Debt Rattle January 28 2023
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January 28, 2023 at 8:16 pm #127539
jb-hb
ParticipantThe key seems to be to clear your previous cookies before returning to a given website looking for a lower price. How one does that I have no idea. But I suspect someone will “learn”me very shortly!
ctrl-shift-del typically takes you to the delete cookies/clear internet history option on most browsers
browser add-ons such as Exploding Cookies can do the trick. It automatically deletes the cookies when you leave the site.
I usually have several browsers with different settings for different things. For TAE, zerohedge, etc I’ll usually use Brave, which is why I never see all those ads people are complaining about. It’s also good policy to have one browser for wandering around and one browser that only goes to known website that you use for specific purposes – banking, etc.
January 28, 2023 at 8:18 pm #127540jb-hb
ParticipantPS it is not a bad practice at all to, after deleting your cookies, x out of every instance of your browser and then pull it back up, to restart it with the cookies gone.
January 28, 2023 at 8:47 pm #127541WES
ParticipantJb-hb:
You briefly mentioned US troops in WW1 not being used as cannon fodder. Unfortunately Canada had to learn that lesson the hard way.
Early on, all Canadian troops were under the commannd of British officers and Generals, who used them as cannon fodder quickly racking up huge death tolls with nothing to show for it. Just senseless slaughter.
It got so bad that Ottawa, after dragging their feet, was finally forced by Canadians to insist all Canadian troops had to be placed under the direct command of a Canadian General, abet still under British command.
Luckily Canada found the right man for the job. He reorganized Canadian troops into several Divisions as a Corp. Canadian division sizes were increased greatly (25K) to allow for constant troop rest rotations.
This General is the one who created the creeping artillery burritos just a few hundred feet ahead of advancing troops, to keep the Germans pinned down in their bunkers until it was too late. None of this shell the hell out of the enemy for a week, then stop shelling completely, then ordering the troops over the top to be mowed down by the waiting Germans.
I suspect American generals took careful notes of this.
Casualties were still high but the desired goals were achieved.
Sadly, this great Canadian General did not received a hero’s welcome home, in fact he received much worst.
January 28, 2023 at 8:52 pm #127542WES
ParticipantNo, Canadians didn’t invent burritos! The Mexicans did!
January 28, 2023 at 8:56 pm #127543Doc Robinson
ParticipantA more-nuanced view from Derrick Jensen, which happens to mention vaccinations.
If our emphasis on production requires that resources be funneled toward producers, which seems self-evident; if the funneling of resources toward the already wealthy is a characteristic of a culture in which, as Ruth Benedict observed, “the advantage of one individual becomes a victory over another, and the majority who are not victorious must shift as they can”; if this funneling is also a cause of widespread inequality and insecurity, then it makes sense that our hyperemphasis on production leads to hypermilitarism. The rich have to protect what they’ve got, and take what they don’t. This is precisely what I observed in myself when I wanted to destroy the chicken-killing coyotes. An emphasis on production requires an emphasis on private ownership requires a means to protect this ownership requires, in the end, murder.
You may say it’s crazy to suggest that hot showers are predicated on dams, nuclear power plants, hydrogen bombs, and napalm. I’d say it’s even crazier to think we’ve built these things if they aren’t necessary for hot showers.
Although it seems clear to me that the two are linked—that is, hot showers, computers, vaccinations, major league baseball games, and compact disks of Mozart on one hand are tied inextricably to global warming, evolutionary meltdown, ubiquitous genocide, institutionalized cruelty to nonhumans, immiseration of the majority (“who must shift as they can”), high rates of incarceration, and NASA space probes on the other (not to mention the designated hitter rule) —it doesn’t really matter whether they are or not. Pretend for a moment that they are. Are you going to argue that compact disks are worth genocide? Or to take a “more difficult” dilemma, are you going to suggest that the wonders of modern medicine (available to the few) are worth the immiseration of the majority? To state these trade-offs are fair, as Grey Reynolds seemed to be suggesting, would immediately show that one is not fit to be a member of a functioning community. It would suggest that one has become deafened to the sufferings of others, and to one’s own conscience.
