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  • #85737
    Polder Dweller
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    Surely the whole control-through-vaccine-passports schtick falls apart if many of the the double-jabbed kick the bucket when they get their third shot?

    Many people are thinking that sleepy Joe won’t make it through the autumn, after all, a fall guy is needed. I got to thinking that maybe he won’t make it physically: He’s clearly suffering from advanced dementia, so that could carry him off (or it could be conveniently ‘accelerated’); He could catch a nasty virus that’s apparently doing the rounds – that would be quite‘poetic’; or, if someone wanted the chasm between red and blue to widen to breaking point, then he could be shot by a sniper on a bridge in, say, a major city in Texas, but the blame could be pinned on some MAGA-hat wearing redneck holding an antique rifle in a nearby warehouse. That ought to do it.

    #85738
    Susmarie108
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    Well written piece over at ClubOrlov. This kind of clarity is a penetrating force. notice how it invites and enables objective analysis? Perhaps more folks can wake up to the idea that lies are the root cause of all the failure and those generating the lies are the real enemy. Try applying the failure test to any of your “favorite causes” – Covid, Afghanistan, NineEleven, the Economy, the Weather, fire management – you will end up with the same root cause. The question then becomes, how to respond?

    The Afghanistan Rout and American Glasnost’

    “I believe that the extreme and apparent incompetence of the Americans in Afghanistan is the result of the corrosive effect of lies. A foundation of lies is inevitably a shaky one and can only be kept from crumbling under carefully controlled circumstances.”

    “Poor old Joe Biden…laboring under the crushing load of these lies, can do no better than assume the fetal position right in the middle of a press conference. Can you imagine what Bedlam would break out if he were to suddenly stop lying?” “Sooner or later the truth will spill over this giant dam brimming with lies. The ensuing flood is sure to sweep away everything in its path.”

    Do you not feel more grounded and centered after reading and contemplating this piece? Cause and effect. You can control how you respond….do what you can. Grateful for this site and all who contribute.

    Day 14 of my Covid experience. The extreme impacts are behind me. Fever, nausea, headaches, runny nose/stuffy nose, zombie state of being + beyond tired, and weight loss have mostly ended. At full lung capacity with no cough (please send your leftover clean air/still between many fires). Will coffee and beer ever taste good again? So strange to have been in a place of zero energy/motivation, something very new for me.

    #85739
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The ‘News Media” is nonexistent meaning in a snazzy vapid shell.

    The Lancet burned their bridges FOREVER with the totally fraudulent piece on how the Virus That Has Yet to Be Truly Isolated Anywhere on Planet Earth two years running, could *Never* have come from a lab.

    You don’t get your trust horizon back, ever, after a stunt like that.

    The Lancet editor, Richard Charles Horton, is an incompetent pompous ManWhore.

    He deserves to have his career garroted with a piano wire.

    I wouldn’t believe anything he publishes, ever.

    I regard pointing to the Lancet as a truthful source as spreading medical misinformation propaganda.

    The Lancet needs to change it’s name to Medical ManWhore.

    It’s will be marketed like Playboy magazine for Big Pharma pimps and medical voyeurs.

    Masthead cheesecake shot of Lancet Editor Richard Charles Horton

    https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.2bE91VBiSzBCXRNz1ZAIxAHaFj?pid=ImgDet&rs=1

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    #85740
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Good news, Susmarie, glad you are feeling better. 🙂

    #85741
    Bill7
    Participant

    Yesterday I got an email from JustCare, and outfit that I think does good work.
    One of the main links within it was headed ‘Get Your Booster Shot Now!’, with the title
    slightly changed in fro the article itself.

    Reading the article around two-thirds of the way down was this:

    “..Is a booster safe? Some experts say it is safe. Others question whether it could lead to severe side effects. Some also think that younger people might be better off for now without the booster. People who get the booster could be more likely to develop inflammation of the heart, for example..”

    Coronavirus: Why you should get a booster shot

    #85742
    Dimitri
    Participant

    Plot thickens

    #85743
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Thanks Susmarie for reminding me of Orlov.

