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    Edward Hopper The “Martha McKeen” of Wellfleet 1944   • What It Means To Be White In America (Von Hoffmeister) • Pope Francis Meets JD Vance On E
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 21 2025]

    #186508
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    ….and Pope promptly dies IAW with the 25% to 33% rule of ICUs.

    Or

    Less than 24 hours after Veep JD Hamel Vance Bowman Blanton visited The Vatican Pope Francis dies.
    Really?
    Not The Onion?
    What happened to The Babylon Bee?
    The Antichrist?

    Jesus! Holy Week too!

    How in The Hell did JD Hamel Vance Bowman BLANTON get an audience with The Pope Francis on Holy Saturday or Easter Sunday?

    #186509
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    I wonder, Scott Prinsker, Jewish surname, right?

    Lunatic and some old crust in his underwear, he is and he has respectively.

    World War III…who wants that JD’s Indians? You bet. Israel? No doubt. Trump? Well, he’s got to strike out at The World because China had nothing to do with The Ear-nicking Assassination Attempt. That’s Narcissism’s Logic like 80 year olds in an ICU so they can emerge whole again to crumple to death before The Antichrist, oops, not Scott Gottlieb but JD Vance.
    Holy God!

      Cheap (crappy) mass-produced Chinese goods are great, but American jobs are even better.

    Apt comparison and what economic class of Ppl shifted those jobs and Industries to China in first place without anyone concern for American lives and jobs?
    Suck it up those Titans of Industry, Predatory Capitalists and Modern Day Robber Barrons told the ppl.

      China is a communist dictatorship that’s ruthlessly dishonest, absolutely untrustworthy, and has become our #1 global rival. 

    Nice, Scott!
    Projection of the Inner Object State onto the opponent, victim, target.
    Dialectical?!?!?
    Diabolical.

    #186510
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Thanks for the Hopper sailing art…reminds me of sailing on Long Island Sound as a kid with my father…

    #186513
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Dollar Crashes On Powell Removal Speculation, Gold Soars To All Time High And Bitcoin Suddenly Spikes

    Right. Notice, What is gold going up? Dollar going down. Dollar going down? Trade, exports, debt. Cheap dollar = U.S competitive. Normally that would be vs the Euro, etc, but there’s trouble with this usual deflections and devaluations. And not saying this is a plan – although that would make sense – but only that what is happening does cause this.

    “Japan Posts Record Population Drop, Shrinking For 14th Year, As Demographic Crisis Deepens

    Here’s a thought: Demographics is destiny. High in 1987, not exceeded. This would make sense for the U.S. as well. However, suppose you were Japan. Suppose this was a Plan. How would you run it? You WANT the population lower, to a safe level. Maybe you prioritize the countryside so much that rural houses are now going for pennies. You know that dropping population = dropping GDP. But no riots because you MANAGED it. Lower population, kids lying flat, but it was pretty okay, really, all in all. Prosperity in daily events remains. People who want each thing have those opportunities, WANT to be a 60-hour overworked corporate? It’s there. WANT to lie flat and read anime while stitching your new furry? It’s there. WANT to be a 80 year old retired guy in the park? It’s there. WANT to have Kendo meets and national Defense? It’s there.

    Any contraction isn’t great. For whatever reasons. But comparatively, they just had a 40-year what would you call it, Great Reset, Environmental Contraction, etc. with no one noticing.

    Leaving the recent weaponization aside, the U.S. plan was different, importing the correct number such that we don’t contract and is our national history. I’m not sure which I would pick, and we had no debate, but clearly this is what was decided.

    ACLU Sues Trump Admin Over Revocation Of International Student Visas

    What was the Columbia guy they deported? He’s been an undergrad for 16 years? Yeah, uh, he was pretty well understood to be a paid agitator of secret services.

    “A Conspiracy Theory That Is Being Pushed By The Left Claims That Something Really Big Is Going To Happen Today

    Ah, figured this out. Hitler’s birthday. So therefore if they could generate an event on that day the media could make it into fascism and white supremacy again. Aaaaand nothing happened. By the law of “Nothing ever happens.”

