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Jasper Johns Map 1961 (yes, it’s the US)

Post brain fart, we’ll slowly be coming back, having used the forced pause to make some long intended changes. Let’s see where this leads us. I want to do some more writing than in the past few years, though I don’t know if I even still know how to do it. But losing RT again seems a good moment to do it (BTW, if anyone has a URL for RT that works in Holland, you’d make me very happy)

 

 

Late last month, I noticed something that hasn’t seemed to make the news very much. oddly enough. That is, Matt Margolis reported, based on a report by Maria Bartiromo at Fox Business who in turn quoted a CNBC article , citing the Commerce Department. According to them, annualized Q3 US GDP went places that for a long time nobody said it could. It rose 4.3%. Not 1, not 2, not even 3, but 4.3%. That is a serious number. People were saying 5% came to mind. Yesterday,a month later, President Trump mentioned 5.4% (not sure for what period). And despite all the commentary on his Davos “performance”, nobody even mentioned, let alone tried to refute, the number.

New GDP Numbers Just Dropped, and Democrats Should Be Freaking Out (Matt Margolis)

Democrats just watched economic reality obliterate their favorite doomsday talking point. The U.S. economy grew at an amazing 4.3% annualized rate in the third quarter of 2025, blowing past expectations and handing the Trump administration a massive win heading into 2026. “The U.S. economy grew at a much greater-than-expected pace in the third quarter, boosted by strong consumer spending, a delayed report released Tuesday showed,” CNBC reported Tuesday morning. “U.S. gross domestic product, a sum of all goods and services produced in the sprawling U.S. economy, expanded by 4.3% in the July-September period, the Commerce Department said in its initial reading of third-quarter growth. Economists polled by Dow Jones expect a gain of 3.2%.”

Maria Bartiromo underscored just how significant the number was on Fox Business. “We’re, we are looking right now at the GDP number at 4.3%,” she said. “This is the actual number, versus an estimate of 3.3%.” She then turned to Mark Tepper, CEO of Strategic Wealth Partners, for his take. Tepper framed the report as part of a broader economic trend that has consistently surprised to the upside. “So, last week, we talked about inflation coming in lower than expected,” he said. “Now, economic growth is one full percentage point faster than expected. It was supposed to come in at 3.3, came in at 4.3. This is a direct result of everything President Trump has put in place.”

Cue Democrat panic. He went on to outline several drivers behind the surge, pointing to trade policy, technological gains, and resilient consumers. “Net exports are on the rise because of Trump’s tariff policy, which is leveling the trade playing field,” Tepper explained. “AI’s increasing productivity, businesses are investing in spending, and the consumer remains strong.” He added that even more fuel is on the way. “And just think, next, I think, well, next quarter, they’ll, they’ll end up getting an extra $150 billion in refund checks that they can then, uh, deploy and spend as well.” Tepper concluded, “So, great number.”

Bartiromo agreed and looked ahead to what could come next. “Great number, 4.3%, and I’ve got to say when I see a GDP of 4.3%, I have to believe 5% is not far away,” she said, referencing a forecast made on her program the week before. “And that, of course, is what Louis Navolari told us last week, Mark, that we’re gonna see a 5% GDP handle in the first half of the year.” Tepper said the prediction is holding up well. “He, uh, looks like Nostradamus right now,” he remarked. “I mean, uh, he almost predicted that on the head.” With current momentum, Tepper said the next milestone is within reach. “Um, obviously 5% is well within our reach, especially given the consumer tailwinds I just mentioned.”

Naturally, legacy media outlets are already scrambling to frame this as “unexpected,” despite the fact that Donald Trump has been saying all along that his policies were going to work. The left wants a recession. We’re getting record growth instead.

Things I’m interested in now:

• CNN’s Q3 2025 GDP numbers.

