s all calm down!” Both Macron and Merz say that Iran brought this on itself by enriching uranium. That’s like this: you’ve got a neighbor who lifts weights in his home gym. You see him through the window with a squat rack, bench press, treadmill – getting jacked. And you’re like, “Wow, he’s getting so ripped I’m afraid he might beat me up someday. So I better go over there now and beat him up while I still can.” That’s basically what Israel did with its “preemptive” strike. And Macron and Merz are cheering it on like, “Totally! That guy was getting too buff. Definitely deserved a missile to the face.”

Then Merz added from the G7 summit in Canada: “This is the dirty work that Israel is doing for all of us. We are also victims of this regime.” Oh, sorry – didn’t realize the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) had hired Israel as a global bouncer. And remind us, Friedrich: where exactly did Iran touch Germany on the map? Because Europe is far more likely to be “victimized” by waves of immigration facilitated by its own lax policies, and sparked by its own support for regime change wars – like this one is shaping up to be – than by any distant centrifuge. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, the EU’s de facto queen, is now cosplaying as global playground monitor, sending all the boys to their corners. “Europe urges all parties to exercise maximum restraint, de-escalate immediately and refrain from retaliation. A diplomatic resolution is now more urgent than ever, for the sake of the region’s stability and global security,” she wrote.

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“This is more than hypocrisy; it’s a catastrophic failure of US policy. Trump’s administration has made a colossal mistake.”

What Russian Experts And Politicians Are Saying About The US Strikes (RT)

Fyodor Lukyanov, editor-in-chief of Russia in Global Affairs: The trap awaiting Trump is simple – but highly effective. If Iran responds by targeting American assets, the US will be pulled deeper into a military confrontation almost by default. If on the other hand, Tehran holds back or offers only a token response, Israel’s leadership – backed by its neoconservative allies in Washington – will seize the moment to pressure the White House: now is the time to finish off a weakened regime and force a convenient replacement. Until that happens, they’ll argue the job isn’t done. Whether Trump is willing – or even able – to resist that pressure remains uncertain.

Most likely, Iran will avoid hitting US targets directly in an effort to prevent a point-of-no-return escalation with American forces. Instead, it will likely intensify its strikes on Israel. Netanyahu, in turn, will double down on his efforts to convince Washington that regime change in Tehran is the only viable path forward – something Trump, at least for now, remains instinctively opposed to. Still, the momentum of military entanglement has a logic of its own, and it’s rarely easy to resist.

Tigran Meloyan, analyst at the Center for Strategic Research, Higher School of Economics: If Iran does nothing, it risks appearing weak – both at home and abroad. That makes a carefully calibrated response almost inevitable: one designed not to escalate the conflict, but to preserve domestic legitimacy and project resolve. Tehran is unlikely to go much further than that. Meanwhile, by continuing to build up its military presence, Washington sends a clear deterrent message – signaling both readiness and resolve in case Tehran miscalculates.

Another option for Iran could be a dramatic symbolic move: withdrawing from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). Such a step would be Tehran’s way of declaring that Trump, by striking nuclear infrastructure, has effectively dismantled the global nonproliferation regime. The NPT was supposed to guarantee Iran’s security; instead, it has delivered the opposite. Still, if Iran goes down that path, it risks damaging ties with Moscow and Beijing – neither of which wants to see a challenge to the existing nuclear order.

The bigger question now is whether Iran will even consider returning to talks with Washington after this attack. Why negotiate when American promises no longer mean anything? Tehran urgently needs a mediator who can restrain Trump from further escalation – and right now, the only credible candidate is Moscow. Iran’s foreign minister, [Abbas] Araghchi, is set to meet with President Putin on June 23. It’s hard to imagine that a potential NPT withdrawal won’t be on the table. If in the past an Iranian bomb was considered an existential threat to Israel, the calculus has now reversed: for Iran, nuclear capability is quickly becoming a question of survival.

Konstantin Kosachev, vice speaker of the Federation Council: Let’s state the obvious: Iraq, Libya – and now Iran – were bombed because they couldn’t hit back. They either didn’t have weapons of mass destruction or hadn’t yet developed them. In some cases, they never even intended to. Meanwhile, the West doesn’t touch the four countries that remain outside the Non-Proliferation Treaty: India, Pakistan, North Korea, and Israel. Why? Because unlike Iraq, Libya, and Iran, these states actually possess nuclear weapons. The message to so-called ‘threshold’ nations couldn’t be clearer: if you don’t want to be bombed by the West, arm yourself. Build deterrence. Go all the way – even to the point of developing weapons of mass destruction.

That’s the grim conclusion many countries will draw. It’s a dangerous lesson, and one that flies in the face of global security and the very idea of a rules-based international order. Yet it’s the West that keeps driving this logic. Iraq was invaded over a vial of powder. Libya gave up its nuclear program and was torn apart. Iran joined the NPT, worked with the IAEA, and didn’t attack Israel – unlike Israel, which just struck Iran while staying outside the NPT and refusing to cooperate with nuclear watchdogs. This is more than hypocrisy; it’s a catastrophic failure of US policy. Trump’s administration has made a colossal mistake. The pursuit of a Nobel Peace Prize has taken on grotesque and dangerous proportions.

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Iran will not target LA. Why on earth should they?

Major US Cities on Alert After US Airstrikes on Iranian Nuclear Facilities (ET)

Three major U.S. cities indicated that they’re on heightened alert following U.S. military airstrikes targeting Iranian nuclear facilities on June 21. In an announcement on the night of June 21, President Donald Trump confirmed that the U.S. military carried out bombing missions targeting three facilities, prompting threats from Iranian officials. “We’re tracking the situation unfolding in Iran,” the New York City Police Department stated in a post on X on the evening of June 21. “Out of an abundance of caution, we’re deploying additional resources to religious, cultural, and diplomatic sites across NYC [New York City] and coordinating with our federal partners. We’ll continue to monitor for any potential impact to NYC.”