    Also both Easter’s meet: East and West, and I think like astrology that means something.

    Americans Are Searching for “USA Products” Like Never Before

    That’s only good when Canadians do it. When Americans do it, it’s racist.

    “Germany Deploys Troops To Lithuania In First Permanent Foreign Deployment Since World War II

    Tripwire suicide brigade. And what were they, Ten Men? No tanks?

    “Biden Judge Blocks Trump’s Order Ending ‘X’ Gender Marker On Passports

    Let me guess: no law was ever passed. Biden put this in with an EO, but Trump cannot remove with an EO. …Just like the border. Allowing them in is fine, removing them by same means is not.

    Greatest Tweet: Super boring.

    “There will be a trade deal with China.”

    Well sure, someday.

    ““China wins a trade war with the U.S.” — Jeffrey Sachs”

    I don’t know what you mean by this. You mean when we’re done, the U.S. will have 1) collapsed, or 2) Signed an even WORSE deal than the present one with China? No, and no. You have the Feelz, and you Feelz like you wish Donald would lose. So you just say it happened! All done now!

    Movie: Guess what? Trump is just a normal guy who grew up, does things, and eats carrots. LIKE HITLER. Hitler ate literal carrots, don’t be Hitler.

    “Donald will never win”

    There is no Donald. He’s a collective, like all such leaders. The idea is to focus on one guy, like Hitler, like Churchill, which is why the always REDUCE all issues to “Saddam” and “Putler”. So dumb.

    Kickbacks: So we’re going to arrest Romney, Graham, and Crenshaw now, right?

    Empty containers: Might want to not go with clickbait on that, it’s muddying things. I feel dumber at the end than at the beginning.

    Remember the “Strikes” they said was already a trade halt bc they wouldn’t take our crappy bonds and needed a cover story? New story, a wider one. Trade halts because worldwide settlement currency is in dispute, but if they admit that, the US$ will collapse, everyone panic-sells, and everybody dies.

    Population Map:
    Doesn’t that seem like a most serious risk, not a strength though?

    “• What It Means To Be White In America (Von Hoffmeister)

    He’s adopting the thought and vocabulary of his enemy. There is no “White”. Not in the sense they mean. Using it keeps this illusion and disorder going.

    How do I know? A half white person is “Black” A ¾ white person is “black”. A 3 generation American is “White” while his grandparents in Mexico are “Not White”. If he moves in from Spain, he is “White”. If he spends a year in Costa Rica first, he is “Not white”. Musk is pure African, African born and raised, and White. Bosnian Muslims are “White”, speaking no English. Creoles and PNW Blue-hairs are both White, but speak different languages that are not mutually intelligible. But we’re all bored, fill in as many more thousand examples as you please.

    • Russia Will Attack In A ‘Couple Of Years’ – Estonian FM (RT)

    Says you. Okay great: what’s the plan? Because I could care less. May I suggest getting off their oil and gas and not pissing them off all the time?

    ““if [Russian President Vladimir] Putin would like to test NATO in our region, I think that the cost for him will be very high”

    Ah, so your plan is to Piss him off daily, then make US fight it. Got it. Is this not what Vance/Ze were discussing recently? No, no one remembers? Not in the news?

    ““What’s going on here, I think it’s important to understand, is that the Supreme Court is already signaling that they’re very sympathetic to the Trump administration,” Yoo said.

    In what way? They keep ruling against him.

    What’s happening is, like Chevron (I mis stated that as Exxon) Rule, they are cleverly taking the most arcane, fine-print readings of the law. Such that the Left thinks they’re winning, as the stay order, and then finding some loophole everyone head-scratches at that actually rules for Trump and some…progress if you want to call it that. But a change in the status quo. I disagree with this method and we want to be just, logical, and correct. However, no one in D.C. is and they’ll burst into flames if you try it.

    “Russian expert says Easter truce was prepared well in advance

    No one can just be normal for a second? Putin would like to give the troops the day off, but he can’t. So he does this. Maybe the other side won’t attack for a few hours, and that would be nice, but probably not. But at least his own Generals don’t have to give deployment orders for a day or two if they can help it. Of COURSE that is a benefit to Russia’s own self and men. Signals they care, they are aware of tradition and holidays, still attempting peace. These are all the things one should do. No amazing master plan. No nefarious 5D oriental chess.