    Yes lies are the Axis Mundi of the Plandemic, and the Afghan fiasco, and the debt bomb, etc.

    “Sooner or later the truth will spill over this giant dam brimming with lies. The ensuing flood is sure to sweep away everything in its path.”

    #85744
    Oroboros
    Participant

    An even better ‘lies breaking over the dam’ clip

    #85746
    Bill7
    Participant

    The piling on on Biden/Afghanistan happening now is reminding me much of the extreme narrative shift on the origin of the virus.

    This article seems to have some explanatory value, but who can say, these days:

    Lara Logan Carries a Big Trumpet About Afghanistan – If The U.S. Government Wanted it to be Different, It Would Be

    Thanks to the source of the link- I don’t remember where I got it.

    #85747
    slimyalligator
    Participant

    Letter to the editor. The Morning Call (Lehigh Valley. PA) 8/29/21.
    “Let’s do Our Civic Duty”
    “I am unvaccinated because it is my civic duty to help combat COVID-19 and I respect myself, my family and friends, and I am unselfishly participating in a COVID 19 vaccine ‘experiment’ to protect the world. How about you?” Denise Wilz, Lower Macungie Township, PA.
    Sweet!

    #85748
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • Vaccine-Resistant Viruses Are Driving ‘Breakthrough’ Covid Infections (MN)

    Related to my earlier comment today, here are some examples of how the mainstream news (The Mercury News article, above) slants their reporting to fit the narrative:

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    The Mercury News:
    “Vaccinated people are still much more protected from serious illness, hospitalization and death than unvaccinated people, the study confirmed.”

    From the actual study report:
    “…there were fewer hospital admissions and no deaths in vaccinated patients as compared to unvaccinated patients, though these differences were not statistically significant due to low case numbers.”

    —————————
    The Mercury News:
    “The team’s second major finding was more reassuring: People who never develop symptoms during a “breakthrough” infection carry very low levels of virus – a finding that should ease concerns that vaccinated people are unknowingly fueling the pandemic.”

    From the actual study report:
    [Number of people in the study population who never developed symptoms during a “breakthrough” infection]: 10

    —————————
    The Mercury News:
    “Vaccination is not to be blamed for the increase in variants with these mutations, Chiu said.”

    From the actual study report:
    “The predominance of immune-evading variants among breakthrough cases indicates selective pressure for immune-resistant variants locally over time in the vaccinated population concurrent with ongoing viral circulation in the community… In summary, our results reveal that selection pressure in a highly vaccinated community (>71% fully vaccinated as of early August 2021) favors more infectious, antibody-resistant VOCs [Variants of Concern]“.

    —————————
    The Mercury News:
    “Ultimately, we will control this pandemic by vaccinating as many people as possible, Chiu said.”

    From the actual study report:
    Targeted booster vaccinations for vulnerable populations [not everyone]… will likely be needed in the near future to control viral spread in the community.
    —————————

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/08/27/new-ucsf-study-vaccine-resistant-viruses-are-driving-breakthrough-covid-infections/

    #85749
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Xiden and his cokehead manwhore excuse for a son made their deal with Chinese a while back, in the millions at least.

    After the American Billionaire Boys Club dismantled and outsourced the US industrial base to China over the last decades, the ‘mop up crew’, Xiden and muppet masters et al, are in office to finish the final disintegration of the U.S. into a back water plantation.

    The three things that define a ‘country’ are gone in the US

    No Borders (wide open and unprotected)
    No Currency (just unlimited keyboard created fiat)
    No Rule of Law (Constitution, laws & courts ignored or optional)

    Xiden, he’d sell a rat’s assh*le to a blind man as a wedding ring

    China Joe Go Go Go!

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/mao-biden-768×768.jpg

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    #85750
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Also, while the Mercury News calls the study “a new UC San Francisco analysis,” six of the study’s authors have competing interests (the lead author receives funding from Abbott Laboratories, two of the co-authors are employees and shareholders of Abbott Laboratories, and three other co-authors are employees of another Covid testing company.)