Soon after that, the Metropolitan Police Department in Washington issued a similar statement about the Iran–U.S. situation and stated that it would increase police presence at religious institutions. The law enforcement agency noted that there are no known threats to the nation’s capital city. Also on June 22, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass wrote on X that her city is “monitoring any threats to public safety” that may arise. “There are no known credible threats at this time and out of an abundance of caution, LAPD is stepping up patrols near places of worship, community gathering spaces and other sensitive sites,” Bass wrote in a June 21 statement, referring to the Los Angeles Police Department. “We will remain vigilant in protecting our communities.”

Outside the United States, the State Department has ordered nonessential personnel and the families of staff at the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon to leave as concerns mount about Iranian retaliation. In a notice issued on June 22, the department stated that it had taken the step “due to the volatile and unpredictable security situation in the region.” The notice makes no mention of any potential evacuation flights or other assistance for private Americans wanting to leave Lebanon but states that they should try to use existing commercial services to depart. The United States has already organized several evacuations of American citizens from Israel and is advising American citizens in Iran on how to leave the country. After the U.S. airstrike that killed Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani in 2020, Iran launched multiple barrages of missiles at U.S. bases in the Middle East, doing minor damage and causing minor injuries to American troops.

Hours after the June 21 bombing, Trump administration officials signaled a willingness to renew talks with Iran and avoid a prolonged war in the Middle East. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told reporters late on June 21 that the United States isn’t seeking regime change in Iran, while Vice President JD Vance said during a June 22 interview that the Trump administration doesn’t want “boots on the ground” in Iran. Before the U.S. bombing mission, Iran and Israel had engaged in a weeklong aerial conflict, with both sides firing missiles at one another, after Israel struck a host of military and strategic sites in Iran a day after a 60-day negotiating period set in April by Trump expired. Israel has stated that it is seeking to dismantle Iran’s nuclear program, which both U.S. and Israeli officials say was intended to produce nuclear weapons.

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”The equipment in question… was not destroyed, but damaged. It will be restored,”

Zelensky Makes New Threats Against Russia (RT)

Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky has suggested that Kiev’s forces will conduct more long-range strikes targeting facilities deep inside Russian territory. Ukraine has significantly escalated drone attacks deep into Russia in recent weeks, despite ongoing diplomatic efforts to end the conflict. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has described the actions as an attempt to derail the peace process. In a post on his Telegram channel on Sunday, Zelensky wrote that he had held a meeting with the head of Ukraine’s military intelligence, Kirill Budanov, claiming that Kiev was keeping tabs on Russia’s “main pain points.” He pledged to “strike appropriate blows” with a view to “significantly reducing” Moscow’s military potential.

Zelensky also stated that Kiev was sharing its intelligence on Russia with its Western backers, with which it is “preparing joint defense solutions.” Speaking to reporters also on Sunday, Ukraine’s commander-in-chief, Aleksandr Syrsky, similarly said that Kiev “will increase the scale and depth” of its strikes on Russian military facilities deep inside the country. On June 1, Ukrainian intelligence conducted a coordinated attack on several Russian airbases across five regions, from Murmansk in the Arctic, to Irkutsk in Siberia. Ukrainian media later reported that the operation codenamed ‘Spiderweb’ involved dozens of first-person view (PFV) kamikaze drones. At least some of them were reportedly launched in close proximity to the targets, from commercial trucks that had been covertly brought into Russia.

The strikes were said to have been prepared for more than a year and a half and focused on Russia’s “strategic aviation.” The Defense Ministry in Moscow said that a number of aircraft in Murmansk and Irkutsk regions had caught fire as a result of the attack. Kiev claimed that the strikes had damaged or destroyed approximately 40 Russian military aircraft, including Tu-95 and Tu-22 long-range bombers. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov later dismissed these estimates as incorrect. ”The equipment in question… was not destroyed, but damaged. It will be restored,” the diplomat told TASS in early June. Around the same time, Keith Kellogg, US President Donald Trump’s special envoy, cautioned that “when you attack an opponent’s part of their national survival system, which is their nuclear triad… that means your risk level goes up because you don’t know what the other side’s going to do.”

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The garden becomes the jungle.

The European Garden On The Brink Of Ruin (SCF)

The war in Ukraine is entering a critical stage—not only for Kiev, but also for a Europe that, deluded by meaningless slogans and unrealistic promises, finds itself standing at a geopolitical precipice. Ignoring the clear signs of Ukraine’s military and societal exhaustion, European leaders persist in a suicidal escalation of militarization that, far from preventing Ukraine’s collapse, is dragging the continent into an economic, political, and strategic spiral of decline. The impasse worsened once the U.S. began to show signs of fatigue and a desire to end the conflict. Washington now pushes for a negotiated solution, while Brussels insists on keeping Zelensky afloat, offering not real solutions but false hope in the form of temporary ceasefires and new arms shipments. The goal is obvious: to buy time in hopes of rekindling Washington’s old appetite for war. It’s a dangerous—and fundamentally unrealistic—calculation.

The truth is that Ukraine has no strategic breath left. Since the failed counteroffensive of 2023, the country has plunged into a deep crisis of morale, cohesion, and combat capacity. The situation now resembles that of the Spanish Second Republic after its defeat at the Ebro in 1938: the end is in sight, and the continuation of war serves only to prolong suffering. Zelensky himself, now a deeply unpopular leader, would be politically defeated in any free election—consistently trailing behind military figures like Valeriy Zaluzhniy in every poll. An abrupt internal collapse, whether due to political rifts, military mutinies, or civil unrest, is a very plausible outcome. Such a scenario would not only seal Ukraine’s defeat but also trigger a catastrophic shift in the European balance of power.

