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    Dorothea Lange Rear window tenement dwelling, 133 Avenue D, NYC June 1936   • Dems’ ‘Star Witness’ Wasn’t On Trump-Ukraine Call, Sole Source Was
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    #51101
    V. Arnold
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    The US is becoming so divided it’s time to ‘heal’ before it’s too late. This whole impeachment thing should have been bipartisan from the start, but it hasn’t at all.

    It’s too late; due to a lack of leadership, for decades, the split in society is beyond “healing” (a generous term no longer relevant).
    In my 40 years of working in warehouses (electrical, plumbing, automotive, and storage), plus my time working in manufacturing (part of the 40 years) as a machinist, cad drafter, and 3-D solid modeling/engineering person; what was previously said in private, regarding race, gender, and politics is now in the open for everyone to see.
    The polite, that binds societies is long gone…
    A reckoning is coming (maybe already on the way), which will further fracture society into the irreconcilable situation we see today.
    May the god’s help those poor ignorant souls caught unaware; for there are no innocents…

    #51102
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Dorothea Lange Rear window tenement dwelling, 133 Avenue D, NYC June 1936
    What a great shot; maybe the inspiration for the James Stewart movie Rear Window (1954 by Alfred Hitchcock.

    #51103

    I think very many NYC alleys looked that way in 1936. The laundry also always reminds me of Una Giornata Particolara, Mastroianni and Sophia Loren, though that is a whole lot less depressing.

    #51104
    Dr. D
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    “This whole impeachment thing should have been bipartisan from the start,”

    But what are they going to do? If they don’t remove Trump they’re all going to jail starting with Hunter, and the party will be destroyed. …Not unprecedented as FDR run the GOP out of town for 40 years after slandering hyper-interventionist Hoover. The GOP was no different, and still retains a high proportion of crooks, however, they were already reforming with the Tea Party push and a number of them have been allowed to retirement, not prison. So supposing they’re 1/3 reformed with 1/3 of the remaining crimes not being quite as savage or treasonous. Because HRC faction did not allow ANY reform, ANY discussion, and refused to take ANY advice as when they openly rigged the CA primary, illegally sank Bernie, then turned around and expected – still expect – the Left’s Tea Party, the Social Democrats to just vote for them ’cause-we-said-so, the party has instead openly split into two or four pieces and 20 candidates that are essentially at open war with each other. …And you just can’t win in that condition. Yet if they can’t win, the decades-long crime-fest of the DNC won’t be able to be bribed and covered anymore, and Pelosi, Feinstein, quite possibly even Obama, will go to jail for spying on opposition candidates, bribery through Ukraine and Russia at a very minimum.

    While I’m deeply sorry we haven’t arrested Cruz and Ryan, to say nothing of open, admitted war criminals like Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Chertoff, Feith, Bolton, Wolfowitz, and so many, many more, that’s the way it goes. They would be happy to arrest them, but they cut a deal with the Bush mafia and can’t take fire from the rear when fighting the CIA/FBI and the DNC/Clinton fronts. If the immediate attack would vanish, I’d be happy to go round up Cheney, even Blair, before it’s too late.

    But that’s to say, they HAVE to impeach. Somebody is going out on their shield. One of these factions is going to vanish from the earth. And at least one side has openly said they will kill and imprison Trump’s whole family if he loses, starting with raping Baron Trump, and in fact has tried like 15 lawsuits and 15 assassinations. Remember that small-plane dust-up in England where a Secret Service agent got killed? How about Trump family’s helicopter going down? That guy who got on the White House lawn and wandered around for half an hour while the cameras were unmanned? How about Secret Service posting pictures of Baron Trump while he slept? Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff don’t care what happens to you or the country. They are already on record as being against virtually the entire Bill of Rights, and clearly against the Constitutional and legal process, which is what America IS. It IS those documents, those beliefs they hate and fight to erase. They clearly are inspiring, even provably funding a civil war with blackshirts in the streets beating gay Asians and orthodox Jews, veterans and the elderly. It’s just how it goes, it’s just how Alinsky said he planned it, in the book he published and you can read.

