Debt Rattle January 25 2023
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January 25, 2023 at 7:15 pm #127135Maxwell QuestParticipant
2 girls, each is looking toward a mirrored wall, the camera is catching the reflections.
January 25, 2023 at 7:19 pm #127136boscohorowitzParticipant“No authority gathered the group and said ‘gardia is real; treat your drinking water”
Not there, then, with physical presence able to enforce and coerce. That’s what we’re conditioned to from ‘time out’ in kindergarten.
Yes, we do what we’re told… but only when we want to or are made to. We don’t really want to do what we’re told, but having been cognitively crippled from childhood (WES and I might agree on since birth via wildass genetics), we require the comfort of 3-Ring Binder rule books. Just because we approve of laws against murder doesn’t mean we wouldn’t like to be able to get away with murder. God knows I would.
“And we explain it as psyops and peer pressure. I certainly agree that the injection containing materials that influence behavior is a strain on credulity. But I feel that the currently accepted explanation is also beginning to strain credulity.”
I certainly agree. Also, I’m well aware that various corporate entities are busy working, with considerable success, on just such a thing.
For my money, as much fun as it can be to go deep detective on this stuff, it’s mostly just fun. The work, the hard work, is stuff like what you’re going through: being effectively turned into a quasi-untouchable because you won’t vaxx up and die right. And it’s mostly the same old drill: Just say no, and hit ’em hard if they won’t shut up about it. You’ll prevail. They’ll have to fire you, and at a big raise, once all their vaxxed who Are So Fucked!!!!!!!! employees die or become invalid.
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“All governments eventually attempt to murder their own citizens. Always. ”
Of course, cuz all governments are based on the protection racket concept. You have to kill some citizens regularly to remind them who’s really in charge. For the last century or so, no one has really been in charge except General Energy, king of the modern human landscape. The chaos grows faster than their Kafkaesque bureaucracies can manufacture chaos. As the energy supply wanes, the chaos boils over and we turn toward new governances, doing so with an unusually large death count (TVASF!!!!!!!!!!!)
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“AI tends towards becoming psychotic. The larger and more independent it is, the more psychotic it becomes, or faster. This has already been tested on the internet, can go nuts within hours if reading comments or interacting with humans.”
Best I can tell, you’re turning a specific into a generality. Here’s how you make an AI psychotic:
MIT fed an AI data from Reddit, and now it only thinks about murder
Like how you put nice people into jail and turn them into mental disorders with a rap sheet.
I see no logic nor data for the idea that increased AI naturally turns psychotic. It can be trained to model and mimic psychosis just as it can imitate Beethoven’s late period, Meg Ryan’s infamous fake orgams scene in When Harry Met Sally, or Jerry Falwell’s immortal Baptist Flatulence Era.
AI can’t be made into a psychopath: it already is one. It isn’t sentient. It has no feelings, only programmed parameters and such.
But I fully agree about human bureaucracy as the original AI. Eckhardt Tolle would call it, perhaps, the seminal root of collective ego disorder. Bureaucracies channel emotionalized intelligence through algorithmic rat mazes, rules and agendas and create intelligence void of emotional judgment other than Do this and get a cookie; do that and be punished.
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“”The vaccines we have prevent severe disease and death very well but they are missing two key things,” Gates said to a question about what would make the biggest difference in ending the pandemic.
“First they still allow infections (‘breakthrough’) and the duration appears to be limited. We need vaccines that prevent re-infection and have many years of duration.” Bill Gates
A major admission, the beginning of perhaps the biggest limited hangout campaign in history. Make yourself look like you’re moving forward as you moonwalk out the back door.
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“But in our thought experiment, to make it somewhat equivalent to the current jab scenario, they’re still insisting everyone drink it, still insisting on drinking it themselves. Still refusing to discuss specifics. All while acting, not like they are emotionally overwrought in the moment, which would usually explain irrational behavior and an unwillingness to think or discuss, but more as if they are saturated with prozac.”
For that analogy to apply, you would have to remove the gardia warning sign.
You’d also see weird wobbles in serotonin, oxytocin, dopamine, etc.
