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    Edward Hopper New York movie 1938   • Replace the Income Tax With Tariffs? (Jeffrey Tucker) • Trump Slaps 25% Tariffs On Canada & Mexico, 10% On
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle February 1 2025]

    #180986
    aspnaz
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    ram said

    With respect to AI and “unexpected” Chinese progress in that area:

    I’ve been involved in AI research for over 48 years. It used to be called “Statistical Pattern Recognition”. I’ve built my own standalone Generative Large Language Model AI using a motherboard from a decade ago. The GPU card is a bit newer, maybe at most technology from five years ago. Consumes under 150 Watts. Not connected to the Internet (normally), no “guardrails”, no outside users, no microphones, no cameras. I want to make sure I’m programming it, and it is not programming me.

    That being said, the technology associated with the DeepSeek AIs has been Open Source for a while and also fairly widely published. The reason “The West” is so far far behind is they have trashed their education systems with DEI hires. The mathematics behind AI is HARD. It takes at least two decades to train the most worthy people to be proficient in the STEM subjects necessary to build and advance such devices.

    From what I’ve played with, the DeepSeek models are quite good. I can see why the Pentagon, among others, is in a panic. You can try the DeepSeek models (running on reasonably secure server in the USA) at the following URLs (which may be censored on HC, if so my next post will work around that):

    Interesting, I also worked on machine learning back in the day, although briefly, at IBM, about 40 years ago – you predate me by 8 years. I was not a machine learning guy, but my mentor came from that area and so I got involved in some of the shit that he was doing. Who were you working with?

    #180987
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Video for kill box
    Dark

    #180988
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Trump Slaps 25% Tariffs On Canada & Mexico, 10% On China

    Wow, amazing how, after all the economic anaysis and modelling, the numbers turned out to be nice round numbers that humans would have chosen had they pulled them out their asses. Ridiculous, the Orange Jew is a joke, his “economics” probably comes down to how good his wank was this morning. The USA is floating in the toilet, hoping not to be flushed, meantime the likes of Trump, Musk and their Jew-team are stealing what they can.

    #180989
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Trump Secretary Whistleblower helpfully explains the FAA and drones:

    Smoke

    Um, then give us a name? WTF, there is no story. “Man Speaks: News at 11”

    “Trump Slaps 25% Tariffs On Canada & Mexico, 10% On China
    No clarification on exemptions…

    He already told them: stop the fentanyl, a full frontal assault attacking the United States. Canada said no. We like fentanyl sooooooooooo much! Canada and Fentanyl, like peanut butter and jelly, everybody knows that. Trump’s a big meanine when they can stop this in 12 hours. Poof, no more tariffs, overnight. ..And they…won’t?
    Bart
    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/612/555/0d8

    Suit yourself! If Canada or Mexico crack first, those capital flows from your bond collapse will still come here, but it’s all up to you.

    “Fifth Circuit Declares Federal Age Limits On Adult Gun Ownership Unconstitutional

    It’s all hopeless and we have to give up because we’re winning here for decades. Like 25 states are open carry? Yet another rule for “Shall not infringe”? Now I think these are waaaaaay too accommodating, and need to bring back cannons like the Swiss have, but you can’t say we’re losing.

    Meanwhile, in Sweden: 32 bombs a month. And that’s over 10m people, and very little area: like Canada, many countries, they are all crammed in the 10% southern tip. How can the bad guys get this far, with the highest hand grenades in the world, highest sexual assault, highest violent…? Because the people can’t defend themselves, that’s what they had planned for us. “Save me. Daddy. Government.”

    “Gay Dragons And Black Samurai: Woke Game Companies In Crisis As Consumers Walk Away

    Winning again. They are going to FORCE this product on customers, even if the company collapses under it’s fundamentalist religion. And? And people say no: I’ll go outside to the park. Bye. That’s all it takes. Thanks, actually. Boys will go to the gym and the gun range. That’s you. You did that.

