Debt Rattle July 30 2020
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July 30, 2020 at 9:51 am #61623Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Elliot Erwitt New York 1955 • Russian COVID-19 Vaccine Approval Imminent (R.) • 3/4 of Recovered Coronavirus Patients Have Heart Damage Months
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 30 2020]July 30, 2020 at 12:47 pm #61624Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterUS economy down 32.9%. Wow
July 30, 2020 at 1:02 pm #61625Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterAnd Trump wants to delay the election. It gets better
July 30, 2020 at 1:53 pm #61627Mr. HouseParticipant“Can someone explain what is wrong with a temp extension of unemployment benefits and the eviction ban, given that the sides are miles apart?”
Will extending it accomplish anything? Someone the other day said things aren’t black and white, but i’m beginning to think that is a copout. If you extend this, will those people suddenly have enough money later to be able to afford what they can’t afford now? I for one would love to see lower rents due to some pressure being relieved on the market. I for one would love to see lower housing prices due to some pressure being relieved from the market. Can we all win in this life Raul? And these are the same people we’ve been telling for years to save as much money as you can, the system isn’t working in your favor. Perhaps you shouldn’t have bought a house in the past ten years but booooy you couldn’t resist those low low interest rates huh? 2008 was a learning moment, and many people decided not to learn the lesson. So if you saved and you’ve been building savings just for a moment like this, who do you screw? The people who saved nothing or the people who understood the game and have been waiting patiently for something like this to occur?
July 30, 2020 at 2:28 pm #61628Mr. HouseParticipant“Perhaps you shouldn’t have bought a house in the past ten years but booooy you couldn’t resist those low low interest rates huh?”
Not to mention that you don’t even have to put any money down these days! What is it, 1% or 3% you have to be able to put down to buy a house? I think my old man told me his first house was 20% down. What is wrong with that? Oh well if you’re trying to keep the ponzi scheme that is our housing market alive, you can’t demand that people put 20% down. Sales would drop, perhaps prices would go down, and we can’t have that. That’s just heartless to demand any sort of responsibility of people. Only a sadistic republican would demand that people be responsible. Ah but the people at the top aren’t responsible, so whats so bad about people at the bottom trying to get their beak wet, just a little.
July 30, 2020 at 2:39 pm #61629zerosumParticipantElliot Erwitt New York 1955
…. the smog was moved to China
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I like what Huskynut and Craig Morris observed and summarized in yesterday’s postHydorchloroquine is effective in the early stages of the disease but not so effective later
* Zinc, vitamin C and vitamin D are all helpful against the disease
* Obesity and diabetes make one a lot more susceptible to the diseaseV. Arnold encapsulated what we,( the majority), at TAE have concluded.
Covid is real, but the way it has mesmerised the world is not.
The result is deadly at the least; and destructive of the last threads of western society at most…I would add that, maybe, only 10% of the world can see what we see at TAE
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I spent 3 night at + 1 km elevation,
My obsevations …. campgrounds are overflowing, majority are in new tents, majority are not retired, heat dome extends higher than + 1 km, social distancing is having an impact on activities, I took vitamin D regularly, even though there was potable water, campers are bringing bottled water,On my return from being off grid and getting reconnected to the news
…. the fight against Hydorchloroquine has intensified.
….. my respect for what is motivating the ruling classes and US justice system of our society has gone down hill.
…… campers will find that the rules of law will disappear faster than bottled water
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• Russian COVID-19 Vaccine Approval Imminent (R.)
Din’t your hear, Russia and China stole their research info from USA /s
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• Brazil Hits Record Daily Coronavirus Cases, Fatalities (R.)
In the number one spot is the USA.
Good thing that the USA has the best health system in the world. (for those with money), otherwise Brazil would not be so close to overtaking the USA. /s
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“Theoretically, you should protect all the mucosal surfaces,” Fauci added.
