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    Rembrandt van Rijn The Storm on the Sea of Galilee 1633 On March 18, 1990, the painting was stolen by thieves disguised as police officers. They broke
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle February 24 2021]

    #70153
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Quote for the day:

    Robert Kagan Diagnosed America’s Biggest Problem: Americans Who Don’t Want To Run the World
    by Doug Bandow Posted on February 22, 2021

    All great powers” want to rule the world, declared Robert Kagan, propagandist for America as imperial power, democratic hegemon, aggressive unipower, and perpetual war machine. However, they typically fail. Wrote Kagan in a new Foreign Affairs article: “Much of the drama of the past century resulted from great powers whose aspirations exceeded their capacity.”

    The U.S. has a different problem, he contended. The American people. Rather than realize their unique calling to sacrifice themselves and obey their betters when instructed to patrol the globe, they continued to look inward.

    They failed to realize that their destiny is to impose order upon independent and subservient, judge innocent and guilty, wage war upon great and small, and, yes, kill anyone who and destroy anything which gets in the way of fulfilling this sacred duty. Instead of focusing on the wishes of Washington, D.C., the world’s imperial city, and rising to the greatness expected of them by supporting the aggrandizements of a globally dominant America, they focused on the local and personal – their careers and educations, their communities and towns, their clubs and associations, and their families and friends.

    Yes, he admitted, “they have met the challenges of Nazism and Japanese imperialism, Soviet communism, and radical Islamist terrorism.” However, they saw these efforts as “exceptional responses to exceptional circumstances. They do not see themselves as the primary defender of a certain kind of world order; they have never embraced that ‘indispensable’ role.”

    Such a revelation could shock only a certified ivory tower warrior, who believes that his comparative advantage in life is coming up with wars for patriotic young men and women across the country to fight. Not to defend America. But to create and preserve “a liberal world order” designed by the foreign policy equivalent of a priestly class, of which Kagan must be at least an archbishop or cardinal. It would be tempting to dismiss such arguments as the ravings of an accomplished, even celebrated policy entrepreneur. However, top officials have picked up these arguments, making them central to dealing with the rest of the world.

    Consider the egregious Madeleine Albright, former UN ambassador and secretary of state, author of multiple books and articles, member of endless commissions and panels, and all-around Washington paladin. She has become an apt if unusually celebrated representative of the foreign policy establishment. Preemptively channeling Robert Kagan more than two decades ago, she declared: “If we have to use force, it is because we are America: we are the indispensable nation. We stand tall and we see further than other countries into the future, and we see the danger here to all of us.”

    Being all-knowing and all-seeing naturally gives the US the right to impose its will on the rest of the world irrespective of the cost to others. As Albright explained, when asked about the humanitarian toll from sanctions on Iraq: “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price – we think the price is worth it.”

    https://original.antiwar.com/doug-bandow/2021/02/21/robert-kagan-diagnosed-americas-biggest-problem-americans-who-dont-want-to-run-the-world/

    That price was 1 Million dead Iraqi children. Somebody else pays. Love. Tolerance. Supporting human rights for brown people worldwide. No wonder they are our leaders, our betters! Thank God we took out Baathist Saddam who was totally unrelated to Sunni Al Qeada terrorists and killed 2 million more! Manifest Destiny. “Theirs is not to reason why; theirs is but to do…and die.”

    #70154
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Rembrandt van Rijn The Storm on the Sea of Galilee 1633

    Dramatic, stunning, and the light……………

    #70156
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Hopkin’s problem is that there’s nothing you can say anymore that’s more stupid and illogical than real life. Or, in my frustration, the stupid and illogical people who keep cooperating and keep it going in order to erase all human rights on earth.

    “Attorney General Merrick Garland will allow Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation”

    Speaking of, it’s amazing to see this sentence even published. The whole and entire POINT of a special prosecutor – soup to nuts – is that he CAN’T be removed. He IS independent, and has autonomy to proceed without interference. But of course that is “rules” and “law” and that doesn’t apply to us. It only applies to THEM, under Mueller. Whatever.

    “Finland COVID-19 Variant Reportedly May Not Show Up In Tests (NYP)”

    Why would I care about a variant that isn’t going to kill me either?

