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    Dorothea Lange Plantation overseer and his field hands, Mississippi Delta 1936   • A Third Of COVID19 Hospital Patients Develop Dangerous Blood C
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 17 2020]

    #58882
    John Day
    Participant

    As promised: http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/05/answers.html
    The first signs that something terrible had gone wrong with the security at the Fort Detrick bio-defence facility fifty miles north-west of Washington DC were when cases of a previously unknown and serious respiratory illness appeared at a retirement village on the western outskirts of the capital in July 2019. The first cases were noted on June 30th amongst the 260 residents of the Greenspring Assisted Living unit, with the infectious disease later affecting 19 staff and taking the lives of some older residents…
    ​ ​I propose that the scheme devised in desperation last summer for this “diversionary tactic”, was to send the Fort Detrick Virus with the soldiers set to compete at the Wuhan games in three months’ time, while trying to keep a lid on the domestic epidemic until the new year, and a lock on the inquisitive media. Rehearsing for the subsequent global pandemic called for “Event 201” to prepare participants for what they might have to face, and bring their organizational and media responses into line…
    ​ ​Whether this theory is the correct one may not yet be proven, but it does provide an explanation to the conundrum of the genie that was accidentally released from the bottle but intentionally released from Wuhan. And we must all now suffer the consequences of that US “culpable manslaughter” as we learn to live with their engineered Genie.
    https://ahtribune.com/world/covid-19/4152-american-genie.html

    The juxtaposition of images in the news of farmers destroying crops and dumping milk with empty supermarket shelves or hungry Americans lining up for hours at food banks tells a story of economic efficiency gone mad. Today the US actually has two separate food chains, each supplying roughly half of the market. The retail food chain links one set of farmers to grocery stores, and a second chain links a different set of farmers to institutional purchasers of food, such as restaurants, schools, and corporate offices. With the shutting down of much of the economy, as Americans stay home, this second food chain has essentially collapsed. But because of the way the industry has developed over the past several decades, it’s virtually impossible to reroute food normally sold in bulk to institutions to the retail outlets now clamoring for it. There’s still plenty of food coming from American farms, but no easy way to get it where it’s needed.​..
    H ow did we end up here? The story begins early in the Reagan administration, when the Justice Department rewrote the rules of antitrust enforcement: if a proposed merger promised to lead to greater marketplace “efficiency”—the watchword—and wouldn’t harm the consumer, i.e., didn’t raise prices, it would be approved. (It’s worth noting that the word “consumer” appears nowhere in the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, passed in 1890. The law sought to protect producers—including farmers—and our politics from undue concentrations of corporate power.)1 The new policy, which subsequent administrations have left in place, propelled a wave of mergers and acquisitions in the food industry.​..
    Slaughterhouses have become hot zones for contagion, with thousands of workers now out sick and dozens of them dying.4 This should come as no surprise: social distancing is virtually impossible in a modern meat plant, making it an ideal environment for a virus to spread. In recent years, meatpackers have successfully lobbied regulators to increase line speeds, with the result that workers must stand shoulder to shoulder cutting and deboning animals so quickly that they can’t pause long enough to cover a cough, much less go to the bathroom, without carcasses passing them by. Some chicken plant workers, given no regular bathroom breaks, now wear diapers.5 A worker can ask for a break, but the plants are so loud he or she can’t be heard without speaking directly into the ear of a supervisor​…
    ​ Under normal circumstances, the modern hog or chicken is a marvel of brutal efficiency, bred to produce protein at warp speed when given the right food and pharmaceuticals. So are the factories in which they are killed and cut into parts. These innovations have made meat, which for most of human history has been a luxury, a cheap commodity available to just about all Americans; we now eat, on average, more than nine ounces of meat per person per day, many of us at every meal.7​ …
    Unfortunately, a diet dominated by such foods (as well as lots of meat and little in the way of vegetables or fruit—the so-called Western diet) predisposes us to obesity and chronic diseases such as hypertension and type-2 diabetes. These “underlying conditions” happen to be among the strongest predictors that an individual infected with Covid-19 will end up in the hospital with a severe case of the disease; the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have reported that 49 percent of the people hospitalized for Covid-19 had preexisting hypertension, 48 percent were obese, and 28 percent had diabetes.9
    Why these particular conditions should worsen Covid-19 infections might be explained by the fact that all three are symptoms of chronic inflammation, which is a disorder of the body’s immune system. (The Western diet is by itself inflammatory.)​…
    ​ In addition to protecting the men and women we depend on to feed us, it would also seek to reorganize our agricultural policies to promote health rather than mere production, by paying attention to the quality as well as the quantity of the calories it produces. For even when our food system is functioning “normally,” reliably supplying the supermarket shelves and drive-thrus with cheap and abundant calories, it is killing us—slowly in normal times, swiftly in times like these.