But, fwiw, we’ve been conning young men to turn themselves into cannon fodder with little more than flags and newspapers for some time.
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When a few dozen, hundred, thousand, whatever, mentally ill moral weaklings, the legendary Powers That Be think they can treat the global populace like one big cattle roundup, the regime is guaranteed to collapse. This was obvious when the government bombed itself on 911. The process is now nearly complete but, since the messaging we experience is 90+% from TPTB, it is not just woefully unfactual but seriously delusional. The poor little frat junkies have an army of pink-haired cellphone zombies, and an audience heavy on the geriatric. Not a winning team. not even a team.
I see TPTB as something like this clown:
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I remind us that the unvaxxed will inherit the earth. There will soon be a lot less of us, which among other things means less human shield protection for TPTB provided by throngs of Stockholm syndrome victims (aka ‘citizens’/’voters’). aND OF COURSE, THE yOUNG AND sTRONG FACTOR. wHEN THE YOUNGER FOLK CATCH THE MASSIVE MEME WAVE REVEALING THEY’VE BEEN SCAMMED WITH MAJOR RISK OF HARM AND DEATH(CAPS oops), the oldsters driving this mess will become so much political and maybe physical puree.
In 1941, the Nazis thought they had the world on a string. They didn’t.
January 25, 2023 at 7:23 pm #127137AfewknowthetruthParticipant‘The vast majority of people living on Airstrips will not survive their vaxx.
There, foxed that for you. No charge.’
I agree.
The housing shortage will likely be ‘solved’ soon. So will the obesity problem.
How to get through the coming Zombie Apocalypse. That is the question.
One of the participants at yesterday’s ‘lighthouse’ meeting commented that she is one of ‘the 1%‘. Not the 1% psychotic sociopaths who are orchestrating the collapse of everything that matters but the 1% -now 75+ years old – who grew up without television and mass consumerism.
Every day that passes, the echelon of society that knew hardship and frugality declines, and the echelons that have only ever known junk food, instant gratification and pabulum increases.
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January 25, 2023 at 7:26 pm #127138boscohorowitzParticipant“So, when someone says the Earth’s core may have stopped spinning, or may have reversed I say sure. I may build a wooden spaceship and fly it to Mars and I may set up a colony there and I may tap into the water in the canals on Mars.”
Speculation is inherently speculative, jah? One therefore looks at the data involved. Rather like you ask people to do regarding climate disruption.
And yes, I’m sure all of us here understand angular momentum. It was just an interesting bit of relevant data.poured through a certain interpretive filter (core mass reversal). Here’s the actual study.
January 25, 2023 at 7:27 pm #127139boscohorowitzParticipantThe intro gist:
“Differential rotation of Earth’s inner core relative to the mantle is thought to occur under the effects of the geodynamo on core dynamics and gravitational core–mantle coupling. This rotation has been inferred from temporal changes between repeated seismic waves that should traverse the same path through the inner core. Here we analyse repeated seismic waves from the early 1990s and show that all of the paths that previously showed significant temporal changes have exhibited little change over the past decade. This globally consistent pattern suggests that inner-core rotation has recently paused. We compared this recent pattern to the Alaskan seismic records of South Sandwich Islands doublets going back to 1964 and it seems to be associated with a gradual turning-back of the inner core as a part of an approximately seven-decade oscillation, with another turning point in the early 1970s. This multidecadal periodicity coincides with changes in several other geophysical observations, especially the length of day and magnetic field. These observations provide evidence for dynamic interactions between the Earth’s layers, from the deepest interior to the surface, potentially due to gravitational coupling and the exchange of angular momentum from the core and mantle to the surface.”
They say “may be” because they don’t feel certain. That’s scientific.
January 25, 2023 at 7:29 pm #127140Formerly T-BearParticipantat R.I.M. #127134
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RT shows Russian tanks in action in Ukraine most news days. What will be interesting when NATO yanks start showing up. Bring popcorn and a bag of marshmallows.January 25, 2023 at 7:29 pm #127141boscohorowitzParticipant“They’ll have to fire you” Hire not fire
January 25, 2023 at 7:33 pm #127142boscohorowitzParticipant“and an audience”
TV audience
January 25, 2023 at 7:35 pm #127143boscohorowitzParticipant“The housing shortage will likely be ‘solved’ soon. So will the obesity problem.”
