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  • #88290
    Eric Blair
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    Yuck!! So much propaganda on both sides. The Michael Moore piece, the linked Awake Canada video, even to some extent the very interesting Spartacus paper.

    Propaganda mixes the true with the false and in order to sell it, it has usually more truth to it than falsehoods. 2/3 of the Spartacus piece is probably true. I say probably, because there is no way for me to know for sure. At the end, however, s/he speculates on what it all means, turning speculation into fact statements, and it’s here where s/he loses me.

    The Awake Canada video is easy to recognize propaganda. Fast visuals, fast speaking, ominous background music. Conflation of Nazi National Socialism with social democratic socialism, followed by quick succession of pics of Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Bernie and AOC. You get the drift.

    The Michael Moore piece is disappointing coming from him. Way too many blanket statements, and how authoritative! Believe me right now and do what I say!! “No, you don’t have a medical condition that prevents you from getting the vaccine.” How would he know? Has he seen the patient? Is he a doctor? Where the heck does he take the authority to make such sweeping statements? Who is the authority that says get the vaccine? Why is a guy like Moore leaning on that authority? And he’s arguing in all earnestness that because he’s been so anti-government in the past, that gives him credibility now. Kill me now.

    The truth is that none of us KNOW. Not Michael Moore, not Awake Canada, not Spartacus, or anybody else who claims to KNOW. This whole thing hasn’t played out yet although we do know a bit more than a year ago, and until then most of this kind of talk is nothing but speculation. And we may never know the whole truth even when it’s finished playing out, and we will have to live with that, the same way we live with never knowing who killed JFK.

    #88293
    Doly
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    There may well be a couple of valid points in this letter. I’m no medical doctor or virologist, so I really don’t know enough to estimate the validity of many of the points.

    This said, I do know for sure this one is patently untrue: “Vaccines will do more harm than good.” Vaccination in the UK has reduced significantly the number of deaths and hospitalizations, and I happen to have checked this myself when it comes to my local hospital. I doubt Spartacus has bothered doing something as simple as assuming that the Internet is full of lies, and local people are far less likely to tell lies to another local.

    I also know many of the points are contested by medical doctors that have spoken extensively about covid. So they are at the very least suspect.

    Ah, and he contradicts himself by first saying that masks are pure theatre and then admitting that they stop sick people from emitting dangerous droplets. Stopping the danger at the source surely is not nothing, is it?

    #88307
    Intils
    Participant

    Could someone repost the PDF? The link is broken now.

    #88309
    Eric Blair
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    “Ah, and he contradicts himself by first saying that masks are pure theatre and then admitting that they stop sick people from emitting dangerous droplets.”

    What he’s saying is that masks would help if transmission was by droplets. However, Covid is transmitted via aerosols.

    #88313
    Eric Blair
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    @ Doly
    Droplets are if someone coughs, sneezes or spits on you leaving particles suspended in droplets. Aerosol transmission is particles suspended in air. Think of passing another person in the street, both fully masked, yet you can smell the other’s perfume. The perfume particles have made it to your nose, so can the virus (if present). I’ve been able to smell perfume as far as 10 yrds after passing the person – both fully masked. This goes to show that the 6 ft. social distancing also is arbitrary, and neither masks nor social distancing nor plexiglass shields provide true protection for aerosol transmission.

    So the question is why haven’t I caught the virus yet? I believe it’s because there’s not that much viruses out there, which depends for course on your personal situation and exposure.

    #88315
    Eric Blair
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    @ Intils
    Jeses that was fast! Let’s see if this works.

    #88318
    River Pilot
    Participant

    Got this this morning before they deleted it today… Here’s a link to the letter…

    https://tinyurl.com/4wf4atv5

    #88321
    Intils
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    Thank you!

    #88332
    aspnaz
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    Why would the Davos crowd release a germ that could kill them or their children? Doesn’t make sense.

    I suspect this article is yet more fear mongering.

    #88341
    aspnaz
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    I believe the virus to be mostly harmless because in some countries, such as here in Hong Kong, the overall death rate has not changed and I still don’t know of anyone who has died of confirmed covid.

    i agree with the death by doctor theory, but aren’t doctors the fourth highest cause of death, equal to strokes, so not surprising.

    As for the takeover of society, of course this is true, the psychopaths want to remove the rest of us except for a few slaves to service their needs. I just hope this document signifies the emergence of the resistance.