I would add, “go live on your private island with service by servants that have been tested negative for covid19” /s
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• A $10 Trillion Corporate Debt Bomb Is Waiting to Explode the US Economy (NW)I don’t think, for one minute, that the well connected rich leaders of our society will let their fortunes disappear. Watch closely …. the jubilees for the selected industries are already happening.
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• China Needs ‘Explosive’ Buying To Meet US Farm Import Target (R.)
Hahahahah! Those Chinese forgot that the USA has the guns. Hahahahah /s
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CNN and others are pushing pure propaganda against hydroxychloroquine. It’s really astonishing to see such censorship against the president and others in what is supposed to be a free society.”What can I possibly say.
Its hard for TAE to be humble“Oh Lord it’s hard to be humble
When you’re perfect in every way
I can’t wait to look in the mirror
‘Cause I get better looking each day.”——
No problem… yet … wait …its coming …. the magic marker
Tropical Storm Isaias Forms With South Florida In Crosshairs
(and Cuba and other islands)
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Oil Prices Plummet, WTI Accelerates Below $40 As Demand Fears Rise
WHAT!!!
Did someone figure out that with all the reservoirs full that demands would be less. /s
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US Q2 GDP Crashes By A Record 32.9%, Worse Than Great Depression
How did this piece of data get pass the controllers? /sJuly 30, 2020 at 2:41 pm #61630Mr. HouseParticipantwhen you think about it economics is alot like covid 19. It is a system that we all live in, and if the majority of actors are not responsible it ends up hurting other people. Hence i wear a mask when i’m in a store because i don’t want to hurt anyone else. But in economics, who gives a s$%^ about responsibility, so don’t lecture me about being responsible
July 30, 2020 at 3:11 pm #61631GeppettoParticipantRaul wrote:
“And Trump wants to delay the election. It gets better.”
???? Now, why in the world would you use the word ‘better’ to describe a negative potential outcome? Weird. Some kind of cynical and jaded use of language…??
Another day and the sky is still falling. Lots of observations and very little creative solution. At least Dr.D wants to keep the things that do and did work and Dr.John wants us to get the garden growing.
Easy to *observe* what is wrong, hard to change it after the fact. What can we change? How about the way we think? Like, inside our own heads. Are we really sure that our thoughts are our thoughts?
What can you change? What do you really know? Work your own problem.
Have a great day kiddies gotta go make some shoes.
Ciao
https://www.britannica.com/video/185522/interpretation-thought-experiment-cat-Schrodinger
July 30, 2020 at 3:14 pm #61632Doc RobinsonParticipant3/4 of Recovered Coronavirus Patients Have Heart Damage Months Later (People)
That’s a rather generalizing headline from People magazine (which is usually focused on celebrity news), but this is not a method for obtaining conclusive results:
“The researchers examined cardiac MRIs from 100 recovered COVID-19 patients between the ages of 45 to 53, and compared them to MRIs of similar people who did not contract the virus.”
The publisher JAMA Cardiology, admits that “There are important residual questions about potential selection bias and generalizability…”
We wish not to generate additional anxiety but rather to incite other investigators to carefully examine existing and prospectively collect new data in other populations to confirm or refute these findings.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768915
That being said, the CDC data shows that April excess deaths from circulatory diseases were much higher than the excess deaths due to respiratory diseases:
https://imgur.com/WxijxDIhttps://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
July 30, 2020 at 3:15 pm #61633anticlimacticParticipantTwitter seems to be very active in deleting anything suggesting HCQ is effective against C-19.
I wonder whether they could be charged with corporate manslaughter?!
July 30, 2020 at 3:25 pm #61634Mister RobotoParticipantCovid denialism and conspiracy-theories kill people. The latest casualty is Herman Cain.
July 30, 2020 at 3:26 pm #61635Maxwell QuestParticipantContrast the news of the day with the stunning Knossos fresco which Ilargi posted yesterday and the psychic dislocation is enough to invoke a seizure. Can you imagine anything of such beauty and grace coming from the minds of either Pelosi or Nadler? Fixated on their own lust for power they, like vampires, feed upon the lives they were put in power to nurture. There is nothing special about them in particular, they were just mentioned as examples of the leadership that now infests all our institutions and economic structures.