    Speaking of, they finally couldn’t delay the Snow White thing any longer, and Rachel would never let the controversy die down. It has a 98% disapproval rating on the trailers, highest of all time, ever. Makes Sharknado look like Gone with the Wind. That’s not some rounding error, 1 MILLION people watched it and decided – essentially the entire country. Get Woke, Go Broke. But you can be like Canada. You can just keep going. If you’re not tired, we the American People aren’t tired.

    “US ‘In Contact’ With Russia, Trump Confirms

    Isn’t the U.S. always in contact with Russia? Since the U.S. and Russia have existed?

    Treasury Dept’s Highest-Ranking Career Official Rage-Quits After Musk’s DOGE Team Probes Payment System

    Apparently thought it was reasonable for DOGE to exist to not be able to see anything. Like you can audit anything you want except the payment system. Anything but the checkbook ledger and we’ll be fine.

    “At 5 PM EST, Fed Workers’ Pronoun Use On Emails Will Be ‘Was/Were’
    Fed workers on the subreddit r/fednews are revolting…”

    Yes, they are on Reddit exclusively during business hours, EST.

    “Pronoun Warrior Pete Buttigieg Nukes “He/Him” From Social Media
    Buttigieg and the others work for Trump now, I guess.

    “Number Of Genders Hits 10-Year Low” – Bbee


    “11 Random Facts That Show That America Is Rotting And Decaying Right In Front Of Our Eyes

    Yes, but we can be the worst! …As long as we’re just one step better than you are. That’s a low bar, and I’m certain we’ll clear it. After that, all we need is motion in the right direction, and we’re free.

    “If you can shed any light for us on how the president perceives his use of public profanity,”

    He essentially doesn’t use profanity. Just last week he used a word and very carefully highlighted that he shouldn’t/rarely does. True = False. How many fingers am I holding up?

    “There was a time, before 1913, when you could keep every penny you earned.”

    Amazon and Exxon do that now. I pay more taxes than billionaires every year of my life. So: good thing the government is helping! Boy we need more government and more rules!

    “Tomorrow, February 1, the Trump administration will slap 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico, and a 10% tariff on China,”

    I fail to see how he can legally do this. Probably until the court cases catch up.

    “• Trump Vows To ‘Absolutely’ Impose Tariffs On EU (RT)

    He was going to exactly match their tariffs on us. The Monster!

    Air Crash: Boy when CEOs get killed and private jets go down, everyone is riveted! But 500,000 opioid deaths a year for JimmyBob? Meh. A good start. Let every plane stop flying, IDGAF.

    “• EU Divided Over Western Troops In Ukraine – Times (RT)

    By “Divided” you mean 99% to 1% against?

    “• EU Energy Policy Row Triggers Norway Government Collapse (RT)

    Wha? In which direction? Anything to do with 32 bombings a month next door? Signing off $50k/murder, with all foreign-based dealers running it? (I definitely need to get in on this business boom)

    ““We are not happy with Norway. The sentiment is as bad as I have known it,” an EU ambassador to Oslo told the Financial Times on Thursday, calling the Nordic nation “selfish” for “trying to keep this electricity for itself,”

    IDGAF if you’re happy or not. Never crossed my mind to care. And: All our electric is ours. Also, all of YOUR electric is ours. Norway will own nothing and like it. I don’t see the problem!

    “• Merkel Joins Virtue-Signaling Outcry Over AfD (ZH)

    AfD, simple: ACTUAL deaths, murders, rampages, bankruptcies, no problem! SIGNALED, theoretical rampages, bankruptcies that never happened? The only problem. False = True. Fake = Real.

    ““President Trump has reportedly indicated that if Republicans torpedo either Tulsi or RFK Jr., it will mean “war”.

    Well that’s odd. Whatever would he use in such a war? The Epstein flight list? And Tulsi is no big win. She’s barely tolerable, as a Democrat, an insider, and a normalist. They’ve moved the field 900 yards over and we’re supposed to cheer on a 5 yard penalty. Hey: let’s go back to 1990, all agreed? That’s about 5x to the right of the Trump platform. Just put in the Budget under Carter. Agreed?