• Trump admin’s Q4 GDP numbers

 

 

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  • #228898

    Jasper Johns Map 1961 (yes, it’s the US) Post brain fart, we’ll slowly be coming back, having used the forced pause to make some long intended changes
    [See the full post at: 23-1-2026 US GDP]

    #228907
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The United States soaring GDP is a direct reflection and consequence of soaring money supply as the Fed’s printers roar into overdrive to somehow keep ahead of the poly-collapse of the Silver market, the bonds market, and GROSS overinvestment in Artificial Intelligence (which not only diluted the currency, but consumed resources that could not then be used to make REAL things.), and perhaps biggest of all, the dreaded rise of BRICS Plus.

    #228908
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Do these fires in Patagonia remind y’all of anything like Los Angeles or Maui? These idiots really are idiots. So arrogant that they don’t even feel the need to change their M.O. . I think they WANT us to see the connections because the openly contemptuous flamboyance of the insult adds to the pathological thrill of their narcissism.

    #228909
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Hey Ilargi, good to see you’re back in the trenches. Welcome back to the home you built, man. We’ve missed you, and need you at the helm.

    #228910
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Traci Derwin is a bright lady looking into all the right places. A rising star I predict.
    https://www.youtube.com/@brushjunkie6384/videos

    #228912
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    One of the reasons that we live in a technological society is that science, mathematics and the technological devices and capabilities which they engender gives the holder of superior science and technology an overwhelming advantage in most contests against less well-equipped competitors and adversaries.

    That’s why knowledge of those advanced technologies are kept top bloody secret for as long as possible before they are eventually leaked, duplicated or released.

    To ALWAYS be 30 or 40 years ahead of the competition is simply unbeatable. Well, that’s what happened when the British and American Military-Intelligence-Industrialized-Finance leadership acquired nearly miraculous technological advantages of the electronic computing machine and controlled atomic fission near the end of WW2 (the ’40s).

    They kept it top bloody secret. A physicist or arms manufacturer or banker with a COMPUTING MACHINE can, will and DID run circles around the competition. And they used that advantage to remain 30 or 40 years ahead of all challengers. In short, they ruled the world.

    But the run is over because the competition has caught up, and without the unfair (and top secret) advantages of having more advanced science, technology and electronically computed mathematics the Old Guard who grabbed the brass ring back in Bletchley Park and Los Alamos are at the end of their run. They hit the wall. Dead ghoul walking.

    I hope these references are not too obscure, but I just don’t have the heart to write it all out in grisly detail. The sharper (and more well read) among you will get the drift.

    I’m happy to report the historical details to any who are interested. Inquire herein.

    #228913
    Sylvia 1
    Participant

    Yea!! So happy to see a post from you and look forward to seeing many more. Your friend Sylvia in Dallas where we await “stormaggeddon” and a river of ice!

    #228916
    Dora
    Participant

    Great you see you back again! Huzzah! and Happy New Year.

    #228918
    Dora
    Participant

    In Holland? Try https://swentr.site/

    #228919

    In Holland? Try https://swentr.site/

    That’s the one we just lost. RT News spelled backward.

    #228920
    tboc
    Participant

    Good to hear from you Mr. Meijer.

    would anyone be surprised that the federal debt rose +- 5.26% in 2025?
    Federal US government borrowed $602 billion in first three months of 2026 – https://www.crfb.org/press-releases/treasury-confirms-602-billion-deficit-first-three-months-fy-2026
    $602 billion is equal to 1.58% of US GDP (annualize that number)
    Consumer debt rose +-2% in 2025
    which segments of the economy grew?

    GDP grew X% this month (annualized in inflation corrected dollars)
    “There are lies, damned lies and statistics” – Mark Twain

    #228929
    ram
    Participant

    Glad to see you are recovering Ilargi.

    #228933
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Welcome back RIM and I wish you speedy full recover

    ….These idiots really are idiots….

