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    Pablo Picasso The blue room 1901   • Next Stage – The General Staff’s Targets After Putin’s Feint (Helmer) • NYT Docs: Putin Was Willing To Compr
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 18 2024]

    #161418
    tboc
    Participant

    The term, “The Observable Universe”, does not mean what you think it does.

    #161419
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Can’t stop, won’t stop:

    “Putin ‘is done’ as losses in Ukraine degrade Kremlin’s force projection | Peter Zeihan

    “West agrees to use Russian assets to fund Kyiv as Putin faces small war gains | Michael Bociurkiw

    Putin could lose initiative as Ukraine stabilises Kharkiv and hits new targets in Russia | Frontline

    How ‘humiliated’ Putin lost the trust of his inner circle | Prof. Mark Galeotti

    How Ukraine’s strikes on Russia could make Putin’s commanders rethink the war | George Barros
    Times Radio

    Yup, Russia’s giving up. Any time now.

    Speaking of, where’s the Ike? So safe and unharmed no one’s seen it.

    AI: Robots are incapable…completely incapable…of taking an ORDER. For french fries.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/clearly-not-satisfied-mcdonalds-winds-down-ibms-drive-thru-ai-chatbot
    Look out they’re taking over, the world’s about to end. Apparently all we have to do to defeat the war ‘bots is throw caramel sundaes at them.

    “Unelected Bureaucrat” photo. We can now add for Meloni “Demands we start WWIII”. Sadly. Wouldn’t want to leave her out. Apparently new President of Mexico is the same. Another scam Obama, or Johnson.

    “Russia will retaliate by putting a lien on $40 trillion at the Euroclear custodian.”

    elections is really irksome to them. They hate the whole idea that people they despise would have a role in choosing the government or have any power whatsoever”

    It is emotional, such as they have emotion. They are the children of angels. We are vermin. They can’t stand referring to us about anything, and making jokes, rigging it, and laughing up your sleeve only goes so far. It’s tiresome after a while. So they do it publicly, get themselves in trouble because they jsut get tired of lying about how they control everything and we’re morons not to see it, y’know?

    Rickards: come to think of it, RUSSIA is now getting war reparations, FROM EUROPE. That’s the $40T in Euroclear they can attach. Here’s what they may be thinking: of course 1) If they don’t get $61B this week, the entire Western system collapses, so there’s no “Next move ahead” Jim is talking about, and 2) IF they can get this and hold it a while, they can SELL that IF we ever stop attacking Russia with nukes, Smallpox, IceNine, etc, THEN the entire Western Banking System will collapse. …But it’s past tense, so they have buy in, it’s like “Financial terrorism” of a sort. It’s We’re all Lashed together. We fight Russia or we die. See?

    “Democrat hoaxes used to be convincing,” …But now their hoax is that Biden, Harris, and Clinton exist as viable people. No one can suspend that much disbelief.

    “• Next Stage – The General Staff’s Targets After Putin’s Feint (Helmer)

    So two summits, basically everyone in the world wants to join BRIICS, and NOW. Like they could add 100 nations in the next two weeks. G7 can’t even hold seven nations’ attention: G1 keeps wandering off.

    “Putin is confident of victory not only over Ukraine, but also over the entire collective West.”

    He didn’t win: we lost. Now he MIGHT have won, he might be able to win, he’s playing well: but every move I see is us trying to lose. Hour after hour, day after day, not a single smart move as far back as I can remember. Like to ‘08 or ‘99. Make you long for the days of Rumsfeld and Cheney who while being the most evil on the planet were at least a COMPETENT evil.

    Not that it matters – not sure to waste time on this – but the Swiss Canape Summit only had these few show up. A bunch didn’t sign the “memo” anyway. And? And the memo they signed was made of weasel words. It only referred to Ukraine’s “Article 4” of the UN charter, nation’s sovereign boundaries, etc. Right? So they are signing on, supporting “Unprovoked Russian Aggression”. NOPE. Article 4 ALSO supports “When a nation is under grave and military threat”, that is to say RUSSIA’s position in the matter. They can barely IMPLY that they are Pro Ukraine and BARELY get a sign on, but without the weasel words they couldn’t even get this bad a showing, a few other nations took this Article 4 ambiguity loophole and would have backed out. Nice. Nobody likes you G7, and your mother dresses you funny.

