June 19, 2016 at 2:39 pm #28839Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
DPC White Star liner S.S. Olympic, sister ship of Titanic, NY 1911 The reason the Brexit debate has gotten so out of hand is nobody understands what i
[See the full post at: Murder, Lifeboats, an Iceberg and an Orchestra]June 19, 2016 at 4:02 pm #28840regionsworkParticipant
The overhead costs have gotten too high. No longer does the communication function of government add to economic base with infrastructure and services that are a foundation for communities and families. Instead its a burden due to the corruption of the peoples intention for their government. Everything will shrink to fit actual resources. Fighting and war only add to the burden of the future where there will be less. The Emporers have no policies – those woven by tailors are all semantic and obscuring numbers. As explained here, very few know.June 20, 2016 at 12:26 am #28841rapierParticipant
Nobody in the US, left or right pretends to know what Brexit is about but in vague and odd ways they both support stay because bad things will happen if they leave, or something. Actually I have seen almost nothing from the vast cadres of ‘Conservatives’ on the issue. The Democratic party leaders who we are always told are weak and liberal but actually solid neocons are 100% behind the EU and the ‘progressive’ crowd including Sanders are solidly behind a stay vote, and the EU, for reasons nobody ever really says.
Over here it is a vast tranquil ocean of ignorance. None of our great humanitarian ‘liberals’ ever mention the scores of the drowned or the growing interment camps in Greece, or anything about Greece. Hillary’s crowd at the State Department just issued a ‘letter’ to the NY Times who they identified as “diplomats” who urged striking Assad. Which means Putin too since the hallmark of our ‘diplomats’ is to identify leaders of state, as the state, who of course have to be eliminated. Well I run on but to tie it all up we are ruled by neocons and neoliberals but no politician even pretends they know what the terms mean. All they talk about is gender issues and guns, so strike up the band.June 20, 2016 at 11:33 am #28852TonyPrepParticipant
How long have we had a “rapidly imploding global economic system” and how much longer will it continue to implode before we can say it has actually imploded? It seems to have held together with string and tape for many years but they seem to be sort of still holding.June 20, 2016 at 12:07 pm #28853Dr. DiabloParticipant
I don’t know where you are, but over here it’s happening right in front of our eyes. You can pick chart after chart all day long: 20% on food stamps, corporate and personal bankruptcy, workforce participation rate, retail sales, inventories, energy use, indebtedness, and lately, just to let you know it’s really kicking in, suicide, overdose, infant mortality and premature death rates. I don’t know what more you’d be looking for, unless you believe the hilarious Dow, which has the wealth of the elite’s management class locked up in it, and would lose their loyalty if it or their home prices fell.
Economies the size of the EU or US are like enormous flywheels, so powerful it takes enormous abuse and enormous time to slow them down. But they are dedicated to their cause, and just as W. and O. took a decade to grind the entire military into the sand, so too they have finally kicked out enough pillars to have the economy sag and fail. But we put up a Potemkin Facade and a “Open for Business” sign, so nothing to see here.
But this is the most common end to empires. Why attack and face retaliation when you can strangle them until they collapse? Like an old tree they are burrowed out from within by political termites and eventually any strong wind blows them over. So long as they’re being hollowed out, why bother kicking them over? Then you’d get blamed. Let it happen organically, on its own.June 21, 2016 at 12:08 am #28857John DayParticipant
The sooner we all take our bitter medicine, the less-worserer things may be.
That will be very hard to see…June 21, 2016 at 8:52 am #28861TonyPrepParticipant
Oh yes, Doctor, there have been indications for years that the situation is deteriorating but I’m talking about “imploding”. That word implies a rapid deterioration and that doesn’t seem to be happening right now. The ability of the elites to keep things going, against the tide, is remarkable. I realise that, at some stage, the magic will no longer be enough and a much more rapid deterioration will set it but can they keep it going for months, years or decades? It’s all just speculation, and until people actually see it going on all around them, they simply will refuse to believe it and that lack of belief will, in some small way, help to maintain this failed system for a little longer. Allied to the fact that people want to believe it will all come right in the end, I think it could even be a decade or more before the system can be said to be “imploding”. However, I think the environment could throw a spanner in the works. The climate almost seems to be on the brink of something akin to a collapse but the speed is still unknown, at this point.June 21, 2016 at 3:23 pm #28870TheTrivium4TWParticipant
And now, for the rest of the story…
While not mentioned in Ilargi’s article, the reason every nation’s economies are imploding, indeed, MUST implode, is because of the one think that Krugman said to “never touch” and the thing Steve Keens runs away from like a crowd of children who just saw him soil his pants… THE DEBT-BASED MONETARY SYSTEM.
The foundation of the economy is the money system – or as Nicole might put it, the debt-money system IS the OPERATING SYSTEM. Guess what? The operating system is compromised. It is a prima facie fraud. The media is paid by the Debt-Money Purveyors to keep their mouths shut or, as Krugman said, their 30 shekels of silver will not be provided.
To not call out the Debt-Money Monopolists and their Mega-Corporate/Government Fascistic Empire is to be a useful idiot. The truth doesn’t care about our feelings. It just is. Actively concealing the Big Bad while it is running around starving 10s of millions of people to death and degrading and impoverishing multiple billions in no way, shape, or form constitutes “good.”
The Biblical prophets, up to and including the Son of God Jesus, CALLED OUT THE BIG BAD BY NAME. They didn’t cower. They didn’t conceal. They didn’t tap dance around the Big Bad. THEY SET AN EXAMPLE. Yes, it cost them physically in the end… but the SPIRITUAL TREASURE they accumulated was incalculable.
PosingJune 22, 2016 at 1:45 pm #28891venuspluto67Participant
If the vote is in favor of leaving and is close, the result may simply be jury-rigged to make it appear as though the vote were in favor of remaining. That’s how these things frequently go down.
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