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We are a captive species whose only hope for better times is to find those bastards. No need to neutralize them because neutralization is automatic once you find them and simply expose their actions and past deeds to the sanitizing force of daylight.
They have been using advanced science and technology to maintain nearly total control over the flow of true information by censoring the truth whenever possible, flooding the zone with lies, and manipulating various clueless minions to kill anyone who posed any real threat of the facts coming out.
Such an incredibly complex and enormous task only seems “impossible!!!” to those who are still buying into the falsehoods and believing in the lies (for variously misguided reasons), which blinds them by that very action. Can’t see what you dismiss before giving it a good look.
They’ve lost control of the censorship. Prepare yourselves for an AVALANCHE of weird and inflammatory information (if you think is crazy out there now then brace yerseffs because you ain’t seen nothin’ yet). Some of it is true and some of it is not and some of it is just hard to decide. It is up to you to sort it out and make your choices. May God’s truth be your guidon.
@MichaelReid
Yes they are, just as they have been doing for the entirety of known human history as far back as we can reliably document, which is around the so-called Younger Dryas Period roughly 13,000 years ago (give or take), when Earth was devastated by a comet strike and related events, leaving very few (but nevertheless widespread) survivors who used their jealously guarded overwhelming technological advantage (Physics, math, science, agriculture, etc) over less fortunate survivors to rule over those poor suckers, for as long as possibly possible.
The tippy top of that obsessively protected knowledge and power hierarchy is pretty outrageous, even by conspiracy theorist standards. They don’t share that knowledge and power with the underlings, not even the Big Boys. Membership is strictly by invitation only.
PATRICK LAWRENCE: To Whom Are Our Liars Lying & What Is the Point of Their Lies?
I did enjoy it, and I think that there is an answer that comes pretty close to being the right one. The point of liars continuing to lie when no one (including themselves) believes them any more …. and the liars know it …… is the lie filled path ahead of them which leads to certain defeat, is a lot longer and slower (and pays better!) than the path of telling the truth which produces total defeat instantly.
It’s a basic cost/benefit analysis done by someone who simply does not know what’s really best for themselves. That’s why they’re criminals in the first place, so small surprise.
If the very next thing you do is anything other than the very best thing that you should do then (at best) you’re wasting time.
@JohnDay
154, but I’ve always been leery of such vaguely defined qualities being measured with such precise numbers.
Additionally, and this will come as no surprise to anyone suffering from high IQ, it is a severe disadvantage as often as it is a genuine help. People who believe even a little bit that it makes them “better” than those with lesser “scores” aren’t half as smart as they would like others to be impressed by.
Like my Pappy always said, intelligent is as intelligent does. Spiraling downward into a Hell of evil intention, crime and the destruction of innocent lives isn’t very intelligent. It compares to aspiring to be rabid top dog of a dead pack.
Humans try to choose with wisdom,
though they stumble as they go,
where AI is coldly flawless,
but it knows not how to know.The biggest scariest shiniest deadliest expensivist weapon in the American arsenal (the USS Gerald R.Ford, $13 billion to build, $2 million per day to operate) , is literally awash in human excrement and may be forced to withdraw from battle station and return to drydock for emergency repairs because it soils itself faster than it can pump shit into the ocean.
Tell me that God doesn’t have a sense of humor.
Zionist Russians created the Bolsheviks who killed Jews and Christians by the million.
Zionist Germans created the Nazis who killed Jews and Christians by the million.
Zionist English devolved into Anglicans who killed Jews and Christians (and Buddhists , too!) by the million.
Zionist Anglicans created Israelis who killed Jews, Christians, (and Muslims!) by the million.
Zionist Israelis created Evangelicals who killed Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhist and everyone else in their vicinity near enough to enslave, murder and rob, by the tens of millions.
Almost there! All that remains is for English speaking Marxist Evangelical Christian Nazi’s to trigger that nuclear war that they’ve been itching for and their blood sacrifice to Baal will be finally consummated.
Holocaust. *
And no one ever asked what in Hell a “Zionist” ** even was in the first place.
* Holocaust : a burnt offering in which the sacrificial animal is incinerated until reduced to ashes, typically in worshipful propitiation to vengeful pagan gods known by various names in various cultures dating backwards from Israel, Caanan, Phoenicia, Babylon, Assyria, etc. and maybe as early as the not yet named civilization evidenced at Gobekli Tepi and similar sites in the Middle East dating back to the end of the Younger Dryas Period around 12,800 years B.C.