    The group has a name Mr Deebson!
    Patagonia fires are “catching fire” on the internet and every blogger, for the millionth time, has to announce the distinction between Zionists and the Jews. Not so fast and unfortunately this is how the things will unfold:
    Obviously there are honorable exceptions, the Jews opposing what is currently going on with Israel, Actions of that state is already creating world awakening and the backlash is slowly unfolding. In the US, for the possible event that it may go out the control or even before that, magically the ICE agents will turn into goons for “protection of Jews” and with that, wait for it, the “good Jews”, out the self preservation, will side with such policy, Again, now with the ever shrinking, honorable exceptions.

    #228934
    kultsommer
    Participant

    recovery

    #228947
    tboc
    Participant

    @ kultsommer – “magically the ICE agents will turn into goons for “protection of Jews”….
    interesting hypothesis

    #228956
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Gold/Silver

    Sachs says 1% move is world-ending, making Presidents snap to heel.

    $114.47 silver in Shanghai, now 7% on the day. No comment. No one cares.

    “It Exists, So We Lied!!!”
    the media said. Would that be as they say, the BRITISH media? Total blackout of all events that are BRITISH weakness? Yup. And Trump weaknesses, of which there are many that are real?

    NOPE. They only make s—t up. Make up things that never happened, never talk about the ones that did.

    Just like EVERY Impeachment. These several Presidents did real crimes. They Impeach for kissing a girl or using the phone instead.

    Okay, so what is the sitch? Yeah, um, TEN PERCENT Arb on silver. $100>$114. Find a bag of coins, have Homeland Security put them in a suitcase and escort you through security at the Minneapolis airport like they do for Somalis, and fly to China. Boom, instant millionaire.

    THEY ARE NOT. I don’t think it’s that Wall Street traders don’t like money, so it must be the other thing: LONDON DOESN’T HAVE ANY. Cause the U.S. has a tonnn. We have more mines than Mexico (although all closed atm). American people have more silver stashed under the couch than possibly anything, including meth. $100 isn’t shaking it out of them? A quarter is now worth $20 (which is about what it should be). We have no drug addicts in the U.S. no mo’?

    Do tell. Discuss among yourselves.

    You know what’s really going on though? 6 Sigma end of Japanese Bond market.

    No news at all, so it must be important. Boy the British News groups sure make a lot of Accidents, all in one direction! Boy are they careless about world-ending events, and drop the biggest stories of this century!

    Whooopsie! It’s all One. Big. Accident. All run by the same Murdoch, Soros, Bezos…

    ““This is how tyranny looks in the modern world. It arrives dressed as dialogue, consensus, and expertise. It is imposed by people who sincerely believe they are doing nothing at all.” —DataRepublican, (re: Jeffery Sachs)

    “Minnesota Judge Blocks Federal Charges Against Don Lemon Over Anti-ICE Church Disruption

    You know, I’m down for a lot of Reindeer Games, but the Judge “Doesn’t allow” being charged? Isn’t that what a court is for?

    Amazing coincidence: now that the Protestors have been paid and activated, this charts shows the exact lowest temps are directly over Minneapolis.
    temp-shun
    But I am a coincidence theorist, and it is Winter in North America.

    “Finnish President Claims Europe Can ‘Unequivocally’ Defend Itself Without US

    Sold! You don’t have to say it. We’re gone. We can save a billion-trillion dollars now. By the way Finland was telling all Europe and the United States how it’s gonna be now. About Russia. Goooooo Finland!

    Speaking of: “Canada’s Military Preps Model of Hypothetical US Invasion in Historic First

    Good. You should. Maybe then you’ll train more than 10 men. And order HR Karen to abuse them one by one in continuing rotation.

    “House Speaker Endorses Impeachment of Federal Judges Over Rulings

    Congress pursuing the process of enforcing process of existing law. That is indeed headline news. But hasn’t happened yet. Don’t hold your breath: they’re Republicans.

