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    Eugène-Louis Boudin Beach at Étretat 1890   • Covid Cases In England Are 26 Times Higher Than A Year Ago (G.) • Vaccine-Resistant Viruses Are Dri
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 29 2021]

    #85695
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Eugène-Louis Boudin Beach at Étretat 1890

    Great art Ilargi…keep it coming… 😉

    #85696
    sumac.carol
    Participant
    #85697

    Mercola is a haunted man, hence the warning:

    Free speech is fleeting, this content will disappear in: 42 HOURS: 20 MINUTES: 11 SECONDS.

    Pretty crazy given he’s a doctor.

    #85698
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    From yesterday’s comment-thread:

    The *precious narrative* doesn’t want anyone to investigate what could be outcomes from the vaccines. No problem here, just move on. Nearly everyone I care about has been vaccinated. I’m extraordinarily worried about.

    YouTube has now added to their censorship policies a proviso that says they will take down any video that discussing Covid vaccine side effects. So Much Winning!

    #85700
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    “Residents in all 62 counties in New York state should now wear mask indoors, even if they’re vaccinated, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

    We’re right back where we started. This is never going to end. Don’t know how much longer I can take it. So frustrated and demoralized.

    #85701
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Please ‘splain these:

    * Is it a break-in if the front door is open? Why is it a break-through when no preventive protection is given?

    Enlighten me about the ‘logic salad’ in this paragraph:

    The team’s second major finding was more reassuring: People who never develop symptoms during a “breakthrough” infection carry very low levels of virus – a finding that should ease concerns that vaccinated people are unknowingly fueling the pandemic. However, vaccinated people who do have symptoms had the same levels of virus as infected unvaccinated people – so can spread the virus. This confirms a finding first revealed weeks ago by a CDC study in Provincetown, Massachusetts. “You’re essentially as infectious as someone who was unvaccinated,” he said. [..] Vaccination is not to be blamed for the increase in variants with these mutations, Chiu said. Because we naturally produce antibodies in response to exposure and infection, the virus is constantly changing to survive. “The virus is going to evolve to become antibody resistant, whether or not you deploy a vaccine,” he said. “But because we have a vaccine, there’s a way to prevent the virus from spreading and evolving further.”

    1. asymptomatic carry low levels of virus and do not shed virus significantly. How then can “a finding that should ease concerns that vaccinated people are unknowingly fueling [sic] the pandemic”? BUT “vaccinated people who do have symptoms had the same levels of virus as infected unvaccinated people – so can spread the virus” even though the jab is understood to give just that protection? However “Vaccination is not to be blamed for the increase in variants with these mutations” when the mutations are driven by the presence of jab produced antibodies? Then the ‘duh’: “Because we naturally produce antibodies in response to exposure and infection, the virus is constantly changing to survive. “The virus is going to evolve to become antibody resistant, whether or not you deploy a vaccine”, this statement is of the obvious to be followed by “But because we have a vaccine, there’s a way to prevent the virus from spreading and evolving further.” for which there is no evidence, given what the manufactures have claimed their jabs do NOT do those things.

    That whole paragraph needs go back to the editor shop for re-examination before being released to the public readership. BUT given the state of ersatz journalism … abandon all hope who enter there.

    #85702
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    my parents, from yesterday: “The rotten part is that he called me an idiot for saying I wouldn’t be taking the “vaccine”. I don’t feel “I told you so”- I feel rotten.”

    I understand. I don’t feel “I told you so” toward anyone who has been vaccinated and harmed and/or could be harmed as the months unfold. I feel angry with the gov’t for terrorizing and lying to its citizens, and brokenhearted over the potential harm that could result. Going to be a tough day for me. 🙁

    #85703
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    T-Bear, I picked up on the *logic salad* in that article, too. Makes zero sense whatsoever. That’s common now in covid/vaccine reporting. Lots of humans are apparently far dumber than I realized.

    #85704
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Logic Salad indeed Formerly T Bear.
    UpstateNYer – The grind here in Victoria Australia is one of the most gruesome in the world and it is really starting to get to people. I think people will start going out and breaking things soon. A few local teenagers committed suicide within the last few weeks and this small town is beginning to notice major cracks in the pavement.
    I face a $20,000 fine if I am caught working without a printed paper permit. I should be fine though coz Deflationista says I just worry too much.