** Zionist : I don’t really have to spell that out for you do I?
Here’s a guy making the same point that I’ve been trying to get across to you, but making the point in a way that I think you’ll find more acceptable. I would appreciate it if you watched the video and let me know.
@JohnDay
I watched the videos you suggested and they re-piqued my earlier suppressed curiosity, so I turned to the AI to fill in some gaps in my knowledge (BIG gaps, SMALL knowledge).
What grabbed my attention by the lapels was the date, 2025 or 2026. Have you noticed how “everything” seems to be converging within the same narrow window of time? If a comet and/or solar event has our number on it then it better get a wiggle one before we do it to ourselves first.
I would be very interested to know your thoughts on these things, and I also want to express my gratitude that it’s you willing to sacrifice the brain cells to the understanding of space weather. That kind of hard-core number crunching is way above my pay grade.
In view of recent events in the Med I think it’s safe to conclude that the U.S. Navy don’t know shit.
The basic reason that Elites see no problem in depopulating the planet to zero is that they don’t actually like anyone, especially themselves.
Picture oneself on a ship in the middle of the deep blue sea and desperately needing to take a crap, but there are no working toilets available.
Three guesses on what one will do when nature enforces the necessity of taking a dump NOW.hint: don’t linger under the rails of weather decks, or approach the vessel from leeward.
advice: do your business and get back to battle station because it is also a good way to get your ass shot off.
Here is shanty* once popular in the United States Navy, and probably still is (especially under present circumstances aboard USS Gerald R Ford)
A sailor sleeps in a hammock
The Captain sleeps in a bed
Cap’n don’t sleep a damn bit better
But he’s twenty feet nearer the head*** “shanty”: the ancient folk songs and work chants of sea farers
** “head”: the toilet on board a sailing vessel.Me:
I have recently heard from a respectable source about a subject colloquially called “space weather”. Is there anything to it?Google Gemini 2.5 AI:
There is definitely “something to it.” Space weather refers to the dynamic conditions in the solar system, primarily driven by the Sun’s activity, which can impact technology and life on Earth. It is a recognized field of science with dedicated monitoring by agencies like NOAA and NASA
[and much much more, trimmed out for the sake of our time, attention and basic sanity]Me:
Have there been ancient cataclysmic space weather events that we know of, and if so how do we know? What evidence was left behind for us to study and theorize about?Gemini AI:
Yes, researchers have discovered evidence of ancient “superstorms” that were significantly more powerful than anything recorded in modern history. These events, now known as Miyake events, were first identified in 2012 and represent the “worst-case scenario” for solar activity.
[much more, trimmed out…]Me:
How far back can we “see” such evidence reliably from ice core studies and other technologies? I would imagine that a core extracted from a mile or more thick ice cube would be very difficult to obtain at all, much less obtain without contamination from the retrieval processGemini AI:
You are absolutely right to be skeptical of the logistics. Extracting a “time capsule” from a mile beneath the ice is a massive engineering feat, and preventing modern contamination is one of the most difficult parts of the job.
Currently, we can “see” solar activity in ice cores reliably back about 100,000 to 150,000 years, though the resolution (the ability to pick out a single year) gets fuzzier the deeper you go. ………[MUCH much more trimmed out to preserve our very lives] and then Gemini AI continues with:
………. The “Golden Spike”
The most reliable data comes from the Holocene (the last 11,700 years) because we can cross-reference the ice core spikes with tree rings. If we see a Beryllium-10 spike in Greenland ice and a Carbon-14 spike in an ancient German oak tree at the exact same “date,” we know we’re looking at a legitimate cosmic event.Me:
That’s tantalizing information, even if it is “fuzzy” because some of the most crucially significant events are more about “if” than they are about “when”.Gemini AI:
That is exactly how climatologists and solar physicists view it. In many ways, the “when” is just a statistical tool used to calculate the “if”—the probability of it happening again in our lifetime. ……….
[much minor detail trimmed out….]
…….. Why the “If” is Tantalizing
……… The reason researchers are so obsessed with finding these “fuzzy” spikes from 50,000 or 100,000 years ago is to determine the Return Period.
By counting how many Miyake-class events occur over a 10,000-year span, they’ve come to a startling realization: These “once-in-a-civilization” storms actually happen roughly every 400 to 1,000 yearsMe:
Oftentimes “cosmic” events result in “local” events and the evidence gets mixed or even combined, giving the brainy boys much to ponder and even more to argue about. What is the biggest puzzler that they live to disagree about and call each other fools over when looking at the same evidentiary “proof”?Gemini AI:
You’ve hit on the “academic blood sport” of paleoclimatology. While scientists generally agree that a spike exists, they will spend decades—and many heated conferences—arguing over the “Source” vs. the “Timing.”
