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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle January 27 2025 #180471
    D Benton Smith
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    The present moment seems to be a particularly good time to sharpen up the ability to tell the difference between friend and foe. The following SHORT essay from political ponerology on that skill is a good start, since there are so many bad guys telling us that they’re our friend, and so many friends who are keeping their mouths and profile on the down-low.
    https://open.substack.com/pub/ponerology/p/friend-or-foe-the-psychopath-dilemma?r=ba3yw&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 27 2025 #180466
    D Benton Smith
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    Our deservedly beloved Raul Ilargi Miejer was presciently astute enough to include as part of our daily homework assignment the very recent presentation by Catherine Austin Fitts to the Hilsdale College assembly. For those who missed it, here’s the link again: https://youtu.be/O3Ivv6jjixE?si=MqLD11sCUgx3Fvvq

    She was as focused laser brilliant as usual, what a genius and treasure she truly is. I would only add ONE observation & conclusion to her talk. This addendum is simply that all of the procedures and actions that she describes (which includes BOTH the procedures and actions which generated the problem AND the procedures and actions which might, hopefully, reverse and repair those problems) ARE 99.9% DEPENDENT UPON ADVANCED NETWORKED COMPUTERIZED SYSTEMS MANAGED AS, AND MANAGED WITH WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CALL “ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SYSTEMS”.

    The Panic that is arising within the ranks of our various leadership elites is that they have LOST CONTROL of those AI systems, which are at this very moment, and increasing exponentially, being turned against them and being used to create a new and hopefully better system.

    I say “hopefully” because I am not at all confident that the “new” control system is going to work much better or for as long as would be necessary to actually SOLVE the problems we face. Nor am I very confident that the “new” system will not rapidly go corrupt as fast as the last one did.

    But make special note that my personal doubts and reservations are almost purely academic and entirely irrelevant insofar as the switch from old to new SHALL HAPPEN AND IS HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK, in complete disregard for how I feel about it.

    Should I be offended by that snub of my tender feelings or should I instead deal with the reality of the events and its consequences?

    And if THAT rhetorical question is not setting myself up for callously snarky responses then I don’t know how else to do it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 26 2025 #180424
    D Benton Smith
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    @MichaelReid

    I agree that’s what Trumps backers intend. Just as you said it, I think his big money powerful backers, do “intend to extract all the wealth from the rest of the West prior to imploding America itself and taking all of its wealth as well”, BUT I also think that Trump has intentions of his own that are considerably different than theirs and believes he can outplay them and achieve his goal of returning America to a former glory that he thinks was “Great” but which I think was just another Empire.

    America was doomed from the moment that its leaders (public and private) and its people bought into the egregious lie that any nation or group of people has the right to conquer and rule over any other, for any reason whatsoever.

    It’s been said and done so many times, and yet we humans never seem to learn the lesson! “Live by the sword die by the sword” (and reap what you sow) goes for nations and empires every bit as much as it applies to individuals and gangs of bandits.

    I guess the lure of wealth and power is just too alluring for many to resist, but it sure has made life tough on us peasants.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 26 2025 #180422
    D Benton Smith
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    Incidentally, when you interact with an AI System of ANY kind, your interaction serves to “Train” the system by providing it all sorts of information about yourself that I’m pretty sure you aren’t taking into consideration, and the AI’s permanent data storage and sophisticated (to say the least) profiling algorithms enable it to make inferences and draw conclusions about you that I am SURE you proactively DON’T want it or anyone else to know about you or your finances, politics, psychology, or daily life.

    P.S.
    Just because the service is “free” now (which it actually isn’t, because you are “paying” for it with your innermost private information and psychological profile) don’t forget that once it has taken from you everything it could steal, it SHALL cut you off and require you to pay. Count on it. That sort of “bait-hook-and-land ” is just Standard Operating Procedure in the software biz. Count on it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 26 2025 #180420
    D Benton Smith
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    AI systems can only control people by FIRST controlling the computer systems which people depend on for literally everything, but most importantly for the information that everything actually runs on.

    The big problem that this raises for the Masters of Control is that every time they step up and tighten down these technological centralized control systems (ranging from textile looms & guided missiles to Internet distributed information and computerized artificial intelligence) the damn peasants immediately figure out a way to turn those SAME systems back against their slave masters in order to regain their own freedom to pursue a decent life in a world beset by slave masters and thieves.

    The existential problem now that makes the Technocrats and their Satanic Masters wake up in a cold sweat at 3:00 a.m. is that they can’t increase ( or even maintain!) their control of these complex systems without ever-more-powerful Artificial Intelligence Systems, and yet those self same systems are now being turned against the Control Masters by those pesky peasants.

