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    Gustave Caillebotte Rue Mont-Cenis, Montmartre 1880     This is an anonymously posted document by someone who calls themselves Spartacus. Be
    [See the full post at: Spartacus]

    #88180
    a kullervo
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    Just another mirror to compound the mirror maze.

    TPTB are trying to extend homo sapiens sapiens shelf life in the most humane fashion “they” thought to be possible, i.e., voluntary – albeit uninformed – self-termination instead of global war.

    What would you do if you knew for certain that a life-extinguishing event was about to happen?
    Would you inform the masses?
    Or would you let them to simply enjoy the rest of their days immersed in their most cherished idiosyncrasies?

    #88181
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @kullervo: F that. It’s not their decision to make. We aren’t children.

    #88182
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    That idea also assumes there is benevolence associated with what TPTB are doing. Sure, that’s what it is – they care so much about us they’re allowing us to blithely terminate ourselves rather than experience an upcoming life-extinguishing event only they have knowledge of. Jesus.

    These covid injections were not developed by science, whatever that term means at this point in history. They were developed by people with a God Complex, are produced by people with a Greed Complex, and mandated by people with a Power Complex. They are psychotic. All of them.

    #88184
    Noirette
    Participant

    Some time ago phoenixvoice posted saying she/he did not believe in the de-population scenario underpinning covid and vaxxes. Replies followed, had no time to answer then. Sort of a side, companion, tangential, to the Spartacus piece.

    We can see that the regulatory, advisory Gvmt. (or para-State bodies – CDC and the like), as well as Professional Groups / Associations (Medicos for ex.), top bosses in many areas, Hospital managers, Intl bodies (WHO) etc. etc. have all been somehow ‘cancelled’ (re. their role, supposed influence), corrupted, undermined, somehow tricked or coerced to go along with a completely constructed, made-up agenda, a hysterical, manipulatory, performance. Most I guess would call that now the imposed dominant narrative overwhelming us all, which takes some of the sting out…(why it is dominant is left in the shade..)

    De-population may be a motive for some latchers-on; just as eliminating older ppl, a drain on finances, may be for others. Tech cos. may jump on the oppos afforded by test-and-trace, digital passes; authoritarians everywhere orgasmically embrace ‘mandates’ re. masks, hygiene, vaxxes, moves against refusniks. Defense generally welcomes any enemy, even those who live ‘in the home country’ — Police and other enforcers aquire new powers, arms, higher pay. Med labs., the hygiene industry make out like bandits. Karl Schwab gets to tout build back better and the Green Industry jumps on as well – etc… An atmosphere of crisis encourages all these impulses, opportunists, scammers, rogues.

    Onto the original sin, which has two faces, the first is Profit Above All, the second is Man over Nature. When a large powerful country (USA) has, and imposes on others a vision that health-care is essentially money-making “free market” enterprise, it is a given that ordinary ppl will be milked, chanelled, coerced, subject to all kinds of med. scams, some designed to make lightning profits, others more attuned to the long-term, keeping ppl alive to have them (their families) pay. Pay and pay…

    Big Pharma becomes ‘criminal’ so to speak, as naturally (sic) pills / drugs / remedies / preventatives that fit into a small box can be wildly profitable, via advertising, corruption, psy-ops, etc. (As compared to for ex. physical rehab of paralyzed patients, which requires a whole slew of expensive real estate, matériel, docs and phisios, etc. Or at least a few keen helpers.. and a good plan…) Due to human nature, the quick fix of jabs, creams, pills, etc. is stunningly profitable, and the forced acceptance of authority in the med field means that life-long meds, harsh expensive treatments, etc. are accepted without question. Others (finance, humanitarians..) endorse and follow – for some grasping of the profits.

    The other face, which permits and sollicits the first, is that Man transcends Nature, or can dominate it, or organise it as he wills. We humans write the narrative, the script, the orders, and all obstacles are instantly overcome. By fiat, by the stroke of a pen, the authorative solemn mouthing face on TV, from the Prez. podium, the advisory from the Authority, we are supposed to believe, to adhere, and to question only around the fringes, pro forma.