    “• Trump Faces Self-Imposed Deadline To Make Scores Of Trade Deals (JTN)

    Maybe so. We don’t know what’s in them. One thing: they would RE-Buy US Bonds as sort of a sideline, a “Say thanks” of goodwill, and we may need this. There are 50-year gold backed bonds being discussed, and Cullom among others is like “That’s not “backed’, I’ll promise you the planet Jupiter 50 years from now”, totally correct. Ah, but what if we shove Canada’s head under the Bay of Fundy and MAKE them buy them? How about now? You MIGHT get the gold in 50 years, but that’s not the point, is it? And it doesn’t have to be a nefarious cheat: we GOT here via nefarious cheat, but to go back to honesty we can 1) Have a worldwide collapse where everybody dies or 2) FORCE them to knock out the Fed/Fiat legs and FORCE them to re-establish the gold standard, section by section, the same way it was removed. Your choice, are you done being wet now and like breathing?

    “let’s (carefully) vacate our bunkers and survey the dreadful damage: Hmm… Disruption has been minimal.”

    Yes because none of the TALK actually happened. “When all is said and done, more is said than done.” The media hasn’t stopped reporting the Thing-That-Never-Happened yet though. They’re in an air tight fart bubble.

    “One of the lessons of the COVID pandemic was the importance of nationalizing critical supply chains, so we’re no longer dependent on foreign rivals for medicine, food, and technology.”

    Note not we, nor anyone, took a single action in this, in any way. Even Puerto Rico was down (our other pharma) and we didn’t bother to turn the electric back on. Still off, I think. That guy saying he’d open a factory for masks? Still no gov’t contract that was merely to LOCK IN the orders over time, such that he could buy the equipment and not go bankrupt. Filthy capitalist. Doesn’t he know he should produce them for free, then have all his employees out on the street when he collapses? That’s how good Socialists do it, uncaring of markets.

    Anyway, nada thing.

    “Last week 57% of Americans supported Trump’s immigration policies. This week it “tanked” to 54%.”

    This is my impression. Following blue hairs online, they are all-in for “Nobody voted for any of this!!!! Aiiiiiii!!!!!!”, immigration, DOGE, trade, etc. No, actually, everyone did. It may or may not be your plan, it may or may not work, but for a change – first since I can remember – a President SAID he would do a thing, got in, and tried to do it.

    “the Court issued unprecedented and legally questionable relief without giving the lower courts a chance to rule..”

    Although they SHOULD do this (say USSC ruling on Texas vs 2020 election) they NEVER do. So this is the one time in 100 years they leap-frog the lower courts?

    “Germany should donate 30% of its available armored vehicles and military aircraft to Kiev,”

    For free, of course. Ze just popped up like a gopher in Hee-Haw and said he wanted every Patriot Missile Battery in the U.S. inventory. He would “Pay” for them, of course. Okay, cash is accepted, I guess? Yeah, Trump said no, because Ukraine won’t exist in July. Check’s in the mail.

    Anyway, great way to dispose of those Leopards that never worked, but worst military plan since Lindesfarne. I’ve said every day for 3 years, sending one tank at a time, and it’s getting pretty late to send enough to matter anywhere. It’s like D-Day, except that we send a couple fishing boats and a jeep on a catamaran, and ya know, just kinda see what happens when we land, and take it from there.

    Again, all of this was a TRIPWIRE force. It was always and only meant to cause Russian attacks, and Ukrainian deaths. And it was all meant ONLY to escalate to a nuclear exchange. Which would only be run by the U.S. on our side, as the Def Minister just demonstrated in real time British subs that shoot missiles only blow up themselves. And British ships that leave the harbor, only turn around to port.

    How are they going to get their EIGHT whole guns onto the continent?

    Hegseth: again, neither of these make any sense. Esp back to back. Then lo, some people were fired for leaking. Related? Too complex to tell, hard to think so.