Moscow could advance to Odessa, annex vast areas of Ukrainian territory, and reach the European Union’s borders. The consequences would be devastating: NATO demoralized, Brussels’ strategic credibility shattered, and the region permanently destabilized. Even so, the European continent seems unable to acknowledge its military impotence. Leaders like Macron, Starmer, and Kallas continue proposing unworkable peace plans based on illusions of European power—ignoring the fact that France and the UK can barely maintain even minimal operational forces. While Russia mobilizes thousands of tanks, Britain has only a few dozens. Germany, mired in political crisis, can’t even produce enough ammunition at scale. European rhetoric speaks of rearmament, but national budgets tell another story: ballooning deficits, public debt over 100% of GDP, and increasingly hostile populations unwilling to accept social cuts in the name of a war with no future.

The militarization of Europe, sold as a solution, is in fact a symptom of collapse. Lacking an industrial base, political capital, or social support, any attempt to rebuild a significant military force will result either in prolonged recession or the dismantling of the welfare state—two paths that will lead the so-called “European garden” to ruin. In this context, the war in Ukraine is not only the grave of the Atlanticist project, but the tombstone of a Europe that traded its stability for fantasies of power.

Ukraine’s collapse, therefore, will not be an isolated event. It will mirror Europe’s strategic collapse. The refusal to face reality – that a negotiated solution with concessions to Russia is better than total destruction—not only threatens the existence of the Ukrainian state but also drags Europe into an existential crisis. The continent that once saw itself as guardian of the liberal international order is transforming, before our very eyes, into a graveyard of its own illusions.

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“In the West, they say, let’s pay for the reconstruction of Ukraine from the reserves. And they will draw up such a bill that even the reserves will not be enough,”

Western Use of Interest From Russia’s Frozen Assets Is Theft – Top Banker (RT)

The use of the interest generated by Russian assets frozen in the West amounts to theft, Andrey Kostin, the CEO of major Russian lender VTB, told RT on Saturday on the sidelines of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. Kostin condemned the actions of the West, the EU in particular, in regard to Russian assets as “dangerous” games that could eventually be used by others against them. Western countries froze an estimated $300 billion worth of Russian sovereign funds following the escalation of the Ukraine conflict in February 2022. Some $213 billion of the assets are held by the Belgium-based settlement house Euroclear. “It is a very dangerous thing to play such games. You start against one – tomorrow someone will use it against you,” Kostin warned.

The use of proceeds from the assets, which have been repeatedly funneled for procurement of military aid for Ukraine, is grossly illegal and amounts to theft, Kostin noted. While various parties in the West have repeatedly mulled the possibility of seizing the assets themselves, they have failed to find a legal mechanism to do so because there is none, he added. “This is theft. They are using interest now, but interest is the same money of the owner as the principal debt,” he stressed. Moscow has repeatedly condemned the freezing of its assets and has hinted at possible retaliatory measures against Western investments and property in Russia.

Last October, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov warned that Moscow would retaliate in kind and start using the interest generated by the assets of “unfriendly” countries and organizations held in Russia for its own needs. Kostin has long been skeptical about the prospects of Russia ever seeing its frozen assets again. Late last year, he suggested that the funds will never be returned under the pretext of Ukraine’s purported “reconstruction.” “In the West, they say, let’s pay for the reconstruction of Ukraine from the reserves. And they will draw up such a bill that even the reserves will not be enough,” Kostin said at the time.

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  • #190731
    Topcat
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    #190732
    Topcat
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    I did wonder what happened to Chris Christy

    #190733
    Dr D Rich
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    Add poacher and a little slow to objective pedophile in Ritter’s curriculum vitae rap sheet.

    It was already written here even without miker’s fawning devotion to that sick shit that passes for Ritter’s alluring videos.

    Jesu Cristo the madness

    #190734
    Topcat
    Participant

    To a generation that obsessively takes cell phone photos of themselves and calls them ‘selfies’ because ‘narcissisties’ is too hard to spell

    #190735
    Topcat
    Participant

    The Strait of Hormuz

    You don’t actually have to “close it”

    You just have to say you’re going to block certain carriers and their insurance company will yank their coverage.

    Let the insurance companies do all the heavy lifting here.

    #190736
    Topcat
    Participant

    An important detail in grammar having to do with ‘tense’

    • US Intervened Because Israel Was on Brink of Defeat – Iranian Ex-Ambassador. <<<<<WRONG

    • US Intervened Because Israel IS on Brink of Defeat – Iranian Ex-Ambassador

    Israel is being taken apart with missiles.

    Behold Hafia

    Parts of it look like Gaza now:

    https://x.com/i/status/1936100990085632485

    #190737
    Dr D Rich
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       Major US Cities on Alert After US Airstrikes on Iranian Nuclear Facilities (ET)

    Not a snowball’s chance in Hell of the unstated implications of this title ever happening. …that Iran could, would, should attack anyone except Israel since The President stated he is protecting Israel from the bully.

    However, the intent IS to condition the American People just like the conditioning and preparation of the same people prior to March 2003, The Iraq War for Israel and the MIC.
    What’s next, Anthrax? COVID redux?

    #190738
    Topcat
    Participant

    #190739
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “They did not use B-2s nor bunker buster bombs and the damage was superficial”
    “Donald Trump to Barak Ravid few hours ago: “We achieved a great success tonight. Israel is now much safer.”
    “Oil tankers will not be able to reach Europe through the Strait of Hormuz.”
    “Before last night’s attacks: Pakistan recommends Trump for Nobel Obama Peace Prize”

    I can’t cover it all, don’t have time, and no one knows what’s true anyway, but Iran says they moved all material, etc from the site. Trump hit nothing. …Which also makes me wonder what the point of having hardened bases is, if you’re just going to farm out the tasks to safehouses using deception. This goes with the Chinese cargo, which landed perhaps not bringing stuff but removing it?

    Idea: remember all nations have factions. If I were the shills, or merely Team C in Iran, you just call MI6 on the phone and say “Hey boss, General Muhammad is in base X” and let Israel blow up your competition for you. Instant promotion. …If you’re not already allied or an employee of the “West” to begin with. So new depth to “Decapitation strike”.