    It follows that any story line that provides massive profits can be sold as good to go! The loosers and the dead are of no account…Profit and being ‘right’, controlling the news that seeps to the public, is all that counts. These mechanisms have slowly in the last say 30 years flowered, gained more and more traction, influence.

    ————–

    Germ you posted about Lithuania: a personal account of a man who is truly stuck and describes the situation there (eng)

    https://txti.es/covid-pass/images

    #88185
    zerosum
    Participant

    Focus fixed on Covid-19
    What are the enablers hiding?
    What are the elites afraid of?
    What the media wants you to ignore

    Global protests

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/30/mapping-major-protests-around-the-world
    By Mohammed Haddad
    30 Mar 2021
    Mapping major protests around the world

    In 2019, an estimated 185 countries took part in the world’s biggest climate awareness protests.
    ———
    https://fridaysforfuture.org/

    WHAT WE DO:
    #FridaysForFuture is a youth-led and -organised movement that began in August 2018, after 15-year-old Greta Thunberg and other young activists sat in front of the Swedish parliament every schoolday for three weeks, to protest against the lack of action on the climate crisis. She posted what she was doing on Instagram and Twitter and it soon went viral.

    https://www.euronews.com/2021/09/24/there-s-no-going-back-thunberg-addresses-tens-of-thousands-of-climate-activists-outside-re
    Updated: 24/09/2021
    Tens of thousands of protesters gathered outside Germany’s parliament on Friday calling on authorities to take stronger action against climate change.

    It comes only two days before the country holds a national election that will designate chancellor Angela Merkel’s successor after her almost 16 years in power.

    Swedish activist Greta Thunberg, 18, addressed the Berlin crowd from a stage, urging voters to keep politicians under constant pressure over climate change.
    The Berlin protest was part of a string of rallies around the world, from Japan and Italy to India, Austria and Britain.

    ———

    https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/the-true-believers-backing-ivermectin-20210915-p58ryu
    Emma Connors
    Sep 17, 2021
    The true believers backing ivermectin
    Jolly is not going to stop. He has read and circulated information to his staff on what he describes as “successful protocols involving ivermectin, vitamin D, vitamin C and zinc” to treat early stage COVID-19 and to prevent onset. “I’ve done a lot of independent research, making sure of the data and following the science,” Jolly tells AFR Weekend. He obtained sufficient quantities of the drug to give all of his workforce two doses over the last two weeks and says he’s had 100 per cent buy in.

    #88186
    Germ
    Participant

    PT Indofarma Tbk which is a subsidiary of SOE Bio Farma will produce 8 million grains (tablets) or around 400 thousand bottles of Ivermectin in July 2021. This number will continue to double in August or become 16 million grains to meet demand public.

    https://tinyurl.com/3e4e5n64

    Here’s Indonesia’s Covid graph – extraordinary!

    https://tinyurl.com/9anc3r29

    #88192

    biden

    #88195
    DarkMatter
    Participant

    Info about the historical Spartacus:

    Spartacus was a Thracian gladiator who, along with Crixus, Gannicus, Castus, and Oenomaus, was one of the escaped slave leaders in the Third Servile War, a major slave uprising against the Roman Republic. This rebellion, interpreted by some as an example of oppressed people fighting for their freedom against a slave-owning oligarchy, has provided inspiration for many political thinkers, and has been featured in literature, television, and film. The philosopher Voltaire described the Third Servile War as “the only just war in history.” Although this interpretation is not specifically contradicted by classical historians, no historical account mentions that the goal was to end slavery in the Republic.

    #88196
    Germ
    Participant
    #88199
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Thank you for the Expose link, Germ.

    Apparently injecting a lab-produced concoction of crud into your body where it takes over your cells and instructs them to make toxic proteins … can also cause your body to just plain go haywire. Who could have known?

    Pathologists have “never seen this before”. Of course they haven’t. Experimental injections, never before used in humans, previous animal studies [for decades] that used this technology failed.

    Why is any of this a surprise? Any of it? To anyone?? But keep lining up for boosters, all you good little consumers. Darwin, indeed.