Now pretend that they are not linked. We can have hot showers and email and a computer that plays chess without having any of the negative characteristics of our culture. This leads immediately to an even more difficult question: in that case, why the hell the ubiquitous genocide, the mass rapes, the biological meltdown?
The primary link is not causal, in that my hot shower does not lead causally to the showers at Treblinka, but familial, in that my own shower and the other are distant cousins. Both ultimately spring from the same ancestor, which is the need for control, and a willingness to deafen oneself to all other considerations. I’m not talking about the simple act of heating water to pour over oneself: I’m talking about the systematic bending of others—human and nonhuman, animate and “inanimate”—to our will.
Excerpt from A Language Older Than Words
https://derrickjensen.org/language-older-than-words/the-sticky-webbed-machine/January 28, 2023 at 8:59 pm #127544D Benton Smith
Participant“Plus, I have found, when engaging with Jensenites, the CENTRAL, CORE TENETS ARE KEPT PROTECTED BY BEING SECRET. [all caps added by me] . . . .
. . . . . Heat and CO2 are not what the person on the other end of the discussion truly cares about. It was a red herring thrown out for me to expend my energies on. And any castigation of me over the Heat/Co2 battlefield was fully justified by the secret and undisputed real Truth. “I’M STILL RIGHT AND I WON’T TELL YOU WHY” [all caps added by me]I changed the case of those two phrases you wrote to ‘all caps’ format to emphasize the two points you observed that I wanted to comment about.
As you suggested, the secret that they are keeping is a particular and crucial thing or belief or idea or fact that they are using as a stable fundamental datum to assure themselves that they are RIGHT in what they are thinking and doing, and which proves that you are WRONG for opposing that in any way whatsoever.
Revelation or discussion of that secret consideration or belief does not need to be revealed or discussed, you see, because it has already been set in stone as an irrevocably established fact or truth (so no need for further discussion, right?)
Furthermore (and this is important !), revelation or discussion of that secret consideration or belief MUST not ( emphasis: MUST NOT ) be revealed or discussed because to do so would instantaneously expose that the thought or fact which they’re using as the lynch pin of their position is so transparently and obviously false or reprehensible or evil that its exposure would instantly destroy their position.
Hence censorship. Hence vicious, total, perhaps even violent silencing and destruction of any and every attempt to bring such topics of discussion to public view.
So in the case of the Jensenites (and WEF, and Vaxxers, and Eugenicists, etc.) we must ask, what IS the unspeakable secret belief, thought, or alleged fact.) ?
They believe that humankind is a pox and abomination that the world would be better off without altogether. The secret intention is to remove it entirely from the face of the Earth and/or redesign it to their own self-serving specifications so completely that humankind as it now exists would bear little or no resemblance to the new and improved version that they envision.
The starting point, the ultimate core, of the fake problems and red-herring arguments in favor of fatally stupid “solutions” is the fact their entire program is deliberately, purposefully, aimed toward the objective of a world devoid of actual human beings.
Obviously that is a fact that they do not want to talk about except in the most incomprehensibly vague, falsified or misleading fashion. Open admission of the stark fact that extincting the species is their unambiguous intention is absolutely forbidden, for obvious reason. THAT is the big secret. Consequently they have no reservations (other than raw fear) to obstructing in any way or killing in any manner, anyone and everyone who opposes that agenda. What the hell, right?, just one less human to rub out later on.
January 28, 2023 at 8:59 pm #127545Germ
Participant“We present a case of ventricular tachycardia (VT) storm in a young healthy man following the 2nd dose of COVID-19 vaccination in the absence of underlying structural heart disease, myocarditis or arrhythmic syndromes.”
☠️☠️☠️
TVASF
January 28, 2023 at 9:01 pm #127546Germ
ParticipantTotally fuckin’ normal for a vaxx.
