Debt Rattle June 4 2016
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[See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 4 2016]A Russian Warning article is not a letter from Russian – Americans, it is a total propaganda article, most likely approved by Putin. They talk about their fight in WWII which was heroic but with no choice (Stalin order anyone not fighting to be shot) they had to fight and die. Russia would have lost if the United States had not supplied them with weapons and ammunition and also entered the war. Russia would have been destroyed if the US had chosen to be its enemy and nuked it too. Russia chooses to be an enemy to the west because it is the only way the corrupt and criminal government can hold together the country.
Quoting the article:”Thus, if tomorrow a war were to break out between the US and Russia, it is guaranteed that the US would be obliterated. At a minimum, there would no longer be an electric grid, no internet, no oil and gas pipelines, no interstate highway system, no air transportation or GPS-based navigation. Financial centers would lie in ruins. Government at every level would cease to function. US armed forces, stationed all around the globe, would no longer be resupplied. At a maximum, the entire landmass of the US would be covered by a layer of radioactive ash. We tell you this not to be alarmist, but because, based on everything we know, we are ourselves alarmed. If attacked, Russia will not back down; she will retaliate, and she will utterly annihilate the United States.”
Do you really think that Russia could destroy the most powerful country on earth and suffer only minor damage? There would be nothing left, not even an ice cube in Siberia. NATO expanded because of the belligerence of Russia and Putin’s decision to once again play the part of an enemy to the west to protect his own power and corruption. The Russian people are smart but fools since they only get their information from a government controlled press and media. It is the same lying propaganda that the Soviet Union used and the people have never recovered from that brainwashing. Look at all the countries that ran from that awful dictatorship when they got the chance. These countries wanted to join NATO for protection. Russia is an becoming equal to Hitler’s Germany except with more powerful weapons. The US and NATO will not cower in from of them. They are evil.
Here’s what happened in Afghanistan before the Russians went in:
“Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?
Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.
Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?
Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?”
That’s how the U.S. works, poking at countries until they react, and then they have the audacity to say: “Oh, look, they’re getting all aggressive!” As one journalist said, “NATO moves closer to Russia then blames Russia for being closer to NATO.”
Babble, you’re not Brzezinski, are you?
Babble,
It is hard to answer all the misleading points that you bring up. Hollywood and the US educational system did a good job.
This letter by Orlov et al. is about the present situation. I know it must be frustrating for an American to be told that their country will turn to radioactive ash should they dare attack Russia with nuclear weapons – but that is an incontrovertible fact that the MSM is hiding from you. Orlov is trying to open your eyes so do not take it out on him.
90% of the wealth and power in the USA resides along the coasts. Russian unmanned long-range torpedoes can create 1000 foot tsunamis that would destroy all of that – without resorting to ICBM’s. You can call it unfair if you wish, but that is the way things stand today.
As regards your historical narrative be advised that total war and foreign invasion is something that the USA has never had to contend with. The Russians know all about it. Here are some points:
1- Even in WW1, the British and French executed thousands of young men who could not or would not fight. In WW2, the Germans preferred to guillotine them. The British and French had very few military casualties in WW2 – when compared to WW1.
2- The Americans invaded Normandy in June 1944 – a full three years after the Germans had invaded the Soviet Union (June 1941). During those 3 years, the Russians had destroyed a huge part of the Germans army – and had millions of German, Italian, Hungarian, Austrian, Romanian and Bulgarian prisoners. The German soldiers in Normandy were not comparable in quantity or quality to the German army that had invaded Russia. Their best units had been wiped out. Their officer corps had been decimated. Germany was conscripting teenagers and middle-aged men into their army by then.
3- After the fall of Berlin (to the Soviets), the USSR sent armies east to attack invade Japan – something they never tell you at school in the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_War_%281945%29
In no time at all, these armies destroyed Japan’s formidable Kwantung army in China and Korea and proceeded to occupy northern Japanese Islands – they are now a part of Russia.
4- The USA dropped atomic bombs on Japan largely as a warning to the Soviet Union. The ruling class of Japan – which is still in power today – rapidly made peace with the Americans and let them occupy Japan.