    “• Trump is Not Going to Make US Into ‘Bitcoin Superpower’ (Sp.)

    Uhhh, does this guy not read? It’s not like that. 1) U.S. buys BTC as one of many reserve assets. 2) Drops taxation on profits, eg Captial Gains, as if they are currencies. 3) Gives tax breaks to companies that HQ here. Not hard.

    “• The US is Turning Into a Crybaby Empire (Sp.)

    You’re bad for not saying anything. You’re also bad for pointing it out. Win-Win. America is bad! Better surrender now!

    #180991
    zerosum
    Participant

    Exaggerations and Lies
    Deep fake, illusion, irrelevant, Ignore

    adapt
    adjust
    Revenge
    tit-for-tat

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    A strategies for gaining revenue
    • Replace the Income Tax With Tariffs? (Jeffrey Tucker)
    Tariffs were not abolished entirely.
    The income tax just became a second and additional source of revenue.
    Printing became the third source and major source of income.

    Controlling complexity

    • Trump Slaps 25% Tariffs On Canada & Mexico, 10% On China (ZH)

    • Trump Vows To ‘Absolutely’ Impose Tariffs On EU (RT)

    Trump also threatened to impose 100% tariffs on BRICS nations if they attempt to undermine the “mighty US dollar” by creating an alternative currency.
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    “If they try to touch Tulsi and Kennedy, then it’s war.” – Trump Advisor

    https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1885124042266402974?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1885124042266402974%7Ctwgr%5Ea4055b396d4219322ca62ff17181863590bd9a2a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theautomaticearth.com%2F2025%2F02%2Fdebt-rattle-february-1-2025%2F
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    • The Arbitrary Hypocrisy of American “Justice” (Paul Craig Roberts)

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    cognitive dissonance
    • Six Ways From Sunday (Jim Kunstler)

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    100s of DeepSeek versions are being launched around the world.
    The US loses control of the narratives.

    https://x.com/NuryVittachi/status/1885157776990826690?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1885157776990826690%7Ctwgr%5Ea4055b396d4219322ca62ff17181863590bd9a2a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theautomaticearth.com%2F2025%2F02%2Fdebt-rattle-february-1-2025%2F
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    #180992
    zerosum
    Participant

    A path for killing and destruction
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-transfers-90-patriot-missiles-israel-ukraine-pivot
    US Transfers 90 Patriot Missiles From Israel To Ukraine In Pivot

    This week defense officials told Axios that the United States has begun transferring Patriot air defense interceptors from storage in Israel for eventual delivery to Ukraine.

    Some 90 Patriot missiles will first be sent from Israel to Poland, after which they’ll go to Ukraine as part of stepped-up efforts of Washington to boost Ukraine’s air defenses. Russian missiles and drones have been pummeling Ukrainian cities, and especially power and energy infrastructure, on a near daily basis.

    The Patriot system has become somewhat irrelevant or outdated in Israel since it was first introduced there some three decades ago. Israel is now reliant on the Iron Dome and its other domestically developed systems.

    The Patriots have instead long been used for training purposes in Israel, with the bulk of the arsenal having been relegated to storage.

    Axios notes that “Last April, the Israeli Air Force officially decommissioned the Patriot air defense system, more than 30 years after it was first given to Israel during the first Gulf War.”

    From there, the prior Biden administration began working on a plan to refurbish the stored missiles and give them to Ukraine.
    Additionally, Russia is busy packing up its two military bases on the Syrian coast. The bases’ ultimate status is anything but clear at this point, but much heavy equipment has been set up at a Libyan port.

    While Assad was in power, and Russian presence inside Syria was significant, Israel had to maintain a delicate balance in its relations with Moscow and Washington. Throughout nearly three years of the Ukraine war, Israel has rebuffed calls from Kiev to send weaponry.

    Ukraine has tried to argue that the presence of Iranian drones used by Russian forces is a threat which Israel can help counter. It’s looking like Israel may begin boosting some level of support to the Zelensky government in coordination with the US, also as the truce in Gaza is holding.

