Debt Rattle October 4 2020
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[See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 4 2020]Corona Scandal? I like it. Good to see that lawyers are finally making some pushback.
As for masks, even the advocates seem to admit that the cloth and surgical varieties are only marginally useful. Call me crazy, but aren’t those face shields with a plastic (impermeable) barrier a better choice for limiting spread from coughs/sneezes/talking?
And since you can actually see the entire face through the clear shield, they are much more humane than the ridiculously stupid looking cloth and surgical coverings.
Or why not go a step further and just mandate motorcycle helmets for everyone in public? Protect against viral spread and concussions, that’s a win-win.
About the “Association of American Physicians and Surgeons”, according to Wikipedia.
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a conservative non-profit association founded in 1944. The group was reported to have about 5,000 members in 2014. The association has promoted a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism. It is opposed to the Affordable Care Act and other forms of universal health insurance.
So there’s that….
” … today I find myself wondering what news to aggregate here.”
I got an idea ….
Let’s not do reruns.
Let’s not do cut and paste.
Hummmmm!
Wait.
I’m thinking.Re the AAPS: I thought they identified some valid issues of concern related to vaccines. Unfortunately they have some very unscientific positions on other issues, which undermines their credibility.
Re Taleb’s note of the day: if only we really followed this idea. In Europe you have refugees living in squalor. Here in Canada we have Aboriginal people living on reserved located in the most polluted places, without access to clean water, often in homes that regularly get flooded. Access to health care is terrible, high rates of suicide among youth, high rates of substance abuse. Drives me crazy when people (invariably non-Aboriginal) day what a great country Canada is.I have just finished watching the video submitted by John Kirby about the German lawyer working to expose the conspiratorial fraud of covid 19, as practiced by most countries’ governments. The story appears to have been ruthlessly suppressed but deserves a wider audience. I’m eager to know your thoughts on it. Thanks for your invaluable contributions.
Re: Taleb’s note: someone here in Greece tweeted today that there has been no running water in the new camp on Lesbos for three weeks
Re: plastic face shields: they have huge spaces at the top. Useful if viruses and droplets would travel in straight lines, but they do not
A society is as advanced as its treatment of its weak, its handicapped and incapacitated.”
– Nassim TalebNormally would not check here at the beginning of a potentially beautiful Sunday…But.
I saw that yesterday on Taleb’s Twitt and I had this muse that certainly Raul would quote. Sure enough. This begs so many questions and further discussion. Potentially opening a giant can of philosophical if not scientific worms.Not sure how this squares with complexity and emergence… science(?) Evolution? To me it seems to separate mankind from it’s very source. Dominion over nature. A surreptitious quantification of what intelligence is? Which kind of goes against Taleb’s anti Quillet tack..?
I don’t know? Maybe it was the psychedelics in the 60’s and 70’s? A thousand hikes and rides to the top of the mountain? Thousands of hours spent on the surface of the great sea? I don’t know. I just don’t know.
A very strong and kind buddhist friend of mine once told me. ” ….let’s just wait and see..”
I’m all for helping the weak, the handicapped and incapacitated. No problem . But it would probably be socially *just* if in fact they themselves realized that the were in fact of those conditions….otherwise create the perfect conditions for a kind of *normalized* co-dependence. And we know where that leads….
@ Gepetto
“A society is as advanced as its treatment of its weak, its handicapped and incapacitated.”
– Nassim TalebPerhaps you didn’t write clearly enough but your closing paragraph seems to border on blaming the victims. The defining word in Taleb’s statement is advanced. We have not advanced from neolithic justice equality. We have, however, created the largest population of the most aggressively invasive species the planet has seen outside of a few insect and microbe species. Those hominids in turn have demanded the most per capita use and waste of planetary resources of any organism ever. It’s compounded greedy madness.
This has placed enormous demands on those neolithic sociomoral capacities that we are still limited to. Such extravagant resource use using such advanced technology should create utopia for humanity and steadily reduce its greedy blind waste of finite resources and harm to non-human beings. This is what the (eco) hippies were screaming about in the 60s/70s. Instead, we are regressing to conditions that resemble the Pharaonic empire at its worst. The cost/benefit ratio is very expensive for so little. No matter what, more people are impoverished every day, both in total and in ratio to the population. Meanwhile, the resources to rebuild in more humane just manner are disappearing.
Humanity is a case of Utopia or Bust. We are obviously going to bust. Advance, remember, means forward motion. We’ve taken a million steps forward with our petro-technical civilization, but the way we do a will require a billion steps back. Many won’t survive the trek.
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As for AAPS, someone I know said (just this morning) that if one doesn’t read books by con liars and artists, one’s reading list will fit under a postage stamp. Same guy quoted a Baltimore homicide detective, again this morning: “Let’s see who’s lying, who’s lying more and who’s lying the most. ”
#$%
As for inspirational songs:
If you say a prayer
Say one for me
Oh keep me in your thoughts’Cause I’ll say, say one for you
Hold it for the truth
I won’t let go at all costI can’t play the blame game any longer
Made me feel stronger
Just to say that I’m weakDark thoughts pile in
One upon another
Dark as any other place, place that I’ve beenSo light a candle for me
Be the guide that I need
When I’m all aloneSo light a candle for me
Be the joy I see
I’m on my way back homeI’ll dream of you
And all the things you do
When I’m goneI’ll dream of you
And the truth
Oh the truthIs anybody out there
As full of shit as me?
Does anybody out there feel my guilt?’Cause we can start over and over again
Lit by our own light
We’re all just candles in the nightSo light a candle for me
Be the guide that I need
When I’m all aloneLight a candle for me
Be the joy I see
I’m on my way back homeALERT: JKunstler in freefall. Consumed by the red swans of his own imagination, he hysterically claims we’re on a roll celebrating Trumps Covid diagnosis. If he really wants to rally the Deplorables, why not give them some sanity with their spittle? Defending the President’s bad behavior by not calling it out (like Trumps debate moment where he mocks Biden for wearing a BIGGLY mask) – is not cool. How much more fun could JK have had taking us down the KARMA road? I mean, how crazy is it that the guy who does a major mask smackdown in the middle of a Presidential debate ends up getting Covid a few days later?
The Assange Revenge Trial….say no more.
Gender Reveal marquee is funny…thanks for the laugh.
Perhaps Kuntsler is not trying to rally Deplorables. Kuntsler has never baan a fan of Trump. Kuntsler has ripped Trump a new asshole so often it’s useless counting.
Lighting a candle for the caregivers and shepherds of our weak, our handicapped, and our incapacitated.
@madamski: you are correct, JK would not be rallying the Deplorables as it is unlikely they would be reading his works (books included). He is rallying on behalf of the Deplorables, smacking down those who put them in the basket in the first place. A smackdown well deserved!
“A society is as advanced as its treatment of its weak, its handicapped and incapacitated.”
– Nassim Taleb
“I am, at the Fed level, libertarian; at the state level, Republican; at the local level, Democrat; and at the family and friends level, a socialist.” – Nassim Taleb
Combining these two quotes, I would conclude that government charity is not the answer Taleb would advise. More likely church groups and other local organizations. Never involuntary, as in sourced by taxes. Thus voluntary, and universal, participation is the ultimate in advanced society.
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