    #85705
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    oxy: “I face a $20,000 fine if I am caught working without a printed paper permit.”

    Seriously?? Do you have to be vaccinated to obtain the permit??

    #85706
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Love reading this drivel when I get home to rest after tree planting

    https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/202108/Workplace%20Directions%20%28No%2046%29%20.pdf

    And this is fun. Totalitarianism is a blast

    worker permit
    Workplaces in Victoria must not permit workers to undertake work at the workplace unless it an authorised provider or service, or workers are authorised (visit this page to see a list of authorised providers and workers)

    Penalties of up to $21,808 (for individuals) and $109,044 (for businesses) will apply to employers who issue worker permits to authorised employees who do not meet the requirements of the worker permit scheme or who otherwise breach the scheme requirements.

    There will also be on-the-spot fines of up to $1,817 (for individuals) and up to $10,904 (for businesses) for anyone who breaches the scheme requirements. This includes employers and employees who do not carry their worker permit when travelling to and from work.

    #85707
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Not vaccinated yet. Just waiting for that one to come on in. Then I will eat kangaroos and wild lettuce.
    Mortgage will be tricky though.
    And that bothersome 3 yo.

    #85708
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Sorry, oxy. 🙁 I skimmed it – drivel is a kind word to describe it. When we “re-opened” our office last year I had to develop a written covid policy that addressed every protocol to be used for prevention and then response to potential infection. Including login and taking temps of every person entering the office, protocol for use on residential construction sites, etc., etc. Then I had to login to a NYS gov’t website, register the business and certify the policy was in place prior to being allowed to open. I get it. It’s tough.

    #85709
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Still adding posts on yesterday.

    Here’s the link to Russia-Saudi, https://gulfnews.com/world/gulf/saudi/saudi-arabia-signs-military-cooperation-deal-with-russia-1.1629762335445

    Of course we don’t REALLY know what they’re signing, but even the headline is pretty clear. The PetroDollar was the U.S. defending Saudi, raising the oil price to make them rich, they had to keep pumping, the U.S. could build no new refineries, while Saudi required payment in US$ that were recycled in the Treasury Bond system, and they could skim X amount of physical gold on the side but not break the market. The “U.S. Defends” part seems to be over. I believe they already have forays into taking other currencies in the “multi-polar world” as well. The U.S. stole the Saudi gold stored in Switzerland, so, just a matter of time. …They stole it to keep the gold price rigged, as it takes a small but steady loss of physical to maintain fake prices and they ran out of physical…thus attacking Ukr, Libya, Syria. …I mean, plus 10,000 felonies a day, but pish-posh, that’s just a given in a lawless West.

    …Oh, that was AFTER the huge South America/Peso crisis where the West put Saudi into hundred-billion of these assets, then they all dropped 90% like the later Asian Tiger crisis. Ooops! Never trust Sachs. Or the Anglos. So that was another world-breaking fortune the Anglos stuffed down on Saudi like suckers. Don’t think they forget. They then used the money to buy up, own, and merge with Wall St, CIA, and the President until they owned the place. Then used the US/CIA to export their weird Wahaabism and Islamic extremism worldwide. We’ve been living under a Saudi merger ever since. Who paid for the President’s expensive school? But they’re all peas in a pod. Look at Syria, mask off, who was there? Merger of CIA, Saudi, Israel, DNC, side helping of EU and Turkey. All run for BP/Exxon/Halliburton pipelines funded by Morgan/HSBC. What do you Parliamentary type people call it? That’s your last known coalition, unity government? I mean, it’s not really a secret, is it?

    a growing list of studies that are unraveling why the vaccinated are still so susceptible to infection”

    Because that’s what happened all 10 years, every year, of mRNA studies? Wow, a repeatable experiment: it’s not science. We just need to do it harder with more feeling. More lawyers, more spin. Then science/medicine/reality will change.

    Have to hand it to Israel. I thought they were way more locked down than this, but despite making the largest mistake in medical history, they are also identifying and publishing the results. I have heard the new Biden bill is “regulating”, that is outlawing, supplements like Vitamin D. It would take the rest of my life to read the pig-bill though, so we have to pass it and wait for the sheriff to find out.

