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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle June 25 2014: We Live in Our Own Past #13689

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    Hi Raul

    I believe that we individually all wear the Emperors new clothes, we consent to the nakedness of others, so that our nakedness won’t be exposed. I would recommend reading “You are the Placebo” by Dr Joe Dispenza. A very brief summary – we get emotional (hormonally) addicted to our repetitive thoughts (i.e. the past), and once addicted, if the body doesn’t get its hormonal hit, it sends a request to the brain for the hormone, the brain can only produce the hormone if it repeats the associated repetitive thought, and so we become stuck in the past.

    The book allowed me to come to the awareness of why people live in the past. If we are to avert disaster, it won’t be because of some grand societal plan, but because individually by saving ourselves (by being present) we become authentic and the authentic self doesn’t need to identify itself with objects (consumption). I would also suggest reading the below link:

    Economic Possibilities for Our Grandchildren: A Hopeful Vision for Post-Occupy Humanity circa 1930

    I would imagine that you might think quite differently about Keynes after reading this. For the record I think Keynes would disagree with most people who identify themselves as being Keynesian.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 15 2014: There Are No Markets Anymore #12950

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    “Maybe that’s the one trait that will keep our numbers in check. Still, though that has a whiff of optimism in it, it would be a huge threat too to those alive now, so it won’t wash. The best thing for the planet would be for you to leave, it’s not a popular theme.”

    The best thing for the planet is for us not to have egos. Without ego, individuals demands of the planet would decline. Hopefully we could then mange the societal change, as we would all be willingly letting go of, celebrate even, the loses. Just “to leave” (which it may come to), shouldn’t ever be a popular theme, because it is no more advanced than people “just living”. It would be a continuation of our failure.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 15 2014: There Are No Markets Anymore #12927

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    Hi Khiori

    You’re crazy – but look at what normal is!!! Being crazy is healthier – for my part sometimes I have to take a break from reading economic news, because all it does is confirm what I already know in general, even thou there is always something new that surprises me and I didn’t know. But all this information just buildings up inside of you and you want to find someone, anyone to discuss it with, and that’s when you realise you’re crazy – because there is no one else to discuss it with!

    in reply to: Nicole Foss at Atamai Ecovillage, New Zealand #12831

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    While at university in 1994, an essay that I did, basically convinced me that economically our economic system is unsustainable. Lived with this contradiction until November of 2010, I resigned from my job and have been travelling around the world since (currently cycling in Serbia – and the weather is not great 🙂 with the intent to spend my money before the banks collapse. Most off my friends agree with me but can’t, or they think I’m totally crazy and are more interested about when my money will run out so they can say “told you so”.

    It has never been possible to pre-determine the efforts the system would put forward to preserve the current system … I’ve look foolish to a lot of people for twenty years, but I’m happy about my decisions (I’m no longer married – so I do have that advantage) even if the weather is terrible right now in Serbia.


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    John Maynard Keynes 1930 wrote in 1930 in Economic Possibilities for our Grandchildren:
    “I see us free, therefore, to return to some of the most sure and certain principles of religion and traditional virtue – that avarice is a vice, that the exaction of usury is a misdemeanour, and the love of money is detestable, that those walk most truly in the paths of virtue and sane wisdom who take least thought for the morrow. We shall once more value ends above means and prefer the good to the useful. We shall honour those who can teach us how to pluck the hour and the day virtuously and well, the delightful people who are capable of taking direct enjoyment in things, the lilies of the field who toil not, neither do they spin.

    But beware! The time for all this is not yet. For at least another hundred years we must pretend to ourselves and to every one that fair is foul and foul is fair; for foul is useful and fair is not. Avarice and usury and precaution must be our gods for a little longer still. For only they can lead us out of the tunnel of economic necessity into daylight.”

    2030 seems a long way away, I’ve sought to believe this for at least 20 years, but it is clear that the majority of people are unable to take responsibility for themselves, then they are unlikely to take responsibility for the world that they live in. It’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion … I wish I could look away.

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