    “Today you inhaled 6 pollen, 27 cotton fluff, 100 Micrococcus, and one flea” Yup. Still fine. Still don’t care. I only care about disease that have a death rate. At all.

    Biden says the world needs to defend democracy. That starts at home.

    He says, as he rounds up and prosecutes anyone who uses democracy, free speech, free assembly, or due process. Meh. Nothing new. Same old, same old, all my life: “You shut up. We’re coming for you, we’re going to take your children to PBS camps/woodchippers, bomb/kill/drone/nuke you and your whole town/state/people.” Blah blah blah.

    Their problem is, that requires work. And logical strategy. They have neither. In fact, they’re crying uncle already, from behind the Great Wall of Pelosi:
    Tweehttps://granitegrok.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Ocasio-Cortez-fake-crying-for-a-parkinglot.png
    Caption: “Let my people go, Ms. Pelosi! Tear down this racist wall that doesn’t work!”

    News article (too slow to capture it), Biden(?) says we SHOULDN’T censor Twitter, etc. Oh What? Do tell. You see, they have all this “Power™”, but the problem is, when they USE this power, people instantly leave and collapse their stock $14B dollars. …Showing they DON’T have any power. …They have what we call in America, an “illusion” “Some bulls—t”, because We. Don’t. Care. So now that they’ve banned 75Million people off their platforms…Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, do I need to finish this sentence?

    …They have half the audience, they have no income, no one credits their ideas, everyone thinks they’re oppressive and stupid, all the cool kids, edgy, fun, and salty go to where they can speak, joke, and mock freely, their competitors, Gab, GAIN 75 million followers and all that income, they lose their “influence”, CNN’s ratings fall 40% in one day and shortly thereafter…die. The End.

    …And here we are. We won. They lost. Need more? Last week we had a 40 year NY Times Journalist discussing the context of using…or rather quoting…the N-word. How to use, not to use, whatever, because it is a word, i.e. “Reality” and a word people use, both positively, among friends, negatively, among enemies, and historically, i.e. “reality” and therefore among the non-insane must be addressed. Although STRICTLY left, totally adopting all correct dogma, he was instantly fired. For opening a dictionary.

    Yesterday a Slate reporter was discussing THAT reporter’s dilemma…and was fired for discussing that someone else once opened a dictionary. So thanks to their ever-spiraling ideological purity test, EVEN THE FURTHEST LEFT ideologues and cult kool aid members are being purged with a mania unseen at the height of the KKKultural Revolution. So where do you think those two will go? Do they die, or like Dido throw themselves into the sea? Um, no. They realize the insanity of what they’re doing, what the left does, and back up into some less-left position that is more free speech. Maybe a little, but it doesn’t take a lot. There aren’t any reporters left to accept these positions of “Pravda” and “Izvestia”. EVERYONE is now on the outside. Clinton advisors and 3rd wave feminists Naomi Wolf are on the outside. Trump hating communists like Greenwald are on the outside. Lifelong Jewish Democrats like Kunstler are on the outside. NY Times editors like Bari Wiess is on the outside. The whole Jewish community is on the outside. The Black Christian community is on the outside. Every small investor is on the outside. 2/3 the cities and 90% of Flyover States are on the outside. Gay hairdressers from NY and trans people from “Walk Away” are on the outside, and actively attacked and purged. Feminist businessowners from Vermont like Borysenko are on the outside. Insiders like McConnell are on the outside. The whole U.S. Military is on the Outside. Could be Andrew Cuomo is now on the outside, taking Newsome with him.

    So…who’s on the inside? Victoria Nuland and Fang Fang?

    What do you think happens now, in that situation? I don’t have to do a thing. You’re doing a great job all on your own. You’re discredited, governors are telling you to F yourself, your currency is crashing, all I have to do is wait with great joy and anticipation at the revelation of your complete failure as human beings. And I can do it with popcorn, in the warm safety of my own home.

    #70157
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Oh! I missed it! Robin DiAngelo, Queen of Critical Race Theory, author of “White Fragility”, $500k-a-pop head of “Wokeness” is on the outside!

    She is now disavowing her own training materials from Coke that said: “Be Less White.”