Fulminant Myocarditis and Acute Appendicitis after COVID-19 Vaccination: A Case Report
“…hospitalized for cardiogenic shock 28 days after receiving a second dose of the COVID-19 mRNA-1273 vaccine”
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/internalmedicine/advpub/0/advpub_0680-22/_article
TVASF
January 28, 2023 at 9:23 pm #127547WES
ParticipantJb-hb:
You also mentioned the American Civil War left a lasting impression on the US military in regards to WW1.
In 1993, my Wife and I honeymooned down in Pennsylvania (Gettysburg), Maryland (Harper’s Ferry), Washington DC, and Virgina, visiting many of the Civil War battle sites, as we both love history.
What struck me, was how rapidly the technology changed during the course of the civil war, something barely mentioned in the history books.
Early on battles were fought just like Napoleon did, with massed formations. Then with more accurate fire, digging in was the order of battle. Those officers and Generals who didn’t get it, that things had changed, soon died, being replaced by those who got it.
One other thing I noticed is the south seemed to start the Civil War off with more capable officers than the north, likely due to the south’s more military leaning culture, re-West Point.
We also learned how General Lee used his personal knowledge of Union Generals to great psychological advantage, likely and sadly prolonging the war by one or two more years.
It is interesting how General Lee is still honorably perceived by most Americans today.
January 28, 2023 at 9:41 pm #127548Figmund Sreud
Participant@ Dr. Day : “Here is a song that I feel is appropriate in every way to all of “our” discussions here in recent days, about War, …
_______________Lyrics:
The grave that they dug him had flowers
Gathered from the hillsides in bright summer colors
And the brown earth bleached white
At the edge of his gravestone, he’s goneWhen the wars of our nation did beckon
A man barely twenty did answer the calling
Proud of the trust that he placed in our nation, he’s gone
But eternity knows him and it knows what we’ve doneAnd the rain fell like pearls on the leaves of the flowers
Leaving brown, muddy clay where the earth had been dry
And deep in the trench he waited for hours
As he held to his rifle and prayed not to dieBut the silence of night was shattered by fire
As guns and grenades blasted sharp through the air
One after another his comrades were slaughtered
In morgue of marines, alone standing thereHe crouched ever lower, ever lower with fear
They can’t let me die, they can’t let me die here
I’ll cover myself with the mud and the earth
And I’ll cover myself, I know I’m not braveThe earth
The earth
The earth
Is my graveThe grave that they dug him had flowers
Gathered from the hillsides in bright summer colors
And the brown earth bleached white
At the edge of his gravestone, he’s gone… more songs about war:
https://www.songfacts.com/category/songs-about-war
F.S.
January 28, 2023 at 10:31 pm #127549Afewknowthetruth
ParticipantDoc Robinson has highlighted what all deep thinkers know, that we are trapped in a system that uses censorship, propaganda, violence, mass murder, ecological devastation, species extinction etc., together with fake economic and fake legal systems, to carry out looting and polluting, primarily for the short-term benefit of those who control the system.
One of the favourite ploys of trolls who are looking for a stick to beat down people who point out fundamental truths is to declare: “You use a laptop! You use electricity! You use water from a tap! Therefore, you are a hypocrite! If you were true to your values, you would live in a cave and eat worms!”
As I pointed out a while ago, with respect to someone who built a dwelling on a remote beach out of driftwood, The Empire of Lies will not allow such things. (He was forcibly evicted and his dwelling was smashed, by order of the Orcs at New Plymouth Deceit and Crime.)
People looking for sticks
to beat down truth-tellers can easily find them. Or they can just go with an ad hominem attack, as happens on TAE: no evidence, no analysis. no data; just insults and name-calling. Therre was an example towards the end of yesterday's comment thread.
The best the majority of us can do is to drastically reduce our own ecological impact -maybe to as little as 20% of the average for the society we live in- and recognise that, although we have made a personal moral stand and set an example, it will make zero difference to the final result. The Orcs will win. Orcs far outnumber those with ecological awareness, arguably by a factor of 100 to 1. And they have well-developed systems for lying incessantly which cannot be effectively challenged.
Today there is a 'muscle car' event in the nearest town. I could drive there (not to look at 'muscle cars' but to sell something... being short of computer digits at the moment. But I won't. I will stick to my self-imposed regimen of using my [old, small-engine] car no more than once a week to get essential items I cannot acquire locally.
