June 11 2025
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June 10, 2025 at 6:15 pm #189639
zerosum
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The actualerrorHATE, SCAM AND LIE was allowing them, ( IMMIGRANT ), to stroll freely across the border in the first place, with massive assistance from NGOs that provided smart phones loaded with helpful apps, plus free plane and bus tickets, plus freshly-minted debit cards for walking-around-money, plus posh hotel reservations.June 10, 2025 at 11:40 pm #189648Dora
ParticipantEl Gato Malo about the LA riots. Well planned, well funded, not a grassroots effort.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/assessing-the-los-angeles-icecapades
Success lies in getting your opponent to react in ways for which you can vilify them. you act badly until they have try to stop you, then make them look bad for trying.
you provoke, then you make the story about them
it’s all about mascots and putting vulnerable people in harm’s way in the most cynical and saccharine fashion possible. find a priest in sacraments, and old lady, a baby, and get them hurt.
now you’re making news!
the protests are not even about protesting. they’re about media. it’s theater kids making theater while using brownshirts for hire as extras. everything is optics and sets and costumes.
the center of these actions are paid performers, not protesters.
once you see this pattern, you realize it’s been everywhere for years. you basically can’t miss it. from occupy wall st to BLM to columbia to LA to sailboat greta with 5 boxes of animal crackers and a lukewarm la criox as aid to palestine, it’s all the same, exact publicity management technique.and if you can control the media, this works really well.
but once alternate outlets emerge and trust is lost, it starts to play like lame reruns of a show that was never meaningful or even interesting in the first place.
and trump would do well to realize that the point here is to create dilemma and optics. putting this down is vital and framing like “if you’re not going to protect the people of california, i will” will work well, but threatening to arrest gavin, while it plays to the base, is too hyperbolic for the center without a very specific charge that seems nowhere in evidence.
that’s the soundbite trump needs to keep away from.
the killshot line would be:“what would you have me do gavin? leave the people of califorina defenseless against the radicals you funded?”
make him defend his actions and hang the dilemma back on him.
move the frame to “why did you fund this?”
this is a perception war.June 11, 2025 at 1:19 am #189649charles
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https://t.me/Anlystintel/24735June 11, 2025 at 1:55 am #189650zerosum
ParticipantFinding someone that will change their opinions action, if presented with new fact has been illustrated in the bible.
“Find …. pillar of salt”
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Participant‘Zelensky knows he’s losing’
Z’s handlers wanted the lot, had their hearts set on it. They’ve been out-manoeuvred every step of the way, humiliated. So now the Brits revert to dirty play, hiding in shadows while they blow up innocent people. They behave like cowards, not fighting men. Go home, Brits. Go home, Yanks. Russia is not for you. It’s not for the taking.
Errol Musk
Funny, we were just debating, for fun, whether Elon Musk might ever move his empire to Russia, – if that were ever possible. The next day reports came in of Musk senior having been to the conference in Moscow. He couldn’t say enough for the country, nor its leadership.
RFK
Go man!June 11, 2025 at 10:45 am #189658Topcat
ParticipantJune 11, 2025 at 10:48 am #189659Topcat
Participant• Marine Le Pen Calls For Rebirth of Europe’s Nations
The EU is not Europe!’
“Our Europe does not reside in Brussels,”
June 11, 2025 at 10:50 am #189660Topcat
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ParticipantJune 11, 2025 at 3:36 pm #189675phoenixvoice
ParticipantZerosum
The actual error HATE, SCAM AND LIE
I couldn’t agree more. My tendency is to have compassion for people. I don’t automatically think poorly of undocumented immigrants. I live in Phoenix! I speak fluent Spanish; I’ve been acquainted with many immigrants from Spanish speaking countries. Some have their documents in order; some do not. The undocumented ones that I have met and that have been here for years tend to be very hard working, upstanding people. It would not bother me at all if they were granted a path towards legal status that was reasonable and practical..However, that is not what happened. The hard-working undocumented folks, been here for years, that time has already vetted — no path was granted to them. Instead, an easy — but still not officially documented path — was given to millions more. I can’t help but think — all of these people pouring into the country without true legal status — did they really believe that this was a long-term, permanent thing? That the free money cards, food cards, medical care and housing was just going to go on forever? That they were going to get “the easy life,” when the country’s own citizens are not granted the same? The situation is insane. And, while I do not desire to cause grief to others, and I do not wish to trample on anyone’s rights, how is it a violation of rights to simply say: you have no legal status here. You were improperly admitted. Kindly leave or we will remove you. You are free to comply (we will provide free transport! to your native country or one willing to take you!), or you will be remanded back to your native country. After that, if you still want to immigrate, proper channels are open. The court system was designed for people who committed crimes that the government desired to punish. Improperly entering or remaining in a foreign country is similar to a misdemeanor — against the law, but not egregious by itself. It needs to be rectified by enforcing boundaries and insisting that people use proper steps. Many years ago my brother was hired by a company to teach English in Japan. The company decided to skirt Japanese law and have its teachers use tourist visas for the 2-month stint. My brother was young and did not get the memo. He honestly told the Japanese official what he was there for. Japan promptly deported him back to the US. There was no need for a hearing — there was nothing to dispute! He requested entrance for an activity that required a visa that had not been obtained: end of story.
June 11, 2025 at 7:12 pm #189684D Benton Smith
ParticipantThat’s a very well thought out and communicated opinion, and I feel pretty much the same way as you do about the subject. I think we can do what you propose. It would have been easier to have handled things differently than was done, of course, but it’s not too late to correct course, devise practical means of restoring the rule of law, and then doing it. If we fail that test, too, then we will simply get what’s coming to us.
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