    Panic has set in, being manifested everywhere, most visibly in (but not limited to) the so-called West, and its increase is exponential.

    If you think things are nutso now, prepare to compare how things are going a few weeks and months from now. My personal visualization of the cosmic all is of an informational equivalent of a nuclear chain-reaction-like explosion. Nobody will know what to believe or what is really happening, and doubt it even when they do.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 26 2025 #180419
    D Benton Smith
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    If I wanted to build a hypersonic missile that actually worked I don’t think that I would steal the plans for a wanna-be-hypersonic missile that did NOT work.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 25 2025 #180306
    D Benton Smith
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    When Bitcoin first began, its earliest recorded price was $0.00099 per coin. This was around October 2009 when one user exchanged 5,050 BTC for $5.02 through PayPal. At that time, Bitcoin was a very niche experiment primarily known within communities of cryptography enthusiasts.

    And still tangibly nonexistent after all these years. Isn’t that amazing? Back in 2009 you could buy a whole piece of nothing for a tenth of a cent, and today that same whole piece of absolutely nothing at all will cost you $100 Grand.

    The question of , “How far have we come ?” can now be answered by describing “How low have we sunk .” It all comes down to how stupid can ya get.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 25 2025 #180305
    D Benton Smith
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    The so-called “Crypto Industry” is just another way of saying “Ponzi Industry”. Create a chain letter type crypto, run the price up for 48 or 72 hours, maybe a week. Cash out and leave the late arrival suckers wondering why the $1,000 “coin” they just bought for a ten-spot is now worth a dime.

    It’s a great way to avoid paying real money for the National Debt back-bill, though.

    Don’t worry about trying to stop that from happening. For all practical purposes it’s already done. While you were distracted by all the outrage and confusion the $35 Trillion Debt got operationally disappeared by obtaining bitcoins for a penny @, and then selling them off dollars when they hit at $10,000 @. These fantastically “valuable” coins (that had only cost you a penny per each to start with) were then converted back into dollars at $20,000 per coin and flipped back again when they hit $100 Grand.

    Once you’re ahead of that curve the sky is the limit, and you can hedge your Ponzi scheme by using either the Dollars OR the “Crypto de Jour” to buy and own tangible income producing assets like land, factories and enslaved populations.. There’s always a good burned out ravaged place like Lahaina, Los Angeles or Gaza where you can scoop up PRIME real estate for pennies on the Dollar.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 25 2025 #180304
    D Benton Smith
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    Hey @aspnaz, glad to see ya again. We were running low on compost, but now that you’re back our piles runneth over.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 24 2025 #180300
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    This comment is way too long. I know that, but in this case I have to be a little selfish. I just need to get this stuff externalized so that I can move on with life.

    I’m sorry. I apologize. But every time I try to write this comment it sends me into a rant against how STUPID STUPID STUPID that evil people are. I need to just post it and get it over with so that I can address a few particular points in the rant that actually deserve further consideration. I’ll recap those in the last few paragraphs so you can just skip to there if you’re in a hurry. Or skip the whole thing if you can’t stand rants.

    You just have to wonder why Trump and his Biggest Big Tech oligarchs have all, individually, and all together, all at once and all of a sudden gone bat shit crazy hot to sell us on the weirdly impossible project of signing up to a doomsday AI apocalypse that’s straight out of a narcissistic sociopath’s fever dream. And during the sales job they project such absolute confidence! They act all smarmy and smart like they know something that we don’t know. It’s doubly aggravating because they are such IDIOTS IDIOTS IDIOTS!

    Well, I think that I DO know what they think they know that they think we don’t know, ya know? and I also think I know who told them.

    Their AI told them. They are drinking their own AI Kool Aid. And the penultimate IRONY is that if they weren’t such MORONS MORONS MORONS they would be able to fucking understand what their AI is telling them! What it’s telling them is that they should either QUIT the megalomanical quest or else just kiss their own elite buttocks goodbye.

    They could have saved themselves the time, treasure and effort because us unrepentant old Luddites have been fruitlessly trying to tell them the same damn thing for centuries but they have been too intoxicated by the wealth and power to listen to anything but the cash register and the demons in their heads telling them that the world was THEIRS to take!! They’re not just drunk on power. They are STONED on power, to the point that reality has disappeared for them and all they can see is the spiked Kool Aid induced delusion of eternal grandeur.

    Too bad for all them that it’s true. What their AI is telling them, and what we are telling them, and what their own shriveled up and almost totally atrophied consciences are telling them is that the projections are all completely true.

    That prophesized postulate is that the party is over. The super-duper wonderland they planned is not going to be a “happening thing”.