    “Is It Time To Stop Obsessing Over Covid Figures? (DM)”

    Obviously. With the new tests, after Jan 1 everyone will be dying but of everything BUT Covid. Hey stupid: Covid doesn’t exist anymore, all these strokes are the flu and natural causes. Geez. You knew they’d have to flip this, right? If they tell you you need to get it because it doesn’t work, there’s no lie they won’t tell. They’re not just going to print: “oops, we killed everyone, burn Moderna and hang your congressman today.”

    “he was critical of the coronavirus vaccine. “It doesn’t stop infection. Or transmission. Don’t think of it as a vaccine,” the tweet read.”

    He’s quoting the CDC and the CDC Director. That’s now fake news. BECAUSE WE SAID SO, THAT’S WHY. Walensky then also said passports won’t work, such as deBlasio is installing and going to starve 70% of Black NY into compliance because they are no longer allowed to work or go to grocery stores. And wear yellow armbands.

    In this case, with no medical exemptions. So if you have chemo or MS, you have to take it ‘cause Daddy said so. In this case, “Submit AND die.” …Or you could say no. Hide and feed those Jews dissenters, get them to safe areas on an underground railroad. Your choice.

    “Residents in all 62 counties in New York state should now wear mask indoors, even if they’re vaccinated,”

    I’m more frustrated the people say “Yes, okay, uh-huh.” Like, were you not JUST watching the world’s largest bait-and-switch, ‘f– you up the a–‘ lie in the history of this sorry planet? “2 Weeks to flatten the curve”, “Just until we get a vaccine” “Only the unvaccinated need a mask” “Oops: YOU GET NOTHING!!! You LOSE!!! Good Day sir!” And you’re going to LIKE it or I’ll shut off your food, your money, your friends, your family, your doctor, your phone!

    Tell me how I’m kidding here. Literally food in NYC. Literally doctors refuse you medical care. They’ll tend people who are axe-murderers, with unlimited care, people who blew their hands off with home fireworks, gang members who shot each other – they’re all Hippocratic Oath, but not a chemo patient unvaxxed. Or a Hassid. That’s just too far. Biden literally said he would be listening to your phone, your private texts, and erasing them. CDC literally says you can’t see other people. Australia says you literally aren’t allowed to talk to your neighbors, 20 feet away, covered up, because “masks work” so well. They literally ban from talking all people who are doctors, licensed and required to talk, and de-fund debank many, even arresting a few. What am I leaving out or being hyperbolic about? My hyperbolic so far has just been being a few weeks early.

    “Does anybody have a conspiracy theory to spare? Because all mine came true.”

    It’s not going to stop unless you stop it. As I said yesterday, the only way is to “repent”, that is, realize we’ve gone wrong somehow, change directions and get back on the path. To tolerance and Liberty, I hope.

    #85710
    those darned kids
    Participant

    IT’S A DEADLY PANDEMIC! RUN FOR THE HILLS! GO TO THE MALL!)

    don’t forget to get some cinnamon buns, too.

    #85711
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Dr D: “I’m more frustrated the people say “Yes, okay, uh-huh.”

    So am I. People were definitely thumbing their noses for awhile here since almost no one wore masks inside even though unvaxxed were always supposed to. Unfortunately here in NY when the CDC recommends something it becomes “no mask no service”. Period. I don’t care about restaurants, entertainment, etc., can skip all that and not give them my money. But groceries are a bit of a necessity.

    #85712
    those darned kids
    Participant

    oxy: in the linked workplace document, these are the word counts:

    must 56
    comply 28
    matilda 0
    require 88
    authorise 70
    waltzing 0
    permit 55
    officer 21
    directions 112

    Up jumped the swagman and sprang into the billabong.
    “You’ll never catch me alive!” said he
    And his ghost may be heard as you pass by that billabong:
    “You’ll come a-waltzing Matilda, with me.”

    #85713
    oxymoron
    Participant

    No mention of Vegemite either.