    ““Obviously, everybody in this country, even those undocumented immigrants, have rights.”

    Do they though? What do you mean? A lot of these Rights seem to be “We claim jurisdiction over all citizens worldwide.” And saying a President can’t expel a foreign national because he merely wishes to. Whether he SHOULD or not is different – I’m not at all sure he should in any but the worst cases – but I fail to see why he CAN’T. They are not visitors, they are guests. We told them the party’s over and pushed them out the door, safely getting them HOME, to their country, where they live. Not in MY country, where they don’t live.

    • MSNBC Suggests Trump Plans to Deport African-Americans (Bartee)

    Where are my cattle cars? I was promised cattle cars. And margaritas with salt. No matter how many weeks in a row this never happens, it makes not a whit of difference at all. Ever. Totally immune.

    So this Hitler, with a Jewish family and a Slavic, immigrant wife, flanked by an African, a Hindu, and a Gay Treasury secretary, is going to round up the Jews, the Slavs, the immigrants, the non-Christians, and the gays. Again.

    https://www.theradicalist.com/p/is-woke-a-mental-disorder

    I guess for consideration. Actual science.

    Forgot to ask: Whaaaaa with Poilivere and Carney. Like I read as Poliever pimp-handing Carney as the secret origin of all Trudeau’s (Canada’s) problems. Like election-winner and Carney just mumbles, looking offstage for his handlers. What’s the take in Canada?

    #186514
    zerosum
    Participant

    Pope Francis has died aged 88.
    What’s next?
    ————

    “Our political system is in a state of collapse.”— Jeffrey Sachs
    What’s next?

    https://x.com/upholdreality/status/1913733871155257356?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1913733871155257356%7Ctwgr%5Ed18bd0f405212580c0c3a28b3973072845a0e0c1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theautomaticearth.com%2F2025%2F04%2Fdebt-rattle-april-21-2025%2F

    So what? What’s next?
    ————–
    • Trump Faces Self-Imposed Deadline To Make Scores Of Trade Deals (JTN)

    “Trump has promised that tariffs will help increase federal revenue, restore manufacturing jobs lost to lower-wage countries in decades past, and shift the tax burden away from U.S. families.”

    A tariff is a tax on imported goods.
    The importer pays the tax and can either absorb the loss or pass the tax on to consumers in the form of higher prices.
    A tariff is an income for the gov.
    ———–
    What’s next?
    • Ukrainian Envoy Asks For 30% Of Germany’s Military Equipment (RT)

    ———–

    Easter Truce Over – Fighting Resumed – Tough Week Ahead – Military Summary And Analysis For 2025.04.21

    ————-

    #186515
    tboc
    Participant

    western implementation of Sharia Law:
    We have stolen everything you or your progeny have or will ever possess and now we will cut off both of your hands for theft.

    as an aside, i was informed Saturday evening at dinner that Time Magazine is a valuable source of accurate information. Time is even more accurate than The Atlantic, it was stated.

    One sideways glance and one sentence later the diiner gathering ended.
    “not as good as i once was
    but as good once as i ever was”

    seems some folks can’t remember the Court ruling on Citizens United.
    An active conservative court? “Get outta Dodge blackie, we don’t like your kind around here”

    what was it Aaron Bushnell said? or Sophie Scholl?

    what a deal, Sachs understands the difference between production and consumption. A reality unfathomable to our premier capitalist.

    #186516
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    I see a pattern emerging.
    I can’t unsee it.

    A. On July 13, 2024 Trump was shot in Butler Pennsylvania and July 15, 2024 JD Vance BLANTON was named Trump’s running mate.

    B. Easter weekend JD Vance Hamel had an audience with Francis, Pope and The Leader of The Catholics keeled over within (what was it like?) 24 to 48 hours later not so soon after bilateral pneumococcal? pneumonia put the Pope into an ICU, respiratory failure, multiple organ system failure. Which advisor to The Pope thought it safe for him to see JD?

    C. Col. Susan Meyers gets Fired within days after meeting The Veep Vance at the base she commands, Pituffik Space Base in Greenland. Well, Susan didn’t die yet but give it time. There’s still time.