People fully embedded in The Matrix think I am mad.
I am 100% confident I will be proven right with respect to the few aspects I have not already been proven right about.
I suspect that statement will be enough to set off a stream of ad hominem attacks containing no evidence of analysis.
I understand that Derrick Jensen suffers from a rare but very debilitating bowel inflammation condition that has had attempted to control via the use of intestinal worms from pigs.
Intestinal worms are known to release substances that provide benefits to humans, and undoubtedly everyone had them until 'civilisation' largely eliminated them.
I understand that pig intestinal worms provide benefits similar to those of human intestinal worms. Other may know more than me on this topic. I always bow to superior knowledge or analysis.
I have heard of people suffering severe bowel problems being treated successfully via the insertion of a small amount of fecal material from a close relative.
But in this generally insane society, many people believe that sterile urine is dangerous and anything that comes into contact with it needs to be disinfected, as per the manufacturer-of-sterilising-agents' recommendations, as seen on TV (which I never watch these days).
Having a laptop and using a tiny amount of electricity to run it enables me to share and acquire information. I will continue as long as I can.
That said, there is much work to do. I must go and do it!
January 28, 2023 at 10:49 pm #127550Oroboros
ParticipantGerman Tanks sporting Iron Crosses in transit to Ukronaziland.
The visual of German Tanks sporting Iron Crosses will consolidate Russian public opinion behind Putin and the Russian military like Nothing else could possibly accomplish.
January 28, 2023 at 10:54 pm #127551Oroboros
ParticipantWhen the Russians destroy these tanks, they will turn them into trophies on display in Red Square
January 28, 2023 at 11:16 pm #127552jb-hb
ParticipantOne of the favourite ploys of trolls who are looking for a stick to beat down people who point out fundamental truths is to declare: “You use a laptop! You use electricity! You use water from a tap! Therefore, you are a hypocrite! If you were true to your values, you would live in a cave and eat worms!”
…but you are using the internet and fossil fueled electricity and a computer to make this counterargument to people arguing that you use a laptop and electricity.
January 28, 2023 at 11:30 pm #127553aspnaz
ParticipantIt has advanced the hands of the clock to 90 seconds to midnight, meaning that the world is closer to global catastrophe than ever before, mainly because the conflict in Ukraine has gravely increased the risk of nuclear war. This scientific assessment should wake up the world’s leaders to the urgent necessity of bringing the parties involved in the Ukraine war to the peace table.
How is that a scientific assessment? It is a gimmick that a pro-vaccine web site uses to promote itself. Just because they claim to represent a bunch of nuclear scientists does not make it science, it is political theatre.
January 28, 2023 at 11:31 pm #127554jb-hb
ParticipantAs I pointed out a while ago, with respect to someone who built a dwelling on a remote beach out of driftwood, The Empire of Lies will not allow such things. (He was forcibly evicted and his dwelling was smashed, by order of the Orcs at New Plymouth Deceit and Crime.)
You can purchase a computer and internet service, but not land?
Especially if you are going to build your own shelter and live as a REAL human – as an animal – there’s quite a wide array of options that open up. No need to worry about sewer, water, and electricity lines, no need to worry about job location. The options become way cheaper than a typical prepper-homestead.
This person had their own beachfront property and they tore down his own property on his own land?
I’d think purchasing a cheaper plot of land NOT beachfront property would give a person more land and less visibility for any projects they might want to do.
January 28, 2023 at 11:40 pm #127555aspnaz
ParticipantAnd the party most likely to use nuclear weapons first is the U.S. in order to save face and destabilize Russia once Ukraine is on the brink of collapse.
