CJ in VT
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Question about the helicopter drop of cash.
They want to ensure that the money gets spent so they put it on a card that expires in a year. Couldn’t people use that for normal purchases and save their “normal” money? If everyone did that no new money would be put in to the system.
Ilargi, the more upset you get, the worse your spelling gets. It was the only thing about this post that made me smile. Still, I suggest using a spell checker before posting.
“I’m assuming Deflation still = lower money supply, but not even sure about that, and not sure how lower prices wouldn’t be the biggest help to people whose income has been slashed.”
Because wages are dropping faster than prices are falling, making items with lower prices MORE expensive.
Anyone interested in Permaculture should check out the http://www.permies.com forum. They don’t like to get into politics or the “3rd ethic” but other topics relating to permaculture and homesteading are encouraged and the depth of info is deep.
I even think it’s worthy of the MORE GOOD READS list.
Ah, sorry.
Your articles are so in depth that it’s tough to wait to respond before posting.I did do a quick search for “Toby” just in case but the link was too subtle!
“One can have green or tech, but ultimately not both.”
This reminds me of Toby Hemenway’s video – How Permaculture Can Save Humanity and the Earth, but Not Civilization.
Pretty sure he references some of Holmgren’s descent scenarios.
Pretty sure Nicole or Illargi has written about receding levels of trust.
Say you had 3 people who wanted to buy a pig from you, 1 had cash; 1 had a check; 1 had a debit card. Which would you prefer?
“in other words, instead of the bank offering 1,000 hundred dollar bills to a depositor, he is given a single $100,000 bill.”
If I recall correctly (from Manias, Panics, and Crashes), this is the exact opposite of what normally happens during a bank run. The bank doesn’t give the depositor a single $100,000 bill, they $100 to each depositor out at a time… in pennies. They count out the pennies as slow as possible. People waiting in line often get fed up and go home.
Do you have an history example of your version actually happening?
Nicole, please consider signing up to be a guest on The Survival Podcast (https://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/guest-submission)
Jack Spirko has a really large following & it’s a great fit with your slightly different message. He doesn’t get the deflation/credit bubble issue or peak oil or climate change but he is beyond the whole left/right paradigm and helps people prepare for what’s coming. He did a really good interview with Kunstler though JHK was unintentionally baiting him! Also, he’s got a very successful business model which you might think about emulating…
Jack will link to your site and you can plug your new presentation.
What I would really like to hear you talk about (or write about) is how so many people (you, Jack, JHK, Paul Wheaton, Chris Martenson, even Karl Denniger to some extent) from different backgrounds/perspectives have drawn the same conclusions about:
Permaculture
Low Carb/Paleo
Critical thinking
Prepping.As much as I need a hit of “doom” now and then it is soothing to read/hear about the positive steps we can take in our own lives.
Just a quick comment as I start to read.
I was shocked to have found this post via a permaculture site. Not shocked because there’s some overlap between you and permaculture (as I’ve noted before) but shocked because I seem to miss many posts since you’ve switched from the old site. I rely on RSS and only seem to get “archives”. What am I doing wrong that I’m missing so many posts?
@TheTrivium4TW
Have you put that money into cash/CDs without withdrawing it? I know your options are limited but even a short term US Treasury bond fund would be safer than some stock fund.If you do withdraw it all, have them withhold the penalty so you don’t get hit at tax time.
Somehow I missed this post a few weeks back. You will all LOL multiple times watching this clip “Things Sheeple Say.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlX3_QbLSS8
The 2nd & 3rd are pretty funny too.
That was a lovely post, thank you.
I have a general comment that I hope you’ll address at some point. The Transition Towns movement has linked peak oil, climate change, and financial collapse. There seem to be other ideas that mesh nicely with those:
Permaculture;
Low carb/paleo diet [how’s that going Nicole? I’d love an update – I’m down 20lbs, halfway to my goal];
Aquaponics (the only topic TAE hasn’t mentioned at all);
I’ll tentatively add the Occupy Movement/Libertarians which have some interesting overlap.So my questions are:
Am I missing anything? [I’m already off grid, raising animals, and so on]Do these all fit together nicely because they deal with the end of growth [possibly linking the question to the post at hand]?
I’d create a thread but I’m not really sure what to call it. I think the new TAE site is trying address/link some of these but I’m not sure it’s there yet.
There’s a religious quality to these ideas – especially when the various “sects” argue over the details.