    Okay, as I don’t have time to strike, here’s what is said: Israel has Trump by the balls over the Budget, of course, He owns more Senators, eg Graham. They are running out of time and Tulsi/Hegseth + Powell are very slowly squeezing them out. At some point the power balance flips where they own 49% not 51%, so they need to act. ALL actions are good when you’re losing, burn every asset, try every gambit. We know.

    But in this situation, they go to Trump and say “We’re going to nuke Iran, stop us.” Note the situation: Nuclear WWIII pops up, Europe off the hook. Opens that door to the Brave New World, history stops and a new book opens. Now what can Trump do right now? Nuke Israel instead? Everyone around’s been raised in the post WWII reality of “Closest allies” “Iran Bad” “Holocaust Worship” s—t. And by “them” I mean Generals, colonels, think tanks, CEOs, everyone. That’s vanishing fast, but presently still true. So WE might say idgaf, but the actors of the power base from the bottom to the top, local politicos in SC right up to Joint Chief will +70% rebel at this.

    Here’s where you Pollyannas sit on the couch and don’t get punched in the nuts making hard decisions. You’re in a war, Princess: the decision is WHICH city do you want bombed, not IF. You have resources to protect one, or would have to blow the war defending both, etc. You just gave the order Lincoln gets leveled because you defended Portsmouth and rightfully so. But everyone will point and call you Hitler, as they do all generals, like Patton and Ike. Man up.

    So in this scenario, Trump warns them of this, and Via Russia. That’s the “Evacuate Tehran” (since Israel is going to nuke it) deal. Russia is silent. Gabbard and Hegseth are set aside in case of emergencies. “Outside” being “Anitwar”. Then TRUMP bombs all the bases Israel planned to Nuke, because this is the BETTER outcome, where 1) No radioactive fallout for 40 years 2) No radioactive leak from the uranium inside the base. IAEA sniffers found nothing, which is pretty odd.

    What’s Israel’s move now? Trump just “Fixed” their problem (on TV, to the masses) with hitting them harder than anyone could ask. Doing everything they want. And Israel is now subject to Iran’s “Retaliation” which can run freely, so Israel can really, deeply, experience and enjoy the fruits of war. That happened this morning.

    Can Israel nuke the bases that were just nuked and start WWIII, turning us to a totally different game board? No. Bomb what? The entrances are already leveled. Bomb downtown Tehran? Why? Lols? And our budget is in a few days, on the 4th. No doubt they cut a deal they would clear that if we did this.

    Okay, so WHAT HAPPENED? The U.S. hit nothing. ISRAEL is now the one totally exposed. This is EXACTLY the gambit they used with the orgasmic “Beautiful Bombs!!!” “Trump is a real President now” in Syria. …When he hit the MOSSAD base and weapons factory, shooting Tomahawks into nothing.

    …Yeah, Israel, MI6 didn’t ask him to “help” so much after that, did they?

    Iran has ALL the uranium still. They are still standing. They are in the long position, with time on their side. Israel is getting hammered. Hey is ISRAEL that is our true enemy here, so to speak? THEY are the ones running our Senators? THEY are the dual citizens in office? And Israel is an European colony project. They’re all Northern Europeans killing the local aborigines. Quotes above, WHO is hit?

    B2s were a big show. Base itself is fine even though they hit it for real. Mossad can read satellite pic ya know, it has to be real craters there. Project carries on. Uranium is safe. Iran is not decapitated. ISRAEL is getting bombed and Cheeto say “But, but but! That’s what you TOLD me to do Nutsy! This is YOUR plan, man! I just executed it.” .

    Who else is out? Europe gets no WWIII which saves them, both: Not Europe and saves them from financial strangling Powell just -ss f—ked them with yesterday. Ukraine has Russia’s full focus, Trump has “hands off”, he says, “Well gosh by golly, sorry, I would but so. Busy! Swear if YOU in Europe, Israel hadn’t done this, I would’ve solved Ukraine by golly!” Har har.

    Okay, so Der Docktor is on the Trump train, sha-la-la! Nope.

    Let’s say we have the classic situation they prime us all for since 9-12, from “24”: The t’rrists! From under me bed! I have to torture him or a nuke goes off! …So you understand torture is good and necessary, don’t you, my Christian brother? And the more spread more widely the better, right? The safererer we are? C’mon Cleetus, just a little torture. …Or to be real, it’s actually Thad from Haaaah-vard who does this. Cleetus has the brains God gave a sponge, so he’s smarter than that.

    NO. Obviously. You feel the need to do this, great! Do it. ...And we’re going to arrest and try you for the exact same crimes. IF you love your country, you won’t mind doing twenty in Leavenworth to save it, will you? What you did was a CRIME, sir. IF you believe in the country, we don’t allow war crimes. That’s not American. Find another way or do the time. That’s called “Consequences”.

    Same here, so Trump stops the greater disaster, a direct door into WWIII! A Hero! He stopped that nuke going off!

    Jack Bauer wins! Huzzah!

    Nope. We Impeach. Why? You took upon yourself to declare a direct war on a probable nuclear power, which would cause WWIII in the middle east and larger world, aka Russia, China, without even CONSULTING Congress, not officially. That is CLEARLY out of bounds.

    All I see is any nation, any nutter can just go “I’m going to bomb the Mormons next door” and make YOU jump and and bomb them FIRST? So you can bomb them slightly less? Nope. Jail sir. We don’t parley with terrorists. We don’t take orders.
    Rec

    Then at your trial you can go EXPLAIN TO US in tiny words wtf you thought you were doing and why, all on record to the American people. And regrettably, the President’s latitude is wide, esp for a first 30 days, all that needs to be updated as you couldn’t “War” London in 1801 in 60 seconds back then. And also Congress is FOR this, as I said. So given the situation, They’d do it more than he has.