    “• NYT Docs: Putin Was Willing To Compromise To End War in 2022 (Antiwar)

    Another conspiracy theory first FROM ( I have no doubt they reported it) then PROVEN (now) from the NY Times. NY Time retracting and contradicting themselves, or sure feels like it. Yeah, we all knew. Because it was never a secret, it was a lie.

    • US Must Be Saved From WWIII – Trump (RT)

    I forget who said it – they must still believe there is SOME validity to elections, however slight – that the Democrats need to start WWIII, are desperate to start WWIII, before they get dragged out of office. This is their “last gambit”. (In reality they never stop and will fight being ID’d then fired from State and Agencies for Treason.) Maybe it’s more like the window is closing on their weirdo Death Cult religion. IF the people realize what they’re up to, AND that they exist, they will mobilize and be an immune system to stop them. Which we have. But right now they own “The Commanding Heights” as is being said this week (Alistair). They own business, Media, government, State, Schools, NGOs, and banking (maybe). We own us. And we’re going to kick their ass quite handily.

    But you can see the problem: EVEN WITH a 100% corrupt FBI, CIA, State, DoJ they can’t stop us NOR start WWIII, so if they firmly lose even ONE commanding height, it’s over. And the Whole Federal Government is quite a Ship of the Line to Un-Pirate. No way to win and kill everybody after that. And then what will their Death Cult God do?

    But Trump’s discussion of this is still for idiots because almost no one in public or electorate is up to speed. That’s how it goes.

    “• If Putin Ukraine Peace Offer Rejected, Next To Be Tougher – Intel Chief (TASS)

    They’re kind of at a loss. We’re so infantile and retarded, they have to try to visualize how to tell us “Water is wet” and “Wars have consequences” because we literally are proving every day we don’t know that. So sorry if it sounds like talking down to us.

    “NATO could soon face “something that it has never faced before, and that is two nuclear-powered potential adversaries”

    Like this. Apparently he has never read a single page of history concerning the last 80 years and never hear of “Russia” and “China” having nukes the day after we did. These are our top statesmen. Never heard of the “Cold War” thingie nor “Mutual Assured Destruction.” Nope! “Never before now” he says. That’s why NATO exists: Because Russia was never a threat or adversary.

    “• NATO In Talks To Put More Nuclear Weapons On Standby – Stoltenberg (RT)

    Again, thankfully, THEY set up the line that THEY can’t start it, they have to get the guilt on RUSSIA to start it. So this is one legal way to try to have a little “accident” that ends all life on earth. Oopsie!!

    “• Schumer Plans Vote on Bill to Ban Bump Stocks After Supreme Court Ruling (ET)

    So many levels are so dumb I can’t name them all. “Shall not be infringed” but until the USSC strikes down ALL gun laws (their own illiteracy) that won’t matter. That we should PROMOTE bump stocks as much as possible because they work so badly they’re safer: you can’t hit anything with one on. But yeah, the point here is, if you want a LAW, you have to pass a law. That’s the minimum and it’s way too much for them.

    “2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas, in which a gunman used firearms equipped with bump stocks to fire multiple guns”

    Yeah…about that. Are we ever going to look into that event? What else has vanished “Who has power by what you don’t talk about”: Maui. Ike. Congressional Baseball shooting. Sri Lanka. Ohio. Chinese Bioweapons labs in CA. List your own.

    Yeah, Vegas, one 60-year old guy shot out of two windows in two different apartments, after hauling in enough weapons for a platoon. …In the most surveilled square inches of property in the state. Nobody saw nothin’. Nobody knows nothin’. Couldn’t figure it out. I can figure this out: the Casino was in on it, so what does that mean? After being in on it, nothing happened, so what does that mean? The police and feds know what I know, so what does that mean?

    But I am a Coincidence Theorist and a guy can be in two places at once all the time.