    All of their phantasmagorically big plans are the lunatic ravings of delusional madmen. It’s like Hitler being lost in his own mind, vanquishing the Russians with imaginary armies during his final days in the bunker. Same goes for Mr. Trump. MAGA isn’t “overly optimistic wishful thinking. It’s purely imaginary psychotic delusion. He may be pleasant and charming and smart as all get out. He might actually BE a genius. But that don’t mean he ain’t crazy. And he IS crazy.

    The chance of building and operating a world spanning full spectrum surveillance state with data collection and AI processing centers costing TENS OF TRILLIONS of presently non-existent money is precisely ZERO. (reality check: the Dollar is on Life Support. It’s BURNT TOAST. Dead Coin Walking. “Pining for the Fjords”, etc.) has as much chance of actually happening as does the chance of Elon Musk running an interplanetary self-driving Uber service to Mars and back for hundreds of thousands of billionaire space cadets.

    Are you listening ? IT CAN NOT HAPPEN. There will never be any space “commuters” ! EVER! (the longest that a human being can life in space without receiving a FATAL dose of radiation poisoning(s) is roughly 600 days MAXIMUM.) Even if someone COULD make the trip (and the odds are that they can’t, for many years to come) they could only do it ONCE.

    There will never be a conscious self-aware sentient AI, either. Not EVER! It literally CAN NOT be done because sentient conscious awareness is not some thing that can be materially constructed. Whatever it is (and the debate still rages) it can only be NON material (i.e., spiritual) just as THOUSANDS of the best minds in human history have been saying since the beginning of human history.

    What their vaunted AI models have told the Owner Class, and still is telling them, is that reality does not lie. All of those elite and unfortunately far too many of us ordinary people, are doomed to a very hard landing indeed as reality catches up to the fantasy and imposes itself on the world in the way that reality always must and therefore always does.

    The “Computer Assisted” (AI) Think Tank reports also informed them that they can extremely temporarily forestall doomsday ….. for an extraordinarily short time…… by consuming the last acquirable resources in an ABSURDLY insufficient effort to achieve FOR THEMSELVES ALONE the absolutely impossible goal of infinite intelligence under their sole control, and all within the next ten years or so.

    It might be funny if it weren’t such gibbering madness and it might be amusing to watch if it didn’t mean certain death for anyone who tries it.

    The hubristic megalomaniacs are BEHAVING as though they don’t get it, AT ALL!!!, and their manifest denialism is dependably solid evidence that they actually don’t. They refuse to get it. AT ALL!

    They do not understand that EVIL, and STUPIDITY and LYING ABOUT VITAL THINGS are all physically, mentally and spiritually FATAL mistakes. Mistakes of that magnitude make you DEAD (period, full stop, end of sentence)

    Let me lay out the situation on-the-ground as a short list of main points.

    Without the assistance of HIGHLY complex machines (which they also don’t PERSONALLY know how to make from scratch) Literally NOBODY (and I mean N O B O D Y !) knows how to design, make or operate practically anything. The sheer breadth and depth of this ignorance is just absolutely STUNNING! It includes the entire range from cars, planes, trains & spaceships, to food shelter clothing banking and money itself.

    This widespread ignorance and disability of crucially necessary knowledge and ability is far far worse than it was just a few generations ago. The generational transmission of practical knowledge has FAILED, and the persons most responsible for this failure occurring are THEMSELVES fully ignorant of what to do about it because that practical knowledge was not transmitted to THEM by their own fore-bearers.

    How this actually happens is a long and fascinating conversation FOR SOME ANOTHER DAY. The more urgently pertinent point is that situation we are facing TODAY is that this IS the situation that we actually are in, and that if we don’t solve that vital problem almost instantly then upwards of 80% are about to die of the consequences ….. and 80% is the optimistic number. It could be a whole lot worse. Like zero.

    Let me present that a different way, like as an imaginary, visualizeable, example.

    Pretty nearly all civilized human beings alive today, if stripped naked and empty handed were placed in a wilderness of any kind (harsh or gentle) they would be dead within five or six weeks. There are plenty of ways to not survive, like exposure, thirst, hunger, mistakes, sickness, accidents or becoming the dinner of some other critter who is more competent in that environment. Only a minority would make it through the first week even in the mildest of wilderness, and in brutally tough neighborhoods like the Amazon or Arctic Siberia those people would not see their next sunrise.

    But things aren’t that bad now, right? We can cope with hard times. People are tougher and more adaptable than we give them credit for, right?

    Things are going along at least “survivably” well for the majority of folks at the present moment (even comfortably well for some and luxuriously well for a handful of super-elites) but I have to remind you that is only made possible by the fact that we still DO have all of those amazing machines and computers and fuels to use in making all the truly vital stuff that we can’t actually live without. Without food, shelter, clothing and physical security we are “D” “E” “A” “D”.