    #85751
    Oroboros
    Participant
    #85752
    zerosum
    Participant

    How to make friends
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/explosion-rocks-kabul-rocket-reportedly-hits-house-near-airport
    Biden Drone Strike Reportedly Kills Multiple Children In Kabul, Family Claims ‘Not ISIS-K’
    Update (1605ET): The Associated Press is reporting that three children were killed in a Sunday drone strike on a vehicle in Kabul, which American officials say was carrying “multiple suicide bombers.”

    Family denies being ISIS, says six children died

    Muslim Shirzad, an International relations & Security expert and former senior presenter for political news, has interviewed the family of the deceased, who say nine individuals – including six children – were actually killed, and that they aren’t ISIS.

    “I just spoke with family members, 9 people killed (Zamaray 40, Naseer 30, Zameer 20, Faisal 10, Farzad 9, Armin 4, Benyamin 3, Ayat 2 and Sumaya 2 years old),” he tweeted.

    #85753
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    As Dr. D linked, the Saudis signed a Military Cooperation Agreement with Russia at the same time as the fall of Kabul. This is not happenstance. Nor is the inability to exterminate coronavirus. Western governments have ceased to function. Democracy and the rule of law has been flushed down the toilet as oligarchs and cultists wanted. The resulting corporate state has one and only one goal, make the rich richer.

    Lies, lies, lies and lies destroyed the Soviet Union. And so too the United States of America. The utter incompetence isn’t a conspiracy of the best and brightest, it is dumb and dumbest getting paid not to see the truth. The powerful and arrogant thought they could create their own reality. Instead, the Western Empire is no more.

    Mother Nature is laughing at human beings for burning millions of years of fossil fuel in 300 years. 16 Years after Hurricane Katrina, to the day, Gulf Coast Residents confront disaster with the landfall of Category 4 Hurricane Ida. Five Hurricanes hit Louisiana last year.

    Chaos rules the West.

    #85754
    John Day
    Participant

    From Yesterday’s comments:
    Thanks for the kind words, Dr.D.
    @My Parents said Know: The clinic officially is making COVID vaccination mandate “for the community good over the individual prerogative”. There is not actually a desire to do more than have good PR while following the narrative. Some would clearly prefer that this be unanimous, but are willing to forge ahead in political correctitude.
    What hurt more deeply was being shut down and muted by my Buddhist sangha leader this morning, when I offered the factual counterpoint to the narrative (schadenfreude, “poor people died thinking COVID wasn’t real”) several were putting forth in a kind-ish sort of way, by stating that the tragedy is that there are effective treatments, that I have prescribed to over 60 people, none of whom got worse or hospitalized. I was sternly told that “This is not the place for that kind of talk and opinion”.
    To say that there are treatments that work is too deeply disturbing of a political view for a medical doctor to voice in a Buddhist meditation group, when it followed the context of talking-about-poor-people-sick-and-dying-from-COVID (smugly).
    Then, during the Dharma talk, I generated love and compassion into their midst (heh, heh, heh…)

    #85755
    John Day
    Participant

    @Susmarie 108: Glad you are on the mend, Sister!

    #85756
    John Day
    Participant

    January through June 2020 was just before delta hit the scene.

    “Fully vaccinated were more likely than unvaccinated persons to be infected by variants carrying mutations associated with decreased antibody neutralization [..] but not by those associated with increased infectivity..”

    #85757
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ John Day

    So very sorry to hear of your treatment at the hands of people who should know better; however, it is also a clear example of a failure of understanding at a most basic level…
    It is not a failure of the Dharmma…
    Too often people make religion out of a simple teaching…
    The Dharmma teaches; the failure is not applying the teaching…

    They played all the notes, and sang all the words; but never quite learned the song…

    #85758
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    @VietnamVet: am with you.

    “Western governments have ceased to function” – YES.

    “The utter incompetence isn’t a conspiracy of the best and brightest” – YES, agree completely.