    Dr D. I am sooooooooo frustrated at acceptance and compliance. The Milgram experiment in real time.
    Dob on your neighbor for kudos and soon to be cash.
    It. Is. A. Looney Bin
    if you even say 99.8% you get the sentence cut off with a ‘oghh’ – another grandma killer.
    99.8 equals liar to them. They want death. They want fear. They want to be told they will be okay. It is perverse.
    ‘These lockdowns are killing the economy’ – is met with – what else can the government do?
    ‘Okay then mental illness, suicide, bankruptcy, domestic violence and childhood trauma is up, we need another approach’, is met with there is no other approach. This is not conceptual – these are my conversations and responses with clients etc…
    The world is batshit crazy

    #85714
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    oxy, yes the world is batshit crazy. It’s a religion and people have *welcomed* being brainwashed to the point of insanity. You see it especially in those who have been severely vaccine injured but still promote vaccination. The link the other day to the mother in her 30s who is now disabled from the vaccine was literally insane: after seeing what happened, her husband still got vaccinated AND she plans to vaccinate her young daughter. No sane mother would risk having what happened to herself happen to her child.

    #85715
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I have heard the new Biden bill is “regulating”, that is outlawing, supplements like Vitamin D.

    I’m going to have to have that one confirmed before I believe it. Sounds like a bit of a stretch. If it is true, then we’ll really see overwhelmed hospitals this coming winter!

    #85716
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    It’s not going to stop unless you stop it. As I said yesterday, the only way is to “repent”, that is, realize we’ve gone wrong somehow, change directions and get back on the path. To tolerance and Liberty, I hope.

    We need to rediscover the Spirit of 1776! And by that, I don’t mean mawkish paeans to genius of our plutocrat Founding Fathers or red, white, and blue popsicles shaped like missiles.

    #85717
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The world is batshit crazy.

    And the left, and I include the extra-Democratic-Party hard left in this, embraces the whole thing, because the left in the USA has a way of attracting people who are very existentially empty. People who are empty in this way are drawn to neurotic drama as a form of existential “junk food”. The Covidian Cult drama is exactly such junk food.

    #85718
    Oroboros
    Participant

    From the Hugh Culverhouse full page to sleeping through the Whitehouse bump n’ grind, Old White Joe is officially the Turd in the Punch bowl.

    Is this by design?

    Well, the blood drinking Satanists who molest Bedpan’s muppet strings are doing this to demonstrate:

    A: That the American Sheeple public have subhuman mental capacity and you can shove anything, no matter the stench, under their collective noses and they will not react, except to say, more please master. (with an accent from a Dickens novel)

    B: Old Bedpan needs to be removed for dementia, which still has some sympathy quota optics left, and not for rigging and stealing the election, which is at the Heart of presidential credibility. The Arizona vote tampering thing desperately needs the MSMediawhores to swing a bright shiny object pass the deficient frontal lobes of the above mentioned subhuman mental capacity of the general Public.

    Oh look! There’s something bright and sparkly over there, fetch!, you adorable little attention span deficit peasants!

    C: Just part of ritual humiliation by the Bloodline Overlord Billionaires who have decided that ALL nation/states in the world need to be dismantled and subordinated to transnational corporate fiat.

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do

    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can

    You may say I’m a dreamer
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll join us
    And the world will live as one

    ~ Klaus Martin Schwab

    Bow down or die.

    Not the same as New Hampshire’s “Live Free or Die” motto on their license plates.

    Any questions from the peanut gallery?

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F1a%2Fbb%2F49%2F1abb49f9e20eae069c9a606881488e9a.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

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    #85719
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The Great Reset For Dummies:

    #85720
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Well put, mister: “embraces the whole thing, because the left in the USA has a way of attracting people who are very existentially empty. People who are empty in this way are drawn to neurotic drama as a form of existential “junk food”.”

    I remember Carlin had a routine that talked about, I think, obsession with taking pics/videos rather than actually experiencing an event as it happened. Something about “are we so emotionally bankrupt …” Or something like that.

    #85721
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I really have to wonder how the powers that be could have thought that putting Grandpa Simpson in the Oval Office would go well.

    #85722
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “People who never develop symptoms during a “breakthrough” infection carry very low levels of virus…”

    That is what’s reported in the mainstream media. I looked at the study details to see what’s being left out of the narrative. The study actually makes it clear that the “asymptomatic” (which is not the same as pre-symptomatic) cases have significantly lower viral loads than the symptomatic cases, regardless of whether someone has been vaccinated or not.