5- The Americans and British planned to drop 300 nuclear weapons on Soviet cities – but luckily desisted.
https://sputniknews.com/politics/20150815/1025789574/us-planned-to-wipe-out-ussr.html
Today, both Japan and Germany are largely controlled by the USA – soft power. You only have to look at how German newspapers are describing what is happening in Ukraine to understand that. Much of the German public is disgusted with their media’s pro-American slant.
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This sort of nonsense does not really threaten Russia – merely annoy them. Putin said that Poland and Romania have merely put themselves in the crosshairs – for no gain.
After the simultaneous destruction of both Russia AND the United States via nuclear weapons, some would be happy to mutter with their last breath: “But WE won!” They actually believe there will be a winner here. The whole world will be destroyed. Seems like some are bent on pushing and pushing, and then just like the bullies they are, daring the other side to act. Insanity. Or they say that they’ll just use conventional weapons. Yeah, right, until somebody doesn’t.
Under the NATO-Russia Founding Act of 1997 (which Russia was foolish enough to trust and sign):
“NATO’s pledge to Russia was conditional, not unconditional. It was that, as long as there was no security threat to Eastern Europe, there would be no permanent NATO troops stationed there. On these terms, the NATO-Russia Founding Act was agreed to, signed, and ratified:
‘NATO reiterates that in the current and foreseeable security environment, the Alliance will carry out its collective defence and other missions by ensuring the necessary interoperability, integration, and capability for reinforcement rather than by additional permanent stationing of substantial combat forces.'”
Now I understand why somebody mentioned that NATO just keeps moving their troops around in order to get around the “permanent stationing” clause in the above quote.
Russia should have learned by now that the U.S. will just manufacture or engineer a humanitarian problem (using their NGO’s), create chaos and havoc through proxies, and then say, “Look, there’s a big security threat; we’ll have to go in.” Whatever fits, they’ll do it. They are great at dismantling countries. That is what they’re “exceptional” at.
“…but it was the Clinton administration’s Doctrine of Humanitarian Warfare before 9/11, that shut the door on the prohibition of aggressive wars by the UN Charter, remaking the map of the world into a borderless American hunting reserve by removing the principle of sovereignty and replacing it with “right to protect” (R2P)—or humanitarian pretext for use of force.
Clinton’s doctrine was an act of supreme, even witty, exploitation of liberal principles and commitment to policies of human rights. It was how the liberal left was induced to embrace war and imperialism as the means of defending human rights. The Carnegie Endowment cooked up the doctrine in 1992. Its report, “Changing Our Ways: America’s Role in the New World,” urged “a new principle of international relations: the destruction or displacement of groups of people within states can justify international intervention.” The report recommended that the US use NATO as the enforcer. It must be noted, too, that the principle of “humanitarian war” has no authority in international law. The Charter of the United Nations sought to outlaw war by making it impossible for unilateral interventions in the business of sovereign states by self-appointed guardians of human rights. The reason behind the proscription was not heartlessness but the consciousness that WW II had been the result of serial violations of sovereignty by Germany, Italy, and Japan—by militarist imperialism, in other words.”
The Great Leap Backward: America’s Illegal Wars on the World
Clinton came up with the Doctrine of Humanitarian Warfare: “The destruction or displacement of groups of people within states can justify international intervention”. As I said in my above post, that is what the U.S. is so exceptional at, displacing people. Syria, anyone?
So you just go around creating humanitarian problems and, voila, you and your NATO bully friends can pound whatever country isn’t doing your bidding into the ground.
Raleigh,
I think that the best way of avoiding Armageddon is for Putin to tell Netanyahu that Israel will go first. The Zionists and their media are behind it all and he alone can call off these hyenas.
@ Nassim
Babble,It is hard to answer all the misleading points that you bring up. Hollywood and the US educational system did a good job.
Indeed, Babble is aptly self identified. No further response needed…
bluebird
Russia? Why so much discussion about Russia?
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It’s really quite simple; The U.S. is aggressing on Russia’s borders with artillery within range of St. Petersburg and an anti-missile shield across the whole of Europe.
Your question rings of a lack of being currently informed.
Or, you’re another victim of Hollywood and the U.S. educational system as Nassim puts it…
China is also in the U.S. hegemon’s sights for challenging the U.S.’s control of the world’s oceans.
Jeez, maybe we’ll be fighting China and Russia at the same time? Won’t that be exciting…not!
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