Debt Rattle June 13 2024
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June 13, 2024 at 10:47 pm #161116OroborosParticipant
Heisenberg’s Indeterminacy Principle
It states that there is a limit to the precision with which certain pairs of physical properties, such as position and momentum, can be simultaneously known.
Where does this leave “The Truth”
However I look at Heisenberg’s Indeterminacy Principle from the perspective that simply observing something in any situation, which is a form of measuring, changes the situation.
So much for the idea of ‘free will’ or Truth
Merely thinking of ‘free will’ or Truth changes the situation.
It’s easy to get sucked into a hall of mirror regarding ’cause and effect’
Mere observation changes Reality
Don’t count your chickens before they cross the road…..
June 13, 2024 at 11:05 pm #161117WESParticipantOroboros:
That theory nicely explains why when I try and grab my Wife, she isn’t there!
Slippery are these women!Have you ever tried to put some of MPSK’s poetry to song and music?
June 13, 2024 at 11:30 pm #161118D Benton SmithParticipant@DrDRich
Btw, does anyone else notice DBS’s absence?”
I thought that I did, momentarily, but then I remembered that I had gone to find myself. Should I return before I get back, please wait for me.
June 14, 2024 at 1:40 am #161128OroborosParticipantJune 14, 2024 at 1:46 am #161129D Benton SmithParticipantThe following will probably appeal only to the more extreme philosophy geeks in the audience, but I know that there are a few of you out there (lurking, mostly) who like some meat and potatoes to balance out the usual fare of gruel, geopolitics and fruit loops, so here goes.
Despite recent outpouring (last few centuries or so) of vast troves of atheistic materialism to the contrary, and especially since the false dawn of the literally Luciferian “Enlightenment”, the world is real, and the sum total of all of the “material” in it accounts for only half of that reality Those halfwits who deny spiritual reality reckon that their pathetically inadequate science and math somehow competes with or even replaces the Divine works which the Creator realizes with a mere thought. Notice that the materialistic sciences and mathematics can only FOLLOW what already exists (has already been created) and are merely dreadfully inadequate, incomplete, and frequently WRONG “explanations” of what has been placed before them to be examined. It’s quite silly, really, and the cause of no end of monumentally insane efforts to “improve” what they can not create even so much as a single atom thereof.
The other half of reality is immaterial (spiritual, if you will, for lack of a better word) and the two exist in perfect balance for a reason that Buddhists (and it’s cousins) have developed into deservedly well respected and recognized world religions, and which Christians know to be (and worship) as the product of a singular Divine intelligence.
These realities meet in the tumultuous middle, wherein resides many many things and creatures, but especially that creature we care about the most: the so-called Human Being, that peculiar hybridization of body and soul, the creature that tries to understand itself and make things “better”.
Now some folks think that this critter, who asserts being in the image of God, is no such thing. They claim that their science proves humans to be mechanisms, and as pointless in their existence as rocks.
God, and the historical record, however seems to have other ideas. In any case we exist (with great effort) at the very nexus between large and small, material and immaterial, good and bad, right and wrong, alive and not.
In fact (and I use the term literally), when examined very closely in both the spirit-denying material sciences and spirit affirming philosophical contemplations, humans exist at the very tipping point between the two “worlds” (material and spiritual) which comprise the whole.
The deeper you dive, the more irrefutably true that will be seen to be. For example, did you know that the neuronal connections in ALL living organisms exist in the precise state of “phase change” between organized and disorganized relationship of molecules (neither fully part of nor distinctly NOT part of the structure and resultant functionality that distinguishes organic life from inanimate chemicals). In other words, right AT the “tipping point” between the two states, the infinitesimal shift from one state to the other being constantly approached but never reached or exceeded.
Mathematically the description of that structural peculiarity expresses as a true fractal. As does the phase change (tipping point) state between liquid and solid, good and bad, true and false, etc ad infinitum.
So that’s just one more case of math and science crudely and inadequately trying to “explain” a “thing” which the Creator Of the Universe (God, if you will) simply caused to exist and operate with no math necessary. God provides love, science produces romance novels. In other words. Science tries (and largely fails) to explain what Nature simply does.
So-called “science” is amazing, but it can only approach the tipping point by materially explaining it, sometimes in finer and finer detail, but it will NEVER get past the tipping point between real and explanatory, into anything actually “creative” without bridging that gap (which exists AT the tipping point) and on into the OTHER half the real world: the spiritual realm, and even then it can only advance in accordance with what the Creator created in the first place. At best we are currently almost halfway there, so don’t quit now.
June 14, 2024 at 1:56 am #161130D Benton SmithParticipant@JohnDay
I visited your blog (not the first time) but could not find any means to send anything to you that would contain my email address. My electronic and internet geekhood is about 20 years out of date. I would really enjoy further conversation about Name Stealers and related subjects, so if you can come up with a step by step on how we can exchange emails I will walk the walk.
June 14, 2024 at 2:01 am #161131OroborosParticipantSo Bill Burr gives one of the best rants ever on how Duh’merica women in general and feminists in particular have utterly failed women’s professional sports, in specific the WNBA.