    But Israel was deeply wary at the time of poking or crossing Russia:

    For several months, Israel dragged its feet out of concern Russia would retaliate, perhaps by supplying sophisticated weapons to Iran.
    A Ukrainian official tells Axios Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu refused to take his calls on that issue for weeks.
    But in late September, Netanyahu finally approved the idea, an Israeli official says.
    Israel will no doubt be much more cooperative with the US on Ukraine in the wake of December 8. That’s when longtime leader Bashar al-Assad fled Syria, and with the end of his rule Iranian forces have pulled out of the country.

    #180993
    ram
    Participant

    aspnaz,

    I was working mostly with Demetrios Kazakos who was collaborating with Keinosuke Fukanaga. I personally met Dr. Fukanaga a little over a decade ago. I fear Dr. Kazakos is no long with us. Dr. Lainiotis was also a participant, although I met him I did not know him well.

    #180994
    John Day
    Participant

    @WES & MPSK, from last night: “You are a gluten for punishment.”

    ;-}

    #180995
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Before we get all worked up with, I have to admit, impressive Trump-adm moves they are all non essential for the real life for huge number of American families at the moment.
    Tsunami of foreclosures on the horizon. Vid bit too long, but worth of watching.

    #180996
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Speaking of real estate related:

    The Blackhawk helicopter was flying too high, by a lot.

    Spoken by builder.

    #180998
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Still marooned and once again Marooned.

    That word perfectly describes The D…marooned.

    I sure hope Tulsi and Hegs and Musk do it becoz the World will get to hear about it, forever, loud and clear on video.

    The following video is submitted simply for the benefit of witnessing The Phenomenon of Hair Blown By Unseen Wind as demonstrated by Tulses ever-meandering White Forelock in the still shot from her nomination hearing. Enjoy!

    Warner Asks Gabbard Point Blank: ‘What Are The Reforms That Have Led You To Now Support 702?’

    #180999
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Because of The Fed, income taxes are not really necessary…but they provide the cover required for the government’s money (mis)management. Personal income tax made it a requirement to track the income of each individual…but since then, social security and Medicare and unemployment insurance have been added into the mix and these also require such tracking. Layered on top of that are SNAP, Medicaid, and a host of “need-based” programs that are directed at the poor, which also require income tracking. Specifically, states administering these programs use the quarterly reports that employers make to government about their employees’ wages to corroborate what needy citizens report as their income to aid agencies. On top of all of that, many other need-based programs rely upon the states’ determination of eligibility of SNAP to determine eligibility for things like the Obamaphone, free school lunch, discounted internet for families with school-aged children, discounted dental care at county dental clinics, free/discounted fees for standardized tests, waiving of court filing fees, half-price Amazon Prime, and discounted tickets for local museums.

    So, wash away income tax…but we’d still need to find a way to fund social security, Medicare, UI, etc. And, aid programs would still need income data, otherwise they would have to be reformulated to work in a different fashion. It is a bit of a conundrum.

    #181000
    jb-hb
    Participant

    news continues to be written by AI queried by midwit sjw millenials

    An air ambulance lear jet was taking a little girl HOME to Mexico after being discharged from the hospital in the US.

    You know how you always take the ambulance HOME after you take it TO the Hospital, right? Everyone uses ambulances like a taxi to go home after being released from medical care.

    And you want the fastest taxi ride home from your ambulance, right? What could be better than a private jet ambulance taxi?

    Who the fuck is paying for a single little girl to receive private ambulance for transportation home? Is the US Taxpayer paying for this Mexican little girl’s private jet?

    Oh no, they recovered from the treatment in the US, but recovery ISN’T recovery, they needed to be ensconced within a mobile private-jet medical suite with multiple doctors providing private medical care in the sky?

    …because that’s cheaper than keeping the child in the hospital until they can fully heal? Were they actually recovered or “recovered” meaning not at all recovered? Why recover while already “recovered” on board a private jet? No better options? And again who pays for this?

    None of that makes sense to me.

    #181001
    John Day
    Participant

    Thank you again, Ram.
    I am appreciative of your unique and frank insights.
    “Let the sun shine in!”