    “Trump Suggests He Can Send $2,000 Tariff Rebate Checks Without Congress

    Proving it. Sooooo…Republican Congress would all vote AGAINST winning the election AND lowering taxes? What did I just tell you: They’re Republicans. Of course they would.

    Richard Wolff & Michael Hudson: This Could Break NATO: Trump, Rutte, and Europe’s Last Stand
    Dialogue Works 5.8K views

    Oh noes! Army of the Empire dissolves! We’re doomed! Wolff and Hudson say this is terrible! Empire must not end! Trump works for the Derp State we’re sure bc he keeps trying to disband their army all the time!

    Max Otte: How Germany Destroyed Itself – No Turning Back Glenn Diesen•116K views•3 days ago

    Now Germany destroyed themselves. America wasn’t anywhere near them! Make up your mind.

    “Fauci Knew Natural Immunity Was Real BEFORE Vax Mandate
    Newly released emails show that Anthony Fauci KNEW that natural immunity was more effective than the COVID vaccine. If you want to understand how the modern world is collapsing, you have to stop pretending this was ever purely about “health.”
    Nooo!!! Wha????

    6 Years later…

    Arrr
    Gulf of Arrests

    It’s Magic: you can BOTH admit it, openly, AND take no punishment for it. And they’re LESS mad that it takes longer!

    Fauci Knew Natural Immunity Was Real BEFORE Vax Mandate


    Anyway, It was all for Statism, house arrest, no rule of law, and Digital ID. Wait! I thought Trump was the first guy in American history who ever dodged the Constitution. But here this was all tried and totally misfired! What happened? He’s in there now, totally Derp State which is why he keeps assassinating himself, and isn’t promoting this now but the opposite. Whazzap??

    Michelle Obama says she’s an open racist, boycotts all products based on skin color. Sold. Okay, Mickey, we all only buy products from our own race from now on. That’s openness and tolerance.

    “Trump Touts “Total And Permanent” Access To Greenland, While Nobody Has Any Clue What’s In The Deal

    Wow, no one except Kunstler. “We spoke therefore we lied.”

    “What really happened at Davos this week is uproariously simple. Mr. Trump just notified the parties involved that an agreement dating from 1951 gives the USA “unrestricted access” to Greenland, for the excellent reason that the US military prevented the Nazis from seizing it during World War Two, with all that implies. Fait accompli. The USA will now do what it [wants].

    That is. THERE IS NO NEGOTIATION. Never was. It was already signed in 1951, Trump just dug it up, dusted it off, and handed it to them. HOW DARE YOU??? How dare you bring to our attention contracts already signed by Eisenhower?

    Soooo…what was all this nonsense about? Just to make you all run around like idiots and lose your minds. Johnson. Wolffe. Ritter. Alex. Wilkerson. Like I said, illustrates Europe plans to defend 600,000sq miles by sending THREE soldiers, while we have large (underground) U.S. military bases there.

    ARE we on 5% GDP? Errr. Yes, but it’s statistics. Apparently it’s a lot with trade deficits, etc., so there’s statistical arcana that isn’t “real”. Sort of. Is there “real” GDP in the sense we knew before? Welllll…. THAT GDP last 40 years was all fake too! 1) It was measuring things that don’t have effects on daily life 2) Misreporting inflation so 5, 10, 20% inflation (like for a few months under Biden) would have NEGATIVE 15% GDP. And GDP off and on negative since 1999. How do you THINK the country got smaller and gutted and nobody makes anything, 20M eligible workers unemployed? 20M on Food Stamps?

    Okay, taking that aside, IS there ANY GDP rise in the U.S.? Yes. But back-end. Russell 2000 is finally strong, but that means business owners are buying (probably borrowing) capital equipment and making plans. That pays a FEW people, but not broadly line-workers. It’s still very rough here. So it’s still just statistical anomalies, slowly heading in the right direction, first time in a generation. That’s how you know he’s Derp State. Bc he’s paying Main Street for us to regain sovereignty.