    #88200
    a kullervo
    Participant

    It’s not their decision to make. We aren’t children.


    @upstateNYer

    The many millions who, prior to any coercion, gleefully – and blindly – have hopped on the vaxxwagon are children. That’s all that matters.

    #88201
    zerosum
    Participant

    Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by the English naturalist Charles Darwin (1809–1882) and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual’s ability to compete, survive, and reproduce.

    Did you notice that stupidity, sucker, etc are not listed as variations that are NOT eliminated.

    #88203

    26 sept 2021

    Just a thought….
    We, the members of the control group, hereby demand open acknowledgement of our existence to further avoid abuse and discrimination from those who are the non-control participants of this intervention for Covid 19.
    Due to targeting of the members of the control group by such people as the President of the United States and other national and lesser leaders, some medical personnel, employers, colleagues, as well as kith and kin, we are tired of the accusations of recalcitrance and disobedience. Without a control group, this medical trial has no validity.
    If pfizer, moderna, j&j, etal., refuse to acknowledge a control group, we would like an explanation of the nature of whatever phase we are in of this intervention.

    I suspect if pharma reveals there have in fact been control groups who are blinded, people just might get a little angry.
    In the meantime, I remain an unblinded control.

    #88204
    Germ
    Participant

    For UK readers:

    “Strictly Come Dancing’s Tom Fletcher and dance partner Amy Dowden have tested positive for Covid-19, a day after first live show in the series.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58700994

    Yup – she was jabbed!

    Strictly Come Dancing star Amy Dowden reveals she has been trolled online for having Covid vaccine

    What a hoot!

    #88206
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @kullervo: that’s a valid point.

    #88207
    Germ
    Participant
    #88210

    WOW! That was an outstanding work! Absolutely worth the time- I shall read it again and send it on.
    Let’s hope this time Spartacus (and all of us who get it) win. There is no choice.

    #88211
    Germ
    Participant

    Here’s another must watch!

    “The whole story of Covid, and our world affairs right now.
    This is the most important documentary ever made. It is the complete story of how we got here, and the truth behind the media, us, the world leaders, and covid 19.”

    https://rumble.com/vmxjh8-the-whole-story-of-covid-and-our-world-affairs-right-now..html

    #88217
    Germ
    Participant

    And another to watch:

    Dr. Scott Atlas on Vaccine Mandates for Children, Natural Immunity, and Florida’s COVID-19 Surge

    “To me, it’s unconscionable that a society uses its children as shields for adults. Children do not have a significant risk from this illness… Are we [as] a society, a civilization … going to inject our children with an experimental drug that they don’t have a significant benefit from, to shield ourselves?”
    —Dr. Scott Atlas

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/dr-scott-atlas-on-vaccine-mandates-for-children-natural-immunity-and-floridas-covid-19-surge_4013490.html

    #88218
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Damn you to hell. You will not destroy America and the Free World, and you will not have your New World Order.

    Perhaps TPTB may shall fall short of a “New World Order”, likely even, but We the Sheeple have already performed 1/2 the work & they’ve done a bang-up job finishing the implosion…

    We will make certain of that.

    Who is this “We” you speak of? In my 60+ years experience I’ve only encountered mercenaries, morons & a few ill-prepared martyrs.

    Long ago the United Sheeple of ‘Merka surrendered their Natural rights for a chicken-in-every-pot ~ Without FULL restoration of the Democractic Republic under Natural Law it is IMPOSSIBLE to right the USS Ship of Fools…

    COVID-19 = WWIII ~ The masses will NOT be rallied to meet the threat, the “citizenry” is too busy pleasuring their “inner child”, HELL 90% of the current generation wouldn’t make it two paragraphs into Spartacus’ treatise before they pick their “smart” phones back up.

    And this thread will become dead & gone when the next post is loaded to the site.

    EOT

    #88219
    DarkMatter
    Participant
    #88220
    those darned kids
    Participant

    they could also eliminate a lot of covid in hospital wards by treating people at home.