    “The UK’s ruling Conservative Party is heading for “electoral extinction,”

    OMG about time. They had Cameron, May, and Johnson, if you didn’t already have suspicions after, or even during, Thatcher. What were scandals about Heath? I don’t care what they do after, but Conservative is not Conservative, nor do they care a whit for their own platform, who are only eclipsed by Labour being violently ANTI-Labour, pro-bank, and Pro-war, like Blair. If they weren’t compared to someone just as dreadful, they’d look beyond the pale. They are the most perfect example of the UniParty, — that is, an unelected, oligarchic dictatorship – worldwide. At least they’re first in something.

    “• Brain Chips To Replace Cell Phones In Future – Musk (RT)

    You DO know that when you put foreign parts inside the human body there’s a good chance of DEATH, right? From several things, but sepsis being one? What happens when it breaks like every cell phone you can get today, barely works, they run a “patch” that cuts the processor and battery in half. Get a couple new brain surgeries each year? I can’t fix my computer and I can drive it to the guys and dump it on their desk for 6 weeks. You haven’t made a unit that can work since the i386.

    How does this keep happening??? (Looks up from typing, ON the computer, that doesn’t work, WHILE typing an article on data hacks and digital surveillance) “Hey honey, what we need to fix the world is this amazing new computer thingie they just invented!” “Uh-huh”.

    You haven’t fixed the one you had once in the last 40 years. We have 4x 2.2 BILLION processes per second, instead of 133 THOUSAND processes per second, and the World processor on the 133hz from the Salvation Army 1990 PC works FASTER.

    This proves the point there is LITERALLY no level of utter, catastrophic, embarrassing, deadly failure that can get through to anyone.

    • Tesla Begins Testing Full Self-Driving On Chinese Roadways Ahead Of Rollout (ZH)

    Well, he didn’t promise they wouldn’t kill everyone. He has that now. Imagine the scene: Tesla autonomous cars cruising all China tirelessly looking for fire trucks to ram into.

    “CBS, ABC, NBC, and other media outlets would be running 24/7 specials about the horrific situation..”

    No they wouldn’t: CNN is the BUYER of all these children. We saw that with the last two or three execs that got canned.

    ““Many of them are dead,” Trump sadly revealed. “

    This is the mike-dropping quote where the interview should just stop. It doesn’t. Literally no one cares. Didn’t care – adults didn’t care – once since the first kid on the first milk carton. They still don’t care now. It has zero meaning to them, it’s a political point, Oh! Sick Burn! Safety of children, of ANYONE, anywhere, has zero meaning, zero priority. To anyone, even those living there, like in the bad part of town, they are ALSO Deacons of the Death Cult, not lifting a finger, nor if they did would any neighbor act and join in.

    No? Okay then, explain every public school from coast to coast. Not just the bad ones – that’s obvious – but where is the best location for professional training on drug use, sales, child prostitution, porn, and OnlyFans, is your local school starting grade 6? …But only when they can get enough time away from sleeping with the teachers, which happens regularly in every country and Zero Meaning, Zero Priority, Zero response.

    When parents passively back away and put them in private or parochial schools, they go nuts. How DARE they keep their kids from being exposed to the largest local drug dealer all day? That’s abuse. Coach Happy-Hands will be most displeased.

    So in this interview. It’s not “brown people”. Americans don’t care about 85,000 of their own children killed, probably in the most horrifying possible way. Means nothing to them. Political points. That’s not Trump’s statements, that’s OUR, the interviewer’s visible response to it. When he says this — as he just did — WE don’t go nuts. Like we should.

    “BREAKING: Kansas Attorney General sues Pfizer for “misleading Kansans on COVID vaccine.”

    They actually had a better argument: THEY’RE NOT VACCINES. Therefore they are not protected by law concerning vaccine injury.

    Nobody knew they were going to sing except the pre-staged camera crews. Sorry. Seen and the unseen.

    #161420
    tboc
    Participant

    Mathematical prediction within which every factor is a variable is sooth saying with a degree.
    Also known as gaming.
    Each time you read or hear something Stoltenberg has said you are being exposed to mathematical prediction.
    hopefully this gives some sense of reality to delusions
    the possibility of a future is being decided by games, the probalility a variable – sapiens sapiens

    if a frog had wings…..