This theme seems to be endemic today, the powerful preying upon the weak. It is tolerated, accepted, encouraged, and now rewarded. Can such a system long endure when the corruption typically found in the gutter is enshrined as the driving engine of the nation?
Life is just something that is shoved into their meat-grinder so that dollars can flow out the other side and into their pockets. Take HCQ for example. Think of all the lives that have been and will be sacrificed, especially in the west where business runs government, because the pandemic is seen as a profit generator. Murder for money? Certainly, but it’s a respectable murder, not like that dirty stuff one finds in alleys. Oxycontin, same thing. How about sitting behind a computer monitor in an air-conditioned office manipulating commodity prices that result in the starvation of a few million? It’s the same. Hey, good work on those wheat futures, Joe, here’s your bonus.
July 30, 2020 at 3:57 pm #61636Dave NoteParticipantDr ‘Faust’ Fauci
Brad Pitt shamelessly kissing his ass
July 30, 2020 at 4:13 pm #61638Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterDave Note, putting a video in IMG tags doesn’t work.
“And Trump wants to delay the election. It gets better.”
???? Now, why in the world would you use the word ‘better’ to describe a negative potential outcome? Weird. Some kind of cynical and jaded use of language…??
Just a precursor of things to come, Geppetto, that’s all. This is nothing.
July 30, 2020 at 4:32 pm #61639GeppettoParticipantCome on Raul!
“Just a precursor of things to come, Geppetto, that’s all. This is nothing.”
You did it again! You just made a very important potential outcome ‘nothing’.
Really?
By predicting the future you are creating the future!
It’s your blog and you can sponsor any kind of position you want. You can even *enforce* if you like.
Thank you for letting me participate.Cat in the box. You have no *real* idea.
Peace
CiaoJuly 30, 2020 at 4:35 pm #61640Mr. HouseParticipant“This theme seems to be endemic today, the powerful preying upon the weak. It is tolerated, accepted, encouraged, and now rewarded. Can such a system long endure when the corruption typically found in the gutter is enshrined as the driving engine of the nation?”
When in human history has this not been the system? Cloud atlas (a great movie and book) had a line “the weak are meat that the strong do eat”. Life is just one never ending stint in high school. The strong and powerful didn’t bully the weak in high school? That’s why i can’t get down with BLM and all these social justice movements. That type of bullying happens to everyone and anyone.
July 30, 2020 at 6:37 pm #61642zerosumParticipant” ….. bullying happens to everyone and anyone.”
Unfortunately, in this dog-eat-dog world, there are always a “dominant” and “submissive” force. Most of the time, the strong conquers the weak; the weak is subjugated by the strong. This is how the world works. One can never end this sheer cycle as far as humanity has gone. Look at how the gentler and smaller animals are being abused, tormented and exploited by the stronger and tougher ones. The predators eat the meat of the preys without mercy and with only selfishness. There are always “strong” and “weak” ones, depending on the benchmark of the society that values or labels different types of characteristics or traits as strengths. In some societies or states, the advent of mass media which leads to the widespread of the idea that the “rich”, “cool” and “popular” kids are successful in getting what they want causes “nerds” and “independent thinkers” to be bullied. While in other societies where the well-educated and “cultured” elites are more affirmed and acknowledged, the uneducated are scorned and belittled. Getting passed over for a promotion, for a raise, by someone else less competent than you is a form of bullying and discrimination. Few people feel that the world has treated them fairly.
July 30, 2020 at 6:37 pm #61643John DayParticipanthttp://www.johndayblog.com/2020/07/not-deceived.html
What is the best way to enslave (other) people?
This is the important and recurrent question, plaguing our shadowy puppet-masters again these days.
