Debt Rattle June 4 2020
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June 4, 2020 at 11:07 am #59531Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
G. G. Bain On beach near Casino, Asbury Park 1911 • Malaria Drug Touted By Trump Fails To Prevent COVID19 In High Profile Study (R.) • Big HCQ
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 4 2020]June 4, 2020 at 12:12 pm #59534V. ArnoldParticipantG. G. Bain On beach near Casino, Asbury Park 1911
It’s interesting to see how people dressed, when going to the beach; way back when…
June 4, 2020 at 12:13 pm #59535John DayParticipant“I can’t breathe.” George Floyd
Reasons discovered to date:
Knee on neck.
Coronavirus infection. https://www.npr.org/2020/06/04/869278494/medical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus
Methamphetamine and Fentanyl in his body.
(“Coronary artery disease”? Where is the evidence, please.)June 4, 2020 at 1:55 pm #59536zerosumParticipantWAR: Covid19 vs human civilization
Declared Casualties – 04 June 2020 Deaths 388,421
Unauthorized defense weapon – HCQ and zinc and Vitamin D, combine to prevent the virus, once you are infected, from doing further and grave damage to your body.
Undeclared weapons: Money, propaganda, fake news, distorted facts, Jubilee for the elites, disinformation, gullibility (a tendency to be easily persuaded that something is real or true; credulity),
Rules of engagement: face masks, distancing of 2 meters, lock down, no crowding/demonstrations
June 4, 2020 at 2:10 pm #59537WESParticipantIn DC, no crimes were committed in creating false crimes to convict innocent people with.
This is just what the DoJ and the FBI do.
June 4, 2020 at 2:14 pm #59538WESParticipantZerosum:
It would seem here in Ontario, there are no longer any rules of engagement!
Almost no one is wearing face masks now that warmer weather has arrived.
June 4, 2020 at 2:25 pm #59539zerosumParticipantG. G. Bain On beach near Casino, Asbury Park 1911
“It’s interesting to see how people dressed, when going to the beach; way back when…”
Details…. Wearing a suit and tie. Definitely the proper beach dress code for the rich and powerful at an exclusive location.
June 4, 2020 at 2:30 pm #59540ByronBishopParticipantHi Illargi
A few days ago you said that you were not sure when you would be able to air travel from Netherlands to Greece. I am a woefully under-travelled old man from Nova Scotia Canada and I wonder: Could you drive a car from Netherlands to Greece? and How far is it, and how long would it take?
Thanks
June 4, 2020 at 2:53 pm #59541Mr. HouseParticipantMan, what to believe anymore? Do you guys remember people rioting in Europe during Fergason and Baltimore during Obama’s term? What are the chances that after 4 years of russia russia russia, this is all being used as one final push to get trump either out of office or not reelected? Funny how people protesting the lockdown were shamed by nurses but people rioting get applause? Strange days have found us
June 4, 2020 at 2:58 pm #59542Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterByron,
It’s possible. Just under 3,000 km and 30 hours of non-stop driving, according to Google Maps. Realistically that would mean 3 days of travel.
June 4, 2020 at 3:42 pm #59543lasttwoParticipantNova Scotia had one new case and several days now of very few cases. But went to Digby yesterday and only about 5% of people wearing masks, much less social distancing than last month. It would be nice if visiting doctors from New Brunswick would were a sign or something. – A cautionary tale it only takes one. New Brunswick had no cases for a long time then a doctor drives to Quebec on personal business comes back and sees 150 patients and tests positive. it only takes one.
June 4, 2020 at 4:02 pm #59544John DayParticipanthttp://www.johndayblog.com/2020/06/subjects-of-empire.html
Agents Provocateurs: Police at Protests All Over the Country Caught Destroying Property
Police all over the world commonly use plants and undercover cops to undermine protests.Agents Provocateurs: Police at Protests All Over the Country Caught Destroying Property
An undercover journalist with Project Veritas successfully infiltrated Portland’s Rose City Antifa cell, capturing footage of a meeting in which members discussed how to “get out there and do dangerous things as safely as possible.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/project-veritas-infiltrates-clandestine-meeting-violent-antifa-cellThe Revolution Won’t Be Televised because this is not a revolution. At least not yet. Pepe Escobar
Burning and/or looting Target or Macy’s is a minor diversion. No one is aiming at the Pentagon (or even the shops at the Pentagon Mall). The FBI. The NY Federal Reserve. The Treasury Department. The CIA in Langley. Wall Street houses.
The real looters – the ruling class – are comfortably surveying the show on their massive 4K Bravias, sipping single malt. This is a class war much more than a race war and should be approached as such. Yet it was hijacked from the start to unfold as a mere color revolution. https://www.globalresearch.ca/why-america-revolution-wont-televised/5714992
This distinguished MI-6 liar makes the standard case that SARS-CoV-2 is a lab virus, with no proof that it escaped from the Wuhan lab, as opposed to the Ft Detrick lab, which got shut down for breach-of-containment last summer.
(Please see my attempted comment below under “Vaccine Sovereignty” article.)
