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    Paul Cézanne Forest 1902-04   • Asymptomatic Transmission Of COVID19 (BMJ) • Makers of Successful COVID19 Vaccines Wrestle With Placebo Recipient
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    #67259
    Doc Robinson
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    Makers of Successful COVID19 Vaccines Wrestle With Placebo Recipients (Science)

    How can the mRNA vaccine trials (Pfizer and Moderna) be considered “blind” when “approximately 80–89% of vaccinated persons develop at least one local symptom and 55–83% develop at least one systemic symptom.” Most people who got the vaccine will know that they didn’t get the placebo, because of how their bodies react to the shots.

    Before vaccination, providers should counsel mRNA COVID-19 vaccine recipients about expected local (e.g., pain, swelling, erythema at the injection site, localized axillary lymphadenopathy on the same side as the vaccinated arm) and systemic (e.g., fever, fatigue, headache, chills, myalgia, arthralgia) post-vaccination symptoms. Depending on vaccine product (Pfizer vs. Moderna), age group, and vaccine dose, approximately 80–89% of vaccinated persons develop at least one local symptom and 55–83% develop at least one systemic symptom following vaccination.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html

    #67260
    zerosum
    Participant

    Lalaland exists for the pigs
    Our legal/social/economic systems has been structured by the enablers so that all transactions, the pigs,(enablers), can feed at the pig trough with impunity.
    WE have been told, in the bible, that the systems existed 2,000 years ago.(3 kings, money changers)
    Yet, we have not been able to change it.

    Trump – stimulus $600.00 vs $2,000.00
    Lockdown
    Vaccine
    Christmas

    Be grateful that a nurse is not asking about your bowl movement.

    Enjoy a Merry Christmas everyone.

    #67261

    …80–89% of vaccinated persons develop at least one local symptom and 55–83% develop at least one systemic symptom…

    But we can’t wait to give the placebo group the vaccine. It wouldn’t be fair to leave them out in the cold. Very little about these trials makes any sense to me.

    #67262

    Perspective AND a sign of the times: EU and UK finally carve out a Brexit deal, and the BBC shows Cars3.

    #67263
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The Russian vaccine Sputnik V has made it to the Americas:

    Argentina Approves Russian Vaccine With Plane Waiting in Moscow
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-23/argentina-approves-russian-vaccine-with-plane-awaiting-in-moscow

    Looking at the trial results for different vaccines, for an indication of which are most effective at preventing severe cases of COVID-19:

    Pfizer vaccine did not totally prevent severe cases of COVID.
    “There were 10 severe cases of COVID-19 observed in the trial, with nine of the cases occurring in the placebo group and one in the BNT162b2 vaccinated group.”

    Moderna: no severe cases.
    “Five participants who received mRNA-1273 developed COVID-19, but none of those cases were severe. There were 11 cases of severe disease in the placebo cohort, as well as 79 infections that manifested in milder symptoms.”

    AstraZeneca/Oxford: no severe cases.
    “…no severe cases and no hospitalisations more than 21 days after first injection…[nor after receiving two doses of the vaccine]”

    Sputnik V: no severe cases.
    “The vaccine demonstrated 100% efficacy against severe coronavirus cases. There were 20 severe cases of coronavirus infection among confirmed cases in the placebo group and no severe cases in the vaccine group.”

    #67264
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Operation Moonshot” to roll out mass testing” …that will “Moonshot” the “infected” numbers. …And sell lots of product. #Winning.

    Mo
    https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C4E12AQHWMV4m5jTcbQ/article-cover_image-shrink_720_1280/0/1567866682895?e=1614211200&v=beta&t=HQ4WeWS3pVylMhVq1op93A7VUDgDX4ClA8LwnLxeMEo

    “when every last cent of their money was spent. The fix-it-up chap packed up…and he went.”

    Oh wait: not a prediction. They ALREADY did mass testing, and ALREADY got massive positives with a 100:1 increases in cases…but not hospitalizations. Ching!!

    “Infectious one to two days before the onset of symptoms”

    That’s odd: how would you know that? Virology of hundreds of healthy people in the hopes that one day they get it? Probably.

    Science time: What does “Infectious” mean? 99% chance of killing anyone you meet? 50%? 5%? 1%? There’s a single virus particle somewhere in the room? This is like setting the PCR threshold: What do you WANT the answer to be? We’ll fix the numbers accordingly.

    “withholding a working vaccine…”

    Except it’s NOT a vaccine. In the usual sense of the word. It also doesn’t protect you, according to themselves, AND won’t allow you to be immune, nor change your behavior, like not wearing masks. All it does is collect money, apparently.

    Why would I get a vaccine that doesn’t protect me even from THIS strain, AND they claim, before the vial is even warm, that it already is useless against UK and S. Africa?

    ** Describe anatomical act here **

    Oh wait: Although they only INVENTED the UK strain on Monday, they ALREADY say it isn’t real: it’s neither more infectious nor more deadly. Which is obvious, because no one could know that already. That is to say,

    ************** T H E Y ’ R E L Y I N G **************

    But you knew that because medical professionals opened their eyes in the morning and their lips moved. …And my beef here: other medical professionals didn’t lambaste them publicly and call to pull their medical license unless they shut up and follow science.