    #181002
    John Day
    Participant

    @jb-hb: I presume these are wealthy Mexicans using private medical flights, like Carlos Slim’s family, or their neighbors.

    #181012
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Shouldn’t the private jet ambulance have been in use for its primary function as a high speed ambulance? For someone needing an ambulance? I’d think jet ambulances are a limited resource.

    The tinfoil alex jones part of my brain wants to spin a story about human traffickers using so-called air ambulances to shuttle children and vials of adrenachrome back and forth across the us-mexico border being shot down by Q using ukrainian stingers.

    #181013
    those darned kids
    Participant

    ram: The reason “The West” is so far far behind is they have trashed their education systems with DEI hires.

    nope. the “west” was already way behind before the dei madness. no, it’s the childhood vaccines. the west is hopelessly poisoned.

    #181014
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Who the fuck moo is paying for a single little girl to receive private ambulance for transportation home?

    a rich mexican whose daughter is probably vaccine injured because of operation warp seed.

    #181015
    those darned kids
    Participant

    calley means?

    nope, just nope.

    faker than velveeta: https://debbielerman.substack.com/p/cia-central-casting-the-means-episode

    #181016
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Already attractive woman who has a need, at her age, for hair highlight and artificial eye lashes at official hearing of national importance sends a wrong message for “I am here to serve the Nation” despite having a heart at the right place.

    #181017
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #181018
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Who is paying for the flight?

    If the only “vision of Mexico” are the desperate poor coming through the Southern border then………..
    US oligarchs love the Mexico’s social “set-up” and have a plan to emulate it.

    #181019
    zerosum
    Participant

    Are you ready for tit-for-tat war?
    Remember …. the leaders are not in the firing line.
    Modern war fare bullets are tariffs. (lies and exaggerations)
    Everything, (that you have), is on the table. (including the value of your loonie)

    #181020
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #181022
    Oroboros
    Participant

    • Third World US Cannot Get Its Astronauts Home From Space

    Ritual Humiliation

    Duh’merica looks like a dickless clownshow.

    The Chinese and Russians will have Moon bases before Duh’merica figures out how to shuttle Astronauts routinely back and forth to mere Earth orbit.

    I guess the Pedo Intel Blob® wants it that way now that they’re cast their lot a Chinese Eunuch Buttboy Traitors®

    The Empire of Lies ‘intelligence services’ are all adrenochrome drinking pedophiles, like all of them down to a ‘man’

    The Empire of Lies ‘intelligence services’ are utterly incompetent losers on top of everything either said about them.

    All hat and no cattle.

    The Chinese and Russia intel routinely wipe their ass with Duh’merica’s ‘intelligence services’ (cough, gag, cough)

    The Pedo Intel Blob are hard core cowards hiding in the shadows fucking little trafficked kids.

    What did you expect from slimy monsters?

    Duh’merica’s ‘space program’ explained:

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    #181023
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Alfred Hitchbot

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    #181024
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “Journalists” aren’t ‘sub-human, they’re not human

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    #181025
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Virtue Signaling Germantards

    BMW

    Bowel Movement Works

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    #181026
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Bill ‘Save the Planet’ Gates

    Oozing Hypocrisy from His Anus

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    #181027
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #181028
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    They haven’t released the names of the passengers of the medical Lear Jet crash in Philly, but there are a few clues that get us close enough to serve all practical purposes. There were 6 people on board, and the young female patient and her Mother were quite obviously EXTREMELY wealthy.

    We know about the extreme wealth because a privately hired Lear jet with its own two pilots, a doctor and paramedic (all 6 aboard were Mexican nationals) costs more per hour than the average citizen makes in a year ……. and they were flying all the way from Pennsylvania to their home in Mexico.

    So, not your average customers, are they? And how does anyone get THAT rich in Mexico (three guesses, and all three involve serious criminal behavior).

    I’m not going to speculate who wanted them dead, or why, but I WILL speculate on how it was done:

    Remote over-ride of the aircraft’s flight controls by an external operative using the onboard robotic flight controls that are built into ALL high-end aircraft.