    #88221
    riesterm
    Participant

    Long time reader, minimal commenter. Anyway, I subscribe to Michael Moore’s newish substack just to keep tabs on what he says; I like his docs, but what he wrote in his latest substack (which I read after reading Spartacus) is baffling. Thoughts ?

    https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/mike-answers-all-your-vaccine-fears

    #88224
    chooch
    Participant

    Hmmm, has a Q-like vibe. Might be trying to punk us.

    Spartacus 1st summary point:

    “COVID-19 is a blood and blood vessel disease. SARS-CoV-2 infects the lining of human blood vessels, causing them to leak into the lungs.”

    This where my understanding is currently.

    On one side, we have the virus with all replicating machinery covered with surface spike glycoproteins that have a receptor binding domain that can attach to a cell expressing the ACE2.

    On the other side, we have injection that can create a non replicating version of this virus with spike glycoproteins on the surface which in theory can mimic the receptor binding domain properties of the spike glycoprotein on the virus.

    Endothelial make up our vascular plumbing and can express this ACE2 receptor. This could be bad if the replicating virus where to attach to this receptor.

    What does it mean if the non replicating version were to make it into the vascular system? With no replicating machinery, how does it damage the endothelial cell? Seems like a nothing burger in this case.

    In a live person (not so close to death) blood travels in the heart around 25 cm/s (10 in/s) on average. The diameter of the virus is on the order of 100nm. In my math is right, then virus would be moving 2.5 million body lengths every second. In the moment, I have a hard time believing that the small patch in the spike receptor binding domain has any chance of attaching to an ACE2 receptor in the heart.

    Here are the similarities between the respiratory infection and the mRNA injection. The infection attacks the epithelial cells in the air sacs ultimately gaining access to the nearby capillaries.

    In the intramuscular injection, non replicating versions of the virus are created and somehow gain access to nearby capillaries.

    I am working on putting a floor under my working theory. The links that Raul and Germ have posted over the last few days have helped fill in some gaps that I was wrestling with. And this cancer stuff, holy heck. It’s been fascinating path of discovery overall, even if I come up bagel.

    #88225
    chooch
    Participant

    Body length=virus cell body diameter

    #88226
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Thanks Ilargi; a daunting read which does not leave me hopeful…
    The evil bastards know their prey; fear has been their weapon of choice, wielded with great skill to devastating effect…
    There will be no recovery possible because that very fear has left the vast majority paralyzed, impotent…
    With few exceptions it is a dark day for humans across the planet…
    More to the point: I’d like to know the reason we’re so docile in the face of this obviously manufactured crisis of fear?

    #88227

    My husband’s grand-nephews and nieces are what I would have called “clueless”. They don’t watch the news or read news stuff. They are the children of hippies and they are disconnected. I doubt they do politics. They are unvaccinated- it’s not a thing. As far as I can tell, they have lives apart from “awareness”, and this has protected them from propaganda.
    I have a suspicion that there are so many more of them out there than we know.
    Have faith in these “outside the box” people.

    #88228

    Here’s the hard part. Do not think- hey that was my idea! If your idea was great and someone else is running with it and it is working- that’s good, right? The idea is the thing. The idea needs to be promulgated. Who came up with what is of no consequence. If someone takes the idea and it sticks for whatever reason- yeah!
    It’s the idea that matters!
    Hey! That guy stole something I said from a day or week or month back- if he does it in a way that runs let him run with it.
    It’s the ideas that matter not who came up with them.
    Did someone steal ideas and pretend that they didn’t come from the realm? We’ll deal with that later- if there’s on thing the internet does well, it’s outing power grabbers with bad motives.
    It’s the ideas! It’s the stuff that makes anybody anywhere come to a conclusion that stands.
    The correct response over and over is this: thanks for bringing that up again. You have said it so well. Keep up the good work. Pass it on.

    #88229
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    The Spartacus document goes way beyond my knowledge and experience but what I’ve tried to write about, he does it better.

    Bill Gates is a prime example of the ruling global aristocracy that rules the West. He is public enough for us to agree he is an addicted psychopath who is buying up American farmland. Most will agree that the system that allows this to happen is basically evil. Indeed, his foundation’s pharmaceutical stock has profited from the death of hundreds of thousands of Americans.