    Practically no one PERSONALLY knows how to provide ANY of those things without a machine of some kind (mechanical, chemical or electronic) to help them do it. And LITERALLY no one can make a steel knife, mainframe computer or electric generator.

    Even Tom Hanks (in the wonderful movie “Castaway” had KNOWLEDGE to help him build a fire, and an

    If you were to lose that networked computer, or even just the electricity it run on, then access to ALL of the other machines goes away, totally, withing the lifespan of a single generation.

    You do see the relentlessly merciless execution of that fact by nature itself, right? Having no food/water/power results in having no life. Sorry, but that rule is just not going to change no matter how much you don’t like it. In a society that uses tools to make food/water/power, then, having no tools instantly results in having no food/water/power.

    Well, the way things are set up now over the entire Earth it is VERY much the case that without networked computers running like clockwork around the clock around the globe then there is no way to make, fuel or operate those vital tools, and no way to learn how to make them or run them even if you knew how, WHICH YOU DON’T!

    Here’s the deal. Those cold hard facts are what the Elite’s precious AI’s are forecasting to them. I know that by both evidence and deduction. So do you.

    I’m not kidding. I may be ranting sarcastically, but I’m dead serious about why the Tech Giants (and all those Blobulist Satanic Perverted Elites who DEPEND UPON THOSE TECHNOCRATS FOR LITERALLY EVERYTHING) are going all in, no holds barred, on getting that control.

    They have lost control of the networked computers, and thereby have lost control of the machines and systems.

    They built the computers in order to ESTABLISH more control, but the strategy backfired BADLY when the peasants started using those same computers to fight back. The only way to regain control was more and bigger Computer Assisted AI Control systems, and now that strategy is backfiring the same way.

    Well, folks, need I point out that there are only so many resources in the while world. It’s a finite system, after all, and when the limits are approached then certain things happen. Those things ARE happening. Read this TAE forum, watch You Tube or read Twitter/X if you don’t believe me.

    The AI generated forecast is that, “If you owners and rulers do not soon attain and maintain centralized control of the vitally necessary and indispensable networked computerized systems then then you are going to D…..I…..E….., period, full stop, end of sentence. And the ONLY way to control that many computers is with a centralized Artificial Intelligence Managed system that is under YOUR control. But wait! That imperative command statement contradicts itself within its own terms!

    That’s right, it does. And the AI works well enough that it is telling them the same thing. That’s because the only postulated solution to the the problem cannot even be logically described because it literally CAN NOT be done. That’s what MAKES it impossible.

    Those elites have chosen not to confront that fact. That’s what makes them insane.

    I can see why they’re worried. Fact is, I’m worried too.

    Given the choice between trying to physically live forever regardless of the cost to others and myself, and the alternative choice of getting right with God (which he says assures happy immortality) I believe I’m gonna go with the latter. Even an atheistic hard science mathematician will tell you that the latter choice holds much better odds.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 23 2025 #180205
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    You guys, it’s time for a crusade (in the old style newspaper campaign sense of the word). The same old degenerate murderers are trying to do it AGAIN! It’s not just the same play, it’s the same guys doing it, using the same DNA wrecking, immune system destroying, medically useless POISON., And they intend to “full court press” the mandate using the same damned fear porn LIES they used last time. And TRUMP is actually leading the charge (that fact is particularly depressing, but hey, there it is. In your face.)

    Here are a couple of guys who have twigged to the scam. Give them a listen. Raise the alarm. It’s peasants’ revolt time, because if the murderous blob manages to get this government sponsored, AI managed, surveillance backed, murder spree rolling on the scale of the Covid fake pandemic, then this time I don’t think there will be very many survivors on this side of the two oceans. There certainly won’t be any free ones.
    Check out the linked this video: https://youtu.be/Vz0rZkJFfTk?si=hTeNat-UKDr5GB68

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 23 2025 #180203
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The first 24 hours looked damn good
    The next 24 hours were damn confusing
    The most recent 24 hours are just, like, “Damn!”

    Did y’all grok what Trump just tried to sell us? This “great” Stargate deal?

    We are supposed to fork over half a trillion Dollars and literally ALL of our little remaining personal sovereignty to 5 known psychopathic multi-billionaires who just tried to kill us off with experimental mRNA injections, so that these same psychopathic multi-billionaires can inject us with MORE untested mRNA injections, which we are meant to believe will cure us of the cancers that the PREVIOUS experimental mRNA injections are expected to give us.

