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  • #190653
    D Benton Smith
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    Iran did not originate the fear-porn propaganda that it was building an A-Bomb to annihilate Israel and America. Israel and America invented it. They needed to scare people into paying them trillions of dollars to prevent it from happening. And it worked like gangbusters for a long time.

    Well, the “works like a charm” financial success story has come to an end.

    Israel and America just spent somewhere in the neighborhood of a trillion dollars on one attack that not only didn’t work very well but only attacked Iran’s nuclear capability which it doesn’t seriously even have or want. What do they need an A-bomb for anyway? They just reaped the benefit of such a bomb (that “benefit” being the causing of a trillion dollars worth of damage to the enemy) and it basically didn’t cost them practically anything. Why build an expensive A-Bomb to cause a trillion dollars worth of damage to your enemy when you can just have that enemy make a daily practice of doing that kind of damage to itself and without costing you a penny?

    So Iran didn’t have to invent the atomic boogeyman lie to get Israel and America to destroy themselves. America and Israel invented it themselves in order to get rich in the business of destroying Iran. Talk about an economically frugal and effective method of waging war! All you have to do is stay home and take care of the business of surviving bater and better and better while your enemies leave home and kill themselves.

    How clever can you get !? Survive by being virtuous. What a concept. Really difficult to grasp. Maybe that’s why the elites have such a hard time wrapping their wits around and understanding the core concept.

    #190654
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Best, most concise summary of Iran situation in my best-guess summary:

    The massive, obliterating strike appears to be a repeat of the ol “obliterating” Syria strike, remember that one? May have been mostly ineffectual. Maybe that was the intention.

    New launches with relatively heavy missiles at Israel – Iran says they destroyed Israel’s main biological warfare facility — no ceasefire between Israel-Iran has been achieved with the bombing.

    Iranian parliment has okayed blocking Hormuz. Now up to the security council and supreme leader.

    no time to go more in depth, errands to run

    #190655
    tboc
    Participant

    All we are saying is give hate a chance.
    All we are saying is give hate a chance. – not john lennon

    Harry Krusher, Harry, Harry Krusher

    #190656
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I wonder if it has occurred to any of the geniuses in the Pentagon that they are being played like a fiddle by their adversaries?

    Every single stroke by the “NOT THE WEST” forces (basically every meaningfully powerful nation that is NOT suckled up to the Great Western Empire) is calculated to elicit the EXACT stupidly expensive self-destructive response. It’s like watching a maestro animal trainer working his dog & pony show.

    Incidentally, the war of attrition has been going on since the mid 1970’s, as evidenced by the Empire starting to have serious trouble keeping a lid on things at home and abroad. It’s been downhill from that pinnacle of power ever since, for the West in general and for the USA in particular. We all know that’s true because we have all lived through it. At least have so far!

    Stay chill, it’s almost over, but there definitely still are some more thrilling adventures ahead before this whole mess is put to rest in a reasonably realistic fashion.

    #190657
    zerosum
    Participant

    IRGC announces targets of the 20th wave of missile strikes

    The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) stated:

    The 20th wave of Operation True Promise 3 was carried out using a combination of various long-range liquid and solid-fueled missiles, equipped with devastating warheads, and employing new tactics to penetrate the enemy’s defense shield. The strikes targeted:

    1. Ben Gurion Airports
    2. The Zionist regime’s biological research center
    3. The regime’s logistical bases and various layers of command and control centers

    Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 22 2025 6:27 utc | 971

    #190658
    zerosum
    Participant

    Update: Fotros reports “The Institute for Biological Research, south of Rishon LeZion was completely destroyed. This is one of the most sensitive facilities of the Israeli Ministry of Defense.”
    @Slavyangrad

    #190659
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    To everyone who has had the misfortune of working (in any capacity) for the Military Industrial Complex I have only this to say to you. You have been lied to. The fundamentally dependable purpose of virtually all normal human beings is NOT to take up arms, go to a foreign land and kill people. The vast vast vast majority simply want to be left unmolested in their pursuit of living a decent life, raising a family and eventually dying at old age, surrounded by loved one’s.

