July 30, 2021 at 3:21 pm #81471
Flint Michigan and its water, how long did that go on? But they CARES ACT about you 😉July 30, 2021 at 3:21 pm #81472Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
The CDC slidedeck that the CNN, WaPo etc. articles are based on is here. Dig in!
One line from the CNN piece, posted here yesterday, that sticks with me is:
..unpublished data that shows fully vaccinated people might spread the Delta variant at the same rate as unvaccinated people…
That would appear to mean zero effect on transmission, zero Kelvin. No reason left to get vaccinated, not for society at least. And no reason to hand vaccinated people any benefits, privileges like access to restaurants, planes etc. We’re all the same again. Liberating.July 30, 2021 at 3:23 pm #81473
“We’re all the same again.”
Not true, some people have something never before used on humans floating in their bloodstream. Whatever that secret sauce isJuly 30, 2021 at 3:30 pm #81474
It’s true in the sense Raul obviously meant it.July 30, 2021 at 3:34 pm #81475
“We’re all the same again.”
Let me count the ways,
Socially, no change
Economically, same pattern
Power, no change for me
Natural herd immunity, same but highlighted
Critical thinkers, same but highlightedJuly 30, 2021 at 3:52 pm #81476expatkiwiParticipant
The False Pandemic and the Great Reset: Day 1 of an Online Interdisciplinary Symposium https://zeroanthropology.net/2021/07/30/the-false-pandemic-and-the-great-reset-day-1-of-an-online-interdisciplinary-symposium/July 30, 2021 at 3:57 pm #81477NoiretteParticipant
The TAE summary Two Narratives is being discussed / expanded, allright.
One line from the orig. post ticked me.
The people who push the mainstream narrative are evil and anti-science; The people who believe this narrative are naive, dogmatic and anti-science.
I doubt that TAE participants, or some large sub-set of them, believe this. Or I hope so.
The mainstream narrative may have been created, set up, promulgated and enforced by evil plotters and planners but by no means those in the lower ranks pushing the narrative are evil or anti-science.
They are for large part regular folks, lacking a better term, who have been propagandised and quasi- ‘brain-washed’ to adhere to some group-beliefs that are common in their environment, easily spread, and/or/simultaneously forcibly hammered in by the powerful (Boss imposes on employees; yes they agree.. Corp requires vax, no way out, etc.) and so they follow along.
Those who believe the MSM narrative certainly aren’t dogmatic, as they can change their minds easily, like we all can; naive, as compared to whom?July 30, 2021 at 4:06 pm #81478Polder DwellerParticipant
Victory: Court cancels dismissal of woman (25) who refused corona vaccine
On July 16, a court in Curaçao ruled for the first time in the Dutch kingdom about a dismissal in connection with the refusal of the corona vaccination. The judge ruled in a case brought by a 25-year-old woman who refused to be vaccinated against corona and was subsequently fired by her employer. She has worked as an administrative assistant at Century Trust legal consultancy since 2016.
On April 7, the woman was fired on the spot, after which she went to court. He has now proved her right. There is no general vaccination obligation and without a vaccination obligation, refusing a vaccination cannot lead to immediate dismissal, according to the judge.
Infringement of fundamental rights
Vaccination affects the fundamental right of citizens to inviolability of the human body and the right to respect for privacy. Employers must respect these fundamental rights.
By dismissing the employee, there was an indirect obligation to vaccinate (vaccination pressure). This resulted in a violation of women’s fundamental rights. Such an infringement was not justified in this case. The judge’s ruling confirms the line that an employer cannot directly or indirectly oblige its employees to be vaccinated.
Also relevant for the Netherlands
A comparable legal system exists in Curaçao and for that reason the judgment is also relevant for Dutch case law.July 30, 2021 at 4:09 pm #81479Maxwell QuestParticipant
The official covid narrative has already been mortally wounded and is now spasming on deck like a hooked shark.
Couldn’t agree more. The WSJ stuck their finger in the air and decided to get on the right side of this issue before the backlash begins. Not sure if there will be any accountability, as that is so yesterday. Most likely promotions, bonuses, and medals.July 30, 2021 at 4:23 pm #81480NoiretteParticipant
Report of the Meeting of the WHO Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS),
8–9 June 2021.
This internal Bulletin treats two topics. The first is ‘social listening’ and COV19.
However, various challenges persist, such as delayed reporting of adverse events following immunization (AEFI) or no reporting at all from some parts of the world and lack of capacity to identify, in real time, the spreading of rumours and misinformation. The EWS for vaccine-related events could complement functional vaccine safety surveillance systems by identifying vaccine safety issues (real or perceived) through social media listening.