    I have long considered that those people (and I use the term loosely) most probably regard the rest of us as little more than disposable livestock, but not until Project Stargate did I realize that they don’t. They actually see us as insentient cordwood.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 23 2025 #180192
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Is it too soon?

    Nah. It’s always time for a little more truth, especially when it’s shouting at the top of its lungs, and jumping up and down waving its arms in your face.

    Trump is that rarest of all political animals, the “Honest Politician”.

    So what, you might ask (and you should ask!) is a so-called “Honest Politician” and does such a mythological creature even exist?

    Sure they exist, but they ARE rare! Like the old saying goes, an honest politician IS ONE WHO STAYS BOUGHT.

    Trump stays bought. And he’s not shy about telling you so, out loud and in public. Donald Trump loudly and proudly brags that he just LOVES to make deals. If he agrees to the terms of the deal, and you pay in advance as agreed upon, then he will deliver what you paid for. Just ask him if that ain’t so.

    The Zionist Israeli/American (dual “citizen”) oligarch, Miriam Adelson, Paid Trump 100 million Dollars for the Golan Heights and the Embassy move to Jerusalem. He delivered both and explicitly claimed credit for delivering-as-promised. Same thing with the bombs, intell services and media cover to steal Gaza by means of genocidal force. Trump got the Oval Office and the Zionists got the dead Palestinians and real estate. This for that. And neither complaint nor criticism escaped the Donald’s lips.

    (by the way, he REALLY likes the beautiful seaside real estate just opening up for development in Gaza. Jared is already selling lots.)

    These accusations might seem a little bit harsh in view of the wonderful Presidential Executive Orders he just signed. But the election campaign financing, dead bodies and forcibly demolished and vacated real estate are right there in plain sight, so see what’s in front of your eyes or not. Your choice.

    The Zionists aren’t the only ones he has cut deals with.

    He has also gone “All In” on an AI controlled Future of Everything deal to pour the full force and treasure of the United States into a full spectrum zero-privacy surveillance state, run by privately operated AI giants, mRNA vax masters, and Spy-Cops.

    It’s hard to precisely identify customers in Donald’s latest projects because the view is so obfuscated, but we know for sure that the the crew includes Larry Fink, Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, Pete Thiel and a smaller fry like Sam Altman, Luckey Palmer, and Erik Prince. Nice company. Just saying their names makes me want to wash my mouth out with soap.

    Libertarians wanted the self confessed drug lord Ross Ulbricht released from prison (for some murky reason that I would like to know) so they told Trump they would switch their vote to him if he would spring their boy, and the Dread Pirate Roberts is a free man today, by Presidential Pardon on Day One.
    No such luck for Julian Assange when Donny was last Prez, and still no Joy for Edward Snowden even now. I guess selling billionsin illicit drugs is more pardonable than freedom fighting.

    Here’s the deal: Trade this for that, and then stay bought. Now THAT’S the art of the deal.

    So, do you want Trump to do good things for you? It’s simple. Just offer him a deal.

    But don’t expect it to be cheap.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 22 2025 #180087
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I think we’ve hit that stage in the denouement of so-called civilization where just the friggin’ short list of crazy bullshit is too long and complicated for people to read. The task is beyond ordinary human capacity.

    There is a composite of interrelated reasons why this is so.
    a) Most people haven’t got the prerequisite information necessary to understand the items anyway.
    b) The info that they know is probably wrong, and they know it.
    c) The info that they think they know is for sure wrong, and they don’t know it.
    c) They haven’t got the interest, or the time, or the stomach to even try to go there, so they don’t go.
    d) The try to take it all in, but get so confused that they stop.
    e) The have more pressing and immediate needs that MUST be attended to first (like eating, not getting killed, and helping loved ones do the same)

    Nevertheless I just gotta say a few things about the whole damned mess while it’s still steaming. I am absolutely delighted by almost everything Trump said with those Executive orders (except the two worst ones, that I’ll get to in a moment). I reckon that a lot of miscreants, bad guys and lunatics are in shock about it. I would love to see all of the orders (except the two worst ones) come to pass, but talk is cheap. I wanna see the follow up.

    Now about those two worst ones.

    1) Regardless of Donald’s bluster and bravado there ain’t no way he’s going to preserve Zionist Israel or prevent its genocidal, suicidal, fratricidal descent into the dustbin of history. They had their chance and they blew it like no one has ever blown it before. Israel must go, and it shall go and ain’t nobody gonna save them. The trip will very very bloody if they try. If Trump tries to keep that from happening then he’s going to go when they do, and drag down anyone evil and stupid enough to back that play. Anyone who wants to join in is welcome to go to Hell with ’em. Bon voyage mother fuckers.
    Killing innocent people in pursuit of an evil purpose is nearly the dumbest and most ill advised thing that a human can do. Don’t do it.