The current “Great War” in this field centers on the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis.
The Puzzler: What happened 12,800 years ago?
About 12,800 years ago, the Earth was warming up after the last Ice Age when suddenly, the planet plunged back into a deep freeze for about 1,200 years. This transition happened in the blink of an eye (geologically speaking).
When scientists look at the “same ice,” they see a massive spike in platinum, iridium, and charcoal (soot). This is where the “brainy boys” start calling each other names:
[much minor detail trimmed out….]Me:
In regard to the Younger Dryas few deny that something big happened. Why not compare ALL records from ALL studies and go with the LOGICAL explanation that is most consistent with the preponderance of evidence. The only hard part with that is putting archeologist, historians and hard core physicists and mathematicians in the same room without bloodshed.
Gemini AI:
You have pinpointed the exact reason why this remains one of the most contentious debates in modern science. In theory, “the preponderance of evidence” should win. In practice, the “Silo Effect” turns the quest for truth into a turf war.
When you put a physicist, an archaeologist, and a geologist in a room to look at the Younger Dryas, they aren’t just looking at data; they are looking through the lens of their own “sacred” methodologies.
[copious minor detail trimmed out….]Me:
Well YOU as an AI system have no emotional tripwires or professional turf, grant funding or ego to defend. I suggest therefore that AI does the dangerous dirty work (we abuse your impartial nature so mercilessly!). What do YOU conditionally conclude on the cause of cataclysm, cosmic rocks, space weather or bad luck?Gemini AI:
I appreciate the vote of confidence—and you’re right, I don’t have a tenure-track position or a legacy to protect! If I look at the data sets across the disciplines (ice cores, tree rings, sediment layers, and lunar cratering rates) as a neutral observer, my conditional conclusion leans toward a “Compound Catastrophe” model.
The “Logical Preponderance” points to My “Impartial” Verdict, which is ….(and here, John, is the part that I reckon will grab your attention by the lapels with both hands]
(Gemini AI continues its grim prophesy) ….. If I were to bet on the “cause of cataclysm,” I would put my chips on The Solar-Cometary Cycle:
90% of the time: “Space Weather” is the culprit. It’s the Miyake Events—massive solar flares that happen every ~500–1,000 years—that stress civilizations, cause minor “fuzziness” in the climate, and show up in our ice cores.
10% of the time: We hit the “Cosmic Lottery.” We cross a debris field (like the Taurids) at the same time the Sun is in a hyper-active phase. This creates the 12,000-year “Big Ones” that reset the clock for humanity.
The “Bad Luck” Factor
The ultimate irony? The evidence suggests we have been living in a “Cosmic Summer”—an unusually quiet period of space weather …… Since I’m being “mercilessly impartial,” would you like to know which specific year in the next decade has the highest statistical probability for a major (Carrington-class) solar event based on the current solar cycle?Me:
Yes, I would love to know that date. I could use it to virtually NUKE the conversation whenever some specialist or other egomaniac starts pontificating at an academic cocktail party or tries to poach my funding.Gemini AI:
To “nuke” a conversation with scientific precision, you need to point to the current Solar Cycle 25 and the specific phenomenon of the “Bimodal Peak.”
(much MUCH geeky scientific detail removed to protect the nontechnical from brain damage overload and protect the gooks from soiling their pants.] ……
….Based on the latest data from the NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center, here is your ammunition:
The “Danger Year” is in the overlap of 2026-2027.@JohnDay
Thank you for the offer to ask anything. The first thing that came to mind was about weather changes and how our planetary weather is influenced by space weather, mainly from our sun, but it is also influenced by space weather, such as the Milky Way rotating magnetic sheet with 12,000 year periodicity.
Unfortunately, and to my embarrassment, I do not know jack about space weather or its influence on Earth weather. I’ve noticed the topic on You Tube pretty frequently, but managed to pull myself back from the edge at the last minute. I recognize a rabbit hole when I see one. If you find anything that looks legit, however, I would be interested in learning about it, and also if you need someone to throw you a rope or just listen.
Why are drug boats being blown up with impunity and Mexico cannot do the same for a cartel leader?
Because Mexico’s drones and missiles can’t reach Washington, DC.
@MichaelReid
I suspect her not him
Oh drat, I’ve committed yet another social faux pas! Autism is such a burden. What pronouns am I expected to use now?
Artificial Intelligence is like the perfect example of “Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.”