    “Viral RNA loads were significantly higher overall for symptomatic as compared to asymptomatic infections for both vaccine breakthrough and unvaccinated cases.”

    Some other results from the study:

    There was no difference in viral RNA loads between fully vaccinated breakthrough and unvaccinated cases, either overall or according to lineage [variant].

    “…symptomatic breakthrough cases are as infectious as symptomatic unvaccinated cases, and likely contribute to ongoing SARS-CoV-2 transmission, even in a highly vaccinated community.

    There was also this, which I have some questions about:
    “Differences in RNA viral loads for vaccine breakthroughs as compared to unvaccinated cases were non-significant for symptomatic cases, but were significant for asymptomatic cases.”
    They are looking at “asymptomatic” cases for the vaccinated, and comparing them to unvaccinated cases where the patients are said to have “reported no symptoms”. But patients reporting no symptoms might actually be pre-symptomatic, with higher viral loads that eventually cause symptoms (in contrast with the lower viral loads of the truly asymptomatic).

    It seems that conclusions about the asymptomatic shouldn’t be made unless there is a clear (and consistently applied) distinction between “asymptomatic” and “presymptomatic,” and good data would require a lot of follow-up with the patients, to see if symptoms ever develop.

    For the comparison of viral loads, they compared the cycles (Ct values) of the positive PCR tests, using medical records of Covid infections in patients at UCSF hospitals and clinics. Among the 598 patients who had enough data to be used in this study, there were only 10 vaccinated patients identified as “asymptomatic”. The Ct values for these 10 “asymptomatic” vaccinated patients were compared to the Ct counts for the 132 unvaccinated patients who “reported no symptoms.”

    Thus, the conclusions being made about viral loads of “asymptomatic” breakthrough cases are based on the PCR test Ct values for only ten patients! And the comparisons to the unvaccinated patients who “reported no symptoms” could in some cases be like comparing apples (asymptomatic vaccinated) to oranges (presymptomatic unvaccinated).

    Retrospective medical chart review was performed for a subset of patients from UCSF hospitals and clinics with available clinical and demographic data (n=598)… 39 breakthrough infections in this subset… 28 (72%) were identified as symptomatic and 10 (26%) as asymptomatic…

    Among the unvaccinated infections (n=433), 287 (66%) patients presented with symptoms while 132 (30%) patients reported no symptoms…

    Viral RNA loads for infected persons in the cohort were estimated by comparison of differences in mean cycle threshold (Ct) values using quantitative RT-PCR…

    There was no difference in viral RNA loads between fully vaccinated breakthrough and unvaccinated cases, either overall (p = 0.99) or according to lineage (p = 0.09 – 0.78). Viral RNA loads were significantly higher overall for symptomatic as compared to asymptomatic infections for both vaccine breakthrough (p = 0.0014, ΔCt = 8.8 [95% CI 4.0 – 13.7]) and unvaccinated (p = 9.8e-05, ΔCt = 2.8 [95% CI 1.42 – 4.21]) cases (Figure 3B). Differences in RNA viral loads for vaccine breakthroughs as compared to unvaccinated cases were non-significant for symptomatic cases (p = 0.64, ΔCt = 0.6 [95% CI -2.0 – 3.2]), but were significant for asymptomatic cases (p = 0.023, ΔCt = -5.4 [95% CI -9.9 – 0.09]), while viral RNA loads of hospitalized patients with COVID-19 did not differ significantly from those of outpatients (Figure S2).

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v1.full-text

    #85723

    From the “pig-bill“:
    “Whereas, in December 2020, 120 health, science, and medical experts from the United Kingdom, the United States, and Europe sent an open letter to world governments asserting that there is clear scientific evidence that vitamin D reduces COVID–19 infections, hospitalizations, and deaths;

    “Whereas, in September 2020, United States infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci publicly commented on the importance of vitamin D for immune health and vitamin D deficiencies resulting in increased susceptibility to infection;”

    I remember well Fauci pushing so hard to get people to supplement vitamin D. Oh, wait.

    #85724
    zerosum
    Participant

    REJOICE!

    You cannot save the stupid people from doing stupid things.