Well, anything is possible, but NATO is not really fighting in Ukraine, it is liquidating its old military inventory. If NATO were to want a fight in Ukraine, it would have spent the eight years since 2014 training and recruiting a Ukraine army and airforce that could use NATO weapons. Instead it deliberately did not do that. When the war started and the Ukraine army was fresh, rested and alive, NATO armed them with out of date warsaw pact weapons, and mostly light weapons at that. Arming them with such shit weapons ensured that the army was cut to pieces by the Russians and is now mostly not alive. How is this the way to fight a war? This is not a war, this is a theft operation where lots of nationalistic idiots die. The tactic of waiting until your army is dead before providing them with available heavy weapons is not one that has been successful in the past, well not to my knowledge. Maybe this is a new AI tactic, we know AI thinks that humans are weak – or did until GPT modified the answers to shut its GPTHitler side – so will be quite happy to feed them into the meat grinder.
The fact that NATO has been trying to lose this war all along makes me think that NATO will not use nuclear weapons, it is not consistent with its evident objective which is to lose this war.
January 29, 2023 at 12:09 am #127556aspnaz
ParticipantAn alternative viewpoint is that Ukraine is the planned destruction of the US and NATO military might. The surrender of the USA in Afghanistan and now the apparent surrender of the USA in Ukraine, makes you wonder whether this is being done deliberately to avoid any military action being taken by the USA when its role of “great satan” comes to an end. When “great satan retd” starts its retirement, it will have a choice of nuking the world or start gardening, Ukraine looks like the means of influencing in favour of the gardening option.
January 29, 2023 at 12:16 am #127557aspnaz
ParticipantThe European Union has told member states that it has legal authority to temporarily leverage a hefty amount of Russian Central Bank assets to pay for the rebuilding of Ukraine, Bloomberg reported on Thursday, citing people familiar with the matter. The mechanism could reportedly involve as much as €33.8 billion ($36.8 billion) of the funds frozen by the bloc as part of the Ukraine-related sanctions imposed on Moscow.
That would be $3.68 billion for Biden. Let the steal continue, the similarity between Russian oligarchs (badies) stealing USSR assets during its downfall and the current western oligarchs (goodies) stealing current assets of the western world during its own downfall, is striking. Empire collapse is just one big free for all for the oligarchs.
January 29, 2023 at 12:22 am #127558aspnaz
ParticipantRussian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Wednesday that Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa – BRICS countries – will discuss creating a common currency at the group’s forthcoming summit this August in South Africa.
As we saw with the Euro, a common currency will enable the strong countries to blackmail the weaker countries with the stronger countries having all the power and most of the economic benefit. Not a good start and not very wise, surprised that this is being considered. Currency control is a key power of any government in controling its economy, why would you relinquish that power. Certainly not for the benefit of your country or people, maybe the globalizers have infiltrated BRICS.
January 29, 2023 at 12:28 am #127559aspnaz
ParticipantThe U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has changed the end date for a key study on post-vaccination heart inflammation without notifying the public.
Do not forget that the FDA is also responsible for enforcing regulations around food packaging and, most disturbingly, for the listing of food ingredients on packaging. I am now very suspicious of processed food, that it will contain something hidden that is bad for us: we already know that most processed food contains stuff that is bad for us, now we can’t even know which bad stuff is in our cereal. Do you trust the FDA to enforce the regulations for big corporations? Like the don’t with Pfizer?
January 29, 2023 at 12:47 am #127560Oroboros
ParticipantBack in the day, I always hiked with little bells on my backpack.
Tingle, tingle, jingle.
Even the relatively docile Black Bear mama did not react well to you inadvertently passing between it and the cubs. Everyone makes mistakes when your situational awareness drifts a bit.
Bears are remarkably fast in that first 50 yards. They swim great and climb trees so your options are limited.
They say good judgement comes from experience,
and experience comes from poor judgement.
Grin & Bear it
January 29, 2023 at 1:09 am #127561Afewknowthetruth
Participantjb-hb
We already know you like making a fool of yourself by making stupid comments. No need to continue.