    The Sickness in Our Food Supply

    Globalization and Financialization Are Dead, and so Is Everything That Depended on Them​, Char​le​s Hugh Smith
    ​ ​Globalization and financialization have been losing momentum for years. Under the guise of “opening markets,” globalization has stripmined every economy that can’t print a reserve currency and hollowed out economies globally as only globally competitive sectors survive globalization. The net result is that once vibrant, diversified economies have been reduced to fragile monocultures completely dependent on global flows of capital and spending for their survival.
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay20/globalization-dead5-20.html

    #58883
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Dorothea Lange Plantation overseer and his field hands, Mississippi Delta 1936

    Now there is a picture that speaks volumes……….

    #58884
    John Day
    Participant

    Here is the explanation for the clotting, by Dr Seheult on Medcram. It’s a medical lecture.
    I’l briefly summarize:
    SARS-CoV-2 attacks the endothelial cells that line the blood vessels, triggering inflammatory response and the clotting cascade, so clots form in the small arteries and arterioles..
    It is the inflammation in the blood vessels that is the core, underlying pathologic process, affecting vascular organs like lungs and kidneys, and prompting heart attacks and strokes, too.
    Zinc, antioxidants, ACE-2 receptors, blood types are all addressed. Thanks to Nurse Practitioner Marjorie for introducing me to Dr Seheult’s lectures.

    #58885
    lasttwo
    Participant

    Any chance of a third party president anyone? anyone? any ideas? who would you write in? I know I can not vote for trump and biden seems dangerously close to dementia. America there has to be a better leader than these two lumps. do you think the elite are intentionally choosing weak and crazy leaders so the needed change cannot happen?. Voter turnout should be at a record low. also what the elite want.

    #58886
    John Day
    Participant

    Why is China not giving out vitamin-D like free condoms in New Orleans?

    #58887
    John Day
    Participant

    @lasttwo
    Write in Jesse Ventura?

    #58888
    lasttwo
    Participant

    excellent article on the current food supply situation . Pollan’s book Omnivores Dilemma is an outstanding read also

    The Sickness in Our Food Supply

    #58889
    zerosum
    Participant

    Eye of the beholder
    Truth is hard to prove

    What is that color, …. pink or grey?

    Capitalism is good is a competition is a war is a monopoly is a destroyed world
    Socialism is bad is a parasite is a virus is ….

    Two side is democrats is republican

    ” …. covid-19 exacerbate mental health problems”

    #58890
    lasttwo
    Participant

    John Day-
    thought a lot about Jesse, interesting case and he may run as green party candidate. He did win with the reform party for governor so not a stranger to third party politics. Could probably out debate trump.

    #58891
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    John Day: Why is China not giving out vitamin-D like free condoms in New Orleans?

    Excellent question.