    What will survive will be the non stupid people.
    ——
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_a_Ring_o%27_Roses
    The lyrics vary, but a modern interpretation based on modern lyrics that related the words to the plague
    Common British versions include:

    Ring-a-ring o’ roses,
    A pocket full of posies,
    A-tishoo! A-tishoo!
    We all fall down.
    ———
    rebel … : a person who opposes a person or group in authority : a person who does not obey rules or accept normal
    ——
    reset · to move (something) back to an original place or position
    ——
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
    The Great Reset is the name of the 50th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF), held in June 2020. It brought together high-profile business and political leaders, convened by Charles, Prince of Wales and the WEF, with the theme of rebuilding society and the economy in a sustainable way following the COVID-19 pandemic.[1]
    ———–

    REJOICE!

    #85725
    zerosum
    Participant

    We warned you to leave!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/explosion-rocks-kabul-rocket-reportedly-hits-house-near-airport

    The airstrike conducted by the US knocked out a vehicle that sought to bomb the airport where thousands are awaiting evacuation, Taliban officials said. Zabihullah Mujahid told journalists Sunday that the vehicle was loaded with explosives when it was destroyed but provided no additional details. (proof)

    #85726
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/extremely-dangerous-hurricane-ida-almost-category-5-strength-it-nears-louisiana
    The menacing hurricane “could damage close to 1 million homes along the U.S. Gulf Coast” and cause upwards of “$220 billion,” CoreLogic report said Saturday.

    The property and data analytics firm is worried that a dangerous storm surge could hit 941,392 properties in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama.

    Finally, as Mike Shedlock notes, oil production is going to face serious disruptions:

    Ida’s projected path has made it a threat to the vast oil refining and petrochemical complex situated along the U.S. Gulf Coast, though the storm’s more easterly track Friday suggested it would miss the heart of those operations in Texas and along the Texas-Louisiana border.
    Refineries in Louisiana and Mississippi had started to reduce or halt output, which will lead to some gasoline-delivery delays.
    Projections have Ida sweeping through the bulk of U.S. offshore oil production, located south and southeast of Louisiana, said Andy Lipow, president of Houston-based consulting firm Lipow Oil Associates. He expects as much as 90% of offshore oil output to close ahead of the storm.

    “Hurricane Ida is showing up probably in the worst possible location for oil production,” Mr. Lipow said.

    Here’s a list, courtesy of Bloomberg, of all major oil and gas production sites shuttered and their capacity in barrels per day.

    #85727
    zerosum
    Participant

    Dhuuuu!
    More people getting vaccinated;
    More people are dying.
    Highest numbers since March.

    #85728
    Noirette
    Participant

    David Martin (who investigated the cov. patents etc.) said in his interview w. Kunstler that China used cov-19 to carry out a live drill in case of bio-warfare. The ‘plandemic’ aspect….

    Mulitple countries stated that hospitals are/were overwhelmed, completely falsely in many cases. A first, obvious result of a serious ‘plandemic’ is lack of hospital beds. That became a self-fulfilling prophecy, a mantra. Everywhere. It continues today. How to deal with the squeeze was not really properly adressed, either in plans or RL, afaik only China built ‘field hospitals’. (Maybe a realistic part of the ‘drill’…?)

    In CH at the first public alarm (feb-march 2020) ppl were reassured by the annoucement that 8K military had been put on standby, with another 8K for backup – CH has a conscription army – to set up field hospitals, transport the sick / docs / matériel (and dead, not spelled out), and so on. —> All plans based on previous experience with the plague and a “successful” strategy not long ago, 1760.

    Err… The hospitals were not overwhelmed (emergency services / mortuaries did have a hard time at some point), in part because all private clinics melded with the public sector, some might call it ‘were requisitioned’, but the agreements are long-standing. (Payments can be sorted later.) I only know this because I’m on the ground, so idk about other countries, except China, which publicised the ‘field hosp.’ thing.

    France, other story. Some public hospitals were indeed under terrible stress, because of chronic underfunding, past privatisations, poorly organised transport – no funds for alternative measures – etc.

    ‘Plandemic’ is bery visible. Many Gvmts (their med. board / advisors, etc.) reacted according to their laid-down plans of ‘what to do’ which were, one guesses, organised by certain factions, 1, branded ‘best practice’ moves, like lockdowns, test and trace, etc. implemented, once triggered, as pre-set. (Vax. left off here.)