    And IF there were an impeachment there might be four total adults in Congress who wouldn’t use it to flip the GOP out and put the worst woke communists in who would round us all up and kill us, finishing their (Europe’s) “Russian Rev 2.0” Plan.

    I don’t care, Margaret. Too bad. Solves all kinds of problems. President can’t do this. Evidence comes out. Democratic discussion is had. Blackmail, Israel, discussed. U.S. breaks completely free of Israel and possibly Europe on the revelations. Maga is cracked right now, we are reverting, restoring, original “American” government. Trump is taken out/down. No Caesar leaders. No one is above the law. We stop wars, since without a declaration you get jailed. Dems are finally satisfied, bringing the nation together under one unity banner. Trump is out, Vance or whoever fills continuing to “Normalization.” 100 more great, magical reasons.

    Here’s the only one that matters to me:

    IF YOU ARGUABLY BROKE THE LAW YOU GET IMPEACHED. Full stop. That’s why we have laws.

    Here’s the problem: No one will. Congress loves it. Lobbies love it. If we did, Dems wouldn’t restrain and be responsible. MAGA may not want this, but they SURE won’t want to impeach, it’s too much of an emotional reversal, etc. They need to digest this.

    But my job is to present what we SHOULD do, nobody listenin’ to me. You did the thing, welcome to jail, here’s your day in court to explain.

    Okay, we now return to “Reality of what’s really going to happen, and what’s really going on“, whether I like it or not, or approve or not.

    …Now I see why they say the U.S. will break up into pieces. With not MAGA at this moment, not a Civil War, maybe, but people stop looking to the center. To the Man. No One is worthy, no, not one. So shift focus to their regional area, and that may or may not include Alberta.

    “Now Israel spins its wheels, striking empty or nonessential ‘nuclear sites’ to no effect merely to evoke a sense of momentum for its flagging operation, while Iran slowly reorganizes itself and puts the country on a wartime footing.”

    That’s the present gameboard.

    Is the U.S. massing a million men to go fix this? Nope. We ain’t goin’. …That Nimitz is probably still on though. Isr not done yet, I wager, they (Europe) is going to do all kinds of demented things. MI6 was working with Ukr to use a Russian torpedo to sink a Navy ship.

    …And we haven’t talked false flag in U.S. Nuke New Jersey, blame it on Iran. They would, in two seconds if they can. Hard to stop. You want to trade downtown Boston for (not) hitting one doorway in the desert? That you warned Iran about ahead of time? Grow up.

    “The closure of Hormuz and oil prices spiking to ungodly levels would crush that miracle and send Trump’s ‘golden age’ into the sewer,”

    No. It destroys EUROPE. And Israel. Haifa was slow, but now destroyed. The U.S. can easily EASILY muddle through such a thing. And how ‘bout that war in Europe with no oil for Germany, but Russia has infinity? All another “oops” for Trump, constantly slippin’ on that banana peel.

    “Israel has lost its oil refining capacity indefinitely and could face serious fuel problems,”
    And also: Oil from where? Not Iran. Not via Suez.

    Dammit JB, after all that blathering, you beat me on this yesterday. Yes, the Syria “Beautiful bomb” strike.

    “Trump is no longer the anti-war president.”

    Yes, and MAGA is cracked, though not as badly as I expected. But this is the game-play corner they boxed Trump in. Do this; or do THAT. He took the war option, and that may be right, but in a sense it’s over. No peace President = No MAGA. That’s why Impeachment would right the ship.

    …But the Epstein list with 150 Congressmen being marched out for Mossad would too, it would explain things nicely.

    …And I didn’t get to cover today yet.

    #190740
    tboc
    Participant

    Dr D Rich Andy and Scotty’s only purpose is give carnival barkers a more meaningful place in society.

    a description of the affliction infecting anyone who gives any credence to those two cretins”

    Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, and remember information in a way that supports one’s existing beliefs while ignoring or dismissing contradictory evidence. This bias can lead to flawed decision-making and reinforce personal beliefs, even in the face of opposing information.

    #190741
    tboc
    Participant

    rules based disorder and total spectrum incompetence

    all three branches of the sitting US federal government make Benedict Arnold look as a partriot

    #190742
    tboc
    Participant

    yer right old man, but it’s PROFITABLE

    #190743
    Topcat
    Participant

    Ukraine so broke they can’t meet basic payroll in government at any level

    #190744
    Topcat
    Participant

    Israel hit at dawn this morning

    Impressive

    https://x.com/i/status/1936884243885699297

    #190745
    Dr. D
    Participant

    And didn’t I already say I was out even last week and called for impeachment already once last month? When you have principles, these things are easy.

    “He claims the US bombs only literally pounded sand, and reality differs greatly from the narrative.”

    Seems to be. If so, then what? Trump kept his word to Israel. This is all their doing,w hat they wanted. Now no oil in Europe? See how much they like Israel then. …Or sadly, all Jews either, who are about to get monkey-hammered in the crossfire. Morons. I see them online breathless for war right now, usual, “My side” stuff, whatever Iran does is evil, my side never dun wrong, all media talking points, so in that sense, just normies, but… But THE WORLD IS GOING TO SAY YOU DID THIS. And they’re not going to neatly and nicely distinguish between Israel and Jews like I do. And really, REALLY when you called for this openly, knowing it was murder, only this week, you fools.

    …Note, to me this is the same dumbassery that the U.S. Right did going into Iraq, that is, it’s not special, it shows no special ill-will but it isn’t going to wear well either. I can’t protect you from that. Not sure I care. You called for war elsewhere, and so it came to your house. Boo-hoo. Problem is, people merely ill-informed via the world’s greatest propaganda op in history, and people who marched Against it, are all going to get swept up.