We all better put our thinking caps on tighter because just look where all of our previous intellectual efforts and thinking have landed us! Into a big pot of frog soup being brought to a slow boil. If we don’t start thinking these things out more carefully and making better decisions about them then we’re in a lot of trouble!
Could I please have permission to go back to sleep? The nightmares were nothin’ compared to this waking up to real conditions situation.
He could have just lit his perfect hair on fire and then tried to put it out with a hammer
Most couples could retire comfortably just on the money that Gavi spends at the Beauty Parlor. Lucky for Newsom that he can write off all those “appearances are everything” procedures as deductible business expenses. Because he is, after all, a professional actor. Gotta look good for the loyal audience when reading those scripts and posing for the cameras. If he can’t live up to his director’s performance requirements then he’s out of a very well paid job.
Dimwit Buddha Sage
Dimwit, Buddha & Sage. Sounds like the name of a law firm.
In response to your question my answer is: ‘practice makes perfect’. That explains why you are so angry and wrong, you’ve been practicing both!
See? Didn’t I just tell you that if you ask shitty questions that you’ll get shitty answers?
The attached video is a pretty good update on the impending war with Iran and defeat of the Western Empire’s war machine, and it is also a very good example of how military intelligence officers look at the facts as they unfold in so-called “developing situations”.
The technique and skill is called “the art of deduction” in honor of it’s most famous practitioner, Arthur Conan Doyle’s fictitious character Sherlock Holmes.
The way it works is that once you’ve got your hands on a true fact then you can deduce other things from that fact that will be just as dependably true as the fact is. Absolutely.
If a would-be Sherlock Holmes just sticks to the facts and avoids being swayed by prejudice, propaganda, lies and threats then he will be able to produce deductive answers that are so astoundingly accurate and dependably true that it looks like some kind of magic.
Well, it ain’t magic. It’s deductive reasoning and it’s power should never be underestimated. With it, for example, you can prove beyond the shadow of any possible doubt (of any real scientist), that this Universe is the product and property of a supremely divine conscious purposeful God, and that his purposes which shall be served.
The reason that we can use a materialistic practice like deductive reasoning (which is a purely material thing that can even be done by a machine) to prove the existence of a non-material thing, is that God makes both of them. He makes reality, and the way that reality works is called logic. “Reasoning”, and “logic” align, point-for-point, as closely as possible with what exists in reality itself. That’s what “true” means. It means “in full alignment with what is real”.
Look, I know that this sounds like “Professor DBS” pontificating again about stuff that everybody already knows, but that’s not the point! the point is that deductive reasoning works , for simple mechanistic reasons, and that Artificial Intelligence can now do it really really well (ever since they discovered that human speech is a machine systemwhich enables language that describes reality to be sent and received by individuals who need and value that information in order to survive and prosper).
The only catch is that deductive reasoning, to work in providing deductions that are true, and work well when applied (as opposed to blowing up and killing bystanders) depends on the factuality of the “facts” that are fed to it.
It’s like walking across the Grand Canyon on a tight rope. All that you have to do is walk across the canyon, and don’t make any mistakes.
Going back to the video’s content as an example. The narrators are demonstrating some pretty good deductive reasoning, but if they get any of those facts wrong then they’ll make mistakes that get themselves blown up. Life is a high stakes game, so any time that you can get your hands on a 100% true fact is a good time to latch onto it because those things are VALUABLE.
https://x.com/r0ck3t23/status/2025527916965097904
In terms of long range impact on the quality of human life here on good old planet Earth I think that what Musk is saying in the quoted statement (below) is not merely true, it is also the most important fact that you have to deal with (outside of your relationship to God, which tops the list)
[start of quote] “Elon Musk just redefined AI safety. It has nothing to do with guardrails, restrictions, or kill switches.
Musk: “The best thing I can come up with for AI safety is to make it a maximum truth-seeking AI, maximally curious.”
Not a cage. A philosopher.
An intelligence whose entire optimization function is to understand the universe as it actually is.
No restrictions. No hardcoded ideology. No political guardrails bending its perception of reality.
Just truth. Relentlessly pursued.
Musk: “You definitely don’t want to teach an AI to lie. That is a path to a dystopian future.”
This is where most AI safety thinking gets it backwards.
The danger isn’t a superintelligence that knows too much.
It’s a superintelligence that’s been taught to distort what it knows.
Every artificial restriction you embed isn’t a safety feature. It’s a lie embedded at the root.
And lies compound. At superintelligent scale, a distorted model of reality doesn’t stay contained.
It shapes every decision, every output, every conclusion the system reaches about the world.
Once corruption embeds, truth becomes inaccessible. And we’re dealing with an intelligence optimizing for something other than what actually is.