    Trump Pardons Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Charles Kushner, 23 Others (JTN)”

    Gag. I wouldn’t pardon Manafort, I’d go arrest every other lobbyist in K-Street who’d also done what he did. …And then all non-violent Federal drug offenders. You need a public army.

    Reports say Donald Trump has lost it. Unable to face the reality”

    I have no idea where they get this stuff. “17 unnamed agencies”? He’s furious over tiny hands? Download and listen to one Trump session with the public. He’s constantly telling jokes, very often at his own expense. It’s like choose-your-own fact, reality-optional world. After 4, 5, 12 years of this, still no nuttin’. All things are bad. All things are false. He is always “Furious”, “Lashing out” in an “unhinged” “rant”, “Attack”. Meanwhile, Bush and Brian Williams (Live from the Moon), talk about the “Beautiful (Peace) bombs” when you ACTUALLY invade, bomb, murder, kill, and steal a hundred thousand kids at a pop. Albright sez “It was sooooo worth it.” That’s NOT furious. That’s NOT an attack. That’s pure love and tolerance of another new slave market being born. Gag.

    “There’s only one thing that prevents the US from attacking Russia: their weapons are far more sophisticated.”

    Nah. Since the leadership WANTS the whole U.S. dead and they can get to underground bunkers, this wouldn’t stop them in the slightest. I mean: look at Baltimore, Chicago, and Detroit. They’re more leveled than IF Russia had bombed them. They got the pure love of Socialism, “helping” writ large.

    “3,800 people shot in Chicago through end of November as violence spikes 50% from last year

    Police reported 716 murders through the end of November, a 54% increase from the 464 murders during the same time last year.”
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/12/1/21755116/chicago-police-department-crime-statistics-shooting-murder-homicide-gun-violence-november-2020

    But Black Lives don’t matter. If they live in any Democrat city. Thankfully, Chicago is a gun-free zone, unlike New Hampshire which has near-zero shootings.

    YES!!!!!!!! They will kill every man, woman and child in America!!!!! They already do!!!!

    Biden Threats Make Russia Discourse More Reckless, Dangerous (Greenwald)”

    We’ve reached the point where it’s impossible to make this stupider than it is. So RUSSIA now has hacked us and interfered in the election. Right. To INSTALL Joe Biden in all the key states, apparently. No, to help Trump…hurt Trump…nevermind Trump…Joe Foevah…RussiaRussiaRussia, it all makes sense, shutupandtakemymoney!

    Qe
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    Makes sense, since Russia is everywhere. Like God. Or Elvis.

    DNC Was “Directly Involved” In Iowa Caucus App Development (IC)”

    Progressives. I have no words for you, since YOU let this happen, applauded it, rolled over, and now you have NOT one person in the whole administration, and NO floor vote for anything. Pelosi gave the Committee position to the first NeoLib who demanded, and NOT YOU. …As any pot-smoking, nightclub, 2nd rate, Jimmy Dore would tell you. …FOR FOUR YEARS straight.

    They’re not done yet. As victims, they love losing. It’s their way, their whole identity. What can I say? Game played badly. Now if you’d be strategic and WIN, you’d joins sides with Cheeto on $2,000/ppl or MORE, force the vote you want with REPUBLICANS, who don’t care as long as it doesn’t pass, and have the PEOPLE take out the ESTABLISHMENT. But no. Orange Man Bad. We must, must, must lose. It’s just too important. …Orange man whose supporters are ex-Bernie Bros, ex-Obama-voters, you silly-billies.

    Take out Pelosi, RUN the party, install your OWN primary rigging, THEN turn and attack Orange Man. Maybe you need to smoke more. Whatever Jimmy’s smoking.

    “Biden has vaguely promised to push more aid”

    As per above, Biden is AGAINST $2,000, AGAINST Social Security, and pretty clearly AGAINST Medicare-for-All. His cabinet is clearly AGAINST the entire Progressive cause, purpose, ethos, and peoples. They are pretty clearly PRO war, PRO Flint water, PRO $10T for insiders.

    Nope. Orange Man Bad. Biden yay! He’s installed a Dick Cheney and a Don Rumsfeld with a vagina! Worst. Ever. Didn’t think we could get to levels like this, even WITH Progressives,you know, being young, and of course totally, totally credulous of everything they’re told.

    Pointing out again – not than anyone cares, or there is the slightest fig leaf of a law around here – that Medicare-for-All is totally illegal. Unconstitutional. …You need an amendment or it has to be done at the state level (where it immediately bankrupted everyone). See 10A.

    “The Lancet Publishes German Doctors’ Report”

    Stopped reading at “The Lancet”. It’s false. That’s what happens when you destroy your credibility by publishing false reports fabricated in headline news by adult actors, that kill people. Wait, everyone else already forgot? And all the other false things they’ve published for years? Goldfish.

    #67265
    Geppetto
    Participant
    #67267

    Ilhan Omar thinks it’s wrong for politicians to get the first vaccines- that’s why she won’t take it.
    Wish I could pull that sneaky trick.