    “Vitamin D deficiency is prevalent among all age groups in China”
    The High Prevalence of Hypovitaminosis D in China
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4554140/

    “Vitamin D inadequacy is common among the elderly, especially within the Asian population.”
    Vitamin D status among the elderly Chinese population
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5237548/

    #58892
    lasttwo
    Participant

    If the covid virus is man made. there is no telling the long term impact. If it is nature made the chart above is still pretty worrisome. I keep looking at the counts but my statistical training tells me the sampling is incorrect. If you want to know the defect rate you would normally have to:
    1) Have a known and reliable way to test
    2) Pull a random sample from the population
    3) The sample size needs to be large enough to gain a confidence level of say 99%

    We do not seem to have #1 so the others are irrelevant. but still 2 and 3 are also not being done.
    So WE KNOW NOTHING. Just numbers on a spreadsheet. .

    If you had a reliable accurate test and you took a RANDOM sample for a population of 330,000,000 the sample would have to be 6524789 to get a 99% confidence level. at a .05 confidence interval. That would accurately describe whats happening. The thing that makes it more difficult and outside my scope is the changing nature of the problem a person could be well today and sick tomorrow. but with a random test we would actually know a lot more. just testing sick people is almost worthless.

    #58893
    WES
    Participant

    Lasttwo:

    Statistical math is pretty much useless against something like this coronavirus. Especially, if you introduce people into the equation! Then you vere into the dismal science of economics!

    The only hope is to try and reduce the spread of the virus back down to a level where health authorities can employ their isolation and tracing capabilities.

    Based upon my visit to the local Home Depot store yesterday, where only about 50% were wearing masks, many not wearing masks properly, I would say we are a long, long way from reaching that point here in Ontario.

    #58894

    Oddly enough, I don’t trust a face I can’t see.

    #58895
    WES
    Participant

    I find it interesting that those who spied on Flynn don’t want the law applied to themselves.

    They only want their law.

    Maybe they should have thought this through before embarking down the path they took back in 2012 or so.

    Their path did not lead them where they wanted to go. Instead it eventually lead to exposure of their deeds.

    So far they have been very lucky. None of them have been charged or jailed. None are ever likely to be either.

    Only the people they have acused under their law have been charged and jailed.

    The perfect justice system, if you are corrupt!

    #58896
    kimyo99
    Participant

    @ john day ‘which for most of human history has been a luxury’

    if you limit ‘history’ to the last 2,000 years, then you are corrrect. however, if you look at the previous two to three million years, the time before agriculture, you will find that it’s meat eating which made us human.

    today’s diabesity epidemic is a result of carbohydrate consumption, you must know that. it has nothing to do with meat. the villain is the bun, not the burger. in addition, the bun contains glyphosate, high fructose corn syrup and is ‘fortified’ with folic acid, which many cannot process properly. what the body needs is folate. where do you find that? in meat.

    Eating Meat Made Us Human, Suggests New Skull Fossil

    “I know this will sound awful to vegetarians, but meat made us human,” said researcher Manuel Domínguez-Rodrigo, an archaeologist at Complutense University in Madrid.

    Past research suggested prehuman hominids such as australopithecines may have eaten some meat. However, it is the regular consumption of meat that often is thought to have triggered major changes in the human lineage, the genus Homo, with this high-energy food supporting large human brains.

    Meat-eating was essential for human evolution, says UC Berkeley anthropologist specializing in diet

    Without meat, said Milton, it’s unlikely that proto humans could have secured enough energy and nutrition from the plants available in their African environment at that time to evolve into the active, sociable, intelligent creatures they became. Receding forests would have deprived them of the more nutritious leaves and fruits that forest-dwelling primates survive on, said Milton.

    Her thesis complements the discovery last month by UC Berkeley professor Tim White and others that early human species were butchering and eating animal meat as long ago as 2.5 million years. Milton’s article integrates dietary strategy with the evolution of human physiology to argue that meat eating was routine. It is published this month in the journal “Evolutionary Anthropology” (Vol.8, #1).

    #58897
    Lonnie_King
    Participant

    Aloha Raul:

    You write “This by now is obvious. But I have my doubts over the following: “..This change in the blood is the result of severe inflammation in the lungs..”, because I haven’t seen any proof that it’s the immune system which makes the blood clot.”

