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    Pieter Bruegel the Elder Hunters in the snow 1565   • Dow Drops 470 Points To 14-Month Low In Day 2 Of Big Losses After Fed Hike (CNBC) • As Fear
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 21 2018]

    #44471
    Polder Dweller
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    Hard to understand how the British failed to take out a few hobby drones – unless they weren’t hobby drones (I haven’t seen a picture of one yet). A few high-power pulses of RF in the right direction will take out all but the most advanced (read military) drones. Cue the “it was them damn Russkies what done it” statement from Westminster.

    Meanwhile at Schiphol (Amsterdam airport) sea eagles are being used to tackle the drone menace:
    https://nos.nl/artikel/2131405-roofvogels-klaar-om-gevaarlijke-drones-te-vangen.html

    #44472
    V. Arnold
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    Pieter Bruegel the Elder Hunters in the snow 1565
    Wonderful painting and atmospherics (winter); splendid detail for the rest.

    I have to echo Polder Dweller re: the drones.
    This is the lack of ability of the British army? Whew-boy; they’re in deep shit…
    They should hire some savvy teens to get rid of them and track down the pilot (the army couldn’t find him/her either…

    #44473

    The drones are a peculiar story indeed. But one of the few so far not linked to Russia. To make sure, I looked it up: Gatwick has 2 runways, but can only use one at a time. More surprisingly to me Heathrow has only 2 runways, surprising because Amsterdam has 6. And Gatwick managed to get 126,000 people stranded with that 1 runway in what, a day and a half? Bit overbooked perhaps? Maybe leaving the EU is not such a great idea after all; the Brits risk being catapulted back into the Middle Stone Ages if they don’t get any (make that lots of) help.

    #44474
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Maybe leaving the EU is not such a great idea after all; the Brits risk being catapulted back into the Middle Stone Ages if they don’t get any (make that lots of) help. Ilargi

    The Brit’s did a splendid, dare I say, spectacular, job of making themselves out to be classic fools during the Skripal debacle. Their story blamming Russia was a shameful embarassment of outright lies.
    Why would the EU even want them?
    May IS a stupid woman; an I’m not so sure Corbyn isn’t a stupid man.
    Mentally, the Brits may already be back in the Middle Ages…
    The US is likewise speeding towards a neo-feudalism; aspects of which are already in play…

    #44475
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Notice how intensely cold it was even in Holland in 1560. This is the Little Ice Age caused by the Maunder Solar Minimum, a cycle of 400 years. Time’s up.

    Germany’s Hidden Crisis – Social Decline In The Heart Of Europe (G.)
    Because The Guardian, virtually everything in this article is wrong, and worse, incoherent.
    In a mere 3 paragraphs:

    “bailing out southern Europeans” False. It was not a bailout, it was a crippling loan. Further it was not a loan to Greece as none of the money went to that nation but was re-routed back to German banks and their subs. Germany bailed out Germans, but not even that as the German people were also trashed: the bailout went exclusively to systemic insiders, who went bankrupt by losing on provable frauds. TO the rich of Europe, FROM the poor of Europe.

    “oversized public sectors” False. While Greece and Italy have do indeed have large public sectors, each of these are in line with the European average, including Holland and Germany. As the non-bailout occurred, Greece became the country with the smallest public sector and public support by some measures, and multiples smaller than Germany, even today. So again, Germany was bailing out THEIR oversized social programs by erasing those of others, and happily killing thousands doing it.

    “post-democratic” I won’t say this is false, but a) where have they been the last 30 years, and b) if they aren’t, nobody else in the West is either. False and unfair.

    “with the first fascists in the Bundestag since the Third Reich” False, presuming he is implying AfD & co and not single anomalous ministers who can always sometimes exist. So there is a group that is socialist, nationalist, who believes in expanding Germany to Germans everywhere, is on a war footing, and wants to accomplish this by uniting Corporate and State power? And they have a weird, almost occult religion of progressivism and personality cult to do it? Do tell, because I do not see any of those elements in play. If anything, that corporate merger and personality cult found its apex in the EU plan and Angela Merkel and is now receding.

    “Europe’s richest country” False. So Germany is richer than Austria, Monaco, and Switzerland now? Other studies would add Norway, Luxemburg, the Netherlands, Ireland, and Sweden. That’s pretty far down the list. 9th richest among a mere 28? Go Guardian, which being British, doesn’t even know Europe, but I repeat myself.

    “the losers are the usual suspects – women, immigrants” Or Greek and other men of southern and Eastern (and British) Europe who have disproportionately suffered? And immigrants are suffering? Compared to staying home? Why are they coming then?

    “The more a society is based on equality of opportunity, the more unequal it becomes,” Wow. So we’re against equality of opportunity now? What does that leave but equality of outcome, i.e. Soviet/Venezuelan Socialism? And Nachtwey/Guardian’s argument is that we should outlaw opportunity, replace it with equal outcome, and this will make society MORE equal? Where has that every happened? Ask your Soviet Party officials who were shopping in Geneva and resorting in Turkey. Heck, ask your EU party officials who are presently making $147,000/year with full benefits and an expense account to not show up to work, plus million-Euro payoffs, for example 1/3 of them geting pay from George Soros. Golly but that $100/hr is a long way from $10/hr we get. But these people will save you and think only about your welfare.