    Well, what can you expect from a person who says in her own book that she’s a racist. What I couldn’t understand is why, if she’s a racist as she regularly says, everyone wants to follow her and do whatever she says and pays her, America’s most famous avowed racist, big money for her advice, and implement her every policy.

    Well, that’s what happens when #Logos, reason, logic, is your sole enemy.

    The Queen of Woke is on the outside.

    #70158
    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    They’re first going demand to see what he has and then silence him.

    • Why a Durham Report Is Becoming Highly Unlikely (ET)

    Hmm, Durham has been pretty silent on his own so shutting him up shouldn’t take much work.

    You’re using the wrong test.

    • Finland COVID-19 Variant Reportedly May Not Show Up In Tests (NYP)

    I love all this fear porn about virus variants. I’m pretty sure that right now I have an undiscovered Caribbean variant that evades tests, is highly contagious, often symptom-less yet kills frail old folks at a disproportionate rate and therefore requires my complete isolation on a sunny tropical island (or mega-yacht) until it is safe for the entire world to return to normal even though we have no idea who else may be infected with this virus variant.

    Good grief what a crock of shit.

    #70159
    absolute galore
    Participant

    For a while now I’ve had this urge to get a t-shirt printed up:

    F*$k Biden
    F*$k Harris
    F*$k Cuomo
    F*$k The NYT
    F*$k Lockdowns

    Or some such variation. In a nice square block print. Living in a smaller Hudson River town a ways up from NYC, I’m amazed and somewhat horrified at how quickly virtually everyone has adopted mask use–outdoors, on uncrowded sidewalks, on foot paths in the woods. As though passing by someone for 1-2 seconds is going to make you die.

    So good for Naomi Wolf. But I don’t see everyone on the outside. It’s scary how quickly people will adopt behaviors without any real reasoning or proof. I guess it could come in handy if/when a real disease comes along, a la the Plague. Meanwhile, walking down the street without a mask feels a little defiant, sometimes uncomfortable. I have to resist the occasional urge to put one on and blend in. In one hopeful sign, over the past week or two I have seen a handful of maskless fellow citizens. (At a city council meeting this week, a council member objected to the word “citizen” and instead suggested “community member.” I wish I was kidding.)

    #70160
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Kagan in any other venue would be bound, gagged, isolated and medicated with enough Haldol to tranquilize a herd of horses. Which brings to mind a recurring theme. One man’s, Kagan’s, megalomanias are another fellow’s grandiose delusions. Those people who adopt Kagan’s lunatic ravings aren’t some sophisticated, erudite priestly sect channeling world class insights. Rather, Albright et al by adopting and internalizing Kagan’s nonsense manifest collective madness or as written on these pages, shared psychosis. The word salad and verbal diarrhea spewed forth are signs of fragile mental health and not qualifications for reference or executive postings. Take care when these nutjobs and ne’er-do-wells develop a cult following among the ruling class.

    On related note, maybe the problem isn’t the destruction imposed upon society by antisocial personality disordered or narcissistic personality disordered people. Perhaps, what we’re witnessing, (medical martial law, high tech tyranny and extreme social isolation) is the result of letting Schizotypals and Schizoids loose from their naturally imposed, socially isolated coding basements to wreck havoc on society armed with a billion dollars each. What else should we expect from folk who eschew intimacy and human contact?

    #70161
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Currency failing? UST 10-years triple:

    10-year
    https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/bfm9A98.jpg?itok=C-p1xQ0K

    That’s going to leave a crater. Bye-bye. Interest on $27 Trillion just tripled.

    #70162
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Spring weather and walk in nearby cemetery, Huge and occupying two city blocks, established in mid XIX century still operating. Sidewalk trotting and breathing of car fumes replaced by pleasant setting of centennial trees, squirrels and birds. Solemn dignity of an old grave markers is slowly being replaced by the new graves with acid etched stone and questionable alloy plaques, set below the grass level for easy lawn mover rumble over it. Very few fellow walkers, heavily masked and approaching, would make a visible jerk-arc to avoid me, unmasked. Then I would ask them, since there the is a pandemic why is it that we are not witnessing at least 50 funerals, right at this moment? Wide eyed, puzzled they would reply that “Actually, they they just saw a few.”. Thus convinced.