    Because such equipment DOES exist (both robotic flight controls ON the aircraft, and equipment to operate those controls FROM OUTSIDE the aircraft, it basically just an economics question about who has access to them and what they might charge to let someone else have access.

    Want to bring down an airplane, ANY airplane? It’s a simple matter of how much you are willing and able to spend. The service is for hire.

    #181029
    jb-hb
    Participant

    MSNBC host Jonathan Capehart asked who “believes that racism and misogyny played a role in Vice President Harris’s defeat,” and every candidate quickly raised their hand in agreement.

    https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/Dems.jpg?itok=4lZgQRw3

    The problem is all these American everywhere, they’re a bunch of nazi homophobe misogynist racists. The ones that voted for us are ALSO that way but are hypocritically trying to hide and defend themselves by pretending to be okay.

    We really need other, new Americans,that are better than THESE Americans

    sir, why don’t you move to them instead of them all moving to you? Doesn’t that produce a lot of CO2 replacing a continent’s worth of people? Wouldn’t it be simpler to just move you to where they are? I could buy you a ticket if your 6 figure salary and massive PAC donations leave you unable to afford it.

    You don’t get it.

    #181030
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Karmageddon Lyric, Music, Video.

    Road To Chaos

    … snip:

    ”Trump is telling the rest of the world that they must be losers – and accept the fact graciously in payment for the military protection that it provides the world in case Russia might invade Europe or China send its army into Taiwan, Japan or other countries. The fantasy is that Russia would have anything to gain in having to support a collapsing European economy, or that China decides to compete militarily instead of economically.

    Hubris is at work in this dystopian fantasy. […]”

    https://www.unz.com/mhudson/trumps-balance-of-payments-war-on-mexico-and-the-whole-world/

    Anyway, … this will not end well!

    #181031
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Trump sez that the BlackHawk helicopter was flying too high, by a LOT.

    Well fer cryin’ out loud, Donald! That’s how high it HAD to fly in order to hit the passenger plane. If they hadn’t flown that high then they would not be able hit it, now would they? Duh!!

    #181032
    zerosum
    Participant

    The USA has declared WAR, a Trade War.

    Canadians are starting to understand.
    The first salvo is of 25% tariffs.
    There will be escalation for any retaliation response by Canada.

    Canadian choices. nil

    This war will continue until a depression, or a bankruptcy of Canada and a surrender/yield to give what USA want.

    The USA has no other choice. $40T of unpayable loans.
    The USA lenders want to get their loans paid back.
    The lenders do not want the USA to go bankrupt.

    Canadians must face reality.
    Their best friend has just stabbed them in the back.

    #181033
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

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    #181034
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @jb_hb

    … part of my brain wants to spin a story about human traffickers using so-called air ambulances to shuttle children and vials of adrenochrome back and forth across the us-mexico border being shot down by Q using ukrainian stingers.

    That part of your brain is doing a pretty good job of presenting plausible hypotheses.

    The more unsettling thing about it though, is that such colorfully wild and crazy ideas are well inside the brackets of what is fairly routine and ordinary in todays world.

    ALSO, there is this whole new method of murder-for-hire. Robotically controllable aircraft, weaponized
    for multiple lethal purposes, and FOR HIRE to the highest bidder.

    I expect to see a whole lot more of that kind of thing. High-end competitors (on both sides of the Great Game) will be dropping like flies. Don’t let an airplane fall on you and avoid vehicles altogether if there’s a big enough price on your head. (and I think prices are dropping).

    #181035
    those darned kids
    Participant

    oro: yep, mr trump seems to be sending people home.

    however, it will take a lot more to match the “deporter-in-chief”, mr obama, wicked wart o’ the west.

    #181036
    those darned kids
    Participant

    And how does anyone get THAT rich in Mexico (three guesses, and all three involve serious criminal behavior).

    wrong-a-rama!

    these billionaires get rich the ol’ fashioned gringo way, buying politicians and exploiting the poor.

    all semi-legal1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_billionaires_by_net_worth

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