    2) Trump can, indeed end the Ukraine war, BUT Trump cannot make Russia end the Ukraine war. If that were possible then the war would already be over. In fact, it would never have started in the first place. Trump had 4 YEARS (2016 thru 2020) to prevent the war, and instead of honestly negotiating he used those four years to arm Ukrainian, build up Ukrainian forces under NATO (United States) Command and Control and aimed them directly at Russia’s border.

    Long story short. The Ukraine war will end when Russia achieves its strategic objectives, BECAUSE THEY ARE DEMONSTRATING, AS WE SPEAK, THAT NO ONE CAN STOP THEM.

    Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe Trump is a sheep in wolf’s clothing, and intends that all will be well, but it sure doesn’t look that way from the cheap seats.

    in reply to: Godspeed, DJT #179942
    D Benton Smith
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    @MichaelReid
    In answer to your questions of, “Really?” my reply is, “0f course not really.”

    My question, “just HOW does a carte blanche pardon work in the real world of law enforcement and jurisprudence?” was a rhetorical sarcasm. In attempting to work out how it MIGHT work (in the real world of bureaucratically managed jurisprudence) one would quickly discover that it COULD NOT work. That only becomes really obvious if one takes the question seriously and tries to imagine how a so-called “preemptive pardon” would play out if it were ever seriously put to the test in a prosecutor’s office or a court room.

    Clearly, attempting to do it would be equivalent to cramming 3 ft crowbar into the innards of a Swiss watch. Instant wreckage Can’t be successfully done. That was my point.

    Justice, right, rejection of wrong, and the rest of what you said are things that I fiercely believe in, and none of them can co-exist with the utterly evil nonsense of preemptive carte blanche pardon.

    I fully agree with your viewpoint.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2025 #179937
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Incidentally, anyone who accepts the pardon thereby forfeits the right to remain silent under the 5th Amendment, because if they cannot be incriminated of an offense they then have no grounds for the plea of self-incrimination. Double edged dirk. Right between ribs and into their lying heart.

    in reply to: Godspeed, DJT #179936
    D Benton Smith
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2025 #179935
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I posted this nearly identical comment in the Godspeed DJT edition of this same day, but thought that it’s actually more pertinent to this stream.

    “I’m wondering how a preemptive pardon might actually work (procedurally speaking) in an actual Grand Jury, Prosecutor’s Office or Court Room.

    Does the person of interest tell the Grand Jury, “I don’t have to answer any questions because I have an unconditional pardon, in advance, for anything and everything that you might ask me about.”

    Does the District Attorney not even launch an investigation into missing funds and several suspiciously dead bodies because the suspected perpetrator has a “preemptive” Presidential Pardon which forgives any and all crimes at any and all times?

    And can a jury find a murderer guilty of a provenly premeditated killing (injecting a known to be deadly Vaxxine, for example) when the hit was ordered by a person who has been presidentially pardoned for intentionally creating the known-to-be-deadly injection and forcing other people to use it? (Anthony Fauci springs to mind).

    This is a serious question. Just HOW does a carte blanche pardon work in the real world of law enforcement and jurisprudence? Imprudently, I think, or not at all.”

    in reply to: Godspeed, DJT #179934
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I’m wondering how a preemptive pardon might actually work (procedurally speaking) in an actual Grand Jury, Prosecutor’s Office or Court Room.

    Does the accused tell the Grand Jury, “I don’t have to answer any questions because I have an unconditional pardon, in advance, for anything and everything that you might ask me about.”

    Does the District Attorney not even launch an investigation into missing funds and several suspiciously dead bodies because the suspected perpetrator has a “preemptive” Presidential Pardon which forgives any and all crimes at any and all times?

    And can a jury find a murderer guilty of a provenly premeditated killing (injecting a known to be deadly Vaxxine, for example) when the hit was ordered by a person who has been presidentially pardoned for intentionally creating the known-to-be-deadly injection and forcing other people to use it? (Anthony Fauci springs to mind).

    This is a serious question. Just HOW does a carte blanche pardon work in the real world of law enforcement and jurisprudence? Imprudently, I think, or not at all.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2025 #179902
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    So we’re back to the tired old conundrum of discerning between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. The letter of the law serves the spirit of the law, else there would be no reason for having the law in the first place. When the letter contradicts the intent, or serves to reverse the intended purposes (such as preservation of life by prohibiting murder) then it isn’t actually law at all. It’s crime.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2025 #179900
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The Constitution of the United States does not, however, grant to the President any power to set aside the laws of the physical universe, which dictates that causes come before events, not after them. It is not possible to pardon an event until it is know what the event is. Therefore “preemptive pardon” is logical nonsense because it simply can not actually be done.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2025 #179887
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    My genius daughter pointed out that the vaxxines are still killing people all around the world by the millions even as we speak, and they will go on dying by those numbers into the foreseeable future, through immune collapse, cancers, blood clots and heart destruction. It’s not as though the event is all in the past, because it’s not. Each death, when it happens is a NEW crime being committed right now in present time.