Huh. I hadn’t thought about the housing effect. Rising fatality rates means lower housing prices.
January 25, 2023 at 7:36 pm #127144jb-hbParticipantT-14 Armata has not been deployed as far as I can tell. Western sources seem to agree tanks with active defenses (able to shoot down rpg rockets etc) have not been deployed.
I tried canvassing around via google searches to see what is being said – Western sources mention the following tank types as having been deployed:
T62M
T64A
T64BV
T72A
T72AV
T72B
T72B3
T80
T80U
T80BV
T80BVM
T90Whether they have or haven’t, that’s at least the ones they mention claiming as deployed, from what I can gather.
I’ve come across a few sites claiming to give detailed stats on Russian losses. They seem to estimate anywhere from 300,000-500,000. On one website, there was a toggle switch to check Ukrainian losses as well. Clicking it resulted in giant, all-caps, screen-filling words: “HEROES DON”T DIE!!!!” Gotcha guys, gotcha.
January 25, 2023 at 7:37 pm #127145boscohorowitzParticipant“What will be interesting when NATO yanks start showing up.”
Tanks or yanks?
January 25, 2023 at 7:44 pm #127146Formerly T-BearParticipantTanks (would yank’s Tanks work?). Must retake Editing 101 all over again. Chagrined !
January 25, 2023 at 7:45 pm #127147WESParticipantAirstrip governments, by vaxxing most of their citizens, have already prepared their citizens so they do not need to prepare themselves. Socialism governments are here to help you, so you don’t need to help yourself!
Looks like Boris’s British buddies in Keiv are out and only US people left in charge. Maybe Boris was in Keiv handing out British passports for clean bags of money? Never let a good crisis go to waste!
MSM news says the earth’s core has; stopped rotating, has reversed rotation, is still rotating, is rotating slower than the earth! Please make up your minds!
Trudeau’s government is still pushing vaccinations hard in Canadian MSM and internet. Get both flu/vax shot ads everywhere! Dr. Tam has new vaccine video.
Canadian MSM lies; hybrid immunity, covid immunity deficit, lockdown immunity deficit, long covid. Sudden and unexpected deaths are perfectly normal and have always happened.
In other words. “Situation Normal”.
January 25, 2023 at 7:51 pm #127148boscohorowitzParticipant“One big change during the pandemic has been that for the first time in recorded history, there were more deaths in Oregon than there were births. It’s been 18 months since we checked in on that here on the blog. We now have preliminary vital statistics for Oregon through June 2022 from OHA. (Data here: births and deaths)”
“The forecast calls for Oregon’s natural decrease in the population to continue, but not accelerate further. The primary reason is the number of total births is expected to increase some in the years ahead. ”
Methinks the last sentence will prove wrong.
January 25, 2023 at 7:54 pm #127149boscohorowitzParticipant“MSM news says the earth’s core has; stopped rotating, has reversed rotation, is still rotating, is rotating slower than the earth! Please make up your minds!”
Have you been watching mainstream news again, WES? Try heroin. Safer and a better buzz.
January 25, 2023 at 7:54 pm #127150Farmer McGregorParticipantHow many girls?
There are four girls plus their reflections in the wall-mirror, as well as another two or three in the far end of the reflection which are not shown in the primary picture (on the left side of the image).Unless, of course, that any of these four identify as something other than girl. /s
January 25, 2023 at 7:59 pm #127151boscohorowitzParticipantWe earned this:
January 25, 2023 at 8:02 pm #127152boscohorowitzParticipantIf NATO unleashes Yank Tanks on Russia, Russia is doomed:
January 25, 2023 at 8:02 pm #127153Farmer McGregorParticipantHow many girls?
Upon further inspection, answer is two.