    I suggest you look into Antiphospholipid Syndrome. For whatever the precise initiating cause is, we can develop antibodies to the phospholipids on the platelets circulating in our blood which causes them to clump or CLOT together. The Catastrophic version of this disease killed my wife of 46 years.

    #58898
    Glennda
    Participant

    Thank you, John Day, for that great medical video from medcram.com
    I plan to watch more of those to up grade my vastly out of date physiology education.

    Green party? I hope they run Jesse Ventura.
    But it Biden’s handlers bring in some of Bernie’s ideas, and gets Elizabeth Warren to run as VP, who knows… it might be acceptable.

    #58899
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Survey of interest, perhaps?

    Last Friday, “The Virus” survey – that nobody else has had the courage (or stupidity) to present – was fronted to regular posters on one particular website [ https://www.greaterfool.ca/ ]. Today, the results were presented. Six-thousand-seventy-three unique responses, … one-hundred-thirty-nine reported death in the family or relations [question number 3 ].

    Link to the survey’s results: https://www.greaterfool.ca/2020/05/17/dont-be-so-sure-2/

    Best,

    F.S. – Calgary, Alberta.

    #58901
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    @ John Day
    “cases of a previously unknown and serious respiratory illness appeared at a retirement village on the western outskirts of the capital in July 2019”

    Local news story, July 12, 2019:

    The symptoms usually start with a cough. In less than 2 weeks, a mystery virus at Springfield’s Greenspring Retirement Community has gotten 55 residents sick. Twenty have been hospitalized — some with pneumonia — and two people have died... …Dr. Schwartz says the community is taking proper steps and thoroughly cleaning the facility while Inova Health and the Center for Disease Control and Prevention work to figure out what kind of a virus this is and how it is spreading. “These panels have looked for several of the most common pathogens and they have been negative so far,” said Dr. Schwartz.
    https://wjla.com/news/local/mystery-virus-greenspring-retirement-cdc-va

    Washington Post, July 19:
    Third person has died after respiratory illness outbreak at Greenspring Village, Fairfax officials say
    CDC has tested 17 samples but has so far failed to identify the cause.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2019/07/17/third-person-has-died-after-respiratory-illness-outbreak-greenspring-village-fairfax-officials-say/

    From the official website for the Health Department at Fairfield County:

    July 11 update
    A specific cause has not yet been identified but additional tests are being done by the Virginia Department of Health and Inova Health System.”

    July 15 update
    No cause for the illnesses has yet been identified, but the Health Department is working with the Virginia Department of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to conduct testing for viruses and bacteria that may cause respiratory illness.”

    July 16 update
    “Results of testing by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are still pending”

    July 17 update
    CDC tested 17 specimens from ill Greenspring residents. No cause for the outbreak was identified.

    July 19 update
    “Additional laboratory testing from CDC has not identified a specific cause for the increase in respiratory illness.”

    July 26 update
    “Despite extensive testing of multiple specimens, no specific pathogen was identified as the cause of the outbreak.”

    July 29 (final update)
    “Results of earlier testing submitted to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicated rhinovirus, a virus that causes the common cold.

    https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/health/outbreak-investigation-assisted-living-facility-springfield

    #58905
    zerosum
    Participant

    Someone is hiding something/not telling the truth.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2019/07/17/third-person-has-died-after-respiratory-illness-outbreak-greenspring-village-fairfax-officials-say/
    July 17, 2019 at 2:43 p.m. PDT
    A third person has died following an outbreak of respiratory illness at a Fairfax County assisted-living facility that began more than two weeks ago, county health officials said Wednesday.

    The outbreak at Greenspring Village in Springfield also spread to the unit’s staff, affecting 19 employees, Fairfax County Health Department officials said.
    The notice that went out on July 10 from Donna L. Epps, an administrator at Greenspring, said several residents had been having symptoms of respiratory illness, including fever, coughing and body aches. Epps’s notice, which says the symptoms recede in about five to seven days with treatment but have caused pneumonia,
    This outbreak differs in that it is occurring in July whereas most outbreaks of this kind are in the winter/flu season.
    Look … the official story …. were new test made on those who were sick in July?

    https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/
    The outbreak was first detected in China in December 2019.
    On March 7, 2020 the first case of COVID-19 in Virginia was announced.