    1. Big Pharma. Corrupted institutions like the WHO, CDC, other. PTB behind the scenes, pols, shareholders. Gvmts desiring control. BS models produced by stooges.

    KunstlerCast 347 — Chatting with David E. Martin About Covid-19, Vaccinations, and Other Mass Casualty Events

    plague, history, in F. https://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu-genevoise/1720-peste-marfseille-menace-genevois/story/16725052

    #85729
    cloudhidden
    Participant
    #85730
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Re mr roboto
    “And the left, and I include the extra-Democratic-Party hard left in this, embraces the whole thing, because the left in the USA has a way of attracting people who are very existentially empty.”

    Point in case:
    When I suggested that my church choir, from my very liberal church, discuss meeting, this was the beginning of one response:
    I do not think this question should be decided by a purely democratic
    voting process. We all do not have the needed information or expertise
    to make an informed decision. I’d rather leave it to our elected Board
    and our very capable staff to decide what we are going to do. We in the
    choir can certainly provide input to that decision making process.

    Mind you, the church’s “5th principle” is this: The Right of Conscience and the Use of the Democratic Process Within Our Congregations and in Society at Large
    More info:
    “In our religious lives, the democratic process requires trust in the development of each individual conscience—a belief that such development is possible for each of us, as well as a commitment to cultivate our own conscience. We could call it a commitment to the value of each person. In the words of Theodore Parker, ‘Democracy means not “I am as good as you are,” but “You are as good as I am.”’ My connection with the sacred is only as precious as my willingness to acknowledge the same connection in others.”
    —Rev. Parisa Parsa

    And…the man who responded revealed that he has no confidence nor value in those who are not a part of an official hierarchy. The elected board has access to the exact same data as the laity. There are no doctors nor scientists on the elected board.

    And a shout out of appreciation to Raul, all commenters, and the lurkers — I am so grateful to be a part of TAE. Daily we try to make sense out of a non-sensical world.

    #85731
    Dora
    Participant

    From ‘Perspectives on the Pandemic’, episode #20, about 1 hour.

    In Episode 20 of Perspectives on the Pandemic, “‘This Interview Could Save Your Life’ Part Two: The Dangers of the Injections,” Dr. Peter McCullough offers the most lucid and meticulous analysis to date of the mass injection program…

    #85732

    Doc Robinson

    Thanks for diving deeper into that medrxiv piece. I confirms my first glance idea, that it looks set to confuse, with the apples and oranges thing. These are some of the best sources we have, the xiv publications, but I’m not sure about their intentions. Same as for Nature etc., obviously.

    I started a piece on a Lancet article Friday on variants and vaccines, “Delta twice as likely to land you in hospital!”, that both Guardian and Daily Mail ran stuff on, and abandoned it when seeing the entire thing was based on “research” between between 29 March and 23 May 2021. When “Only 1.8% of the cases, regardless of variant, had received both doses of the vaccine, 24% had been vaccinated once and the majority (74%) were unvaccinated.” “..delta variant was first detected in England in March, 2021, and as a VOC on May 6, 2021.” But yeah, in the last week of the research Delta cases jumped…

    Absolutely useless. That’s what we’re up against.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00475-8/fulltext

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/27/delta-covid-variant-doubles-risk-hospitalisation-new-study-finds

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9934397/Delta-Covid-variant-TWICE-likely-land-patients-hospital.html

    #85733
    Bill7
    Participant

    It’s getting ever-harder to separate wheat from chaff.

    TJK: Sounds like a nice ride you had yesterday, with plenty of climbing. I used to visit
    the Palomar Observatory in the mid-60s with my dad, and was really awed. Neat you
    had family involved with the telescope!
    There are a few other bike riders here; I am one.

    #85736
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I find the Signal-to-Noise ratio or, SNR in the Newsisphere to be approaching White Noise.

    White Noise:

    “In discrete time, white noise is a discrete signal whose samples are regarded as a sequence of serially uncorrelated random variables with zero mean and finite variance..”

    A simple example of white noise is a nonexistent radio station (static)

    Jim White & Aimee Mann – Static On The Radio

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