It has already been established that physically enslaving people is very costly, brutal, and inefficient, because the slaves know they are slaves and hate their masters, who they are able to identify and take revenge upon.
Debt slavery was the permanent-fix, but it is also showing signs of weakness. It needs shoring up with better marketing.
Other aspects of technology also demand consideration. Machines are better slaves for a lot of work than people are, and machines are getting better at running the machines. They also show promise in learning to fix other machines, and AI is good at figuring out what is wrong, so most of the debt-slaves will soon become redundant to industry.
Economics still needs “markets”, so living humans will buy and use stuff, as long as they have money.
Our puppet-masters hate giving handouts to “useless eaters”, but they are having to wade in that pond a little this year.
This is all so confusing, because we are made to live in a world of other people, animals and plants.
We just don’t think and feel right to deal with a world of machine-slaves, which we rule absolutely.
Maybe our shadowy puppet masters can find a way to transfer their consciousnesses into super-intelligent AI platforms, and live forever, ruling a world of other intelligent and less intelligent machines.
Until then, there is another war on, the war for our consciousnesses, but there is armed back-up, to make sure our bodies comply, until our consciousnesses are completely subsumed into the nice Borg.A Polish writer lays out the war underway, between elite factions, to control our conscious worldviews. Thanks, Eleni.
For six thousand years, since the invention of the wheel, the measure of human progress was movement, the ability to move. There is something … fair in the fact that the end times we seem to live in are heading towards the complete immobilization of humanity. This is no accident, though for at least several decades, if not for 100 years, that the technological progress has been sought in the old way: individual wings, flying cars, even teleportation, and of course the conquest of space – but real… traffic is in the opposite direction. It is no accident that the word “communication” means both straight transport and information transfer. At least from the expansion of the internet, if not from the proliferation of personal computers, humanity pulls feathers from its wings by itself, wanting to be stuck in one place, but not in the old, safe, high, community sense, but in extreme individuality combined with extreme susceptibility to external imprinting. Dystopian visions of passive skin bags connected to information systems are dangerously approaching as the future of the human race.
And this fight is accelerating right before our eyes. On the one hand, we have been more than ever chained to computers, online banking, closed and isolated. At the same time, the signs of material culture are being destroyed, the same which could lead (at least the wanted ones) to a conclusion, that there had once been some other reality. And finally, at the decision-making level, there is a war – a real, global, and ruthless war over resources, sources and tools of power and control. And the only positive (?) is that this time that conflict is not about our lives, but only our consciousness, so something that when we lose it, we will not remember that we ever had it…
http://oneworld.press/?module=articles&action=view&id=1539Who are those Federal Military squads, hustling civilians away in unmarked vans, without ID or due-process, up in Portland.? Thanks, Jerry.
Bortac, a quasi-militarised outfit some compare to the Navy Seals, has been deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan In January 2011, James Tomsheck, then a top internal affairs investigator inside US Customs and Border Protection, attended a meeting of about 100 senior CBP leaders in a hotel in Irvington, Virginia.
Amid the sanitized splendor of the hotel ballroom, he vividly recalls hearing the nation’s then highest-ranking border patrol agent, David Aguilar, laying out his vision for the future. Border patrol, the former CBP deputy commissioner said, was to become the “marine corps of the US federal law enforcement community”.
Another leading CBP figure remarked that border agents were not required to adhere to the same constitutional restraints on the use of force as other law enforcers. “We are not cops,” he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/27/trump-border-patrol-troops-portland-bortacIn my last post, “Cooperative Survival”, I linked to an 89 page online pre-publication, “Rethinking Humanity”, about a “different” predictive model of human near-term future. The introduction was promising, appeared to have “good facts” and seemed rational. A couple of sharp commenters at the blog replied with further insights after reading into it.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/585c3439be65942f022bbf9b/t/5ef223cbff5d8e025b9d2fee/1592927193457/RethinkX+Humanity+Report.pdf
I read further, myself, and my view changed from curiosity about answers, to curiosity about seductive threats to humanity. I read it entirely, so you don’t have to.