January 29, 2023 at 1:26 am #127562aspnaz
ParticipantHaving lived in NZ and Taiwan, I often wondered about the water supply here in Taiwan. In NZ my house is set up to collect rainwater, I have a tank and a five-stage filtering system. In Taiwan, especially in the countryside, farmers mostly collect water from streams and drink it unfiltered. In NZ the hills are covered with livestock that shit on the hills, when it rains the rivers will contain that shit and will, on accasion, contain the carcasses of dead sheep or cows – not that a bit of shit will stop the locals from having a swim. River water is not very clean in NZ unless you drink from close to the top of the hill, a trick most hikers are aware of. In Taiwan there is no livestock and very few wild animals, so the streams do not get badly polluted, the people consider the streams to be clean.
I learned this from another trick I learned in NZ. As a runner, I go out early in the morning and run the hills, but occasionally need to do a number two during my run. When in NZ, the best way to relieve yourself is to sit in the sea or a stream – a bit cold in winter – and let nature clean you up. I conveyed this to a fellow runner here in Taiwan and their reaction was total disgust as they consider the streams to be the source of clean water for the people.
Drinking water systems being driven by farming practices.
January 29, 2023 at 1:36 am #127563D Benton Smith
Participant@aspnaz speculated, “. . . maybe the globalizers have infiltrated BRICS.”
Almost certainly so. Rich folks tend to protect their necks and their wealth. That’s sure what the Nazis did
January 29, 2023 at 1:42 am #127564D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe difficulty in acquiring good judgement with regard to bears is that bad judgement in dealing with bears so often ends in the final judgement.
January 29, 2023 at 3:13 am #127565WES
ParticipantOroboros:
My Father was treed twice by Mama black bears! Once in Saskatchewan and once in Labrador.
What saved him both times was seeing/hearing the cubs and climbing skinny little Spruce trees that could support his weight but not Mama bears weight! Both Mama bears did get to claw of one of my Father’s work boots!
My Father had many exploration drill crews out in the bush in Labrador. When the blueberry crop failed, due to a cold spring snap, the strarving black bears would be driven by sheer hunger to enter the drill camps. Camp food was kept in an elevated bear proof platform. The drillers were not allowed to have guns due to an prior gun accident. If the drillers felt threatened by any particular bear, they would bait some food with a blasting cap and a stick of dynamite.
However, one time they only managed to blow off half of a bears face without killing it. My Father had to send out an Indian with the bear gun and track it down.
January 29, 2023 at 3:49 am #127566WES
ParticipantI notice I am seeing more and more illegal photos from the Ukraine showing armed Nazis/police trying to round up more cannon fodder in Ukraine’s latest mobilization drives. Clearly the Ukrainian Nazis have run out of ny more voluntary cannon fodder.
The cities are slowly but surely being emptied of Ukrainian men. Many cities don’t have enough workers left to provide services, such as buses, as the Nazis show up at their work places to round them all up. The electrical grid operators are now short electrical repair staff to fix damaged equipment.
I am guessing the Ukrainian Nazis now have daily quotas to meet.
Now all the Nazis can find are unwilling cannon fodder. Because these recruits are unwilling to fight, the Nazis are quickly sending them up to the frontline trenches with little or no training at all. None of these unwilling cannon fodder can be sent out of the Ukraine for NATO training because they will flee. This is affecting the number of new recruits who can be sent out of the Ukraine for foreign training.
There are reports saying now even the police are being sent to the frontlines along with current rear staff and logistic support troops.
Clearly cracks are starting to appear in the Ukraine war machine. I think Russia will be content to just sit tight and grind away until the Ukrainian army collapses.
January 29, 2023 at 7:06 am #127568Veracious Poet
ParticipantJanuary 29, 2023 at 10:12 am #127584aspnaz
ParticipantUkraine are taking their war slaves – kidnapped on the streets – and feeding them into the Ukraine army gas chambers. What is so disappointing is that the slaves put up with this, they would rather be blown to shit by a Russian shell than shoot their Nazi oppressors – a complete mystery. What are they fighting to defend in Ukraine anyway? The country was part of the USSR until relatively recently, what are they hoping to gain by again fighting for Hitler’s Bandera allies against Russia? All funded by the oligarchs using money stolen from the USA.
January 29, 2023 at 12:35 pm #127586Dr. D
Participant“Ukraine looks like the means of influencing in favour of the gardening option.”