    #161422
    zerosum
    Participant

    You
    Assistance, interference, lies, secrets, in Ukraine

    Copilot Using the web

    Certainly! Let’s delve into these concepts in the context of Ukraine:

    Assistance:
    Humanitarian Aid: Countries often provide assistance during crises, such as natural disasters or conflicts. This includes medical supplies, food, and shelter.
    Economic Support: Offering financial aid, trade agreements, or investment to promote stability and development.
    Technical Assistance: Sharing expertise in areas like governance, infrastructure, or healthcare.
    Interference:
    Covert Actions: When foreign entities manipulate or influence another country’s internal affairs for their benefit.
    Disinformation Campaigns: Spreading false narratives or propaganda to shape public opinion.
    Undermining Sovereignty: Actions that violate a nation’s independence or territorial integrity.
    Lies and Secrets:
    Disinformation: False information intentionally spread to deceive or confuse.
    Secret Diplomacy: Behind-the-scenes negotiations or agreements not publicly disclosed.
    Transparency Challenges: Balancing national security with openness.
    Ukraine has faced a complex mix of assistance, interference, lies, and secrets. Navigating these dynamics requires vigilance and diplomacy.

    (Its not called interference when we do it.)

    If you’d like more details, feel free to ask!

    You
    more details, Freeland’s involment

    Copilot Using the web
    Certainly! Chrystia Freeland, Canada’s Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister, has been actively involved in supporting Ukraine. Here are some key points regarding her role:

    Aid to Ukraine:
    Freeland emphasized Canada’s commitment to Ukraine during its conflict with Russia.
    In March, Canada provided $2 billion in urgent budget financing support to Ukraine when the United States was unable to step up and offer similar aid1.
    This financial assistance played a crucial role in supporting Ukraine’s defense efforts.
    NATO’s Strength:
    Freeland highlighted that Canada’s commitment to Ukraine contributes to NATO’s strength.
    While Canada faces pressure to meet NATO’s military spending target (two percent of GDP), its per capita commitments to Ukraine remain significant1.
    Training and Support:
    Beyond financial aid, Canada has been “there” for Ukraine by training troops and supporting the country’s efforts to repel Russian forces2.
    Freeland’s involvement underscores Canada’s commitment to resisting Russian aggression.

    In summary, Freeland’s actions demonstrate Canada’s active role in assisting Ukraine during a critical time. If you have further questions, feel free to ask!

    (Its not called interference when we do it.)

    Learn more

    1 cbc.ca
    2 msn.com
    3 kyivpost.com
    4 canada.ca

    influence of Ukraine’s diaspora in Ukkraine

    Copilot Using the web
    The Ukrainian diaspora has played a significant role in shaping Ukraine’s history and development.
    Let’s explore their influence:

    Historical Context:
    The Ukrainian diaspora refers to Ukrainians and their descendants living outside Ukraine who maintain a connection to their ancestral homeland and a strong sense of Ukrainian national identity.
    These diaspora communities have historically championed national independence and preserved elements of Ukrainian identity and narratives1.
    Support for Independence:
    During Ukraine’s struggle for independence in 1991, members of the diaspora played a crucial role.
    They helped establish the first democratic institutions in newly independent Ukraine, contributing to its nation-building process2.
    Positive International Image:
    The diaspora continues to promote information about Ukraine through media, literature, art, and advocacy.
    Their efforts contribute to creating a positive international image for the country3.
    Russia’s Perception:
    Russia has historically viewed the Ukrainian diaspora with hostility.
    In the post-World War II era, the diaspora’s anti-Communist stance and support for national independence made them thorns in the side of the Soviets.
    Russia’s current attacks portray both Ukraine and its diaspora as “neo-Nazis,” drawing on memory politics from World War II and contested historical links1.

    In summary, the Ukrainian diaspora’s influence extends beyond borders, shaping narratives, supporting independence, and fostering awareness about Ukraine.
    (Its not called interference when we do it.)