    “• Medvedev: Countries Now Ready To Supply Iran With Nuclear Warheads (ZH)

    Yes, as yesterday, the NPT no longer exists. The IAEA inspectors cease to exist, and every nation needs a nuke, pronto. Thanks. #Winning. From the Mafia side: the POINT of having a UN, IAEA, etc IS to lie, decieve, then when they’re a useless husk, admit the betrayal to the rube who were dumb enough to believe you. Like Iran, but also like Jeff Sachs. Guy spends his life trying to STOP nukes, his documents get fed to the war-targeting machine to CAUSE them, cause war. You moron. Have you never read “Frankenstein”? Why do scientists still create deadly weapons “Only my side is good, we’ll never use, and will never escape”? JHC. And the “inventor” of AI out there on the circuit warning about what HE created. AGAIN.

    “We owe a deep gratitude to science…
    …For solving all the problem created by Science.” — Jon Stewart.

    • US Intervened Because Israel Was on Brink of Defeat – Iranian Ex-Ambassador (Sp.)

    Yes, but substitute “The West”, Europe, Davos, Banking, whatever. Even the U.S. is breaking free from them. And then add “Israel ASKED, blackmailed, forced” etc we didn’t just jump in like we were one person. There are factions and the factions matter.

    “• US Strikes on Iran Reckless Breach of Sovereignty – Russian FM (Sp.)

    Among the impeachables. Even with wide latitude, he contradicted the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty because IF other nations sign it, they can’t be attacked THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT. But I’d have to look into law, are we even a signatory since we defy it daily ourselves?

    “• Moscow Blasts US Redo Of ‘Iraqi Weapons Of Mass Destruction’ Stunt (RT)

    Yup, It’s not working. But it’s also breaking MAGA, which is good for Davos.

    Democratic presidents such as Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are suddenly opposed to Trump using the same power.”

    Yup, they can’t be trusted. If we had a Congress, Impeachment would be a no-brainer, but if we had a Congress, we wouldn’t be here in the first place.

    “• Vance, Rubio Call For Peace With Iran, Say Regime Change Is Not The Goal (ZH)

    Do they now? And why would anyone believe them? Or the U.S.? That’s not a BAD thing, clearly you SHOULDN’T believe us, if it takes us tying you up with duct tape to scare you enough to stop trusting us, sobeit. Get the message.

    “• The EU’s Favorite War: The One Israel Starts (Marsden)

    The EU here.

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    They are dividing up and colonizing the world, from Ukr to the M.E. to Brazil, Africa, they want it ALL. EU thinks it ALL belongs to them. We just police it like a coolie.

    “Trump’s administration has made a colossal mistake.”

    Again, above: Weird Mistake. Trump makes weird mistakes like this all the time for 50 years. Wot a dummy.

    “he US will be pulled deeper into a military confrontation almost by default. If on the other hand, Tehran holds back or offers only a token response, Israel’s leadership – backed by its neoconservative allies in Washington – will seize the moment to pressure the White House: now is the time to finish off a weakened regime and force a convenient replacement.”

    Yup, he highlights this is a trap for MAGA. Trump is out, having to choose ruins his base.
    …Unless you know that’s what’s going on. Then it’s just EU/Israel being a dick. And we all turn against our common enemy: them.

    “• Major US Cities on Alert After US Airstrikes on Iranian Nuclear Facilities (ET)

    And then by the Law of Nothing Ever Happens, nothing ever happened. So Iran is so mad at us, they did nothing, anywhere. And are solely collapsing Isr instead. Huh. Almost like we’re on the same page after we warned them.

    “• The European Garden On The Brink Of Ruin (SCF)

    If we and Powell can hold out a little longer. Not have a WWIII nuclear drop that flips the gameboard.

    “US intervention in the middle east is correlated to 11 year solar cycle of sunspot activity

    Ppl go nuts in sunspots. But also this is “Astrology” the Occult, which the bad guys follow, plan, and reinforce. So is it now the cause? Or the effect?

    #190746
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Marsden nails it!

    #190747
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Just to think that “anti-Trumps” of a past decade or so were “right”, for a different reason but still “right”?

    In the past few months every image of Trump revealed strain in his face with painful gaze – as he knows that his base knows that he betrayed them.
    Trump and our “lawmakers” live scripted life on a daily basis. What an existence!?

    #190748
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Problem is, people merely ill-informed via the world’s greatest propaganda op in history, and people who marched Against it, are all going to get swept up.
    Sounds just like The Vax scene.
    Nice rant today Dr D

    #190749
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Systems thinking can never account for details and the many ways to see a thing from the mind of a tiny soul but I like this framing a lot for what it’s worth.

    https://escapekey.substack.com/p/the-complete-architecture?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=email

    #190750
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I’m surprised that no one of significant international stature has said so yet, so it is fitting that a complete nobody from nowhere says it first.

    It is time for the nation state of Israel to negotiate a peace agreement while it is still a nation state capable of signing the papers. The longer they stall then the less desirable will be the terms that they must accept until the point is reached (and soon) that the point becomes irrelevant. There will simply not be an internationally recognized nation of Israel to sign anything.

    They are presently not quite so far along on the road to extinction as is Ukraine, but their basic situation is nearly identical. They are merely a political fiction designed by people shuffling papers, favors and carefully obscured plans, negotiated deep within the bowels of Rothschild’s Europe and Nazi Germany in 1933, and can just as easily go back to being just another failed idea instead of a real place.

    Talk now while you still have a voice, Benjamin. Your clock hasn’t got many ticks left in it.

    And by the way, regardless of the other details you manage to wrangle out of the contract, just forget about being an exclusively “Jewish” nation. That kind of megalomaniacal insanity died with the Bronze Age. You just didn’t notice.