As the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines started, WHO’s PVG team began setting up and hosting a real-time online listening function that can facilitate early detection and analysis of, and response to, COVID-19 vaccine-related events and concerns.
The need to specifically address “conversational signals” on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, as found in existing social listening projects, prompted the need to invest in a platform that can leverage machine learning and artificial intelligence to enable wide-scale tracking and analysis of online public content on COVID-19 vaccine-related events. Currently, the platform is retrieving an average of 33000 items of data on COVID-19 vaccine-related events every day. The platform’s classification algorithms are trained to detect news, official announcements and signs of unusual activities/information/conversation (in relation to COVID-19 vaccine-related events); to extract statistical evidence to reduce bias and noise, categorizing sources of information in order to eliminate noise and to gain time for response when, for example, misinformation or harmful information is being shared; and to filter the popularity of interactions on social media.
The second is: Safety profile of nOPV2 vaccine. (polio.)July 30, 2021 at 4:34 pm #81481
wow. went shopping. not to megaworld, just the local place (i’d rather pay a 17% premium and help my neighbours).
many more people are today wearing masks while driving, walking, breathing.
the customers in the store seemed more hesitant to be near; the clerks were now wearing gloves again. (i live in lockdowntown, stage 3.7, colour maroon)
i’m gonna build myself a cave. [insert mr. honey, “build myself a cave”, you tube]July 30, 2021 at 4:52 pm #81482my parents said knowParticipant
Mr House- I think you mean Madeleine Albright. Janet Reno’s triumph was murdering 76 Branch Davidians at Waco with hellfire and brimstone.July 30, 2021 at 4:54 pm #81483Dr. DParticipant
Yes but Janet was helping those kids, so….
Christians: They were asking for it.July 30, 2021 at 4:58 pm #81484DarkMatterParticipant
Remember how Janet Reno thought killing 500,000 Iraqis was worth it,
Point well taken but it was Madeleine Albright. Janet Reno only consented to the death of 76 Branch Davidians.July 30, 2021 at 5:02 pm #81485
Yinz guys are correct, and thank you for the correction. Also a special place in hell exists for any women who doesn’t vote for hillary clintonJuly 30, 2021 at 5:16 pm #81486
Breaking news: MSM, CDC, WHO
NEW DATA, NEW INTERPRETATION,
Delta more contagious than Ebola
Fully vaccinated can transmit covid variant just as well as the non-vaccinated.
Full vaccinated people can still get and transmit the infections as fast as the unvaccinated
New science changes the need for mask and the need to add more layers of protectionsJuly 30, 2021 at 5:25 pm #81487
“Couldn’t agree more.”
Try harder. 😉 (mc runs and hides)July 30, 2021 at 5:29 pm #81488July 30, 2021 at 5:32 pm #81489RototillermanParticipant
@Mr. House: that was Madeline Albright who said “I think it was worth it.” May she rot in hell.July 30, 2021 at 5:41 pm #81490OroborosParticipantJuly 30, 2021 at 5:42 pm #81491OroborosParticipant
That’s the full article as far as I can tellJuly 30, 2021 at 5:46 pm #81492
It’s not political! Build Back Better Bro! Don’t jab me Bro!July 30, 2021 at 5:48 pm #81493
I made a very complicated pun yeserday off the word ‘asymmetry’. The word was ‘mimetric’. Asked what that means, I had to deliver: A mimetric is, among other things, someone who mimes understanding the math i.e. the science. More roughly, it means someone who goes along to get along as their prime directive. Most people are more mimetric than not.July 30, 2021 at 5:50 pm #81494
Also, since uh we’re still kinda in the trail phase of all this, does that mean that not everyone is getting the real thing? Isn’t that kinda dishonest?July 30, 2021 at 5:57 pm #81497
Is that something we could FOIA, is everyone who gets jabbed getting the real thing?July 30, 2021 at 6:05 pm #81498Doc RobinsonParticipant
From the CDC’s report showing how the vaccines are failing against the Delta variant.
74% of cases occurred in fully vaccinated persons
vaccination coverage among eligible Massachusetts residents was 69%.
79% [of] vaccinated patients with breakthrough infection were symptomatic.
Among five COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated; no deaths were reported.
Cycle threshold values were similar among specimens from patients who were fully vaccinated and those who were not.
Outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 Infections, Including COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infections, Associated with Large Public Gatherings — Barnstable County, Massachusetts, July 2021
Early Release / July 30, 2021
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_wJuly 30, 2021 at 6:08 pm #81501absolute galoreParticipant
Raul: “We’re all the same again.”
Mr. House: Not true, some people have something never before used on humans floating in their bloodstream. Whatever that secret sauce is
Cafone: It’s true in the sense Raul obviously meant it.
Yes, and I suspect Mr. House obviously knows that. His point was to point out an interesting and potentially relevant point, both for right now and in the future. A three-point shot.July 30, 2021 at 6:11 pm #81503
[i’ve tried the same post many times – dumped cookies, log out, refresh, brush teeth…]July 30, 2021 at 6:14 pm #81507
operation wimpspeed!July 30, 2021 at 6:17 pm #81510D Benton SmithParticipant
Fauci better avoid crossing the street. His former pals have plans involving buses. I wonder how long they’ll bad mouth him before the coups de grace. Everything is so accelerated these days ! His downfall might look more like being sucked into space from a ruptured escape pod. Here one minute and nothing but a gaping hole into nowhere just a single news-cycle later.July 30, 2021 at 6:17 pm #81511D Benton SmithParticipant
Fauci better avoid crossing the street. His former pals have plans involving buses. I wonder how long they’ll bad mouth him before the coups de grace. Everything is so accelerated these days ! His downfall might look more like being sucked into space from a ruptured escape pod. Here one minute and nothing but a gaping hole into nowhere just a single news-cycle later.July 30, 2021 at 6:18 pm #81512
that was part of a longer post. i’ve tried 17,353,498 different ways to squeak ‘er through, but nope.
sorry for the clutter.July 30, 2021 at 6:26 pm #81513
“The unvaccinated will be the new Jews.” ~chooch
woohoo, world domination here i come*!!!
plus, i already keep kosher anyway.
*dear nsa, it’s a joke.July 30, 2021 at 7:03 pm #81514Polder DwellerParticipant
There’s something shifting, isn’t there? First the WSJ, then CNN (!) saying “Vaccination alone won’t stop the rise of variants and in fact could push the evolution of strains that evade their protection…”
Is that the sound of people covering their donkeys as they get wind of Nuremberg 2.0?July 30, 2021 at 7:09 pm #81515
When covid first manifested, I concluded it would cost Trump his reelection, which was otherwise already in the bag. Trump would flounder badly on a topic — covid — people would take very seriously. My logic? viruses are real, very difficult to contain/control, and not political.
All 3 things are anathema to politicians in general and folks like Trump/Biden, etc. in particular.
Most responses to covid have been political because we let politicians rule the show. Funny thing we do. The above-posted article with this headline, People jabbed with PLACEBOS during vaccine trials will have same privileges as those who are ‘fully’ vaxxed, UK minister says, is a perfect and hilarious example of this.
It’s funny even though it gets me moanin’.July 30, 2021 at 7:17 pm #81516
“*dear nsa, it’s a joke.”
Ahem. The dry cough of the impending tax audit sounded in the hall. TDkids flinched, braced for the worst. No one paid taxes anymore; this was more likely the Secret Spooks. She’d been laughing indoors without a mask again.
The door opened:July 30, 2021 at 7:18 pm #81517
I recommend that if a link won’t post, just share the raw link. We can cut’n’paste. UNless that triggers WP bots’ allergies or something.
Nonetheless, I’m glad to hear that tdkids’ teeth received dental hygiene today. 😉 (runs, watches over shoulder for pea-shooter snipers, hollers, “Hey, I brushed mine too!”)July 30, 2021 at 7:19 pm #81518
MSM, CDC, WHO are still not recommending Vd, zinc, and
Ivermectin that works better than the vaccines.
American Journal of Therapeutics: May/June 2021 – Volume 28 – Issue 3 – p e299-e318
Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified. The same study found that ivermectin has been used safely in pregnant women, children and infants.July 30, 2021 at 7:20 pm #81519ctbarnumParticipantJuly 30, 2021 at 7:49 pm #81520
One wonders what drugs Saint Fauci is on, and how long he has been addicted to them. cuz that kind of presentational, superficially emoptionally stable delivery before a camera, live or not, in the face of the jaws of defeat in direct snapping range, needs some GOOD drugs to pull off.
The lack of congruence between his various facial aspects is subtle, smooth, but oh so telling.
Wonder when Biden gets impeached by a GOP that realizes it’s time to flee a sinking ship, the S.S. Duopoly.
Here is a major morphne addict orchestrating his New World Order:
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