    Homo sapiens may well trigger an extinction event this century — An explanation for the lack of other proven sentient beings in this universe. Instead, I am hopeful that a government of the people for the people, like the 1930’s New Deal, will be restored in the USA, and the wealthy criminals jailed.

    #88233
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Instead, I am hopeful that a government of the people for the people, like the 1930’s New Deal, will be restored in the USA, and the wealthy criminals jailed.

    Once again, my words have fallen on deaf ears…

    Hey GI Joe, got a flash for you: Everything that’s happened, is happening & will happen in the USofA is direct result of the “1930’s New Deal”, including enabling all of the “wealthy criminals” to rape, pillage, plunder & murder their way into untold wealth, legally…

    FDR was a psyop for the bankers & military industrial complex.

    #88234
    Archie
    Participant

    As far as I can tell, they have lives apart from “awareness”, and this has protected them from propaganda.

    That’s exactly what the “dead heads” following The Grateful Dead were. Turn on, tune in, drop out. You develop survival skills pretty quickly.

    #88236
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    @veracious-poet

    Yes, I have a dog in this fight. I admit that I am dependent on a functional US federal government. The current one has failed. I need it to work again for the American people in order to survive for the next decade or so. Civilization needs government; bureaucrats, rules and taxes to control the water for agriculture. Without it, if any humans survive on earth, they will be in post-historical tribes fighting for left-over resources. I know of no alternative.

    #88237
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    @VietnamVet

    Isn’t the solution a more decentralized government? I am all in favor of the institution of government, but I prefer more at the state and local level, rather than the Leviathan that Washington has become.

    Yet because of American history, anyone who suggests that the federal government should be weaker and the States should be stronger will be accused of being a Confederate KKK sympathizer — this is another Jedi mind trick of the elite. The last thing they want is for a meaningful choice that varies from state to state.

    #88238
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Vet:

    Yes, I have a dog in this fight. I admit that I am dependent on a functional US federal government. The current one has failed. I need it to work again for the American people in order to survive for the next decade or so. Civilization needs government; bureaucrats, rules and taxes to control the water for agriculture. Without it, if any humans survive on earth, they will be in post-historical tribes fighting for left-over resources. I know of no alternative.

    The good news is that your American Empire Inc. is not going anywhere, hardly a U$ pleb would raise a finger to oppose it.

    The bad news is also that your American Empire Inc. is not going anywhere & now TPTB are getting ready to drop a LOT of “dead weight”…

    Too bad, so sad, you have chose poorly ~ Don’t feel guilty about it, so did 99% of your fellow “citizens”.

    What was once an experiment where the natural rights of ALL humans could have been sacred, the primacy therein protected by a Democratic Republic is dead & gone.

    We now have a corrupt empire run by psychopaths that could render the entire human race extinct at any moment…

    I hope you’re happy in your dependency, good luck making it another decade 😉

    P.S. I think you better check on your dog, I think the wolves may have eaten it…

    #88249
    userzeroid
    Participant

    This paper is an amazing find. This time, with hope, the via sacra/appian way will not be lined with the corpses of the resistance.

    A lot of diverse comments and opinions on this thread.

    MPSK mentions passing on an idea. This is central to the concept of the meme. First (I believe) mentioned or popularised by Dawkins in ‘the selfish gene’ and further expanded in ‘the blind watchmaker’. Irrespective of his anti-religious stance, the meme is as (r)evolutionary as the gene. Yes, it even goes back to the concept of creation, genesis, adam and eve and the snake. Theosophy shows similarities between widely geographically diverse cultures (‘dreamtime’ in aboriginal belief to the vedanta in hinduism, the trinity in catholocism/christianity etc) Who can stop a great idea?

    One thing that springs to my mind about the reliance of empire as discussed here on the forum. Yes, lack of infrastructure is a vulnerability for civilisation. But perhaps the very concept of ‘civilisation’ is itself an oxymoron considering what/how we define it, as it stands right now? Could we do better? I’m sure we all know the answer to that.