    The problem is because of an INEQUALITY of opportunity. Can you get 0% loans for 20 years to buy assets you yourself caused to be distressed? Can you pass the legislation and legally get insider tips on stock trades PLUS the money to buy them? If your pub takes out huge, risky loans for unwarranted expansion, covers it with accounting fraud, then sells the neighboring empty building that they never legally owned, do they get bailed out and not go to jail? After crashing the auto industry and embezzling all the money, are the German auto workers then paid bonuses larger than the GDP of Iceland? Can you direct the economy to boost tenfold assets you own (stocks and houses), and ravage assets you don’t own (wages and small businesses)?
    But this is our “Equality of Opportunity” that we need to fix. How? By moving from giving outsized and ill-used power to giving extreme and even totalitarian power to the same people.

    Thanks, Guardian. Thanks Nachtwey, and heck, thanks Picketty. We know who you are. Failing failures and the fails they’ve failed.

    Maybe someday someone will notice. This article is published and read without a peep.

    Shouldn’t they everyone sue Sachs over the derivatives accounting fraud that allowed Greece and Italy to enter the EU?

    #44476
    zerosum
    Participant

    Someone at the Guardian made an error of omission.
    They left a fly on the wall.
    They did not hire Dr. D. and they left him free to listen and peek into the dark and therefore be able to write about a different reality.

    The new weapon of terrorism, (drones), has passed all its tests.
    On close approach a shotgun would not help to eliminate drones because the BB shots left on the runway would cause a major problem.

    #44477
    zerosum
    Participant

    (fake news) Today is the shortest day of the year.

    Read about a different reality

    We’re Allowed to Celebrate Trump’s Withdrawal From Syria


    Then there’s Hoyer’s claim – echoed by Senator Graham, every pundit on CNN and MSNBC, and just about every vacuous D.C. analyst – that pulling out of Syria is “dangerous.”

    #44478

    Trump’s plan to withdraw from Syria goes to show what I think is perhaps the main ‘event’ of the past year -and change-: the MSM can no longer break with their own narrative anymore even just to celebrate peace at Christmas time. They MUST hold on to the storyline, which says Trump is evil (which makes even Mad Dog Mattis a good man), and US occupation of, and if they feel like it, war in, foreign nations is needed to preserve America.

    They all know this narrative stopped making sense long ago, but they’re stuck: remember, smearing Trump is what makes them money. if CNN or the NYT would praise him now for bringing troops home so they can be with their families for the holidays, they would risk losing their main lifeline, their money making golden goose.

    It doesn’t matter what developments take place, the media operate in a 2D world now. And their readers and viewers like that it makes their puzzling lives so much easier to navigate. But obviously, this sort of thing is very dangerous: people reach conclusions, and act, based on some flat earth idea that has nothing to do with anyone’s reality.

    #44479
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    More about drones. I agree with zerosum that over the runways a shotgun is not such a great idea, but as I said, high-power RF pulses would take out pretty much anything that hadn’t been specifically designed to cope with such an attack. Specifically, that would entail shielding for the central electronics and limiters that could absorb an enormous amount of power. So, we’re left with a three options: 1. These were military-grade drones; 2. The British security forces are incompetent; or 3. It’s a hoax to allow the British government to introduce tough new drone laws. Take your pick.

    #44480
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ pd
    …. high-power RF pulses ….
    Took tech for your average idiot.
    A slingshot. bb on the runway would do more harm.
    —-
    The tide is going out, (bulldog resigned), every one is naked, (calling for more war)

    #44481
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Donating debt-based money to “help” Greeks without addressing the fraudulent debt-based money system, and the criminals who run it that have locked and loaded your home as direct collateral for the fraudulent debt, is akin to rearranging the chairs on the Titanic.

    Is that you intent, or are you truly unwitting when it comes to debt-money systems in spite of the information presented in these forums and in the post you rejected all those years ago?

    “In our time, the curse is monetary illiteracy, just as inability to read plain print was the curse of earlier centuries.”
    ~Ezra Pound

    #44482
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Regarding Syria, they do NOT have a debt-based money central bank yet. Neither does Iran.

    The Money Power Monopolist cabal is patient, BUT THEY DO NOT GIVE UP.

    The odds of a “Pearl Harbor” / 9/11 type event to are greatly increased due to this announcement. This “play” would give Trump the cover he needs in order to finally conquer Syria and set up a central bank.

    “Amazing how Libyan rebels took time out of their daily war duties to establish a CENTRAL BANK! Imagine the paperwork in getting that done on the battlefield!
    Those rebels are a well educated lot!
    Laughing out Loud!
    Seriously, don’t the serfs notice things like this?”
    ~Rothschild

    “The establishment of central banks is ALWAYS a necessary first step of subjugation of geographically congregated bloodlines.”
    ~House of Rothschild

    “There will be NO jubilee…count on it!”
    ~House of Rothschild

    “Remember, the equity and bond markets exist only to remove fiat from circulation!”
    ~House of Rothschild

    Archived Rothschild Q&A
    https://ia802300.us.archive.org/8/items/rofschildv1/IAmARofschildAxeMeAQuestion.html

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