    You have been frightened into believing otherwise and for a variety of not very good reasons decided to take the fight to the other guy before he brought the fight to you. Just stop doing that. There are some people who want bad things to happen to people so that they can profit personally, but they are very few, and they are rather easy to spot once you see what they’re doing.

    Suicide is not the solution to attempted suicide. Normal living is the solution. That and a decent amount of love and respect to the Divine Creator who does a lot for you to make life possible.

    #190665
    Topcat
    Participant

    @D Benton Smith

    “Israel and America just spent somewhere in the neighborhood of a trillion dollars on one attack that not only didn’t work very well but only attacked Iran’s nuclear capability which it doesn’t seriously even have or want.”

    Every 8 attempts at intercepting an Iranian missile with the Israeli THAAD array cost a Billion dollars.

    So every set of a thousand Iranian missiles would cost $125 BILLION

    War of attrition.

    Another math problem for Trumptard

    So all the “savings” Elon found with DOGE are all ready Gone with the Wind

    “frankly my dear i don’t give a damn…”

    #190666
    kultsommer
    Participant

    @DBS

    I just write stuff down.

    Fine.
    And I make a comment on some of it where I think you are off the rail, like yesterday, and that makes you so offended? Right?

    #190667
    Topcat
    Participant

    He Walks

    He Talks

    He crawls on his belly like a reptile….

    #190668
    Topcat
    Participant

    The neocons have successfully destroyed Trump’s most important trait.

    Trump is no longer the anti-war president.

    Trump is now the president who bombed a country without declaring war.

    #190669
    zerosum
    Participant

    Let’s wait for the answers
    https://nitter.poast.org/GlobeWarReport/status/1936681908412493869#m

    Iran submitted an urgent letter to the United Nations Security Council condemning the US attack on its facilities.

    #190670
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Here’s a good objective initial assessment of the US bombing of Iran.

    #190671
    zerosum
    Participant

    Everyone is trying to find the right answer.
    https://nitter.net/ArmchairW/status/1936629818914755029

    My theory for the evening?

    I think this was a low-risk, low-impact attack entirely conducted using submarine-launched cruise missiles, and the DoD is simply lying about heavy bomber involvement for propaganda purposes.

    Read explanations.

    #190672
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://nitter.poast.org/IranObserver0/status/1936628153621029041#m

    BREAKING

    Representative of Qom Province:

    ‘The underground facilities of Fordow nuclear site has not been damaged, the damage is above ground’

    #190673
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    When “peace” is sued from the end of a bayonet, the result will not truly be peace.

    #190674
    zerosum
    Participant

    US Struck Fordow, Isfahan & Natanz Russians Broke Through the Defense Near Pokrovsk MS 2025.06.22

    #190675
    zerosum
    Participant

    Waiting for the insurance declaration that will close the straits of Hormuz to vessels using Western insurance. Iran is probably now on the phone with Lloyds of London. Lloyds is now responsible for pulling the insurance. Or, it’s liable for the damage. It’s played out like this several times but I wonder who notices.

    #190676
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Reported body count so far:

    The aggressors killed “more than 400” in Iran.
    The retaliations killed “24” in Israel.

    Israel’s emergency medical service, Magen David Adom, says 24 people have been killed in the country since Israel began its war with Iran 10 days ago…

    Israeli attacks on Iran have killed more than 400 people.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/22/live-us-joins-israels-attacks-on-iran-bombs-three-nuclear-sites

    #190684
    those darned kids
    Participant

    personally,

    i am quite optimistic about the possibilities awaiting the new trump administration.

    doge is going to save a lot.
    the wars are going to end.
    the foreigners are going home.
    america will soon be great again.

    after all,

    DONALD TRUMP IS THE GREATEST PRESIDENT SINCE JOE BIDEN.

    #190685
    zerosum
    Participant

    Ignorance: Believe what you are told, without proof.
    We are all in the same boat.
    If Trump was told B2 bombers flew in Iranian airspace.
    Lol, they could have told him that Black Panther and Iron Man totally destroyed Fordow and made it safely back to Wakanda and he’d have rushed to post it on Truth Social.