    “It is dumb and dumbest getting paid not to see the truth” – not exactly, they are being paid to BELIEVE, to agree. That’s how they retain their importance and value. It’s a small price to pay for admission to the insiders club. I believe Charles Hugh Smith refers to it as a self-reinforcing feedback loop (which will eventually implode/collapse into itself).

    #85759
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    @V. Arnold: such kind, thoughtful, and true words for John Day.

    #85760
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    A human being can be aware of its own ignorance. We can know that there is something that we don’t know and want to do something about it. It’s called curiosity.

    Machines cannot do that, because there is “no one home” capable of wanting anything. Thus, no curiosity. No matter how closely a machine imitates or emulates the actions which characterize curiosity, the inescapable fact remains that there is no actual curiosity existing therein.

    It should be clear by now to just about everyone that the forces of evil over there in the wilds of Davos and Silicon Valley are running their entire campaign as an Artificial Intelligence operation (with the help of the good folks at Google , CIA, Baidu, WEF and so on) . The sophistication and fine-grain predictive accuracy of their Event 201 covid pandemic simulation showed you everything you need to know about their level and degree of preparedness and attention to forward running prediction. They’ve been working out and war gaming this thing for a LONG time.

    In other words, their AI knew a lot more than we thought it did about pulling off the Big con. That first trick they pulled was a masterpiece. Nevertheless there are a lot of things that their AI doesn’t know, too. And due to its complete lack of actual curiosity it will never make an effort to find out.

    The same can be accurately said about the empty head hubris infected elites who are using that AI like a bludgeon right now. They reckon they don’t have to really know anything because experts and computerized artificial intelligence models will do all of that for them. Wrong! It won’t.

    In an ironic sort of way , the bad guys are the first Trans-Humans : They are a melding of human bosses and computerized artificial intelligence algorithms which do most of the thinking and decision making for them, the AI’s living masters. The quasi-organism created by this symbiosis is , of course, mentally ill. In fact its a classic paranoid schizophrenic with antisocial traits, but that’s beside the point.

    There’s something else that an AI literally can not know. It can not contain that which no one puts in. Computers can not calculate with data that is not put into them in some way. No data in equals no data out, so that means that AIs are utterly oblivious to ALL data except the teensie weensie microscopic little bit of data that it’s designers and operators allow for. Stuff like all of your cell phone’s everything is easy. Data like why you love being alive and free is quite a bit harder to digitize and steal. Therefore AI has none of that.

    Because its data is so faulty it’s answers will be faulty too, and its solutions for addressing the consequences of those faults and mistakes will also be wrong. And yes, it does go exponential pretty quickly. That’s the chaos we see rising at such alarmingly accelerating rate across the globe. Classic feed-back loop.

    In other words, the forces of evil in this case have a built-in fatal flaw that’s unwinding it like a dirvish: The electronics based artificial intelligence modeling that they (our rulers) depend on for REALITY, is itself totally oblivious to reality. An AI can calculate using the faulty data that it is fed. . . and that’s all.

    Of course as new data arrives ( such as “How mad ARE those peasants whose kids we just lured to their deaths ?”) that new data gets fed right back into the AI , which then re-calculates possible solutions and predicted outcomes and issues the next set of instructions. The elite translate these proposals into operational commands and faithfully send them down through their various institutional chains of command as orders. And there ya go. Every employee knows what flows downhill.

    These would-be demigods are as “trans human” as it is currently possible to be, but don’t worry. They’re working hard to make it as worsely possible as possible, as quick as they can.

    Their reach extends not one inch further than the bureaucratic institutions that they own from the top down. Beyond that they are cripples. Beyond the tips of their spears they are absolutely powerless. And the clarity of their world view is as fuzzy and limited as what the AI tells them it is. Beyond that they are blinder than bats.