The history of human societal endeavor is fairly well laid out, in a useful way, going into the reset we have just entered. We are faced with the threat of a new-dark-age. Yet there is the promise of a quantum leap to a new economic paradigm of freedom, freedom from want and coercion.
Humanity needs a new operating-system. The operating system of the age-of-empires won’t work, because it is extractive, and extraction of human and environmental resources at global scale has put us in the binds that we now see everywhere we look.
The new operating-system will need to arise spontaneously. We can’t create it, because we are bound by the worldview of the current operating system, “global capitalism”, if I may give it a name.
This arising of a new paradigm usually takes hundreds of years, but we are hopeful that we might get it in 5-10 years this time. We just need to prepare ourselves and wait-for-it. The new paradigm will not be coercive, extractive, nor elitist. Anybody going into it with that predatory and competitive mindset will just be left behind by history.
This new economy will not be based upon scarcity, because the new green energy and genetic engineering of microbes to make our food will be so vastly more productive than anything we have ever seen, that they will just leave the current systems of production in the dust. Nobody will need to “work”, as we have always known it, either. We will all be able to find the true spiritual and artistic meaning in our lives.
We will not burn fossil fuels, even for heat or cooking. Nor shall we drive cars. We will use autonomous electric transport of many types, which will be cheaper, safer and more reliable. We can get rid of almost all parking places and a lot of roads. All the roads can be repurposed moment-to-moment for all kinds of traffic flow. Remembering how to get places, or even which side of the road to ride your bike upon will be things of the past. Traffic will all be a big, busy, efficient flow, and Sirie will direct you if you are on a bike.
Cities will become much more efficient, and will be able to safely grow to sizes of 100,000,000 or more, while providing 500 square feet of living space per human, and genetic-designer food, tastier than what we have known until now, from microbial manufacture, close to where we live.
Plants and animals won’t need to take up land area, which can be reforested to solve global warming.
All old industries will be defunded and regulated against, so internal combustion vehicles and gas stoves will phase out by 2030, or 3035 at the latest.
Capitalists will not profit from the limitless-solar-electric-society, because all of people’s retirement funds will be directed to invest in this productive and safe new world, perfectly meshing the needs of society with the provision of those needs. A bit of raw-material will be needed to “seed” this new world, but just a bit at the beginning. It will all enter a stream of intelligent re-use and recycling after that.
The new paradigm will do all of this very efficiently, without need for government oversight or regulation, except as it pertains to mandating the new way and defunding and criminalizing the old ways, which is a temporary formality in the transition period. Predatory efforts to enslave other humans will just get left-behind as the paradigm unfolds.
Investments and profits would clearly still appear on the books in the transition period, but would just as clearly be swept away by the power, elegance and sublime-equanimity of the new paradigm. Anybody caught with their pants down, mired in capitalist exploitation of others, will be chagrined at least, as the tide of inevitable improvement sweeps them downstream to the Niagara Falls of history.
You may see some interim problems, or potential snags in that plan.
What happens if the new paradigm doesn’t arrive right away. Will we be in a holding pattern for 400 years, having already thrown away the past?
What about those greedy capitalists, who bought-up the privatized-by-design all electric economy? What keeps them from just squeezing everybody to the last drop of blood, while the new paradigm waits to manifest? What if such capitalists were to swindle all the retirees out of their fractional ownership of the smart-electric-economy? What would become of them/us?
I am dismayed that this plan does not have any interim failsafe mechanisms, in case the new paradigm takes centuries to arrive. I just can’t advise you to put all your eggs in this innovative basket until the new paradigm is already here and we’re all cool with it.