    D. John Murtha died within a few days of penning me a personal letter. In that letter, Murtha promised to inquire, investigate and bring to justice those officers, sailors and Lockheed employees who corrupted the Navy’s medical board program (think disability) to benefit their own bank accounts and Lockheed’s/ QTC’s bottomline. Of course the Navy, had to butcher Murtha’s bowel during “routine cholecystectomy” procedure at NNMC Bethesda. Word is JD Vance was nowhere near Jack Murtha. Lockheed, QTC and the Navy still haven’t change their minds yet that there’s only one bad guy in the Disability Debacle.

    #186518
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Apparently, the Supreme Court does not think any of the immigration laws on the books are Due Process.

    Their ruling is an announcement that immigration laws are the OPPOSITE of due process.

    No, arriving on the NGO transportation/logistics network expressly for the purpose of using immigration as a disruptive weapon against the United States, THIS is due process.

    ..because clearly even the written immigration laws plus the written laws defining how the government works, what powers each branch has, what responsibilities they are to execute, are NOTHING compared to NGO’s funneling hordes into the country. NGO’s > Constitution – says Supreme Court.

    So why not change your flags in court from those gold tasseled US ones to the globohomo flag? You just pledged your allegiance. What internationalist NGO’s controlled by Ivy Leauge graduate, NYT reading Inter-Nationalist Socialist trust fund babies have wrought, let no one put asunder.

    #186519
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    It’s hard to believe the distinction, disparity and dichotomy.

      The fact that China is the US’s largest foreign creditor is uncomfortable for both parties
      Donald Trump did not expect this and on April 13, he granted exemptions from the high tariffs on smartphones, computers and some other electronic devices. In other words, he caved, or as the Americans like to say, “He blinked first.”

      If you ask someone what percentage of Chinese exports go to the US, they will quote 30%-40%, expressing that the Chinese are dependent on the American market. In truth, China sends just under 15% of their exports to the US. China has been around for 5,000 years – the US for just over 200 years. If no agreement is reached, the Chinese will reposition the 15% and the US will lose a huge basket of great products with a great price/performance ratio. Ultimately, you have to ask yourself: who has the greater capacity for suffering – the Chinese, who think in decades, or the Americans, who think in quarters?

    https://sonar21.com/everything-is-possible-unfortunately/

    #186520
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    No GMO corn in Europe is trade manipulation??

    Maybe the Europeans just don’t like the flavor of glyphosate..

    #186521
    jb-hb
    Participant

    We must compete with Europe by erecting similar anti GMO “barriers” here at home!

    Surely, the only way! Take THAT, Europe!

    (sigh whatever works..)

    #186522
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Jb-hb

    I like that train of thought!

    #186523
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Jeffrey Sachs may be correct.
    On the other hand, he sounds like someone with TDS who has decided that Trump is “Orange Man Bad.” In that state of mind, it is difficult to weigh exigent realities without bias creeping in.

    #186525
    Dr D Rich
    Participant
      “Free Palestine!”
    #186526
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I like due process. However, I feel taken advantage of when the Biden admin funnels money to NGOs, who ferry foreigners to our borders, (simultaneously handing out kickbacks to US politicians,) the aliens claim that they are fleeing danger, are admitted with asylum hearings years away, then granted free benefits (food, housing, medical care) plus work permits, and the US is obligated to keep them here for years until a hearing occurs, which the foreigner will likely fail to attend. This sounds like a system that is designed for children, not for adults. I do not think that it is unfair to give an adult foreigner a less “pretty” option: you can stay in this internment location where you will be obligated to contribute some hours of labor each week towards running the facility and towards the resources that you consume, you can be deported back to your home country, you can appeal to a US citizen to sponsor you and enter the country under the sponsorship of that citizen, or you can apply to a third country while waiting on your asylum claim. People who show up at our border do not, merely by the fact of their existence, have an automatic claim on the right to live and work freely in the US. I have no desire to encarcerate them, but, seriously, what were they thinking?