    If you have more questions, feel free to ask! 123

    Learn more

    1 theconversation.com
    2 brighterworld.mcmaster.ca
    3 journals.oa.edu.ua
    4 osce.org
    5 en.wikipedia.org
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    #161423
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Kunstler misses the fact that NATO is supposed to lose. It was written into the script, before it even began. Like the hordes overrunning the borders, infastructures destroyed, farms bought, wilderness burnt and money turning to shit. Almost done raping and pillaging the West, time to destroy it, hide the evidence. As soon as they started shipping manufacturing East, people should have woken up. Now they are being murdered, literally, and they still cannot comprehend what the TV won’t tell them.

    #161424
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Kunstler misses the fact that NATO is supposed to lose. It was written into the script, before it even began. Like the hordes overrunning the borders, infastructures destroyed, farms bought, wilderness burnt and money turning to shit. Almost done raping and pillaging the West, time to destroy it, hide the evidence. As soon as they started shipping manufacturing East, people should have woken up. Now they are being murdered, literally, and they still cannot comprehend what the TV won’t tell them.

    #161425
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Kunstler misses the fact that NATO is supposed to lose. It was written into the script, before it even began. Like the hordes overrunning the borders, infastructures destroyed, farms bought, wilderness burnt and money turning to shit. Almost done raping and pillaging the West, time to destroy it, hide the evidence. As soon as they started shipping manufacturing East, people should have woken up. Now they are being murdered, literally, and they still cannot comprehend what the TV won’t tell them.

    #161426
    zerosum
    Participant

    After Russia wins
    Russia will hold the eastern Ukraine provinces and what’s left in the rest of Ukraine will be a failed state drained of men under sixty able to work at anything, bankrupt, broken.
    It will take a century, if ever, for Ukraine to recover from all that and the West will have gained nothing.
    ———–
    Meanwhile, goodbye industrial economy! Nice knowing you. Looks like it’s back to the fourteenth century, living on rough black bread, sleeping with the cattle under your house for heat in winter, fighting jihadis inside your town walls. . . .
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    Why
    the West held a fake peace conference
    to cover up the imminent implosion of the US / Euroland debt debacle?
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    #161427

    From global research.
    Bibi’s analyst kills himself.

    #161428

    Too weird. Hard to believe the psychiatrist’s comments escaped his “suicide”.

    #161429
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Electric Krazy Kar Scam

    Your tax dollars digging deeper

    .

    #161430
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Youthful Fashion trends are Eternal

    The current crop

    .

    #161431
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Dr Jill media whore’n

    .

    #161432
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Amen Bro

    .

    #161433
    zerosum
    Participant

    RIM/TAE searches the web for information/opinions.

    To help.
    To save time,
    To contribute.
    (I cannot rely on just my memory or my opinion.)
    I used Copilot to use/search what the web is saying and to give references of who/where it got the information.

    #161434
    tboc
    Participant

    just to outline the depth of The BS being spread in the Space X mystique of chemical rockets.

    Earth to:
    Moon – 365,000 Km – 3 days
    Mars – 225 Million Km – 200 days
    Asteroid Belt (averaged) 553 Million Km :
    Not bad as travel times go. At these speed, a spacecraft could make the trip to the Asteroid Belt, spend several weeks conducting research (or extracting ore), and then make it home in just over six months time. However, one has to take into account that in all these cases, the mission teams did not decelerate the probes to make a rendezvous with any asteroids.

    or take any mining equipment

    Ergo, a mission to the Asteroid Belt would take longer as the craft would have to slow down to achieve orbital velocity. And they would also need some powerful engines of their own in order to make the trip home. This would drastically alter the size and weight of the spacecraft, which would inevitably mean it would be bigger, slower and a heck of a lot more expensive than anything we’ve sent so far.