For now, I’m still growing vegetables the old fashioned way, pedaling and navigating my own bike through the crazy old-style traffic on Texas roads.
http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/07/not-deceived.html
Picture of Jenny standing with okra, blackeyed peas and still some tomatoes, as she recovers from surgery 2 weeks ago, along with more truth to set y’all free, available at link.July 30, 2020 at 7:15 pm #61644Mr. HouseParticipant@ Zerosum
Yep. Ever had a corporate boss who didn’t like you just because? Not because you did a bad job, in fact they knew the rest of the group couldn’t get the workload done without, but because you wouldn’t bend the knee and kiss the ring, they made your life a living hell?
July 30, 2020 at 7:26 pm #61645Mr. HouseParticipantHe took the kid
He wants the right
They took his ears
They took his eyes
They said a ride
Is never free
He couldn’t hear
He couldn’t see
Well there are things
That have to die
So other things
Can stay alive
The fire burns
It burns to give
It has to burn alive to live
The other men spoke low
They took a vote and said no
They turned around real slow
Where did they go? Where did they go?
And the question oh, the question
Can the kid keep his eyes?
And the fire doesn’t die, said, “no”
Said, “no”
Said, “you don’t know what king we serve, boy
Oh, you don’t know what things we employ”
The other men spoke low
They took a vote and said no
They turned around real slow
Where did they go? Where did they go?July 30, 2020 at 7:56 pm #61646RototillermanParticipant@Geppetto, Raul’s use of the word better was, I believe, in the spirit of someone saying, “it just gets more surreal.” Kind of like standing around the water cooler and someone says, “You won’t believe this! Trump just raised the possibility of delaying the elections!” Personally I think he is just pulling their (the TDS crowd’s) chain, just to make them bark, bark, bark.
July 30, 2020 at 9:08 pm #61647Maxwell QuestParticipant@Mr. House
In response to your Cloud Atlas quote I offer the following lines from the movie Contact, in which a manipulative science advisor, Drumlin, uses political clout and deception to cheat Ellie Arroway out of the rightful claim to her discovery:
David Drumlin: “I know you must think this is all very unfair. Maybe that’s an understatement. What you don’t know is I agree. I wish the world was a place where fair was the bottom line, where the kind of idealism you showed at the hearing was rewarded, not taken advantage of. Unfortunately, we don’t live in that world.”
Ellie Arroway: “Funny, I’ve always believed that the world is what we make of it.”
Since we don’t live in a world of philosopher kings, I believe the burden falls on each one of us to ensure that the society we live in is not a ‘dog-eat-dog’ or ‘rule of the jungle’ experience. We would not accept this happening to our loved ones, and neither should we accept it happening to the weakest or most vulnerable among us. If we do, we condone it and are worthy of nothing better.
July 30, 2020 at 9:28 pm #61648Mr. HouseParticipant@maxwell quest
I concur sir. I live what i preach. My father always taught me to take responsibility for my actions. I’ll keep an eye out for that movie. Another good quote from cloud atlas to equal out my cynicism:
Belief is both prize & battlefield, within the mind & in the mind’s mirror, the world. If we believe humanity is a ladder of tribes, a colosseum of confrontation, exploitation & bestiality, such a humanity is surely brought into being, & history’s Horroxes, Boerhaaves & Gooses shall prevail. You & I, the moneyed, the privileged, the fortunate, shall not fare so badly in this world, provided our luck holds. What of it if our consciences itch? Why undermine the dominance of our race, our gunships, our heritage & our legacy? Why fight the “natural” (oh, weaselly word!) order of things?
Why? Because of this:—one fine day, a purely predatory world shall consume itself. Yes, the devil shall take the hindmost until the foremost is the hindmost. In an individual, selfishness uglifies the soul. For the human species, selfishness is extinction.
July 31, 2020 at 12:32 am #61649zerosumParticipantDid you read this?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/yale-epidemiologist-accuses-fauci-misinformation-campaign-against-hydroxychloroquine-fda
Ohio Withdraws Ban On Hydroxychloroquine; Fauci Accused Of ‘Misinformation Campaign’
Health officials from China, Korea, India, Taiwan, Malaysia, Bahrain, Turkey, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Morocco, Algeria, Nigeria, Senegal, Cuba, Italy, and 65 scientific studies have shown hydroxychloroquine is effective when used early against COVID19.July 31, 2020 at 1:09 am #61650my parents said knowParticipantThe Borg: I am species 8472. To us, resistance is not futile. We have not been assimilated. We live in fluid space.