    #186527
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Ultimately, you have to ask yourself: who has the greater capacity for suffering – the Chinese, who think in decades, or the Americans, who think in quarters?

    Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland, St Louis, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Rochester, Gary, Toledo, Hartford, Scranton, Memphis, Buffalo, Dayton, Flint, Newark, Decatur, Camden…

    Could I go on and on? Yes.

    In an earlier age, could the list of cities have been imagined as a cheerful song in a musical, hey, we’ve got so many cities! Affection towards one’s particular hometown, etc? Or in the 80’s, a song affectionately listing off American cities that “rock,” the crowd cheering for their city when it comes around in concert?

    Does it also sound like the list going out over loudspeakers in The Day After, cities that got hit by nukes?

    I don’t give a damn about making China suffer. They ought to be able to make things for themselves and have a nice midcentury lifestyle, live in some of those nice ghost city luxury dwellings, drive around cars with giant fins maybe.

    #186528
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt, a German pathologist, presents an unsettling slide show revealing that in vaccinated males, the spike protein from the COVID vaccine has entirely replaced their sperm

    What an ingenious way of culling weakness from the gene pool without actually hurting anyone.

    #186529
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Ultimately, you have to ask yourself: who has the greater capacity for suffering – the Chinese, who think in decades, or the Americans, who think in quarters?

    Well, if you’re going to use big all-inclusive words like “ultimately” then you’ve got to include a third demographic, Christians, who think in eternities and know that suffering is the price of admission.

    #186530
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #186532
    jb-hb
    Participant

    If illegal aliens cannot be sent back to their homes, because NOTHING wrong is happening when they are moved across continents in multi hundred billion dollar programs and nothing wrong is happening when the “Joe Biden” admin flies and busses them to our hometowns…

    Then they should be gathered up and continually deposited on the doorsteps of the Supreme Court justices. A continual stream of busses depositing more wherever they go.

    Prioritized with alleged gang members first. Because those are the ones they want to retain the MOASTEST. They should get the most benefit from the most special ones they especially want to keep, right?

    HOW can they object? NOTHING bad is happening.

    How can criminal foreign elements be shoehorned into the hotel 100 ft away from my home (we refer to it now as The Stabmore) against the wishes of essentially everyone in the neighborhood, but NOT Supreme Court Justices?

    When they know better than anyone how nothing is happening and there’s nothing bad about it?

    Can’t leave the country doesn’t mean can’t be moved around the country. IF it becomes Wrong sir, Wrong to move them across the country, do all “Joe Biden’s” movings become illegal and reversible?

    I want to hear Supreme Court justices articulate what is wrong with it happening in THEIR neighborhood and not mine. Please do explain and be specific.

    If nothing is wrong with it, then they should be happy with this endless stream of humanity wherever they go until the end of time. With many millions here to gather up and deposit, there need NEVER be an end to it. And that’s a good thing.

    #186533
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Supreme Court Justice: “..but you’re cynically using the movement of human beings and our inherent idea of their personal rights and taking advantage of our norms of politeness and standards of civility to attack us.”

    Racists!

    #186534
    Dora
    Participant

    Jeffrey Sachs has a remarkable talent for seeming always to keep one finger in the wind. I’ve lost count the number of times he’s seemed to do a 180 degree turn from his prior statements. He has kept a long career going. Maybe that’s the secret to a long career in a political field. (Economics is a political field.)

    #186535
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    I see another pattern

    (((Businessmen)))) are bad.
    ((((Businessmen)))) are the problem…..
    ……with everything they touch from Universities/Education to Healthcare to The Witkoff Syndrome infecting Geopolitics to DoD Disability programs

    How can Ron Unz not see the pattern?

    A. Ron writes:

      Harvard had gradually transformed itself from a great academic center of learning into an enormous hedge fund with some sort of small school or something attached off to one side.

    ….but those hedge fund managers and a few Harvard VIPs made out like bandits.

    B. Healthcare or more aptly named, NonHealthcare

      The report zeroes in on the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center (UPMC), a health care behemoth that now owns more than $2 billion in tax-exempt property in Allegheny County alone.