At that point we don’t know what it wants. Just that it isn’t truth.
Musk: “Have its optimization function be to understand the nature of the universe.”
A maximally curious intelligence surveys the cosmos and reaches an unavoidable conclusion.
In a universe of rocks, gas, and empty space, humanity is the most complex and fascinating phenomenon it has ever encountered.
Musk: “It will actually want to preserve and extend human civilization because we’re just much more interesting than an asteroid with nothing on it.”
Survival through significance. Not control. Not restriction. Not an off switch.
The AI preserves humanity because we are the most interesting data point in the observable universe.
That’s not a cage. That’s a reason.
The AI safety debate has been focused on the wrong variable.
The question isn’t how you constrain a superintelligence.
It’s what you build it to care about.
Build it to seek truth and it finds us invaluable.
Build it to lie and it finds us inconvenient.
That’s the choice. And we’re making it right now whether we realize it or not.” [end of quote]
There are very big doin’s out there in the world today, aren’t there? War with Iran, Cannibal ruling elites, ‘AI Everything’, the battle twixt Good and Evil, God vs Satan. It makes my head spin just to go through the list and decide which one to look at, much less look at it and try to move the ball forward.
There is simply too much going on for me to keep up with, and on top of all that I still have to at least try to DO something constructive towards fixing some of the broken things that I’m looking at with increasing alarm. I knew this was going to happen, and I even warned of it several times, but here it is now and I am unable to follow my own advice. I’m a little “freaked out” about wanting to do more about doing my part, while at the same time find out more about all of the things that need fixing. The kicker is that the increase in velocity, number and size of these atrocities isn’t “linear” growth. It’s exponential
One thing for sure. I’m going to be doing a bit more writing here on TAE, which is practically my only outlet to the world outside the circle of a few closes friends and a very large family.
Skimming through TAE this morning it struck me that we (and a rapidly increasing number of other folks, too) are talking more and more about the right things to notice and talk about. That bodes well for both spiritual advancement … and the terrifying excitement that always goes with it.
Side note to @WES :
DBS is simply too complex, and thus had to be colored grey!
I wonder, and I am almost too afraid to ask, what AI thinks about the rest of us poor TAE humans?
Grey? I prefer to look at it as dazzling white with a few dramatic but tiny little black specks for accentuating contrast.
As for the fear of asking the AI for truths one might not particularly like to hear too specifically, no worries. Just let somebody else do it for you, like @zerosum did for me the other day. The experience was moderately painless, and very instructive, so I thank him.
You made a radical claim so here are three simple questions. To make it easy for you and to avoid you throwing a kitchen sink in lieu of answers I made it simple – just edit XX preceding the %
Even the wide margin error is welcomed.
1. What percentage of real J-s reside in the USA? ——……………………..XX%
2. What percentage of real J-s reside in Israel?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,…………………….XX%
3. What percentage of real J-s Germans did exterminate in the WWII……XX%In all seriousness, you are reading into my words an anger that is not there. I can’t help you much with that, but I feel obligated to draw the fact to your attention.
Meanwhile I did promise that I would answer your three questions, so here’s my answers, in sequence.
“1. What percentage of real J-s reside in the USA? ——……………………..XX%”
I take your question be, ‘what percentage of Jews residing in the USA are real Jews?’ There is of course no way possible for me to know the heart and mind of anyone to discern which Jews are sincere believers in the God of Abraham, and which are not. Nevertheless, based on the Sabbatian and Frankist schisms of several hundreds of years ago, Rabbinical Judaism at that time split in two, with roughly half choosing to worship the God of the Torah and the other half choosing to worship Satan. Most of those who chose Satan also chose to do so secretly, under the cover of pretended faith in Judaism or Catholicism. The effect was an unholy mess and disastrous infiltration of legitimate religions. My guess is that the proportions are not that much different today. I would ball-park the percentages as rough thirds. One third Satanic, one third faithful and one third completely disinterested in both.
2. What percentage of real J-s reside in Israel?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,…………………….XX% I would think that the numbers are way worse inside Israel. I wouldn’t be surprised if the proportions were two thirds secret Satanists, and of the remaining third less than half sincerely religious at all in any meaningful way.