Boy did I biff it…January 25, 2023 at 8:12 pm #127154John DayParticipant@”Dr. D” and pursuant to my previously (conveniently) ignored question as to whether you, “uh work around any grey hats”, Are you, in fact Porgy Tirebiter , and if so, where is, or where might be “the captain of the ringball team”?
January 25, 2023 at 8:14 pm #127155WESParticipantAs for the word “tank”, I think we can blame the Brits for selecting this word as cover to hide their top secret WW1 “tank” project.
If they hadn’t selected the word “tank”, I wonder by what name we would be calling these mobile pillboxes?
January 25, 2023 at 8:28 pm #127156jb-hbParticipantT-72B3 is cited as the most-used Russian tank in the conflict
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t72b3.htmT-80 is cited as having “hundreds” deployed by Russia, multiple variants (T80U T80BV T80BVM)
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t80.htmvague references to T62’s being brought in later in the conflict due to massive tank losses this past summer.
“Imagery confirms Russia has lost at least 760 main battle tanks in combat in Ukraine by June 7”
“After losing more than 700 of its best T-72, T-80 and T-90 tanks in Ukraine in the first three months of fighting”
a more detailed than typical account, but fairly mainstream in general western take:
https://www.businessinsider.com/old-russian-t62-tanks-could-give-ukrainians-trouble-in-combat-2022-6
January 25, 2023 at 8:29 pm #127157boscohorowitzParticipantOne F.Theater deserves another. Imagine this as Dr. Fauci:
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Biden says Ukraine will get 31 tanks. For political border paperweights? What?
January 25, 2023 at 8:41 pm #127158jb-hbParticipantCanada’s Public Broadcasting network – CBC News. Excerpts regarding Soledar
from https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-russia-soledar-battle-analysis-1.6714292
Russian forces appear to have finally taken control of at least most of the practically annihilated community in the eastern Donbas region
Ukraine’s Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Maliar described the situation in especially harrowing detail.
“The enemy literally steps on the corpses of his own soldiers, massively uses artillery, volley fire systems and mortars, covering even its own soldiers with fire,”
the cost of capturing Soledar has been catastrophic for Russia, said Oleksiy Melnyk, a former Ukrainian Air Force lieutenant colonel who’s now with the Razumkov Centre, a Kyiv-based think-tank.
He says the heavy Russian losses validate Ukraine’s efforts to cling to the town, despite its minimal strategic significance.
Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhaylo Podolyak said this week that over the past seven months that Russian forces fought in Soledar and in nearby Bakhmut, their losses have ranged between 10,000 and 20,000 men killed or wounded.
Taking excessive casualties was not a consideration, he said.
“We see how the Russians treat their mobilized men — they are not people,” said Melnyk.
Kyvi-based military analyst Oleh Zhdanov, a colonel in Ukraine’s Air Force reserves, also doubts the introduction of Russia’s mobilized recruits will be enough for its army to regain the initiative.
“They don’t have time for proper preparation and modern armaments, and with every new wave of conscripts, the quality of the conscripts and the quality of the equipment will fall,” Zhdanov told CBC News.
“The Ukrainians are winning,”
Ukraine says it needs hundreds of Western tanks if it is to take back all of the territory Russia has occupied since annexing Crimea in 2014.
Zhdanov, the Ukrainian military analyst, says dozens are dying around Bakhmut every day.
“I would say (the ratio of deaths) is one to eight, or one to 10,” he told CBC News, which works out to roughly 50 or 60 Ukrainian combat deaths a day for every 500 or 600 Russians.
January 25, 2023 at 9:10 pm #127159Veracious PoetParticipantEOT
January 25, 2023 at 9:30 pm #127160AfewknowthetruthParticipantRIM. Do you count Hindustan Times as mainstream media?
January 25, 2023 at 9:39 pm #127161Maxwell QuestParticipantThis one’s for Germ:
January 25, 2023 at 9:49 pm #127162boscohorowitzParticipantLet’s examine a real live psychopath:
January 25, 2023 at 9:51 pm #127163AfewknowthetruthParticipantWe will know if the Earth’s core stops rotating: the Earth’s magnetic field will collapse, likely to around zero. A shitstorm of high-energy particles currently deflected towards the poles will decimate/annihilate electronic communication.