    Naomi Wolf. While “some folks” were anxiously watching through the front window at any sign of Mao, Stalin, hammer and sickle marked anything, Solzhenitsyn and gulags corporate fascism slipped in through the back porch door and is already helping itself with the cappuccino machine in the kitchen. “Some folks”, again and still hope that the bulge in the pocket of intruder is abridged version of “Das Capital”.

    #70163
    John Day
    Participant

    @V.Arnold, from a few days ago.
    “Germ” is qualified to assess medical data.
    He studied pharmacology at university.
    Everything he sends me has been top notch.
    You have seen much of it here.
    I have thanked him as “Jeremy”.
    He has read TAE for a long time.

    #70166
    John Day
    Participant

    https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/02/great-resetters.html

    John Ward looks at the “Great Resetters”: Precisely what defines a Resetter?
    ​ ​Starting from a database of 37 million companies (he likes a challenge) Glattfelder used multivariate criteria to boiled off the number to just 1,318 (1) had ties to two or more other companies (2) had an average connection to 20 and (3) collectively owned huge chunks, through shares, the majority of the world’s large blue chip firms – accounting for 60 per cent of global business income.
    ​ ​The more one boils, the smaller the numbers get…with a top ten controlling four-fifths of everything everywhere. They are:
    1. Barclays plc 2. Capital Group Companies Inc. 3. FMR Corporation 4. AXA 5. State Street Corporation 6. JPMorgan Chase & Co. 7. Legal & General Group plc 8. Vanguard Group Inc. 9. UBS AG 10. Merrill Lynch & Co Inc.
    ​ ​Also present in the top 25 are Morgan Stanley, Credit Suisse, and Goldman Sachs.
    Yup, they’re all engaged in bancassurance, and they’re mainly Anglo-American. There are no big manufacturing, energy or pharmafia corporations in the Top 49. There is just one distributor in the shape of Wal-Mart at N° 15.
    T​ ​his is the key insight I offer on this data today: if you want to know what marks out a Great Resetter from the rest, it’s this: they don’t make anything – they simply move stuff around – but they do control the ownership of everything.
    ​ ​This makes them incredibly vulnerable to a global va​l​uation crash….but the only people truly able to engineer a ‘Reset’.
    That’s what I call money, means and motive. But would they ever try such a dastardly thing?
    EXPLOSIVE: STRING-PULLERS AUDITED

    Critics Must Be Silenced for Billionaires to Keep Profiting From Pandemic​, Robert F Kennedy Jr.​
    ​ ​On Feb. 15, the Jeff Bezos-owned Washington Post published a Feb. 11 Associated Press article applauding the censorship of those who criticize the government’s pandemic response policies.
    ​ ​The lockdown has netted Bezos $70 billion since its start. If you are Bezos, a permanent lockdown is a goldmine.
    ​ ​Bill Gates, meanwhile, has made $20 billion from the lockdown he previously war-gamed and then cheer-led. His strategy has included emasculating the independent media — the most likely sources of the sort of vigorous journalism that might otherwise scrutinize his self interest in the polices he helped successfully engineer for the rest of us.
    ​ ​Gates used millions in grants to transform the once proudly unbridled The Guardian into his personal newsletter. With $250 million, he purchased immunity from criticism by news operations like the BBC, NBC, Al Jazeera, ProPublica, National Journal, Univision, Medium, the Financial Times, The Atlantic, the Texas Tribune, Gannett, Washington Monthly, Le Monde and the Center for Investigative Reporting…
    ​ ​The mainstream network news shows, including CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox have put COVID Terror, Vaccines Salvation and the obligatory shaming of dissidents on a 24-hour loop with each segment (and I use this term in every sense of the word) with pharmaceutical advertisements.
    ​ ​These outlets have turned their weekly talk shows into fawning hagiographies for Gates’ regular satellite tours in which credulous, obsequious Sunday morning talk show hosts lob softball medical questions to a billionaire with no public health training.
    ​ ​Nobody ever asks Gates or his mini-me, Tony Fauci, why they chose to spend tens of billions in taxpayer dollars on speculative vaccines and zero dollars investigating the many off-the-shelf, off-patent medications that have demonstrated extraordinary success in the hands of private doctors — medications that might have ended the pandemic a year ago.
    ​ ​The media, which has enabled this global hostage crisis, is arguably the most consequential criminal enterprise in human history. As Rahm Emmanuel observed, “never let a good crisis go to waste.”
    ​ ​Gates and Fauci have demonstrated that by controlling the media, billionaires and their government cronies can prolong a crisis forever and accumulate unprecedented wealth and power over humanity.