    #88343
    Leahessene
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    wow. ty.
    btw, your pdf link is not available anylonger. can you create a new link for the Pdf? tx

    #88348
    John Day
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    The medical facts are all spot-on, and the presentation is so clear and original in some instances that I am convinced it is drawn from the mind of a person who has a complete internal working model of this, a working expert in the field. The citations support that premise.
    What is known and what is more speculative are clearly demarcated in scientific style.

    It also lines up so well with my own synthesis, including what I “know” and what I surmise, that I don’t think “Spartacus” and I would be able to find anything, about which to argue.

    #88352
    Veracious Poet
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    Dr. Day:

    The medical facts are all spot-on, and the presentation is so clear and original in some instances that I am convinced it is drawn from the mind of a person who has a complete internal working model of this, a working expert in the field. The citations support that premise.

    What is known and what is more speculative are clearly demarcated in scientific style.

    It also lines up so well with my own synthesis, including what I “know” and what I surmise, that I don’t think “Spartacus” and I would be able to find anything, about which to argue.

    It is indeed an incredibly well written description of the crisis facing humanity, no doubt a collective effort (We?), which includes the speculative thought provoking “tranhumanism” part, that I would have excluded for brevity if the authors intended to educate the ignorant into inclusive support.

    Denninger has declared the entire treatise as “tin” due to some of the extended musings, so there’s one potential semi-important ally that was lost due to not sticking to the clearly denoted medical threats & jumping into conspiracy theory language/posturing (eg New World Order).

    I found the righteous indignation & threats to stop the psyop ill-advised from a spiritual perspective, when what is important is to create an informative touchstone that the masses could digest & share…

    Although, not really surprised given the evocative Sparticus title/identity, from my experience it’ll take more than an emotionally charged novelty to motivate even a few of the “masses” to notice that the music is about to stop.

    FWFS

    #88437
    Qatizey
    Participant

    Well, most folks certainly behave like children. THAT points to the crux of the issue…

    While I agree with this letter’s message the fact that a bunch of psychopaths rule is only ONE part of the equation. The true, WHOLE, but “politically inconvenient” and “culturally forbidden” reality is more encompassing. Read “The 2 Married Pink Elephants In The Historical Room –The Holocaustal Covid-19 Coronavirus Madness: A Sociological Perspective  & Historical Assessment Of The Covid “Phenomenon”” by Rolf Hefti at https://www.rolf-hefti.com/covid-19-coronavirus.html

    Without a proper understanding, and full acknowledgment, of the true WHOLE problem and reality, no real constructive LASTING change is possible.

    #88728
    Chtapodi
    Participant

    Elite schmelites… this is not a ‘class’ thing, this is a racial/tribal thing that was laid out in the Protocols over a century ago… you can do the ostrich and ‘hope’ it’s not true but as my old man always said, hope is a wanker’s emotion

    #88729
    Chtapodi
    Participant

    the counter narrative is as controlled by the same people as the narrative… hence the proliferation of ‘nazi this’ and ‘nazi that’ in the ‘opposition’ to the coyid narrative, peddling and enforcing another great historical lie…. and ‘people’ like “spartacus” as a ‘messianic hope’ for the ‘slaves’… the end game is chaos and total distrust of any current institution, which is where we’re almost at; then the role out of their solution to this which is ready packaged in the wings… they don’t care if Gates/Fauci et al. get thrown under the bus in the process; part and parcel. Bolshevism 2.0 is the goal and as long as you’re all out there flapping about ‘elites’ and ‘captitalists’ like good little goy, as they’re directing you too, the goal will be achieved

    #88867

    My server won’t let me update the article. The original PDF file is here: https://theautomaticearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/COVID-19TheSpartacusLetter.pdf

    #89739
    rosewhite
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    Now Elon Musk’s Starlink net around Earth make sense!
    He doesn’t just want to get superrich by proving internet but intends to use the satellites to beam control orders to everyoen who has been VAXXED and now has micro receivers in their brains.
    Georgia Guidestones say 7.3 billion of us have to die and Starlink is one of the means to kill the 7.3 billion who won’t die from COVID infection or VAX problems.

    #89765
    rosewhite
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    Does 5G have any part in Neuralink-Starlink-Nanographene affects on our brains?

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