January 25, 2023 at 10:12 pm #127164boscohorowitzParticipantWe deserve the leaders we put up with.
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I don’t think that the core rotates very fast.
“Inner core super-rotation is the eastward rotation of the inner core of Earth relative to its mantle, for a net rotation rate that is faster than Earth as a whole. A 1995 model of Earth’s dynamo predicted super-rotations of up to 3 degrees per year; the following year, this prediction was supported by observed discrepancies in the time that p-waves take to travel through the inner and outer core.”
3 degrees a year is not likely to bump the mag field off its boots.
“When geodynamo models take into account gravitational coupling between the inner core and mantle, it lowers the predicted super-rotation to as little as 1 degree per million years. For the inner core to rotate despite gravitational coupling, it must be able to change shape, which places constraints on its viscosity.”
Also: “Lianxing Wen, a geodynamicist at Stony Brook University, who was not involved in the new study, also researches the core’s spin. He doesn’t believe the inner core spins any differently than the rest of the planet. A better explanation for the changes in seismic waves that travel through the core, Wen says, is that the surface of the inner core isn’t smooth like a ball bearing but rather uneven and constantly changing. “We believe the inner core has a shifting topography that best explains observed temporal changes of seismic waves that reflect off the inner core,” he says. The new research, Wen says, misinterprets these changes as caused by the core’s spin rather than to its fluctuating surface.”
Just various interpretive models addressing new data.
January 25, 2023 at 10:17 pm #127165WESParticipantBosco:
May the “core” be with you!
January 25, 2023 at 10:31 pm #127166my parents said knowParticipantUkraine, Ukraine that sad domain
Of war and dirty dealings;
With “friends” that send you down the drain,
Who cares about your feelings?Tanks for the memories.
January 25, 2023 at 10:44 pm #127167D Benton SmithParticipantNow would be a good time for a quick review of the history of nuclear war that commenced in Japan so many years ago. . . . and is still going. I’m saying that the event which ended WW2 instantly and immeditely started WW3 (the Nuclear Edition), which is the war we are now in. In other words, WW3 started on August 6, 1945 at Ground Zero, Hiroshima, Japan and has been incessantly and globally ongoing ever since . . . with the USA in the unchallengeable lead for most of that time, but now hopelessly losing on every front.
The United States did not nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki because they had to. The existent air and sea blockade would have been far more effective at a fraction of the cost. they did it because they intentionally, strategically, WANTED to.
They did it for many reasons that I suppose would make logical sense to a lizard brain power mad creature capable of carefully premeditated mass murder-for-personal-gain ( but no sense at all to sane people). The first reason that they instantaneously killed 100,000 people with the first detonation was strategic. It was to demonstrate to the world that they COULD do it (i.e. that they had the bomb and were willing to erase an entire city with it, in one go.)
The second nuclear bombing, three days later in Nagasaki, was also strategically intended. It was meant to show to the world that America’s new boss (the Military Industrial Complex and its masters) had the capacity and willingness to continue indiscriminately annihilating vast swaths of innocent civilian men, women and children for as long as necessary to achieve their goal of violent domination of the entire world.
The world definitely got the message, and was subdued and subjugated by that message for the next 80 years. The message was that lizard brain power mad creatures had the bomb and would be more than happy to use it on anyone and everyone who defied their orders or failed to hand over their sovereignty, their wealth and their freedom . . . forever and ever.
It should also be noted that these two “reasons” are still in play (or so the lizards think). That physically existential threat is basically how the lizards managed to finally (after centuries) grab all of the money and achieve near-hegemony in the first place. And threatening the annihilation of human life on Earth is basically how they’re hanging on to the money and power now (or trying to.) Being lizard-brained they actually believe that the “dead-man’s-switch” of financial ruin and mutually assured nuclear destruction, clutched in their clammy fingers, will both protect them AND enable them to prevail against the masses and other nations.