    Critics Must Be Silenced for Billionaires to Keep Profiting From Pandemic

    Tom sends this historical parallel about the threat to Roman oligarchs by a populist Tribune, Tiberius Gracchus (RIP).
    ​ ​Tiberius Gracchus was a Roman politician and official in the Second Century BC. Gracchus was a member of the populares, a faction that sided with the plebian – the common people – against the conservative aristocratic patricians who had traditionally held power in Rome. At the time of Gracchus the small independent farmers of the Roman Republic were increasingly feeling economic pressure from the concentration of public lands into giant estates held by aristocrats. Rome, a nation whose strength had also been built on a class of free, independent men was now increasingly owned and controlled by a strata of oligarchs.
    Tiberius Gracchus proposed reforms to break up the giant estates and redistribute the land to average Romans. He was vehemently opposed to the aristocrats and made no secret of his intention to destroy their power. He was aggressive. He was loud. He threatened the entire power structure of those who believed the Republic belonged to them.
    ​https://andmagazine.com/talk/2021/02/09/killing-the-republic-trump-as-tiberius-gracchus/

    Finally the answer to why Gardasil reactions are so inexplicably bad, an “unlisted” ingredient. (“Contamination” is such an ugly word.)​
    New Study: Gardasil HPV Vaccine Contains Chemical Used in Biological Warfare
    PMSF, a nerve agent, is used to manufacture HPV vaccines, but it is not supposed to be in the final product.
    However, new research documents its presence in Merck’s Gardasil and Gardasil 9 HPV vaccines.

    New Study: Gardasil HPV Vaccine Contains Chemical Used in Biological Warfare

    #70167
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I used to perform music with some regularity at a local retirement community. That practice was, of course, suspended with the pandemic, and that retirement community has had no outside musicians perform in the last 11 months. Recently, the retirement community has had its entire staff and residents become vaccinated — the second course of vaccinations is nearly complete. I met with a friend and fellow musician from that community on Monday, and found out from him that the community is proposing to soon allow outside musicians again, as long as those musicians have been vaccinated.

    I currently have no intention of becoming vaccinated. I began to explain this to my friend who assured me, no problem, the retirement community could arrange for me to be vaccinated (since I am not slated for early vaccination due to my profession or age.) I continued my explanation that I currently have no intention of becoming vaccinated because I already had Covid, and therefore have natural immunity. (I’d be happy to provide a copy of my positive PCR test, and subsequent negative PCR test 11 days later — I do understand the concern of the administration of the retirement community.). Since we as yet have no real data on how long vaccine conferred immunity lasts, and insufficient data on how long natural immunity lasts, and cannot accurately compare the two, how can my natural immunity be viewed as any less valid than vaccine conferred immunity?

    I have been spared much of the lockdown insanity present in New England by living in Arizona, erstwhile home of the “Wild West.” Sure, some localities have public masking laws in place for indoor places (stores and such), and retirement communities have had to meet state guidelines, but most of the rest has been left up to local school districts and local businesses and churches to make their own decisions on how to operate in the midst of this pandemic thing.

    And yet, still, I am presented with a pernicious conundrum: do I submit to a foreign substance being unnecessarily being injected into my body so that I can return to my “normal” routine of performing music at this venue? How many other venues are going to place this requirement upon musicians? Is evidence of natural immunity to Covid even going to be allowed as an alternative to vaccination?

    #70169
    John Day
    Participant

    @Phoenixvoice:
    We don’t know the secret ingredients in any of the vaccines, or what the long term effects might be.
    Don’t risk it.
    Argue your natural-immunity case and they can discuss an exception for you.
    They like you, right?

    #70170

    These injections may well be the proverbial cliff your mother warned you not to jump off of with “everybody else”.

    #70171
    Dr. D
    Participant

    You probably saw the entire Federal Reserve System is down. Speaking of the system going down. Right. Now.