    #58906
    John Day
    Participant

    @Doc Robinson,
    Thanks for chasing that down. If you read the story, the CDC seems to have been captured at the outset. We do know that the DoD is running America’s COVID Pandemic response together with the CDC since early this year, and that all meetings are classified.
    I had a patient almost die in the local teaching hospital for the med school over late November to early December 2019. The only thing their testing found was “coronavirus”, which is the other “virus that causes the common cold”.
    Think there might have been one little intentional miscommunication from the CDC in late July?


    @kimyo99
    ,
    Michael Pollan’s words. I don’t have his email.

    #58909
    kimyo99
    Participant

    @ john day: these are your words:

    Since 2001 I don’t eat any critters at all, which was a lot harder, and my body gained weight from eating more cheese and low-protein foods. High protein meals reduce appetite.

    your personal experience confirms pollan’s error. both he and ancel keys are wrong. the food pyramid is wrong. it is long past time to discard the cholesterol/saturated fat mythology.

    #58910
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    After at least 2 weeks of testing in July 2019, the CDC reportedly didn’t identify the cause of the outbreak, “despite extensive testing of multiple specimens”. A few days later, rhinovirus was indicated when the county health department wrapped up its investigation. It took that long for the CDC to identify a rhinovirus as the cause?

    #58911
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The CDC tested 17 samples, but “had not been able to identify” the cause of the outbreak, and noted that “several” samples tested positive for rhinovirus.

    “Working with the county health department along with the Virginia Department of Health, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tested 17 samples taken from ill residents, but as of July 19, the agency had not been able to identify a specific cause for the sudden uptick in respiratory illness from either that initial testing or additional laboratory testing.

    CDC test results uncovered several bacteria known to “colonize” the nose and throat but may not be the cause of infection, and several specimens tested positive rhinovirus, the respiratory virus most frequently found in humans and the main source of the common cold, according to the Fairfax County Health Department.”

    http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/three-dead-amid-respiratory-illness-outbreak-in-springfield/article_ce2c4b14-afd8-11e9-959b-7f6fe03817ca.html

    #58913
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    In July 2019, the Virginia Department of Health issued a warning about an increase in respiratory illnesses in multiple regions “across the Commonwealth”.

    “Since the end of flu season in May, the Virginia Department of Health has received increased reports of respiratory (breathing) illness across the Commonwealth greater than observed in previous summers. Most of the reports have occurred among older adults and those with chronic medical conditions in assisted living and long-term care facilities.”

    https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/news/public-relations-contacts/archived-news-releases/2019-news-releases/virginia-department-of-health-warns-residents-of-increase-in-respiratory-illnesses-2/

    #58916
    John Day
    Participant

    @kimyo99
    Good research. Those are my words there. I made that transition for spiritual reasons, same as not killing and eating other people.
    I’m ok. My health is remarkably good.
    We each make a lot of decisions in life, for a lot of reasons, and each of us walks a unique path.

    @Doc Robinson,
    Good research!
    If you test a lot of people in June and July you are bound to find some rhinovirus, no?
    Not the cause, was it?

    #58917
    lasttwo
    Participant

    But it Biden’s handlers bring in some of Bernie’s ideas, and gets Elizabeth Warren to run as VP, who knows… it might be acceptable

    Shameful day when the president needs a handler but I reckon the current one does too. The VP pick will be important and warren or gabbbard would be a god choice..

    #58919
    lasttwo
    Participant

    Based upon my visit to the local Home Depot store yesterday, where only about 50% were wearing masks, many not wearing masks properly, I would say we are a long, long way from reaching that point here in Ontario.

    luckier in NS we are almost there but unless we close the borders it really does not matter

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