    I have found it increasingly difficult to defend the existing system each and every decade that passes. Perhaps by putting our energies into something new that makes the existing system obsolete we stand a greater chance of succeeding.

    Do not forget that ideas that have been proven to work can be ‘borrowed’ and added to a new system. I believe the American consitiution was just such a system when it was first signed and brought into existence. All systems eventually collapse and break down and then the pattern must repeat again and begin anew.

    Tomorrow’s optimism will rival todays despair.

    #88260
    zerosum
    Participant

    “Do not forget that ideas that have been proven to work can be ‘borrowed’ and added to a new system.”

    Hummmm
    Tribal chiefs are still around.

    #88272
    Noirette
    Participant

    @ riesterm

    Michael Moore, MM, is an allowed, approved, mild, milquetoast / revealer / debunker. (I have seen ‘bowling for columbine’ and ‘sicko’ so while not in the US i do have some view..)

    MM stumbled into / or upped the genre ‘doc film’ that ‘reveals’ – ‘explains’ – from a slightly oppositional angle, various world events, societal happenings, etc.

    Such a career can be highly lucrative and socially rewarding. All such figures know there are lines they cannot cross. Attacking the most important myths (foundational, or as have had huge impact, or are believed in by a majority..) lies, obfuscations, is something they won’t do, as they would loose their livelihoods, status, etc. and might even put themselves in danger.

    9/11 is a good example, and Covid is another. Moore crafted a narrative about 9/11 that skirts around various issues but basically states nothing of substance except that KSA is (partly?) to blame (Bush and his ties to the Bin Laden family – all those Saudi terrorists…) which has kind-a been a Democrat mantra ever since.

    Blame KSA! (Women are forced to wear veils..) For what / how accomplished / etc. is never laid out.

    There are two other well-known US figures whom French ‘socialist’ ‘fake contestors’ love to translate and quote, who also obfuscate / deny the importance of / refuse to discuss / etc. 9/11 – Chomsky and Chris Hedges.

    I once went to a talk by Chomsky and the first question was about 9/11. He was obviously expecting it (was about 2 years after) nevertheless he stumbled badly … stuttered, said nothing. Hedges is another story.

    Anyway, 9/11 allows for a lot of blame, hypotheses, argument on dozens of topics, etc. so ‘fake’ posturing can exploit many avenues.

    Covid is more clear-cut, and anyone who is dependent on, subservient to, the PTB, and has long experience with successful propaganda (like MM) cannot attack or deny any of the core/main/central elements of the ‘pandemic’ and its unique, the ONLY, Vax solution.

    He publishes a fanciful construct, supposedly the view of ‘deplorables’ as imagined, summarised by ‘Dems’ and the like, detailing the main arguments ‘against’ the vaccine (which aren’t even the real ones), and then counters them.

    He writes he distrusts the Gvmt. and everyone should. Blacks and others have been mistreated. He closes that with:

    …our racist legacy has manifested itself … Covid-19 has killed 102,000 Black Americans — 20% more than the rate at which white people die. The white supremacists must be loving this. I join with my fellow citizens who are Black in fighting this virus that seeks to kill them first.

    So contra-Gvmt., distrust of Gvmt., is just flipped into Blacks are underdogs, super victims, and we all have to fight the virus! (Which skirts the question of treatment, vax, which groups are more affected, why, — plus, no the virus does not have agency ..)

    I could go on – contra Big Pharma, err no, no this time, because they don’t want to kill users! Contra Trump yes, yes – the Trump vaccine was never his — etc. etc.

    Moore is shilling very clumsily for the Bidadmin position and Big Pharma, he even writes:

    If everyone is vaccinated, this virus is toast.

    Ppl like MM make me angry.

    https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/mike-answers-all-your-vaccine-fears

    #88275
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Noirette: excellent take down of Michael Moore. Kudos!!! I skimmed the first paragraph of the MM post, nearly vomited, stopped reading. Great that you also brought Chomsky and Hedges. Correct on all counts. Thank you!

    #88282
    riesterm
    Participant

    Excellent and thoughtful summation, Noirette. Thank you for taking the time to expand on the MM topic to include Chomsky and Hedges, etc.,.

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