    #190686
    citizenx
    Participant

    Trump is no longer the anti-war president.

    …if trump played chess, a board game known in Sanskrit as catur-aṅga– (“having four members,” a common designation for an army of four divisions -in the 6th century); he would be but a pawn for zionist trash…

    trump just established himself as thezionist President of the USA, a status far below earth worms and maggots… MIGA maggot trump.

    #190687
    citizenx
    Participant

    He Walks, He Talks
    He crawls on his belly like a reptile….

    Hahaha, yes, fond memories of long gone better times…

    Sharon by David Bromberg-
    I was at this carnival, just a few years ago
    No big deal, ferris wheel, the same ol’ stuff you know
    And I wandered around the grounds until I found this little tent
    Man outside made a speech, and this is how it went
    She walks, she talks, she crawls on her belly like a reptile”
    It was the same ol’ line, except for one part
    He said “It don’t cost no money, you gotta pay with your heart.”
    ‍‍
    Oh, Sharon, what do you do to these men?
    You know the same rowdy crowd that was here last night is back again…

    Then out come this dude with curly, red hair
    He had a big bushy beard and he was built like a bear
    He said, “You stop yer shoutin,’ there’s no more to the show
    If you wanna breathe right, y’all better go.”
    Well I didn’t hang around, I headed straight for the door
    But on my way out, I heard that big bear roar
    Oh, Sharon, what do you do to these men?

    Every time that that show played, I was right there
    I stayed out off reach of that mean, red bear
    And it was just like the man said in his speech at the start
    When that carnie left town it took a piece of my heart
    And I still get a funny feeling deep down in my bone
    Every time I hear a band play that “Main Street Moan”

    trump sold his soul, betrayed America and his “America first” promise…no soft back peddling this one- he’s a slimy, sleazy pedophile casino owning con man…

    Jim Kuntslur wrote-

    I will make a bold prediction: Iran will be successfully de-nuked. The world will be better for it. Eventually, world opinion about Israel will shift. The world will be grateful that Israel dared to take on this problem.

    No jew Jimmy boi- the world will never be grateful for mass murdering zionist genocidal pathological filth like you, or your pedophile tribe crying victim while whining about anti-semitism… the world will be grateful when Israel is neutered and bibi is fed alive to be devoured by hogs. Zionist are less than pig shit. Spineless zionist trash.

    Bromberg would be proud, enjoy the bass line-

    Well I went inside, I looked around for a seat
    The the lights went low, and the drums played a beat
    Then this girl came out dressed in a scarf and a sneeze
    She did a little dance that made me weak in the knees
    She danced just like her back had no bone
    While the band played a tune they called the “Main Street Moan”
    She smiled a smile the whole world could see
    And then She turned around, and looked staraight at me
    I must’ve jumped at least six feet in the air
    And when I come down, that girl wasn’t there
    ‍ Oh, Sharon, what do you do to these men?

    #190688
    zerosum
    Participant

    TRUMP FAKE ATTACK ON IRAN – ISRAEL DEFEATED – POLITICAL FALLOUT IMMENSE

    Garland Nixon
    85.4K subscribers
    https://www.youtube.com/

    #190689
    zerosum
    Participant

    Be proud of what the U.S. Military has accomplished – distraction

    #190690
    Topcat
    Participant

    It’s being predicted that the resolution and other metrics of optical perception will be so good in a couple of years that no human eye will be able to tell the difference between fact and generated fiction.

    When that AI ‘invention’ or sleight of hand descends on the human race, a Matrix like corruption of perception will envelope and tyrannize the globe in mutually reinforcing hallucination to which there will be no escape.

    I’ve already met people saying the videos of Iranian missiles hitting Tel Aviv are fake AI because Israel’s Iron Dome would never allow it.

    Conformation Bias amplified by AI to many magnitudes beyond imagination will be infinitely worse than the present Fake News paradigm.

    #190691
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Futures haven’t budged.
    A position IS it’s all fakery.
    Okay, then what follows from is more fakery too.