    #190751
    zerosum
    Participant

    The Trump admin is working feverishly to sell the narrative that Iran’s nuclear facilities are “obliterated” and “the war is over”.

    reality

    https://x.com/iwasnevrhere_/status/1936795685111656696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1936799415148347406%7Ctwgr%5E0bb0e59e583ecc257e241d6778e3e41c6ce6ef1c%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theautomaticearth.com%2F2025%2F06%2Fdebt-rattle-june-23-2025%2F

    Ended Iranian nuclear threat, that’s because there wasn’t one before.
    They bombed two abandoned desert sites, and one-Fordow- that they couldn’t hit.

    He bombed two empty facilities that had been previously struck by Israel.

    And he bounced six bombs off an indestructible facility (Firdos), claiming destruction despite the opposite being the case.

    That’s it.

    Expected Reaction

    to block the Strait of Hormuz
    send oil prices skyrocketing, triggering global inflation and economic shockwaves.
    ———-
    NO/NIL Expected Reaction

    #190752
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    In this age of AI, satellites and instantaneously synchronous connection-of-everything I’m surprised that Iran is not already running the Straits of Hormuz like a High Tech Private Toll-Gate. It would be easy-peasy for them to be in Realtime Fulltime communication with every individual vessel and everyone else who has anything to do with that vessel, including the ship’s country of origin, owners of the vessel itself, buyers and sellers of the cargo on board, and most importantly each and every one of the myriad INSURERS connected to every single one of the categories of goods, services, personnel and political interests that pass close to their shores in that bottleneck.

    Seems to me that an enterprising and ambitious master of markets could control the price of every item that passes by, just by influencing the speed and insurance costs of getting through those narrow straits.

    Want to ship something through there? I’m sure we can make a deal, and with all of this techno-gadgetry at my disposal I’m sure we can do it quickly (or as slowly and expensively as I choose to make it) …. so better be nice to me and play by my rules if you want to use my Toll Gate.

    #190753
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/img_5696-1.jpg?resize=768%2C704&ssl=1

    #190754
    zerosum
    Participant

    Damage assessment – Medvedev
    ————
    The attacks as ultimately ineffective, and that it will blow back on America and Israel in a way opposite than intended, especially as Tehran will now only push harder for a nuke, and allied countries might now simply be willing to supply them to the Iranians.

    1. Critical infrastructure of the nuclear fuel cycle appears to have been unaffected or sustained only minor damage.
    2. The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue.
    3. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads.
    4. Israel is under attack, explosions are rocking the country, and people are panicking.
    5. The US is now entangled in a new conflict, with prospects of a ground operation looming on the horizon.
    6. Iran’s political regime has survived — and in all likelihood, has come out even stronger.
    7. The people are rallying around the country’s spiritual leadership, including those who were previously indifferent or opposed to it.
    8. Donald Trump, once hailed as ‘president of peace,’ has now pushed the US into another war.
    9. The vast majority of countries around the world oppose the actions of Israel and the United States.
    10. At this rate, Trump can forget about the Nobel Peace Prize — not even with how rigged it has become.
    ————-
    • US Intervened Because Israel Was on Brink of Defeat – Iranian Ex-Ambassador (Sp.)

    IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi said on June 18, the agency’s inspectors have not seen concrete evidence that Iran was pursuing a nuclear weapons program.
    ————-
    • Moscow Blasts US Redo Of ‘Iraqi Weapons Of Mass Destruction’ Stunt (RT)

    “Many today feel a strong sense of déjà vu,” he said. “The current situation is essentially no different: we are once again being urged to believe in fairy tales in order to once again bring suffering to millions of people living in the Middle East.”

    • Democrats Denounce Iranian Attack as Unconstitutional (Turley)

    In the meantime, the calls for impeachment are absurd given the prior actions of presidents in using this very authority.
    Once again, some Democrats appear intent on applying a different set of rules for impeaching Trump than any of his predecessors.
    ————

    #190755
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I keep seeing headlines and articles all over the place that in one way or another say that, “To help Israel protect itself Trump wants regime change in Iran.”

    What a waste of ink and verbiage. You can say exactly the same thing in just three words! Think of the time, space (and ink!) that could be saved by using the short version : Israel wants Iran.

    See? Way more efficient.

    #190756
    those darned kids
    Participant

    seems the israelis need to learn ol’ tsk’s maxim:

    “Those who know the most about history are those who are doomed to repeat it.”

    #190757
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuDSmMCWkAAc1AU?format=jpg&name=large

    #190758
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    From The Mank in the Arena:

      Here’s where you Pollyannas sit on the couch and don’t get punched in the nuts making hard decisions. You’re in a war, Princess:

    Frame it with that photo of The Dyspeptic Three arrayed behind Trump’s Iran Annihilation Declaration
    1. Cpl JD Vance Hamel BLANTON
    2. Major SexyBeastEgseth NatGard via Fox News
    3. Little Marco the wrestler Rubio

    Presidential Timberrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!

    “Don’t bomb the country Israel just bombed while you’re negotiating with said country”
    According to Mank in the Arena that’s hard to say without couching it or punching one’s nuts.

    #190759
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Just to think that “anti-Trumps” of a past decade or so were “right”, for a different reason but still “right”?

    ¿huh?, i spotted that trash the moment he did this:

    The earliest military engagement authorized by the first Trump administration was the January 29, 2017, raid in Yemen against al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). Here are the key details:

    Operation Details
    Date: January 29, 2017 (9 days after Trump’s inauguration) 92.

    Location: Yakla village, central Yemen 9.

    Objective: Gather intelligence on AQAP and target high-value militants 9.

    Forces Involved: Navy SEAL Team 6, supported by UAE Special Forces and U.S. aircraft 9.

    Approval Process

    Origins: Planned during the Obama administration but not approved by Obama due to risks and “significant escalation” concerns 9.

    Trump’s Authorization: Approved over dinner on January 25, 2017, with advisers (including Mattis, Kushner, and Bannon). Trump conditionally greenlit it after a 30-minute briefing 9.

    Timeline: Launched during a moonless night (a tactical requirement), which occurred days after Trump took office 9.