“Ladies if you could just support the WNBA the way you support a fat chick that’s proud of her body & no longer a threat to you…”
https://x.com/i/status/1800893248174690774
He take on women’s soccer is equally as fantastic
June 14, 2024 at 2:02 am #161132OroborosParticipantJune 14, 2024 at 2:07 am #161133OroborosParticipantRitual Cultural Humiliation
San Franshithole scores again
Nothing but net!
June 14, 2024 at 2:14 am #161134OroborosParticipantDe-population is a happenin’ thang
In all major developed countries
Reverse the trend
June 14, 2024 at 2:24 am #161135OroborosParticipantAs of June 9th, 2024, Saudi Arabia has decline to renew the 50 year Petrodollar agreement with the Empire of Lies Ganngster Nation
Right On Brother!This agreement provided security and weapons to Saudi Arabia in return for Saudi Arabia pricing oil in Duh’merican Dollars, which helped maintain the US dollar as the world reserve currency.
Another crack in the dominance of the Duh’merican dollar.
June 14, 2024 at 2:26 am #161136OroborosParticipantJune 14, 2024 at 3:12 am #161137zerosumParticipantLGBTQQIP2SA: any combination of letters attempting to represent all the identities in the queer community, this near-exhaustive one (but not exhaustive) represents Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Pansexual, Two-Spirited, and Asexual.
Solve/answer to the following
Overpopulation
Abortion
Birth control
GenocideJune 14, 2024 at 3:31 am #161138D Benton SmithParticipantPepe Escobar brings harmonious news from St Petersburg. Music to my ears. https://youtu.be/JTaBL2wMn0E?si=SUG2jl101ghpx4ac
June 14, 2024 at 3:55 am #161139D Benton SmithParticipantSolve/answer to the following
Overpopulation
Abortion
Birth control
GenocideMake it completely legal in all countries for the subscribers to those agendas to do any and/or all of those things BUT ONLY TO EACH OTHER. Shouldn’t take more than a few years and the problem would be fully resolved.
June 14, 2024 at 5:34 am #161140Susan CParticipantDBS – Thanks so much for the disquisition. I’m not so erudite as once I was but I thought you might be interested in meeting another blogger I visit now and then. His name is Bruce Charlton, a retired British academic:
It is striking how often the expressed Christian understanding of Heaven is extremely “minimalist”. In other words; the idea is that very little happens in Heaven. Furthermore, in such a Heaven we ourselves are simplified (by subtraction of all sin).
Heavenly life is thus described very simply; including discarding almost everything most people might most value in this mortal life; such as family and marriage; and our most cherished creative and other activities. Sometimes, indeed, Heavenly life is reduced to the single activity of communion with the divine.
This sounds, on the face of it, pretty un-appealing – except as a relief and escape from suffering. The usual answer to such objections is that we shall ourselves by-then have-been transformed… Such that what seems now to be an aetiolated existence; will, when we are actually in that situation, be wholly satisfying; indeed joyful beyond our current possibility of understanding.
It is probably clear from the above that I – by contrast – regard Heaven in a “maximalist” kind of way; as greatly enriched by more, and continuousness, of broadly the same kind of positive things that are best in this mortal life.
Thus I regard Heaven as a place of more, and more loving, and everlasting relationships – including family, marriage, friendship; and ultimately loving relationships of other forms with other kinds of (“non-human”) resurrected Beings such as animals, plants, and natural elemental Beings.
And I regard Heaven as a place of “work” – the best kind of work; that work which derives from creative love. Which is to say creative work, fulfilling work; work that adds-to, enhances, enriches divine creation.
It is striking how often the expressed Christian understanding of Heaven is extremely “minimalist”. In other words; the idea is that very little happens in Heaven.
Furthermore, in such a Heaven we ourselves are simplified (by subtraction of all sin).
Heavenly life is thus described very simply; including discarding almost everything most people might most value in this mortal life; such as family and marriage; and our most cherished creative and other activities.
Sometimes, indeed, Heavenly life is reduced to the single activity of communion with the divine.
This sounds, on the face of it, pretty un-appealing – except as a relief and escape from suffering.
The usual answer to such objections is that we shall ourselves by-then have-been transformed…
Such that what seems now to be an aetiolated existence; will, when we are actually in that situation, be wholly satisfying; indeed joyful beyond our current possibility of understanding.
It is probably clear from the above that I – by contrast – regard Heaven in a “maximalist” kind of way; as greatly enriched by more, and continuousness, of broadly the same kind of positive things that are best in this mortal life.
Thus I regard Heaven as a place of more, and more loving, and everlasting relationships – including family, marriage, friendship; and ultimately loving relationships of other forms with other kinds of (“non-human”) resurrected Beings such as animals, plants, and natural elemental Beings.
And I regard Heaven as a place of “work” – the best kind of work; that work which derives from creative love.
Thanks for the meat and potatoes 🙂
June 14, 2024 at 9:31 am #161147D Benton SmithParticipant@SusanC
Thanks for the meat and potatoes
You’re welcome, and thank YOU for the four good things you sent to me, namely the nice compliment, the link to Bruce Charlton (whose blog I’m now reading in the middle of the night because it was too good to stop) and the two excellent new words added to my vocabulary because I had to look them up (disquisition and etiolated).
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