    What is it REALLY here, in “this is how it usually FEELS terms?” 2% GDP stamp coming off a hard recession. And very little confidence. They’re just one day at a time, easy to reverse. Employment refuses to rise bc they won’t do wages (A warehouse driver and an architect are both at $25/hr) and they still want insane asks, like 5-specialty server admins who carry a cell phone, but also want to drive to sites at Buck-ees and fix one cash register on the floor in the salt and grease using their own car. No. Are you mental? That’s never happened in employment history since Octavian. Get your brains on.

    We need to take 20 years of HR Karens and dunk them like witches. And it’s January: I’ll break the ice for them.

    DBS, yes, it’s hard for us normals to understand but the POINT is for you to know the Lie. They Want and Need you to know. They want to dare you to talk about it. The point of the lie is the demoralization. If you thought it was true, that wouldn’t happen. Cue Orwell and Solzhenitsyn quotes but I’m too tired to look them up.

    Now you mean RT is gone as in it’s been banned in your area? Anyone able to light up a 2005 laptop in the corner of the basement in America Raul can just remote into?

    #228960
    Noirette
    Participant

    Ilargi, hope you are doing well, getting better.

    GDP is one measure of the ‘Economy’ and not a particularly good one.

    Made up crude ex.:

    If in a small ‘State’, Area, 59 Tesla cars crash / explode, 7 ppl die bang off, and 40 ppl in dire conditions are hospitalised, 8 die after all kinds of measures, all the cars have to be ‘recycled’, ‘processed’ dealt with somehow..

    The car-loss leads to (say 60) new buys of other cars, the handicapped need new homes, equipment, funeral homes up their takings, the recyle plants earn more, etc.

    All of which leads to higher GDP figures (tally of goods and service exchanges) ….to what end?

    #228962
    Noirette
    Participant

    From Switz. RT (and many others) never banned.

    https://www.rt.com

    Not internet savvy, so maybe no use…

    #228970
    kultsommer
    Participant
    #228973
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    I tried to post a little more, but my post gave some bot a sad, and it’s been axed. Here are some clues:

    tom@keledai:~$ nslookup
    > server 1.1.1.1
    Default server: 1.1.1.1
    Address: 1.1.1.1#53
    > swentr.site
    Server: 1.1.1.1
    Address: 1.1.1.1#53

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: swentr.site
    Address: 185.79.236.174
    Name: swentr.site
    Address: 89.191.237.192
    > http://www.rt.com
    Server: 1.1.1.1
    Address: 1.1.1.1#53

    Non-authoritative answer:
    http://www.rt.com canonical name = en.wpc.rt.com.
    Name: en.wpc.rt.com
    Address: 91.215.41.4
    Name: en.wpc.rt.com
    Address: 185.79.236.174
    > exit

    tom@keledai:~$

    #228974
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Anyone able to light up a 2005 laptop in the corner of the basement in America Raul can just remote into?

    A classic “middle-manager shtick” and source of a many nightmares that smart employees had to endure.

    #228977
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    Additionally, the bot ‘helpfully’ linkified 2 domain names in the above output. The ‘http’ was added by the bot, and should not be there.

    #228983
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Third attempt to post, now with only one link.

    re: RT

    Archived copies of the present day’s RT can be found at the Wayback Machine archive[dot]org.
    Search for RT[dot]com in the Wayback Machine search line at top.
    Click on the most recent snapshot time shown on the calendar.

    Today’s result
    https://web.archive.org/web/20260124115405/https://www.rt.com/

    with links to articles like this one (from today)
    Does Russia need Greenland’s resources?

    #228987

    ooh! ooh! ooh! (Toody reference):
    Check out this tiny video from Kamchatka!
    Now THAT’s snow!!!

    It’s great to hear from you again, RIM!

    #228988
    Germ
    Participant

    Glad you’re back Raul @

    Infected folks were duped into getting vaxxed – and they knew.