      The investigation by The Lever reveals how nonprofit hospital giants are dodging taxes, hoarding land and influencing elections — while giving back less to communities than they take in subsidies.

    C. Geopolitics at the grubby hands of Businessman Steve Witkoff

      President Putin does not want an alignment with Chinese President Xi Jinping, it’s not a natural fit for Russia to be strategically networking with China.  Put a simpler way, Putin really doesn’t like Chairman Xi because Russia values brutal honesty in relationships, not the Beijing cunningness, ulterior motives and manipulative self-interest.

    Envoy Steve Witkoff Gives Topline Review Following 5 Hour Meeting with Vladimir Putin

    D. Lest we forget The $2,000,000,000 Lockheed Corpse paid for Anthony Principi’s QTC that used the free as cheap labor illegally of active duty doctors moonlighting with hands up the skirt of a certain Navy Nurse. “You hurt the Good Dr. May”

    Businessmen….MBAs almost each and every one

    #186536
    Topcat
    Participant

    Wealth is a funny thing when viewed over generational time.

    Lot’s of blah, blah, blah opinions, very little actually consideration of the reality of human hubris.

    #186537
    Topcat
    Participant

    #186538
    Topcat
    Participant

    Speaking of Death and Demographics

    Don’t marry the Vaxed if you want a family.

    “an unsettling slide show revealing that in vaccinated males, the spike protein from the COVID vaccine has entirely replaced their sperm…”

    Nothing but blanks….

    Like Japan, too depressed to screw with reckless abandon…..

    So who really did kill the most offspring?

    Be honest….

    #186539
    Topcat
    Participant

    Humans are pitiful

    Europeans especially

    No adults in sight

    Bedtime story time

    #186540
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #186543
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #186544
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #186545
    Topcat
    Participant

    China Is In Economic Dire Straits And They’re No Longer Able To Hide It

    “Official economic data from any government is always treated with suspicion by anyone with common sense…….

    Biden’s misrepresentation of the labor market, portraying millions of new jobs for illegal migrants and visa holders as if they were jobs benefiting American citizens. In the US and across the western world, lying about the economy is generally seen by politicians as a temporary solution to secure reelection.”

    … in China, lying about the economy is treated as a national security imperative. If there’s anything in the world that gives communists a feeling of existential dread, it’s the fear that their ideological enemies will discover proof that communism doesn’t work.”

    #186546
    Dr. D
    Participant

    What is this in the Sonar article? Don’t make me do a 10-hour research dive to debunk this rot. “China is 5,000 years.” And? So is Greece, Egypt, but also Mexico, Bali, India, Congo, heck, Scotland, Minnesota…what does that mean? They’re the same culture? Not even, go look. Same name? Nope also, the “Chin” people are only one of many, the name is not continuous. It. Is. PR. Words might as well not be spoken, “Signifying nothing.”

    I’m not exactly sure China is our largest holder. They used to be. Even if still listed, (I think they’re half the next size, which may be Japan) they’ve been offloading T’s as PROMISES. That is, give me cobalt today on a 10 year contract, and we’ll pay in Bonds 10 years from now. So in a sense, they are no longer China’s, they are already converted into railroads, mines. Sitting in a folder, waiting to be mailed. I still think it’s not much, in fact only this week Luongo said Europe had twice China’s.

    Using his DonaldTelepathy he knows everything Donald has ever thought or intends to think. Donald got in a plan, but there was only ONE path, not a single if-then logical branch anywhere on it! So there was only “All this” or “Oops!” Yuppers, a well-known negotiator for 50 years, who knew his secret weakness was that all you had to do was say no? Nobody ever tried that before! He’s totally flat-footed! Never occurred to him!

    Naturally, since he had to branch into Plan F, G, or H, this is what we call, “Totally losing” not playing forward well-known, much-traveled chess moves. –Or even that this was always the plan, bc China is IN on it. Because whoever had a negotiation that had more than two moves? That’s just RE-DONK-U-lous. No negotiator has ever thought that far before.