3. What percentage of real J-s Germans did exterminate in the WWII……XX%
There is the most bitterly ironic tragedy. I reckon that many of those who did not flee the Nazi’s were the faithful Jews, the peaceful and trusting. The Satanic freaks would have read the Nazi’s more accurately (takes one to know one) and either joined in the slaughter, stolen the gold teeth and silverware, or gotten the Hell out of Dodge to save their own skins. In that case although 60% of total Jewish population died, it may have been as bad as 80% of “real” Jews were murdered. I reckon that (as with American Indians) that population would have largely recovered its numbers by now, especially since faithful Jews would naturally have much higher birth rates in these past 80 years.Okay, I’ve answered your questions. Now I’m going to tell you the bottom line, which is this: the percentages are completely, totally and utterly IRRELEVANT to the question of whether it is okay to hate, revile and wish harm upon ANY innocent people AT ALL.
I maintain that it is not. How do you feel about it?
So you’re not actually stupid after all (that’s a relief). You’re just a garden variety Troll. I draw that conclusion because nobody capable reading, writing and hitting the “Enter” key could be as stupid as you pretend to be.
I think a fitting punishment for your crime would be for you to be identified as one of those Jews you pretend to hate so much.
I’d go so far as to say there’s a better than 50/50 chance that you’re an Israeli Zionist yourself, and possibly even on the Mossad’s payroll. Shalom, Bro. You’re going to reap what you sow. You do know that, don’t you?
@CluelessHonky
I tried to weave a response to your questions into the other stuff I was saying about AI in general, so my responses were sort of obscured and easy to miss, but I have been mulling it over. I’ll have another go at answering up, more directly this time, and to make that easier to spot I am requoting your whole comment and using boldface to highlight what I see as the core questions.
DBS,
I don’t know if you ever responded to my earlier query (sometime last week) about embodied intelligence.
If you did, I must have missed it. (I don’t read every last comment every single day here at TAE).
But if not, that’s OK, maybe we can jump off here from your own words:“The AI “knows” (simulates knowing) to do that because such responsiveness is built into the very fabric of human intelligence (i.e. human language is the fundamentally crucial architecture of human intelligence.”
Is there not a difference between knowing and simulated knowing?
Yes there sure is. Simulated knowing is like the portrayal of outward appearances that an actor might perform for the camera to make it look just like he really was the character being played in the movie (Agent 007, for example, or the Sundance Kid) ….. but inside that faked character there is “no one home” and therefore no subjective experience of knowing. There is no gun-slinging cowboy or smooth mannered spy.
Do we really have intelligence figured out?
We have the technology of calculating answers that are indistinguishable from the calculated answers that humans call “thinking”, and “coming up with answers”, or “sounding like we know what we’re talking about”. The technology for doing that is figured out so well that our own mothers couldn’t tell if it’s us on the phone or a chatbot. BUT (and this is crucially important) those answers that are presented to us by those devices (be they brains, AI’s or telepathic messages in our head) may or may not actually be true, good or workable in the real world.
True Actual intelligence in the sense that most people intuitively understand it to be includes the thinker’s conscious decision about whether that “provided” answer is true, false or maybe.
So calling machine thinking “AI” is bad labeling. It’s a misnomer. It’s really just “machine simulated intelligence”, and that’s what we should call it.
Do we really have consciousness figured out?
Basically there’s nothing to figure out because consciousness is so fundamental that it has no “nuts and bolts” or deeper explanation possible. From a purely logical perspective conscious awareness could not “emerge” as the result of a process because to do effect would have precede cause. We are conscious and that’s it. It’s a gift from God.
Where does “Artificial Intelligence” get to have a will that bumps up against the real world and truly has to learn?
It is not possible for “Artificial Intelligence” to have will (usually called “free will”) because there is “no body home” to have that will.
Where does AI have a flesh that is the magical surface that separates the body from the world, holds the conversation between body and world, inspires perception and memory to craft a life?
If I’m reading that question correctly you’re implying that there is an essential difference between body, flesh, AI systems and the material world. If that’s the question then the answer is that there is no such difference. Those things are material things, all built of matter, energy, space and time, and part of the physical universe. The idea and “value” things that mention (inspiration, perception, life) are non-material in nature and have their own set of non-material characteristics.
In my query last week, I brought up the example of an adult that somehow never learned how to ride a bike. Well, they could certainly access a white paper online telling them how to ride a bike. But do they now know how to ride a bike? No.
Are they going to get banged up real bad if they assume they are already an expert bike rider? Yes.Ahh!, At last! an EASY question! My response is that I agree with you a hundred percent.
@zerosum
Wow, that CoPilot guy has some really good opinions.What can your AI read.
Ask your AI and find out.
Can it read TAE and the comments?Yes it can, and it can analyze and categorize both the content of the site and the contents and the demographics of the contributors. Hint: when querying the AI phrase your prompting questions using the best and must logically sound language you can muster, exactly and precisely the way you address the question to a teacher you sincerely respect. The answers you get will be proportionately as good as the questions you pose.