    It’ll all come out eventually.
    Shame so many folks got wrecked for profit.

    #228990
    Germ
    Participant

    “Children should never have been vaccinated”

    No shit!

    https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/2014517087830491440

    #228993
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The Tehran Times says the Iranian military is ready to counterattack heavily if attacked, since “the growing consensus in Tehran is that the Trump administration must be made to pay a heavy price at home to be reined in within West Asia.”

    Statements by the Chief Commander of the IRGC and the Defense Ministry’s spokesman on Saturday affirmed that Iran’s “finger is on the trigger” and that the country possesses superior missiles and defensive capabilities compared to last summer.

    Furthermore, Reuters quoted a senior Iranian official stating that Iran is ready for the “worst-case scenario” and that any attack, however limited, will be treated as an “all-out war.”

    Iran’s Security Chief Ali Larijani previously warned that Tehran will look to kill American soldiers in the event of a new war, a measure it refrained from during previous military engagements with Washington. Approximately 40,000 to 50,000 American soldiers are stationed in West Asia, leaving them vulnerable to the Iranian missiles and drones that the country has shown it can fire by the hundreds simultaneously. The growing consensus in Tehran is that the Trump administration must be made to pay a heavy price at home to be reined in within West Asia, the Tehran Times understands.

    Another option for Iran is to constrict the flow of energy through the Strait of Hormuz, a move floated by Parliament Speaker Qalibaf this month, which would cause oil prices to skyrocket and trigger global economic repercussions. Iran has also reportedly warned its neighbors that it will strike their strategic assets if they allow the U.S. or Israel to use their airspace to attack Iran.

    Analysts say the occupied territories would also be targeted by barrages of Iranian missiles, with Israeli officials and experts warning in recent days that the regime lacks the capacity to withstand such attacks, even for the 12 days it endured back in June. According to American reports, Israel was already running out of air defense missiles during the previous confrontation.

    https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/523069/NO-anxiety-in-Tehran-as-commanders-declare-readiness-for-war

    #228998
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @DrD

    “Trump Touts “Total And Permanent” Access To Greenland, While Nobody Has Any Clue What’s In The Deal

    What the deal consists of can be deduced. Denmark gets to pretend to the world that it is continuing to own and run what is known as Greenland. Meanwhile, the United States gets to do whatever it damn well pleases on, for or with the actual island of Greenland, entire … and Denmark will not say a word about any of it or publicly complain. Good deal for the Donald and the business interests that he represents. They now have carte blanche to do anything they want in that place, totally above any earthly law, and not even pay rent.

    #229000
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Apparently the people who actually have to live there do not want to have a civil war taking place in their neighborhood, regardless of who’s on which side, and would therefore appreciate it if the White House and its mouthpieces toned down the rhetoric and stopped shooting civilians, because those actions are inciting an actual insurrection of considerable size.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/border-patrol-agent-shoots-armed-suspect-minneapolis

    #229001
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Trump is working his ass off creating the crisis conditions and chaos that made it so attractive to have a madman like that get his hands on the levers of power.

    #229002
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Why is everyone so surprised that Trump is running the Empire in the same way that he ran his televised wresting, Fake Beauty Pageants and other shady real estate and “Reality” TV scams?

    #229003
    SeaBirds
    Participant

    Welcome back Raúl!

    https://www.rt.com/ works for us in France and Germany even without a VPN.

    You should use a VPN in Holland choosing a location different from Holland, and maybe using the Tor browser might help.

    We’ll test this next week when travelling through Holland!

    #229007
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Friend

    #229017
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Russia Captured a whole PLATOON of ELITE Foreign Mercenaries and Ukrainian Soldiers

    #229018
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Poland owes Germany $1.3T for “complicity” in NordStream sabotage. Iran ready for US+Israel attack

    #229020
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #229027

    How are you doing down there in Texas, Dr. Day?

    #229029
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #229031
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #229050
    Michael Reid
    Participant

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