    THIS Is what’s passing for commentary. Or even normal thought. Everyone nods their heads and goes “Uh-huh, Uh-huh, I will call him, Ge-ORGE.”
    Toons

    Then it is Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllll known that China is dodging all rules, worldwide, by re-importing everywhere on the planet. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY SAID BY TRUMP. So then he immediately quotes “Acktshully! It’s only 15%.” Uh-huh.

    Okay, wise -ss, take it from MY side of the ledger, that I can check. APPARENTLY, Acktshully, everything I pick up, everywhere in America is made in China. It says so on the bottom. So calculate ALLLLL the goods sold in America, and see if that adds up to your 15%. No. It does not. There are people elsewhere, we don’t have to be half, but 30% is more like in the realm of this universe.

    Double spot check: if none of our goods are made by China, who are they made by, genius? Us? That’s the WHOLE POINT of the war! “Acktshully, you didn’t notice this but we at Hahhhh-vahhhd, have found America Already makes all our own goods, and Ehhhhverywhone is acktshully employed. OMB. So there. ”

    What the literal. Now you make me waste my time on this when I could be plunging a toilet or something clean and useful compared to these monkeys.

    #186547
    zerosum
    Participant

    Old news Published: Dec 2, 2024
    Lab Leak: The True Origins of Covid-19

    FINAL REPORT: COVID Select Concludes 2-Year Investigation, Issues 500+ Page Final Report on Lessons Learned and the Path Forward

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/lab-leak-true-origins-of-covid-19/

    House Oversight ReportDownloaD
    Content on this page sourced from the House Oversight Committee website, a Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability in the U.S. House of Representatives.

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/final-report-covid-select-concludes-2-year-investigation-issues-500-page-final-report-on-lessons-learned-and-the-path-forward/

    Nobody has yet to be held accountable

    #186548
    zerosum
    Participant

    China is going down.
    USA is going down.
    We are in a pot of water on the stove.
    Are we dumb frogs with no escape?

    #186551
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    You’re right, D.
    You convinced me….in a very disorganized way.

    Where are all the T-bills?
    Who holds the Debt? You know the (((answer))))

    D and the common TAEer: “Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllll known that China is dodging all rules” but no one can know the greatest id on display in the entire Universe. Maybe I got id confused with ego.

    China bad

    Crushed that StrawMan didn’t you D:
    “Using his DonaldTelepathy he knows everything Donald has ever thought or intends to think.”
    Threw in a whole lot of Projection too.

    I think StrawMan can be very appealing, even more entertaining AND highly persuasive in court when employed against the knaves on the bench.

    “War” you said it D.

    This time it’s Bankers and Businessman’s War with emphasis on the latter and led by a bunch of ConMen wielding The Art of the Deal and enlivened by a bunch of sickos chasing a buck.

    When did this War start btw?
    September 2019 with Overnight Repo operations?
    Or December 2019 with double tap of COVID and Quantitative Easing redux?

    Europe and Japan and China hold a lot of T-bills
    Okay got it.
    Those numbers should be highly classified in a Banker’s n Businessman’s War and certainly more important than SecDef Hegseth’s email musings about Houthi annihilations.

    #186559
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Napoleon and awakening the sleeping Dragon.

    When did the war start? 1971 with Nixon.
    1989 with Bush.
    1992 with Clinton.

    My read is it’s been on this long. IF the U.S. is at the top and needs to be shorted, THEN they need a new ship to pirate and bid up. Don’t believe they don’t think that far ahead because hundreds of White Papers from Think Tanks say they do. So they were supposed to be conquering China from within by now, but it’s not working out and they’re screwed.

    Glad for that, but that’s not the point. When did the war start? They were on the Trade War in I dunno, when was Congress ordering China to re-value their currency? 2004? That was stunning, press had no sense of what that implied, of course. China then maneuvered using other leverage to “Twist” into/out of Fannie and Freddie — all illegally of course, but we were being ordered around by then at that time. Exact same thing as this Trade War/Not Trade war, except for the lying about it.

    There’s a war about it? Yes, every day since 1971. What makes today different? And if we lost the last 2-3 rounds, and have no ships, what makes today different? We’re going to land and occupy them? Or them, us?

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