    They faked me those fakers.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/hegseth-says-us-bold-brilliant-operation-did-not-target-iranian-troops-or-civilians

    Title:

      Vance, Rubio Call For Peace With Iran, Say Regime Change Is Not The Goal
      When asked if the US would support an Israeli assassination of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Vance said that it would be “up to the Israelis,” and that the US position is “we don’t want a regime change.

      “They can go down the path of peace, or they can go down the path of this ridiculous brinksmanship of funding terrorism, of trying to build a nuclear weapon – and that’s just not something the United States can accept.” 

    Don said he did it to protect Israel and that was a deep fake, right?

    Also weird offering an ExCon, Pedophile’s assessment as “good objective”.

    Either no thanks or leave Ritter to that stupidshit miker.
    Choose

    #190692
    zerosum
    Participant

    What is real.?
    What is an illusion?
    Have we entered, “The battle of the AI.”

    “I’ve already met people saying the videos of Iranian missiles hitting Tel Aviv, are fake AI because Israel’s Iron Dome AI would never allow it.”

    #190693
    those darned kids
    Participant

    schrödinger’s war.. great

    i never thought i’d be living in “being there”, but here we are.

    the only difference is that chauncey gardner was humble,

    while

    chrumpcy gardner thinks he’s an actual jenius.

    #190694
    tboc
    Participant

    What has changed in the world since June 13, 2025?

    Not One Damned Thing

    Mommy why do we murder children?
    For Money honey.
    Mommy why do you go to work?
    For Money honey?
    Mommy do you murder children?
    No honey the Money does that.

    you know a population has a problem when you can measure the distance between their synapses with a tape measure

    #190695
    those darned kids
    Participant

    who needs “tariff inflation” when you’ve got “oil price” inflation?

    #190696
    those darned kids
    Participant

    because of the brave actions of america’s warriors,

    the flint water system is now safe for democracy.

    #190697
    zerosum
    Participant

    WATCH LIVE: UN Security Council holds emergency meeting after U.S. airstrikes on Iran

    #190702
    tboc
    Participant

    in what way are nuclear weapons and health insurance identical?
    Good for me not for thee

    what is the baseline or benchmark for measuring hypocrisy?
    does human life have an intricsic value?
    Only Mine, why do you ask?

    humans who believe in money ridicule humans who believe in god

    speaking of inflation – isn’t that one of the patches on the big bang theory?

    The Theory of Geometric Unity is an attempt by Eric Weinstein to produce a unified field theory by recovering the different, seemingly incompatible geometries of fundamental physics from a general structure with minimal assumptions.
    this old cracker leans more in the direction of “the irreducibility of computation”, there’s always that

    write one sentence containing the name Heschel
    One sentence containing the name Heschel.

    #190703

    From a zh comment:
    The Blaze” * tracking Boelter’s phone.
    Flags are half-mast here in Minnesota, but the news doesn’t say much.
    *new to me.

    #190704

    Let me think like the optimists for a sec.
    Trump makes a deal with Iran- I’m going to blow up your [abandoned] nuclear facilities and claim I destroyed your nuclear capabilities. Then you get to say you were knee-capped, nuke-wise (uncle!), and promise [again] that you don’t want nukes- and Israel has to shut up and stop bombing you. I’ll take a big hit politically, but hey, I’ve been impeached before, and I could retire. Vance can handle things.
    Bonus: impeachment hearings would get eyeballs, and just in time for the next midterm election season, people could become actually acquainted with their “representatives”.

    #190705

    A poster of that owl picture has to be available….wow.
    That was a great horned owl call in the voiceover.

    #190706
    aspnaz
    Participant

    kultsommer said

    Enjoy your reading of candy-like dispensed wisdom.

    Dr D’s daily gibberish.

    #190707
    tboc
    Participant

    Topcat @ 190652 – it does if you are a male. It’s not called a tallywhacker fer nothin

    #190708
    aspnaz
    Participant

    D Benton Smith said

    I don’t dispense wisdom.

    The Jew loving habitual liar is telling the truth, broken clocks twice a day.

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