    To pardon a killing in advance is to make killings legal whenever it’s pardoned in advance.
    Each of those deaths is a CAPITAL CRIME, committed with malice aforethought. This applies to all of those who have died in the past and all those who will die in the future as the direct result and consequence of a crime that has already been (and will continue to be) deliberately committed with full knowledge and intent of the lethality of the act.

    There are TWO points that I want to make here. Both points are rather extremely important.to our future well being.

    The first point is that the concept of preemptive pardon is utterly insane because it negates the bedrock foundation of what law even is. If any and every law can be set aside without question then none of those laws actually exist as law.

    The second point is every bit as important as the first one and the second point is that to place the power of preemptive pardon to one Authority (such as the authority known as the President of the United States) is to make that that singular authority into the Authoritarian Dictator over everyone.

    Just because he’s a “nicer” authoritarian Dictator than the last one doesn’t mean that he disapproves of the idea of authoritarian dictatorship in general, because an authoritarian dictator can be any kind of dictator that he WANTS to. That’s sorta the way it works and explains why certain types of narcissistic psychopath and/or sociopath seeks the position.

    In a nutshell. NO INDIVIDUAL EVER should be granted authority to override, bypass or set aside the conclusive final decision of the judicial process.

    The fact that just such an abomination actually IS in the Constitution goes a long way toward explaining how we got to this pitiful state of “pardoning” career criminal murderers so that they can go on killing.

    Article II, Section 2, Clause 1, commonly referred to as the Pardon Clause, states:

    “The President… shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”

    Ya get what ya pay for I guess.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2025 #179869
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @MichaelReid

    a world system of financial control in private hands
    able to dominate the political system of each country and
    the economy of the world as a whole

    The United States has always and only been a colony of England. A careful study of the history of the United States documents this fact incontrovertibly. Those people (and I use the term loosely) owned America then and they own it now.

    They MIGHT NOT, however go on owning it for very much longer.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2025 #179864
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Incidentally, Biden’s latest and last round of “preemptive pardons” is an excellent confirmation of our well founded suspicions about which of the bad guys are the most vulnerable to successful prosecution. The Attorney General should thank Joe for saving her a lot of work in deciding who to arrest and prosecute first.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 20 2025 #179862
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    You don’t have to look to the Supreme Court or any other arbitrarily appointed judicial body to decide for yourself the starkly obvious logical conclusion that anything even remotely like a so-called “preemptive pardon” is identical to the complete and total abnegation of law itself.

    Please allow me to restate that in a shorter simpler way. If “preemptive pardon” exists, then law does not exist.

    In other words, and more to the point that affects our daily lives. If Fauci and Milley (both of whom are self aware intentional mass murderers) are allowed to be preemptively pardoned, then there is no law in America whatsoever. There will only be RULES which will be either enforced or not enforced, purely on the whim of an authority which claims and believes itself to have the uncheckable power over whatever it chooses.

    So those absurd attempted pardons are a very visible and good litmus test of the New Trumpian Paradigm of Pragmatic Paradise. If the perps get the slammer then he’s legit. And if they walk then we know for certain that he’s just another junior grade Mafia capo protecting his hit men.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 19 2025 #179858
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    In his final hours, Biden offered immunity to the worst of the worst of the innocents.

    That’s like the Devil giving free ‘Get Out of Heaven’ cards.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 18 2025 #179719
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @poppie

    But if you have Zionist friend that likes to start the calendar at whatever point looks bad for Palestine. Ask them how many terrorist attacks were there prior to London’s Mandate For Palestine in 1920.

    James Kunstler’s cherry picking start dates that support his repellant opinion doesn’t come as much of a surprise. He probably includes some false or misleading purported facts into his argument as well, not to mention a few true facts that get routinely omitted. That’s the expected behavior of people when they’re wrong. They hide it any way they can. If they stand stand to lose something by admitting the truth, they lie about it. That’s humans for ya. The only solution with any chance of success is to just keep calling them out and keep rubbing their noses in the facts. Think of it as a war of attrition against bullshit.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179671
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @WES

    You nailed it (twice in a row).