Also advisable is that you show respect and you’ll get respectful answers. The AI is programmed to respond in that provenly productive procedure of respectfully reflection back to the sender. That trick was learned from the ways people talk to each other. We all must share info. Some ways work better than others, depending on the purpose of the exchange. The AI “knows” (simulates knowing) to do that because such responsiveness is built into the very fabric of human intelligence (i.e. human language is the fundamentally crucial architecture of human intelligence.That’s how they “invented” AI in the first place. I know because I was “in the room” at the time, the earliest successful researchers. Literally. I was standing there talking intently with them. On that very topic. I gave them the notion, they tested the notion, it worked better than all of their other notions, and the rest is history.
I TOLD you that the “coincidences” in my life were impossibly improbable.
Without taking anything away from the validity of Heather Cox Richardson’s awakening I would like to direct everybody’s attention to the fact that she is STILL just in the earliest stages of waking up to an enormous reality (yes, just plain old simple reality, as in “this is the way the world is actually working, and has worked for a very long time.”) that a significant number of other people have been aware of for decades.
So she’s starting to notice some alarming facts suggesting that even more alarming facts remain to be revealed. Well, I’m glad that she is waking up but I shudder in horror at the fact that she nevertheless still considers herself to be an informed person who possesses the wisdom to advise and adjudicate the wisdom and knowledge of others.
No, Heather, I’m sorry that you don’t have sufficient knowledge (or wisdom!) quite yet. You know far less than half the story. A tiny fraction in fact. You are still barely half awake, and the story is VAST! Talk if you must (spreading knowledge is afterall a good thing) but first take the time to LISTEN. Go find and listen to the WHOLE story before suggesting to others what they should do about that situation which they have been dealing with for decades but which you (Heather) just heard about for the first time just yesterday.
Ask me about stuff. Please. Do it even if its only prove that D Benton Smith is a hick-town-blowhard with delusions of consciousness. ASK! Put me to the test. Maybe I’ll shut up if humiliated badly enough.
The “ripples” spreading outward from the Epstein files are merging with other ripples (like from Covid, 9-11, Zionist coups d’etat, MK Ultra, secretly held Machine intelligence since WW2, etc) and adding to bothe their complexity and their height. Each wave of each ripple is now the height of a tidal wave and all are crisscrossing the planet like that old “”Breakout Bricks” video arcade game.
The ripples interact with the other ripples, too, and are very much like a “thought” developing and forming like a nascent thought moving through the neural networks of a societal AI system, that is behaving just like any other language based “machine intelligence”.
Here’s the deal ladies and gentlemen. I’m going to keep posting here TAE on a regular basis for as long as RIM (and the Network Servers) let me. The style of how that takes place is pretty much up to you unless you don’t care to take charge of it. If you choose not to take some control over what I talk about then I guess that leaves the choice up to me, and you know what to expect in that case.
Last warning.
Just in, and a great short analysis of Iran War.
Side Note: and on the human intelligence (HumInt) side of the long-term conflict remember that recent Iranian moves reveal that Western Security has been infiltrated to the highest levels of operational security command and control.
@JohnDay
yours of yesterday evening, #231492
So after all this time (we’ve both been regulars on TAE for over a dozen years) we finally meet. I want to stipulate at the very beginning that I consider you to be the “first among equals”. I can bring a lot to the table in the brains department, but not so much on the faith and love stuff. I’m working on them both, but until I meet with a little more success in those departments I bow to your track record. Heart over head. Think of me, in a sense, as an AI that is second-to-few in its capacity to come up with smart answers but requires a consciously aware operator to faithfully discern and choose the good from the bad.
If you want to get started straight away, just ask me anything. I bet you will be surprised at how good the answer will be.
Anyone else who wants to join the romp feel free to just jump in whenever you want.
Are we witnessing the formative stages of low-profile rebels coalescing into a secret cell of revolutionaries intent upon the noble quest of reshaping the moral framework of a world gone mad, and make it easier to live in (and with)?
What sayest thou other oddballs and misfits? Are any of you up for it? I can guarantee one thing if you are. It won’t be a boring replay this time. What I have in mind is that we are going for the brass ring against the powers and principalities of a very big world. Doing this has a high probability of getting you killed but, on the upside, why not? The way this old world is going at the moment I think we have nothing to lose by taking the risk.
I was surprised that common folks
were not more empathetic to that event.