Former MI6 Boss Says COVID-19 Manmade, Escaped From Chinese Lab
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/former-mi6-boss-says-covid-19-escaped-chinese-lab“Vaccine Sovereignty” vs “People’s Vaccine” assumes that vaccination against SARS-CoV-2 will save some lives.
Sovereignty, in its most distilled form, is the power to decide who will live and who must die. Both U.S. and U.K. heads of state have increasingly invoked sovereignty as a dominant discourse in their economic and foreign policies. President Trump used the words “sovereign” or “sovereignty” 21 times in his inaugural address to the United Nations General Assembly in September 2017. More recently, Prime Minister Boris Johnson characterized Britain’s exit from the European Union as “recaptured sovereignty.”
These invocations of sovereign power reflect a form of American and British exceptionalism that are echoed in the University of Oxford’s exclusive deal with AstraZeneca to manufacture a potential Covid-19 vaccine developed by the university. The deal prioritizes British and American access to the vaccine following significant financial investments by both governments...
While vaccine sovereignty is centered on how access to vaccines is shaped through wealth and power, it is also about recognizing those who are the subject of that power — those who must die.
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Yes, this is about the power of life and death over other people, their subjugation. This lab vaccine slipped out, seemingly from Ft Detrick, Maryland in June 2019, and was noticed in a retirement community near there. http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/05/answers.html
http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/05/origins-of-covid.html
It seems to have traveled to Wuhan via soldiers participating in The Wuhan Games in October, the same time Event 201 was being conducted to coordinate global governmental response to this accidentally released weapon. John Day MDJune 4, 2020 at 4:42 pm #59545Mr. HouseParticipant@John Day
I always suspected our own government before anyone else. But if it escaped in June, what does that say about the severness and contagiousness of Covid-19?
June 4, 2020 at 4:44 pm #59546Mr. HouseParticipantJune 4, 2020 at 4:51 pm #59547LilyParticipantYou say no-one ever said hydroxychloroquine would prevent infection, but that’s why Trump said he was taking it.
June 4, 2020 at 6:36 pm #59548Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterYou say no-one ever said hydroxychloroquine would prevent infection, but that’s why Trump said he was taking it.
Not sure this is relevant, but I’ll bite: what exactly did he say?
Note: of course I know there must have been people, and perhaps Trump is among them, who inadvertently declared HCQ a vaccine, because that’s what it would come down to, but nobody relevant to the discussion. Sorry if that wasn’t obvious.
June 4, 2020 at 7:58 pm #59549Doc RobinsonParticipant“Malaria drug touted by Trump fails to prevent COVID-19 in high profile study”
That study looked only at “Postexposure Prophylaxis” where the subjects had already been exposed to someone with a confimed Covid-19 infection. The subjects weren’t necessarily already infected (anyone already symptomatic before the study began was ineligible), and most of them didn’t develop any symptoms during the study. Out of the 821 participants, only 2 hospitalizations were reported (one from the HCQ group, and one from the placebo group).
The author of the study, David Boulware, clarified today on Twitter that…
“This trial did not look at treatment of symptomatic persons with Covid-19 at baseline.”
“This trial did not look at pre-exposure prophylaxis. That is a different trial.”June 4, 2020 at 8:58 pm #59550Doc RobinsonParticipantRetraction from The Lancet:
Statement from The Lancet
Today, three of the authors of the paper, “Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis”, have retracted their study. They were unable to complete an independent audit of the data underpinning their analysis. As a result, they have concluded that they “can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources.”June 4, 2020 at 9:10 pm #59551Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterSaw that Doc. Surgisphere refused full access to their “database”. Of course, when they say they “can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources”, that means they never could, because they never had access to the sources. Vey bloody nose for the Lancet. A reputation is easily lost.
June 4, 2020 at 9:24 pm #59552Doc RobinsonParticipantThe Lancet’s editor Richard Horton told The Guardian, “This is a shocking example of research misconduct in the middle of a global health emergency.” As if The Lancet wasn’t complicit in the promulgation of bad research, which can be especially harmful in the middle of a global health emergency.
June 4, 2020 at 10:55 pm #59554zerosumParticipant04 June 2020 NEW modeling graphs for bc
https://www.citynews1130.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/9/2020/06/04/COVID19-Modelling-Tech-Briefing_June4.pdfJune 4, 2020 at 11:03 pm #59555zerosumParticipantCanada’s latest projections show COVID-19 transmission rate is at encouraging level
04 June 2020 NEW modeling graphs for Canada
https://ipolitics.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/COVID-Epi-and-Modelling-Update-4-JUN-v9h00.pdfJune 4, 2020 at 11:14 pm #59556zerosumParticipantThose 04 June 2020 NEW modeling graphs for Canada and BC are going to be useful for someone to say,“I told you so”,
Vancouver is planning a demonstration for Friday.
A second protest against racism is scheduled to take place in Vancouver this Friday, this time near the Olympic Torch at Canada Place.June 5, 2020 at 1:34 am #59557Doc RobinsonParticipantMortality levels approaching normal in Europe
A follow-up to my comment yesterday…
Today, EUROMOMO updated its excess mortality estimates for the European countries in its network. These latest estimates (for Week 22, presumably May 25-31) show the overall excess mortality (all countries combined) as being below the baseline. This means that the overall estimated deaths for the week are not higher than expected for this time of year.