    Outcome and Controversy

    Casualties:

    U.S.: Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens killed; 3 soldiers injured; an MV-22 Osprey aircraft destroyed 92.

    Civilians: At least 23 Yemeni civilians killed, including 10 women and children 9.

    Criticism: Labeled a “botched” operation due to intelligence failures. A defense official admitted: “It went off-track from the start” 9.

    White House Defense: Claimed valuable intelligence was gathered (e.g., laptops with AQAP data), though this was later disputed

    #190760
    those darned kids
    Participant

    trash, trash, chrump

    NINE DAYS INTO OFFICE THE FIRST WRETCHED TIME, AND HE DOES THIS FOR A RATINGS BOOST:

    Civilians: At least 23 Yemeni civilians killed, including 10 women and children.

    #190761
    those darned kids
    Participant

    trash, trash, chrump
    trash, trash, chrump
    trash, trash, chrump
    trash, trash, chrump
    trash, trash, chrump
    trash, trash, chrump
    trash, trash, chrump
    trash, trash, chrump
    trash, trash, chrump
    trash, trash, chrump

    #190762
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Stuff from Moon of Alabama comments that might be wrong, but looks like news

    Iranian Parliament Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf officially announced that Iran is suspending all cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)

    NATO Chief says US strikes on Iran were not in violation of international law.

    Israeli Power Generation – 60% offline ?

    ‘Everything depends on what Iran needs’ — Kremlin spox Peskov on Russia’s readiness to assist Iran
    ‘We have offered our mediation efforts. We have stated our position. This is one form of support for Iran. But going forward, everything will depend on Iran’s needs’

    UK Foreign Office issues travel warning for Kuwait, Qatar and UAE

    White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt: “We are confident that Iran’s nuclear sites were completely and totally obliterated.”

    US embassy in Qatar tells American citizens that they should shelter in place until further notice.

    WSJ: The U.S. has asked Arab nations to convey a message to Iran that Israel wants the war to end soon.

    Just checked Ship Traffic Live AIS feed and it does indeed indicate that Ashdod Port is going dormant. The strikes Sunday-Monday night seem to have been successful. To be confirmed.
    Eilat
    Haifa
    Ashdod
    Thats all 3 commericial ports.

    Russia & US are in talks on Iran — Putin aide Ushakov

    DPRK strongly condemns US strikes on Iran

    Trump Doesn’t Rule Out Regime Change in Iran

    The IDF announced it has attacked six air bases in Iran and destroyed 15 fighter jets and helicopters of the Iranian Air Force:
    As part of efforts to strengthen its air superiority in Iran, the IDF attacked six Iranian airfields in western, eastern and central Iran.
    The strikes damaged runways, underground bunkers, a tanker aircraft, and F-14, F-5 and AH-1 aircraft

    Iran publishes detailed 3D visualization of #Israel’s Dimona nuclear site in the Negev desert.

    Some unconfirmed reports claim that Israeli jets flew into Iran from the Caspian Sea at low altitude. Azerbaijan?

    Some of the Israeli targets in Tehran / Karaj:
    – Iranian State TV buildings
    – Evin Prison and another prison in Karaj
    – Energy Ministry building
    – Shaheed Beheshti University
    – Police / Basij district offices
    and then the roads to fordow to allegedly prevent workers and people form assessing the damage.

    Following Trump’s announcement last night regarding the U.S. government’s intention to change the “regime” in Iran, this issue has been placed on the agenda of the Israeli Air Force, and as of this morning, bombings in Tehran and Karaj have resumed.
    The targets chosen by the Zionist regime are all related to internal security and include police stations, cyber police, Basij forces, urban patrols, the entrance to Tehran’s Evin prison (which houses Mossad spies), and other urban service centers.

    Latest BDA assessments on Fordow suggest that the three topmost holes might not be impact craters at all, but the visible remains of the ventilation ducts, whose massive concrete covers have been obliterated by channelling a large underground blast that occurred inside the the 2009 section of the installation. 

    #190763
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Anyone watch Trump’s speech about the Iran strike?

    I was carefully watching the 3 guys behind him.

    To me, Rubio looked a little bit panicked and bewildered – in my head, his thoughts were “Hey, I was just supposed to take some bribes, get some kickbacks, vote a few things, not start WW3 or collapse the world economy, wtf is happening?!?” (RubioTelepathy™)

    To me, Hegseth seemed like he was working hard to and successfully maintaining neutral-affect. Although maybe that says something.

    Vance was just continually frowning. Is that his sober, serious wartime face? His “This is not what I would have done” face? His stand-in for neutral?

    #190764
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “I was out even last week and called for impeachment”

    call for shackles and monster island and maybe you’ll be on to something.

    #190765
    poppie
    Participant

    I had to look up this bunker buster thing. How does it perform. Obviously not a lot in the public domain. Lots of obfuscation. This is just my opinion from what i found. I went as far back as I could including predecessors. 200 ft in ideal conditions. 8 ft in worst conditions, No information on loose sand. I suspect loose sand would be difficult (pound sand). I doubt they work reliably as well as reported. Even worse without pin point accuracy. Good for shows.

    #190766
    John Day
    Participant

    Ilargi wrote:
    “Iran will not target LA. Why on earth should they?”

    Sun Tzu wrote:
    “When your enemy is defeating himself, do not interfere.”

    #190767
    Topcat
    Participant

    #190768
    zerosum
    Participant

    Missiles lost their way or running out of fuel. (Expected Quatar, and Iraq crash landing)

    #190769
    Topcat
    Participant

    Iran launched missile strikes on #US bases in #Qatar & #Iraq

    #Qatar airspace is closed now!

    Video:

    https://x.com/i/status/1937192548948410428

    Counter fire AD:

    https://x.com/i/status/1937192535006269698

    #190770
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Report: Iran launched 6 missiles at Qatar, 1 at Iraq. Targeting U.S bases in each country”

    https://xcancel.com/Tehrantimes79

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