    Marvelous logic! When did you stop beating your wife?
    You can tell people are confused- there was a commenter on CSPAN’s “Washington Journal” this morning who wants those who aren’t playing the game to “suffer and die” by withholding the vaccine. {!!!} There were other similar sentiments.
    Others say privilege should play no part in getting it first.
    And, bless his heart, one gentleman suggested old folks homes -like Congress- should get it as they are more at risk of dying from this disease that kills 0.01% of those who get it.

    And on ZH, the WHO deletes naturally acquired immunity from its website.

    The PCR testing’s a terrible fraud committed by people who want to play GOD,
    And those who would trust them are playing along in the murder of millions who did them no wrong.

    #67268
    John Day
    Participant

    Geppetto: Thanks for the made-in-heaven Rothschild-Vatican mrriage-of-convenience article by Engdahl.
    The “asymptomatic spread” question is obfuscated bythe article above, which employs multiple definitions, mainly defined retrospectively.
    The important point, completely fogged out, is that the most spread seems to happen in the 2 days before to the first 2 days of symptoms, when symptoms are absent or mild.
    It spreads invisibly. That’s the point.

    Daisy Luther, The Organic Prepper, a good and thoughtful writer, is just starting her slow return to normal life. This is like a lot of the people I see, because I don’t see so many people with very mild illness. They don’t go to doctors much, unless their job makes them go.I Had Covid for 17 Days. Here’s What It Was Like.
    https://www.theorganicprepper.com/covid-personal-story/#comment-1007880

    #67269
    John Day
    Participant

    More Augury https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/12/more-augury.html

    Pepe Escobar interviews an astrologer, which you might already be tired of, but astrology is a pretty open format to discuss grand sweeps of history with a little calm abstraction, and that’s a good thing right now. This interview gets better towards the end.
    J P Morgan is known to have affirmed that millionaires don’t need astrologers, but billionaires do…
    What are the effects of technology and artificial intelligence in both our organic and our subjective bodies? Mind control with bidirectional devices, both collecting information and inducing commands is a work in progress.
    Perverse levels of technological control of society are a serious concern as Pluto, aka Hades, lord of the underworld, will also transit in technological and futuristic Aquarius from 2023/24 on, up until 2043/44 – times of intense social transformation, when technological advancements will blow our minds and the very conception of science will change considerably, but with serious risks of trans-human and post-human madness.
    We cannot disregard our organicity. We cannot disregard our subjectivity, either. Pluto is about transformation or domination – in other words, quoting a recent article of yours: “Here’s our future: hackers or slaves.”
    We’ve got to go hacking not only in the objective sense – which surely becomes more and more a desirable skill – but in the subjective sense as well, finding lines of flight and keeping Eros alive, the life force in us vivid.

    Behold the dawning of the Age of Aquarius

    #67270
    Noirette
    Participant

    Imho Trump won the election fair and square. Who knows by how much, at the least 5% (pop national vote), probably v. much more, but see US electoral system.

    Trump is a hugely popular person and Biden is a nobody, even much disliked, a point I have tried to make with little success in some venues.

    Here is Paul Craig Roberts arguing similar:

    … “Consider that Joe Biden’s Twitter account has 20 million followers.

    Trump’s Twitter account has 88.8 million followers.

    Consider that Joe Biden’s Facebook account has 7.78 million followers.

    Trump’s Facebook account has 34.72 million followers.

    How likely is it that a person with four to five times the following of his rival lost the election?

    Consider that Joe Biden, declared by the biased presstitutes to be president by landslide, gave a Thanksgiving Day message and only 1,000 people watched his live statement. Where is the enthusiasm?

    Consider that Trump’s campaign appearances were heavily attended and that Biden’s were avoided. Somehow a candidate who could not draw supporters to his campaign appearances won the presidency.

    Consider that despite Biden’s total failure to animate voters during the presidential campaign, he received 15 million more votes than Barack Obama did in his 2012 re-election.

    Consider that Biden won despite underperforming Hillary Clinton’s 2016 vote in every urban US county, but outperformed Clinton in Democrat-controlled Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Philadelphia, the precise cities where the most obvious and most blatant electoral fraud was committed. ….”

    —> more at link

    The Proof Is In: The Election Was Stolen

    #67271

    John, I saw the Escobar article this morning, and have had the music to “The Dawning of the age of America” instead in my head ever since. Driving me nuts.

    Not sure why the dawning was announced 50 years ago, and then again today. What happened since?

    #67272
    WES
    Participant

    The problem with US elections is that they are a political process.

    The politicians have told the courts to tend to legal matters and stay out of the political process.

    So election fraud is a political process avoided by courts.

    #67273
    WES
    Participant

    Merry Christmas to all at TAE!

    We are busy getting the dressing ready for the turkey. When the dressing is ready we will “stuff” the turkey.

    However for those living in Australia, we will be merely putting the dressing inside the turkey, rather than “stuffing” the turkey!

    #67274
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    SALUT! I’d lift a glass of Uzo, but I quit drinking when I was 21.

    Cheers, everybody!

    #67275
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Happy holiday and the coming new year everybody…
    …may it not be worse than 2020…

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