    So the non-trial of non-Impeachment and the election tampering it represents? Sure, but that’s the least of our problems.

    “I wish it need not have happened in my time,” said Frodo.
    “So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien

    “I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace.” –Thomas Paine

    “There is no evidence of wrongdoing in Ukraine by either Joe or Hunter Biden.”

    There certainly is evidence – we have Joe on video for heaven’s sake — but it remains for a court to determine if it’s true and adequate.

    “Trump made this claim even though there is zero public evidence to support his assertion,”

    Because beyond calling people on that thing called a “telephone” for statements, past reading things on paper made of words, now CNN cannot even see the pretty pictures on the video anymore. It’s not to the level of the Teletubbies, so they cannot understand what “Well, what do you know, they fired him for me” means.

    “I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.”

    TDS is so like the air we breathe that this is their proof. Meanwhile, an equal witness or four says, “The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind” meaning we have a number of witnesses, all of whom disagree. Pretty normal. So how do we get to where any witness that-I-want is de rigor true, and 1,000 statements of my non-witnesses are de rigor false? Can only happen with “my side right or wrong”, and the truth be damned. Aha! Smoking gun! Walls are closing in! 24 hours a day, 289 days in a row.

    Trump Jr. Outs CIA Whistleblower Over Twitter (ZH)”

    Similar here. 5 papers have reported this guy, every reporter on earth knows it, yet we’re all supposed to cooperate in pretending it hasn’t happened, we’re still on script, and no one knows anything. That naming him is the illegal, much-hoped “obstruction” of investigation into an underlying crime-we-can’t-name. This is the level of psychosis, of Emperor’s Clothes we’re at, where they’re baffled and appalled when a guy Tweets, “Oh you mean THIS guy? The one that’s been openly reported everywhere for nearly a month?” The one we, me, you, us, them, have all been reporting and talking about? Sputter, spat, fire. “We all KNOW that, but you can’t SAY that. Shhh. We’re PRETENDING.” You know, like Epstein. Us normal people are over in the corner shaking our heads. See that spade? To Americans it’s a spade. We will probably call it a #@*$% the #$%& spade just for good measure. It takes someone with four years of Haaavard to be made idiotic enough to no longer recognize it, which is why, as George Carlin would say, if you know how dumb the average American is to get this, then imagine how much, much dumber CNN reporters and Harvard graduates must be to NOT get it.

    You know, words and stuff. Clicking youtube videos and not blinking your eyes or wandering off for fruit loops for 5 whole minutes. Really hard stuff. Literacy and research is a mystery like calculus almost, a secret CNN and the NYTimes just cannot crack.

    Zoo

    “Coup Has Started,’ Whistleblower’s Attorney Said in 2017 (Fox)”

    So the Whistleblower worked with Biden IN the Burisma payoffs. He drove the getaway car. Sure, I take his word for everything. And his attorney has been saying for years he’ll do any human thing to remove a duly-elected President, using the specific word “We have started a coup d’etat.”. He said, “The nation can survive even Trump supporters,” i.e. that is to say, the true enemy of the state is democracy and the American People. I know. You tell us that all the time. “Thank God for the Deep State!” (the one that doesn’t exist). But he’s not biased! Like Mueller and Comey, he’s a Boy Scout, helping Biden’s co-conspirator remove the policeman chasing him.

    …Or so it can be plausibly argued. These things need to be proved in court. Perhaps one day, before we’re all dead, we can try that for a change. Certainly what we’re doing now isn’t working too well. But what did they say, “A people get the government they deserve.” That doesn’t change until we do. Until we like objective reality and morality again. It may be a long time.

    #51113
    seychelles
    Participant

    ….Because HRC faction did not allow ANY reform, ANY discussion, and refused to take ANY advice….

    Overexuberant hubris (which signals the end of WORD-fighting) can be a bitch. HRC has simply passed the baton to the “Democratic” Party. Their attempts at suicide will likely become more effective. Impeachmentgate is adding vodka to their fist full of barbiturate tablets. And it goes without saying that they are so ideologically extreme that no ethics whatsoever from them can be anticipated. The life of “traditional” American culture is under siege from within by a subversive, no holds barred minority.

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