    So here is a temporary two part work-around :

    1. Just keep putting truths out there and repeated as broadly as you can and as often as you can, because the AI modeling and proposed solutions MUST try to stop it, and every time it succeeds it creates a new opponent. In other words, use the AI’s automaticity as a weapon against it. If undesired truthful information continues to be circulated outside of their control, then they will feed that unacceptable situation into the AI calculation the derived solution will include more lies and censorship, and make new opponents. It’s a computer based program. It has no choice.

    2. Continue building whatever you feel like building, but build it OUTSIDE of the dwindling authority of the captured and dying institutions. If you’re a doctor, for example, then just go on being a doctor. SCREW the license. If that means you’re going to need legal help then hire a disbarred lawyer. You get the idea. Just go on living until further notice.

    #85761
    zerosum
    Participant

    @John Day

    REJOICE!

    You cannot save the stupid people from doing stupid things.

    #85762
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Susmarie108

    @V. Arnold: such kind, thoughtful, and true words for John Day.

    …and thank you for your kind words…
    Very happy to have you here as a commenter also…

    #85763
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    To say that there are treatments that work is too deeply disturbing of a political view for a medical doctor to voice in a Buddhist meditation group, when it followed the context of talking-about-poor-people-sick-and-dying-from-COVID (smugly).

    It’s like the US Professional-Managerial Class wants to be flushed down history’s toilet. They may just get their wish.

    #85764
    zerosum
    Participant

    Great news. Income will not go to buy guns
    USA mfg will replace and make more profits
    Just think of the part replacement market

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/shocking-infographic-reveals-magnitude-military-hardware-biden-handed-taliban
    Viral Infographic Reveals The Shocking Amount Of Military Hardware Biden Handed To The Taliban

    #85765
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    zerosum

    Just think of the part replacement market
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/shocking-infographic-reveals-magnitude-military-hardware-biden-handed-taliban
    Viral Infographic Reveals The Shocking Amount Of Military Hardware Biden Handed To The Taliban

    …and the Russians supplied the blueprint for an orderly and dignified withdrawl from Afghanistan…but some of us just refuse to learn history…

    #85766
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Fun with anecdotes!

    My sister’s friend (S) went out with a woman in her mid-fifties a few weeks ago. After the secod date she refused to go out again with S unless he got vaccinated. S declined to go out with her again. Recently, S spoke with the woman, who told him that she has been now been diagnosed with breast cancer, and has multiple tumors throughout her breasts.

    This same friend of my sister, S. is acquainted with a man who works at Game Stop, (G), age 31. G was so scared of covid that within a short time frame he was quadruple jabbed – two jabs of Pfizer! Two jabs of Moderna! G was recently diagnosed with testicular cancer. He also is having a life threatening problem in his lungs. (My sister didn’t recall the pulmonary diagnosis.)

    #85767
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Some stats from the UK; and they ain’t good…
    https://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2021/08/shocking-u-k-government-release-30th-report-on-adverse-reactions-to-the-covid-19-vaccines-2676206.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com&utm_campaign=dbr

    Yeah, yeah, Before its news, total bullshit name but, seems to be pretty informative…
    We’ll let Doc Robinson weigh in and see what he thinks…

    #85768
    Keith
    Participant

    If you’re upset, think how upset the double vaccinated are?
    Many saw vaccination as an act for taking one, or should I say two, for the team.
    Hence the vaccine passports, to encourage the third, forth, fifth…
    The “vaccine” is all about the economy, not Granny or Grand-Dad.
    I’ve heard it many times referred to as another tool in the tool box, akin to masks, hand washing, social distancing.
    Stay strong.
    I envision greater enlightenment this winter from the general population.

    #85769
    Boogaloo
    Participant

    If you’re upset, think how upset the double vaccinated are?

    In my experience they are not upset at all, at least not so far. Rather, they almost all share the “just get a booster” mindset, with very few thinking about long term consequences. We’ll see what happens once we have more data on the safety, efficacy and efficacy duration of the third shot.

    I have been careful in my conversations with people, avoiding debate, just asking a lot of questions. I find that people like to talk, and the more they talk, the more you can ascertain who they rely on for their sources of information. Just keep asking questions . . .

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