    So: printing $2T/quarter, immediately attack on GME that this tiny, meaningless stock is a threat to the whole system. Following attack on Silver, the Achillies Heel of the banks. Followed by a continuing BTC at $57,000. Followed by Yellen denials. Followed by Nigeria(?) giving up on USD and moving to BTC in central bank reserves. Followed by Interest Rates reversing and tripling. Followed by a un-advertised accident that takes out the anchor of the whole western banking system.

    I’m not a suspicious fellow, but after the dagger, the rope, the candlestick, and the lead pipe, I’m beginning to think somebody’s trying to kill Professor Plum in the Library. Now who would take out a tottering system that was about to collapse on itself anyway?

    Great reset indeed. Did they try ctrl-alt-del?

    #70172
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @V.Arnold, from a few days ago.
    “Germ” is qualified to assess medical data.
    He studied pharmacology at university.

    Mine was a fair question; not an attack. For what reason couldn’t he have given me a fair answer?

    We don’t know the secret ingredients in any of the vaccines, or what the long term effects might be.
    Don’t risk it.

    Interesting advice; I agree. I do not trust the galoots ramrodding this herd…

    #70173
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Long term covid now has an official name:
    “But during a press conference Wednesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, finally referred to it by an official name: PASC. “Many of you are now aware of what had long been called ‘long COVID’ but actually, what that really is is post-acute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection, which we’re now referring to as ‘PASC,'” Fauci said.”

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-given-name-by-experts-fauci-231226751.html

    #70174
    WES
    Participant

    Dr. D:

    Regarding Kagan and people “not” being willing to pay the price for empire. This happen to Britain after WW2!

    After WW2 ended Britain elected a new peace time Labour government, throwing out Churchill’s war time government. Since Britain was broke, a secret empire policy was devised by this new government to try and keep it’s empire.

    It left all the British troops, especially the airforce, stationed in Britain’s colonies in place, only demobilizing it’s European troops. The colonial troops were naturally not informed of this policy of course!

    It didn’t take long for the colonial troops to notice that they weren’t going home too. It wasn’t long before the conscripted citizen solders went on strike! The strike spread quickly to nearly all of Britain’s overseas military bases! The top brass called it a mutiny, arrested, and threatened to execute ring leaders, badly over playing their hand!

    Then supporting strikes started happening in Britain eventually forcing the new peace Labour government to back down and start bring the colonial troops home.

    After 6 long years of suffering to win WW2, the British people were in no mood to pay the price required to keep Britain’s empire! Shortly there after Britain granted independence to most of it’s colonies bring the mighty British empire to a sudden end!

    It was Kagan be dammed!

    #70175
    WES
    Participant

    I am not surprised by joe’s governments behavior.

    If you had just stolen the election wouldn’t you keep lots of troops on hand? Check.
    Since you know you are not the legitimate government wouldn’t you suppress all opposing voices? Check.
    Wouldn’t you try and exert maximum control over all aspects of society? Check.
    Wouldn’t you want total control of all forms of communications and media? Check.

    The beat goes on.

    It is only a matter of time before the people become disgruntled with joe.
    As things deteriorate the people will start blaming joe.
    Then the people might remember joe isn’t their legitimate president.
    Then joe becomes “not my president”!
    Oh, yes! Trump not my president!

    #70176
    WES
    Participant

    One of the top 10 companies John Day list, I believe controls the company that holds title to all of the US’s listed stocks!

    #70177
    Germ
    Participant

    @ V Arnold – I did not give you an answer simply because I had not yet seen your question.

    Now, what was is it again?

    #70179
    Germ
    Participant

    Not all vaccines are the same. For those who are in a situation where they are obliged to get a vaccine, choose wisely.

    And, yes, some folks are getting a choice:
    https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/24/which-vaccine-should-i-choose-serbia-gives-citizens-choice-of-four-coronavirus-jabs?minutetv=true

    Here, in Europe, travel will become very difficult without it:

    https://euobserver.com/political/151037

    https://www.healthpassportworldwide.com/

    https://murciatoday.com/galicia-introduces-fines-of-up-to-60000-euros-for-refusing-vaccination-as-part-of-anti_pandemic-legislation_1563611-a.html (poorly written, but you’ll get the idea)

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