The only thing that could really change the future is for humans to ditch their “smart” phones.
Nah. Gonna. Happen..
I declare a new religion: Neoluddite. We resist being forced to use any technology. We don’t shun it, but we will not rely on it. I’m thinking our emblem will be a postage stamp with a bicycle on it. One of our rituals will be the Night of Soft Connection: Smoke signals, Aldis Lamps, semaphore flags….whoever can get the message from here to there first, wins.
We are not pacifists, but we make rotten military recruits. We recognize no entity as deserving of worship, no matter the claim to superiority.On the pontoon today here in sunny, high summer Minnesota, an Asian Giant Hornet (Vespa mandarinia) flew over us. Maybe I’ll put it on the postage stamp instead of a bicycle.
Thank goodness it freezes hard here.
MAN, that thing was BIG! (2″ long with 3+” wingspan).Just free-associating. Except for the hornet. I suspect it was someone’s “pet” that escaped, cause that’s how we roll in the USA. My neighbor has honeybees, so I will mention it to him.
It was not a cicada killer. I know my local insects.
July 31, 2020 at 1:16 am #61651my parents said knowParticipantzerosum: I expect the next big story to say that there’s a contaminated batch of HCQ out there….
They always double-down, don’t they?
But yes, good news.July 31, 2020 at 1:18 am #61652V. ArnoldParticipantUS economy down 32.9%. Wow
That is a jarring figure; a historic milestone of sorts…
Trump’s failures are stunning…and dangerous as hell…
That drop of GDP is going to have very dramatic repercussions across the board.
The hellscape that is the U.S., has just entered Dante’s inferno…
The U.S. is already a very sick society; I fear what’s to come because it will have a profound effect on the world…
Buckle up…July 31, 2020 at 1:26 am #61653V. ArnoldParticipantOn the pontoon today here in sunny, high summer Minnesota, an Asian Giant Hornet (Vespa mandarinia) flew over us. Maybe I’ll put it on the postage stamp instead of a bicycle.
Thank goodness it freezes hard here.
MAN, that thing was BIG! (2″ long with 3+” wingspan).I live with them; not a big deal unless you mess with them. I accidentally stepped on one a few years back; mother of god it hurt…agony for 13 hours…
To be clear; when I said not a big deal I meant, they are not agressive like the Aficanized bees.
I can’t see them surviving a winter in your neck of the woods.July 31, 2020 at 2:09 am #61654my parents said knowParticipantThanks V. A. I’m glad to know they won’t survive the winter. I heard they attack honeybees. There are a number of folks with hives around here. True?
Handsome critter, nevertheless.July 31, 2020 at 2:44 am #61655V. ArnoldParticipantI heard they attack honeybees. There are a number of folks with hives around here. True?
That, I’m not sure. We have had wild Asian honey bees nesting in our Mango trees and never a problem from the hornets.
Western press likes to overly dramatise everything…Handsome critter, nevertheless.
Yes, aren’t they though… 😉
July 31, 2020 at 3:37 am #61656V. ArnoldParticipantI declare a new religion: Neoluddite.
Nah, not new at all. I’ve been a practicing Neo-Ludite for decades… 😉
March 24, 2021 at 11:06 am #71675ASVPRockParticipantI see our country’s economy suffering now, and it makes me very sad. My daughter thinks that we are moving forward and does not notice that ten years ago our country had much more opportunities. Gradually, the economic situation is affecting the routine life of citizens. In order not to miss the deadline for paying my rent, I had to take out a small loan, which later became unrealistically large, because the interest was rising and I could not pay. It got to the point where creditors started harassing me and I was forced to seek help from a bankruptcy lawyer san diego
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