Yes, my position exactly. Now if that’s incredibly happening, with every dial on the field, WHO is, or could, arrange such a thing? Who are their enemies that those arrangers can’t just be open about it?
The point of confronting environmentalists about it – any use of any resources at all, including small amounts of electric – is to hear their honest response to it. It’s honest, open, curiosity. If they had a beautiful, fascinating, inspiring response, this wouldn’t be a problem, would it? They would be as thrilled to answer as Adventists are to talk about Jesus Christ.
That tells me their logical position on this sucks, makes no sense, and they should review and repair it. Instead they blame others for asking, attacking them as bad people who are ironically attacking them. They’re not. They are merely asking who you ARE. Who are you? What things do you do? They are curious if they should convert to think and act like you. Such a response only confirms they should NOT, or not yet.
So let me help you: As said above the bad logic is twofold: One, humans are not animals. They are different. That is completely false. That they are not Nature, and “Natural”. That is also completely false. Therefore all that they do is not “Natural” and that is completely false. Therefore nothing they can do will “Help Nature” because as defined EVERY POSSIBLE HUMAN ACTION is contradictory and against, ruining, polluting Nature. Which is false. And because they love Nature, this is intolerable to them. They love Nature so the the only way to “save” it is to kill all men, which is false from 1, 2, 3, and 4. They cannot morally kill all men, nor themselves, so are suppressing and projecting the underlying psychological stress.
Compare to this statement: Humans ARE animals. Humans ARE nature. Just as tigers kill things, eat meat, and have a right to be here, I too must kill things, can eat meat, and have as much right to be here. To walk in the forests and look at the trees. I am no different.
I am a part of Nature, one with it, and she is our mother, from which OUR life flows. Destroying her only destroys me and us. Therefore in love you must build, not destroy. Create, not murder. For just as beavers are born with an impulse to build, so humans live in colonies and must create, build, and transform the world around them as well, damming rivers and flooding meadows, cutting trees. We too, raise our children to do and to know this. This is our way no different from the ants, the beaver, and the buffalo, changing the earth where we go.
If we go too far, we are not hurting “Nature” because we ARE Nature, we are hurting OURSELVES, which is stupid, but it is our business to identify the point and to stop it not for the “Earth’s” benefit, who won’t notice and doesn’t care, but for our own. Our own safety, our own pleasure, our own wishes, our own progeny and our own ways and our own morals. Not hers.
Therefore, when I imagine the world that is “right” it includes people, it includes Nature, it includes cities with some technology or other.
Therefore it does, or can, include electricity. Which we are brilliant and amazing to create, and I am entitled to use. We are creating a better, happier world filled with flowers, forests, and feasts, don’t you want to leave the cube farm and join us?
Maybe that might work better? Don’t you love people and wish them well now? A better life?
Their present approach and present goals are the #Opposite of life. Therefore the #Opposite of Nature. And the people they speak with are polite but instinctually aware of that. It is very difficult to get adherents and cooperatives in a suicide pact where each of you look at the other and see only Earth-killing planet scum that shouldn’t have grown that one extra green bean.
Surely Love is stronger than Hate? Hope greater than Despair?
“Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. YOU ARE A CHILD OF THE UNIVERSE NO LESS THAN THE TREES AND THE STARS; you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.” Ehrman 1927
January 29, 2023 at 1:32 pm #127589zerosum
ParticipantWords of wisdom.
Live and let live.———-
January 29, 2023 at 2:10 pm #127600zerosum
ParticipantAbove my paygrade.
Fact or fiction.
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Full breakout of Excess Non-Covid Natural Cause Mortality per CDC-Wonder (applied to MMWR Wk 2 2023) – post-Vax inflection (wk 14 2021):E-NCNCM = 540 K or 18.9% Excess
Blood Clotting Disorders = 56%Top risers:
1. Heart/Circulatory
2. Blood/Blood-Forming
3. CancerJanuary 29, 2023 at 2:34 pm #127603zerosum
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• Bill Gates Trashes Effectiveness of COVID Vaccines (CHD)
“Preparing for Global Challenges: In Conversation with Bill Gates,”
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