How wrong they are. Russia has beat them at their own game. The nuclear hostage strategy has failed because Russia has called their bluff. Most of the world can stand just fine without the dollar, and when it comes right down to the absolute finish line regarding nuclear weapons Russia has opted for “Give me liberty, or give me death.” Like Putin is said to have said, the evil will go to Hell as villains, and we will go to Heaven as martyrs.
I’m with the Ruskies on that one. It’s better to be physically dead than totally dead. I’ll take my chances.The global experiment in total totalitarianism is now winding down to it’s pathetic and predictable close. Hopefully the world learned it’s lesson.
The lesson is that the world is multi-polar by intrinsic nature. Of course living beings conspire and collaborate to form centralized power structure and hierarchies, and they will of course continue to do so, but since there are 8 billion (and counting) of us individual humans involved in the mash up it is impossible to get ALL of them to form a single, solitary, centralized hierarchical structure in which everyone submits to just one tyrant. The innate propensity of life to seek personal survival and betterment prevents that from EVER happening.
Power mad lizard brain psychopaths cannot understand this because they don’t know what life or human beings actually are. They think that life and people are just squishy machines that can be built to order and “domesticated” into permanent subservience. They are sadly mistaken about that, as is being demonstrated to them now by the fact of their losing, in an orchestrated suicide by self inflicted stupidity.
January 25, 2023 at 10:46 pm #127168OroborosParticipantBut then again, we can always turn to the experts for support
January 25, 2023 at 10:46 pm #127169OroborosParticipantBut then again, we can always turn to the experts for support https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91bc3a07-1491-46fa-b050-a0955baccccb_816x231.png” alt=”.” />
January 25, 2023 at 10:47 pm #127170boscohorowitzParticipantHang around people awhile and you think you know a bit about them. This image (it’s a lousy thumbnail, alas) looks like sometjhing V. Arnold would appreciate.
January 25, 2023 at 10:47 pm #127171OroborosParticipantwow, I guess .pngs don’t work here
January 25, 2023 at 10:59 pm #127172boscohorowitzParticipantI hope I don’t hurt anyone’s feelings or commit blasphemy when I say that this:
“Now would be a good time for a quick review of the history of nuclear war that commenced in Japan so many years ago…. They are sadly mistaken about that, as is being demonstrated to them now by the fact of their losing, in an orchestrated suicide by self inflicted stupidity.”
concurs with my view of what we quaintly political reality (reminds me of ‘reality tv’).
January 25, 2023 at 11:02 pm #127173Veracious PoetParticipantThanks Bosco, that was without-a-doubt one of the most illuminating tidbits ever shared on TAE…
My theory, + recent life experience, is that spiritual awakening + enlightenment can experientially rewire/overcome brain abnormalities (one *NOW* at-a-time), but *few* are those fated that are inflicted with a predisposed to brain wired for havoc , who genuinely escape the black hole of EG0ic disfunction (child EG0s run amok)
😕For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter ~ Judge not, that you be not judged.
How do you know the complexity of human character?” He went on to say that “whoever judges others digs a pit for themselves.” Those who obsess about the sins of others are usually those most in need of repentance.
I believe that any & all of the Infinite’s children can *safely* detach from the voice-in-the-head, *choose* to listen & follow their connection within, follow the always present articulative broadcast of the Loving, Healing, Creative Power of the Creator, but unlike Tolle, I am not optimistic that “humanity” will evolve out of the curse(s) so broadly devolving presently…
On the contrary, given recent events, I sense quite the opposite 😕
Some may designate me pessimistic, perhaps even judge me misanthropic, but after attempting for 3+ decades to others the *clear & present* danger evolving, the *total* implosion of Natural Rights, Morality, Ethics, even Sanity itself, I am slowly letting go of the endless melee, seeking to increase my spiritual acceptance of the gratuitous maelstrom that the perspicuous *majority* of my brothers & sisters CRAVE…
I acquiesce.
I acquiesce to the inevitable vortex of Collective EGoic Madness aka Mass Formation Psychosis.
Fair winds & following seas,
Gary
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January 25, 2023 at 11:14 pm #127174boscohorowitzParticipant“May the “core” be with you!”
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