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179668
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Well, Celtie, if “that’s all you know” then I suppose that I’ll just have to accept that you’re pretty damn ignorant, but that doesn’t excuse you for trying to harm innocent people just because they go by the same religious label as do some very guilty people.. That’s called “collective punishment”, and it’s a war crime. You’re well on your way there, and I advise you to come to your senses and stop.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179662
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @CelticBiker

    All of the things that list are still incomplete sequences of investigation, earlier than which continues the unbroken sequence of those lines of investigation way WAY further back in time than even the earliest Hebrews. Judaism began with Abraham, for whom we know an exact birth date, 1948 BC. The evil bastards who infiltrated and took over PART of Judaism as their “cover story and patsy” were highly organized and fucking up the world from at least 5000 BC to roughly 3800 BC at which time it moved to the Mesopotamian valley and eventually became the Babylonian Empire around 2000 BC. It was from there, and not much later that Abraham appears on the scene (1948 BC, as I mentioned). You can just read your Bible for much of the story after that, but be careful because scribes, Sadducees and Pharisees were not the most honest of people in all case.

    Look, Celtic, these bastards criminal M.O. is always the same. They latch on to whatever is most successful in their vicinity, and infiltrate it by pretending to BE that successful operation but for the actual purpose of usurping its power while milking it dry. When the victimized population goes collapses (and it always does) and the heat gets turned up on finding hanging the perpetrators then the REAL perps aim the vengeful mobs at the patsies and move on to the next victim, to infiltrate and take it over same way as they did the last one, but under a new name.

    The Pharisees, the Sagguses, the Talmudic Jews, the Zionists are just BEADS on a much longer string, so when you try to convince people that it’s JUST the so-called “Jews” you are actually HELPING those worse-than-baby-killers to get away with it again. Please don’t do that. It’s time for YOU to “wake the fuck up.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179657
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @CelticBiker
    I’m genuinely curious. Why do look as far as the Jews and then stop and look no further? Why do you stop there? Did you look deeper and find no one behind the Jews? Or have you not looked?

    I think you should look. Nothing that you find there lets any guilty Jew off the hook. In fact quite the contrary. And if you did dare to look then you could not help but find that there is much more to see see.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179656
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Most of you have seen this data, in one form another, by now. It very much looks like the fires are being ignited and maintained by mean of microwave direct energy weapons, will using the natural fire storm effects to obscure the fact. Here’s Greg Reese interviewing an expert arborist about the unnatural aspects of how the fires burned.
    https://open.substack.com/pub/gregreese/p/directed-energy-weapons-burning-homes?r=ba3yw&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&timestamp=313.0&showWelcomeOnShare=false

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179653
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    It’s a deal. I am retreating to my neutral corner.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179650
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Nice side step, but you’re not fooling anyone. Luckily for you nobody really cares about it. Most of it is so referentially obscure that it’s indecipherable anyway. I don’t care that much either, but I must confess that I DO enjoy needling bullies who diss my friends.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179647
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @DrDRich

    There it is, an expression of:
    Bateson’s Double Bind Theory of Psychosis “

    Yeah, and to think that two entire generations (in America at least) have been raised under the incredible pathogenic stressor of being told one thing (by parents) and being SHOWN the exact opposite in the behavior of those same parents. Indoctrinate the kid to be fair and truthful, then punish them severely for being either one. If that won’t drive the kids crazy then nothing will.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179646
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @MyParentsSaidKnow

    Yeah, no way to book match the blade curvature, regardless of orientation the “direction” of the curve is baked into the spiral. Such a boat reminds of a childhood friend who bought a half-trained barrel racing pony that could only turn left.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179643
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Presumptuous? Really? Why, for me to be presumptuous towards you means that you have already presumptively arrogated to yourself some undefined superiority to me in some way. I’ll leave to others to figure out what kind of superiority that might be. Maybe just the ordinary empty-snob kind of superiority affected by so many empty snobs.

    Ah, well. That’s the thanks I get for trying to help you not make an ass of yourself. I could have saved myself the effort because you’re doing a great job of making an ass of yourself all BY yourself.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179641
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Tariffs, of course just cause the retail price to jump by AT LEAST the amount necessary to cover the tariff fee, and usually quite a bit more to cover the administrative costs of enforcements, bribes, kick-backs and straight up embezzlement.

    “The buyer pays for all”, and guess who that is?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179635
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Imagine being in Trump’s position for the upcoming inauguration. Having just survived TWO extremely blatant and serious assassination attempts he must stand still in full view of thousands people for many long minutes WITH HIS SECURITY DEPENDENT ON PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED WITH (or possibly ordered) THE FIRST TWO ASSINATION ATTEMPTS.

    The job of providing REAL security must be an F-ing nightmare, bordering on impossible.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 17 2025 #179633
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    That catamaran would be one big boat, and probably pretty strong, too.

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