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    René Magritte The therapeutist 1937   The Spanish government is about to fall after the Ciudadanos party decided to join PSOE (socialist) and Pod
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    #40834
    zerosum
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    “… painful to unravel…”

    ???for The elites????

    #40836
    seychelles
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    “[the Euro] creates problems that would not have existed if the common currency itself didn’t. This was inevitable from the get-go. The fatal flaw was baked into the cake.”

    Hard to be charitable and think that the money masters didn’t foresee this from the get-go. That would be similar to arguing that implementation of the Federal Reserve was an altruistic political move. Chaos = opportunity, especially when it can be engineered over the long term so that cause and effect are masked.

    #40838
    VietnamVet
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    This is all true. But, the USA and UK do not have the Euro and are splintering apart all by themselves. Western political leaders are incompetent at best and insane at worst. To me the underlying problem is that nations are now subservient to trans-national corporations and oligarchs. The politicians serve them not the people. The Euro, debt, refugees, early death, endless wars will all get worse until either democracy is restored or the Dark Ages return. That is if a nuclear war is avoided.

    #40840
    V. Arnold
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    VietnamVet
    Western political leaders are incompetent at best and insane at worst. To me the underlying problem is that nations are now subservient to trans-national corporations and oligarchs.

    You forgot criminal. Otherwise, I agree.
    I’d put capitalism as the root problem; exploited and criminalized by the political leaders.

    There are some remarkable things going on in Russia; the 19 kilometer bridge to Crimea was finished 6 months ahead of schedule (the 4 lane roadway) and opened last Tuesday. This is a project some said couldn’t be done al all.
    Putin cut defense spending for infrastructure construction and Russia has the lowest debt and highest cash reserves of any 1st world country.
    Rather in stark contrast, no?

    #40851
    Charles Alban
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    Just do what Hitler did in the 1930s….kick out the bankers and take control of the currency. Works wonders. I’m living in Italy after the US. I’m surprised how much is still made here. “Made in Italy,” in English, is a slogan for quality. The shoes are first rate…way better than what I bought in US. Many clothes are still made here, all of excellent quality. And no Walmarts, I’m pleased to say.

    And now I’m wondering about fascism. Never really understood what it meant. When you see what was accomplished in the 1930s, i’m starting to think that we have not been told the truth about these things.

    #40852
    tabarnick
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    @seychelles
    A modern conspiracy theory often starts with the assumption of omniscience from malevolent overlords. “They could not NOT have known how it would turn out”. Hmm so the money masters were scheming years in advance to unleash a potentially catastrophic financial crisis with unpredictable effects because, what? In chaos lies opportunity? In chaos also lie financial assets being annihilated. Sorry, this makes no sense to me.

    A school of fish turns on a dime in unison, and yet the fishes in it do not receive marching orders from a fish king. They just conform to what other fishes near them are doing. In the days of Europe construction, everyone who mattered was drunk on the same ideas. They would build the United States of Europe! They were creating a New European Man! They would ban war and conflict forever! Peace, Prosperity and Unity for all!

    Oh actually, in those days there were some economists that argued that the expanded euro zone was far from an optimal currency area, and predicting the difficulties currently ripping through Europe. But those dour party poopers and their prosaic concerns about labour mobility or productivity differences within the euro zone were duly ignored if not trampled in the rush to the European Utopia.

    #40853
    seychelles
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    @tabarnick

    “They” like the way you think!

    #40854
    tabarnick
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    @seychelles
    Who is “They”? Can you name them? We wnat names! And what evidence do you have that “they” set up the Euro so the ensuing chaos after its crash would benefit them?

    #40856
    John Day
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    @tabarnick
    If I were clever enough to be “they” , I would be clever enough to remain safely covered by the cloak of invisibility. Read history much?

    #40858
    seychelles
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    ” Read history much?”

    Probably only “their” version of history. Masters of discourse, etc etc

    #40861
    tabarnick
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    @John Day
    I am not asking anyone to be they! Just to let us know who “they” are.


    @seychelles

    You claimed knowledge about nefarious actions of mysterious money master people only known as “they”. I asked just who, specifically, these people are. Human beings tend to have names. Are “they” jewish bankers? Mark Zuckerberg? Reptilians? Elohim? Apparently, you have no idea. I asked what evidence you have. Crickets. How would you know? Crickets.

    Names! Or it didn’t happen.

    #40862
    seychelles
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    “Names! Or it didn’t happen.”

    That sounds very much like a Zio-trollish mandate. Good for you if you feel comfortable with such claims, but they are of no use if other people don’t believe them or power can’t be usurped to make other people pretend to believe them. The neoZioglobalist con is fading into oblivion.

    #40868
    tabarnick
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    *I* made no claim whatsoever. You did. You claimed that unknown persons sabotaged the euro. I asked for any sort of falsifiable information about that claim of yours. Who? When? How? Your only response is to collapse into babbling about zio-globalist agents. Thanks for clearing any doubts anyone could have about how much attention your claims deserve.

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