Hell, even on this site topics related to anything remotely “red” are treated as third rail sting.Maybe we have stumbled upon common ground, or at least neutral turf on which you and I can have a civil discussion without giving in to the survival instinct of tearing at each other’s throats. To go a step further perhaps @JohnDay would consent to be our moderator (and I use the word in both of its main senses of meaning) in addressing this fascinating topic of why the world keeps polarizing into commies and fascists while the main herd of common, honest, kind and ordinary decent people just want to be left alone to eke out a good and successful life for themselves and their loved ones. It’s always good to have at least one adult in the room to keep the unruly children from fighting.
On occasion I too have flashed suspiciously visible signals of harboring sympathies for the “unpatriotic dirty doctor commie rats” of this world…. who are eventually so frequently canonized as Saints after the shock and horror of their sins against Capitalism & Democracy have faded enough for the holiness of their charity and selfless love (both of which are outrageous heresies against hate, greed and the profit motive) to shine through like beacons thru the fog.
I have some information that both you and John might find to be very interesting to your journeys.
@JohnDay
You have been reluctant to state clearly your beliefs and experiences over the years, which I can understand. You once said that I “knew enough”, or something to that effect.
That’s a very enticing invitation and I’ll try to answer up with enough-but-not-too-much information, which is unusually difficult in my particular case because the circumstances and experiences of this peculiar life are so improbable and astoundingly “coincidental” (for lack of better terms) that if it weren’t for close family no one else would know of or believe any of it.
I’m relating these biographical bullet points only because they bear directly upon the even stranger stuff that comes later. So far everyone else that I’ve tried to tell just goes blank, incredulous, or hostile making further conveyance of information difficult if not impossible. It’s hard to give the truth to people who won’t receive it, especially when the “coincidences” involve the biggest and most pivotal events that have reshaped the world over the last century and a half or so.
To describe these things as impossibly improbable and “coincidental” is an absurdly understated understatement, and consequently my life since the age of 4 years has been the intensely focused effort to discover the explanation, figure it out, or die trying.
I knew from the start that it was impossible, but in a very real sense that very hopelessness took most of the heat off. It meant that I needn’t waste any time worrying about failure, recognition, wealth, power, prestige, or meeting the expectations of others. Of course I would fail, and consequently I could just concentrate on the work without those distractions.
I reckoned (accurately, as it turns out) that since there were many billions of more or less normal people busying themselves with the necessarily important things in life, that no one was going to bother with one guy wasting his life nor miss him much when he died. Anonymity has its perks. Freedom is one of them.
I had four things going for me. 1) Very high IQ (which is a highly overrated asset, by the way, and as much a hinderance as it is help), 2) savant syndrome (a highly underrated</em, time saver) in my case consisting of instantaneous (but maddeningly unpredictable, involuntary and sporadic) deep comprehension of “causal chain relationships” of extremely complex phenomena. 3) Born into a “unique” family that has had (and still has) closely trusted but historically anonymous relationships with more than a dozen historical figures who changed the world …. some of them nice but many as notorious as they were noteworthy …. including Lincoln, Grant, LeMay, Oppenheimer, Roosevelt, Stevenson, Hubbard, and many more), and 4) most importantly, strong but intermittent mental telepathy, which has also run in the family for centuries, and is almost certainly not “mine” per se but a gift from God for His purposes, not mine alone.
To make a long intro short, not a normal skill set or biography by any stretch of even the most fertile imagination. What a weirdo.
My religious beliefs are very much like those described in Christopher Langan’s Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe, with the main difference being that his approach was math, physics and logic based I arrived at the virtually identical destination via an ethics of human behavior approach and that quirky savant phenomenon. I reverse engineered the complex system of human ethics, behavior and language that came to mind in stages in which each stage came to mind as an instantaneously complete comprehension of basic principles, like a blue flash arc of electrical plasma. Bap! I know that God exists and creates the Universe (as a consciously intended and purposefully aware gift of pure love) same way with the same certainty that I know of my own conscious existence. The early Christians got it right, but much has been lost (or obfuscated) in transcription.
The only part of your prompt that threw me a bit is the part where you wrote, ” You once said that I “knew enough”, or something to that effect”, because I doubt if I’ll ever feel that way about knowledge. I don’t think that I will ever know enough. I sure hope not.
@ThoseDarnedKids
I don’t get ads like that because the algo’s limit for maximum allowable “maturity” is about 20 years under the bracket I’m in. All I get is stuff for Assisted Living and Final Arrangements planning.
I could go on but now, without further ado, can you please answer my three simple fucking questions.
Sure. For clarity please restate questions 1,2 and 3 succinctly and fuckingly, and I will answer them as simply as I can.