At the individual country level, Sweden and the UK are still showing “moderate excess,” and Belgium is showing “low excess.” The rest of the countries are showing “no excess.”
Countries included: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany (Berlin), Germany (Hesse), Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK (England), UK (Northern Ireland), UK (Scotland), UK (Wales).
It’s interesting to see the excess deaths approach zero, or go negative, even while countries are in lockdown.
The numbers for the recent weeks include some estimates that try to correct for delays in death registrations, and EuroMOMO gives this caveat: “the mortality estimates for the most recent weeks must be read with caution, despite the applied correction for delay in registration.”
https://www.euromomo.eu/bulletins/2020-22/
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality
Click on “Weekly” instead of “Cumulated”June 5, 2020 at 1:47 am #59558my parents said knowParticipantHCQ: No wonder the little managers are scrambling to distance themselves from liability.
The Minnesota study admits it was not used as a treatment but rather to see if it was useful as a phrophylactic. I don’t know about the zinc. If this isn’t the throbbing red thumb that says it’s time to reconsider the hammering methods, I don’t know what is.
On a note I sing all the time:
There is nothing more important to a culture than to party (gather; hang out; assemble; meet; etc.). Nothing. I repeat: NOTHING.In good spirits we come together and share opinions- faces open. Without this, society falls apart.
If it doesn’t, it should.June 5, 2020 at 2:03 am #59559my parents said knowParticipantOn the Chauvin (as in chauvinist?) thing- why are we concentrating on the victim? The poor guy got dug up before he was buried- and it will all figure in the trial to get the cop- the PERP- off. I don’t understand…this is about a LEO who did a reprehensible thing -on camera with an unmistakable look on his face (bet he wishes he had worn a mask)- and Floyd is in the spotlight.
Wrong!
Every night I go to sleep hoping I will wake up on a different time line- ’cause this one is too snarled to follow.June 5, 2020 at 2:46 am #59560John DayParticipant@Mr. House,
The first case in the retirement home was diagnosed at end of June, if you read the links. That retirement home got ravaged. June, July and August are peak sun and outdoorsy weather, when viruses typically spread less and harm people less. It could pass unseen for the most part, in those who did not get bad enough to hospitalize. Even in Wuhan, in Fall/Winter it looks like the first case (viral mutation regression analysis) was late October to mid November, and it was not detected until mid December, or so. Earlier in hindsight. What this may say about infectivity is that it’s less in summer, and you miss most cases unless you are really looking hard, which we now know to be the case. There were about 10 times as many cases going around as what was apparent, so case fatality rate fell from 3/100 to 3/1000 or so.
I am putting this together the best I can with bad information, which is different from 2-3 months ago, when I had somewhat different bad information.
I’d be brilliant with the truth, but it’s not on offer lately.June 5, 2020 at 4:36 am #59561zerosumParticipantTime travel
There is timeline from when the first virus infects the first person.
The virus must enter the first cell, multiply until it can no longer obtain the material to duplicates itself.
Then there are two virus taking material from the cell to make two more virus.
Then there are four …..
Then the viruses in that cell leave and try to find other cells …. repeat ….
The remaining destroyed cell must be ejected as waste from the body.
The created viruses must also leave the body before it dies to find other victims.There is a limited timeline that the viruses can live outside of a cell.
(New York, Gov. Como says that their virus came from Europe: Italy, Germany)BC has demonstrated that there are 5 virus that entered the population from different regions.
(See link below)1. from China
2. from Europe
3. from Washington state, USA
4. from Iran
5. others
The initial five viruses entered at different timeline with different people.https://www.citynews1130.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/9/2020/06/04/COVID19-Modelling-Tech-Briefing_June4.pdf
p. 11
Genomic Epidemiology: Virus Origin
Chart shows that most of the infection for BC were from
2. from Europe
3. from the Washington state USAp. 3
Epidemic Curve: Confirmed COVID-19 cases in BC by reported date January 1 and May 27, 2020 (N=2553)
(chart shows 26 Jan for the first case
chart shows 14 March for public health measure)Cases reported on the same day as this report are excluded as only a portion are available at the time the data are extracted. The number of cases reported
by day differs from that in Table 1 in previous reports as this figure reflects the date the case was lab-confirmed and reported to the Health Authorityhttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/dix-henry-update-jun-4-1.5585756
Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry revealed the results of genomic tracing of different strains of the virus, showing that of those samples that have been sequenced, early cases linked to travel from China and Iran appear to have been well contained, leading to relatively few other infections.But beginning in March, with an outbreak that began with the Pacific Dental Conference in Vancouver, infections with strains from Eastern Canada and Europe spiked dramatically.
“One of the people that we knew was positive and had attended that conference had previously been in Germany during his incubation period before he became ill,” Henry said.Strains traced to Washington state have also been linked to a large number of cases, particularly in long-term care homes in the Vancouver Coastal Health region.
Henry explained that this kind of tracing is possible because the genome of the virus changes relatively quickly, but not as fast as diseases like influenza.
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