    Another possibility would be to use ionic propulsion (which is much more fuel efficient) and pick up a gravity assist by conducting a flyby of Mars – which is precisely what the Dawn mission did. However, even with a boost from Mars’ gravity, the Dawn mission still took over three years to reach the asteroid Vesta – launching on Sept. 27th, 2007, and arriving on July 16th, 2011, (a total of 3 years, 9 months, and 19 days). Not exactly good turnaround!

    and no deceleration at either end of travel

    Falcon Heavy payload to Mars – 16,800kg
    Volvo A60H – Articulated Hauler – 55,000kg

    how many borrowed from the future dollars are spent just in advertising Space X?
    how many borrowed from the futures dollars are being spent in Ukraine?
    how many borrowed dollars from the future are being spent in Palestine?

    gonna need a neural implant to understand how the optimus platform will be worth $25 trillion.
    if anyone can sell that BS Musk is THE MAN!
    Chemical Rockets, man that guy is good.

    to paraphrase Van Morrison – and they steal your future with a smile and it don’t take a gun

    gonna need a neural implant to understand the optimus platform is worth $25 trillion

    #161435
    tboc
    Participant

    barefoot children mining cobalt, no reference to Congo

    #161436
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Imagine, if you will, (and it will take an iron will to muster that much will) a life in which the only joys that can be felt are the pale and passing passions that only flesh can feel. That life, if one can even claim such crushed and narrow view to be a life at all, is all that demons and their minions ever know. Imagine if you will endless despair as the greatest hope and highest aspiration, upon which all efforts and intention must be trained lest even that be lost. Do not be lured to hatred by their fouled souls and fouler deeds, but pity so profound that even contemplation of it makes God hang his head and weep.

    D Benton Smith – I appreciated this comment yesterday quite a bit and wondered if it was a quote from anywhere. Threw the whole thing into Google and search results were 5 different Shakespeare plays, a couple references to Nobel prizes in literature, one Byron, a few other famous works of literature.

    If they’re your own words, Google seems to think they belong in good company.

    #161437
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240618/russia-north-korea-to-sign-strategic-partnership-agreement—decree-1119007150.html#:~:text=Russia%2C%20North%20Korea%20to%20Sign%20Strategic%20Partnership%20Agreement

    The new treaty will replace agreements previously signed by Moscow and Pyongyang, such as the Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Assistance (1961), Treaty of Friendship, Good-Neighborliness, and Cooperation signed in 2000, and the Moscow and Pyongyang Declarations of 2000 and 2001.
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    #161438
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @my parents said know.

    Goddam…if it’s to be believed!!!

    What we’re asked to believe IS:

    1. The chief Jew Psychiatrist par excellence, extraordinaire who should be able to take it, IN FACT, COULDN’T take it at all

    2. The Chief Jew of all Israel gave the Psychiatrist Par Excellence more than he could take.

    What hope do the rest of us have (and that includes all of us unarmed with the armament arrayed in the psyche of the Psychiatrist Par Excellence) against the The Spellbinder and The Grand Bamboozler Benjie Netanyahu??

    If the Global Research’s article is authentic.

      Moshe Yatom, a prominent Israeli psychiatrist who successfully cured the most extreme forms of mental illness throughout a distinguished career, was found dead at his home in Tel Aviv yesterday from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. A suicide note at his side explained that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has been his patient for the last nine years, had “sucked the life right out of me.”

      “I can’t take it anymore,” wrote Yatom.

      “Robbery is redemption, apartheid is freedom, peace activists are terrorists, murder is self-defense, piracy is legality, Palestinians are Jordanians, annexation is liberation, there’s no end to his contradictions. Freud promised rationality would reign in the instinctual passions, but he never met Bibi Netanyahu. This guy would say Gandhi invented brass knuckles.”

      Psychiatrists are familiar with the human tendency to massage the truth to avoid confronting emotionally troubling material, but Yatom was apparently stunned at what he called the “waterfall of lies” gushing from his most illustrious patient. His personal diary details the steady disintegration of his once invincible personality under the barrage of self-serving rationalizations put forth by Netanyahu.

      “I’m completely shocked,” said neighbor Yossi Bechor, whose family regularly vacationed with Yatom’s family. “Moshe was the epitome of the fully-integrated personality and had cured dozens of schizophrenics before beginning work on Bibi. There was no outward indication that his case was any different from the others.”

      But it was. Yatom grew increasingly depressed at his complete lack of progress in getting the Prime Minister to acknowledge reality, and he eventually suffered a series of strokes when attempting to grasp Netanyahu’s thinking, which he characterized in one diary entry as “a black hole of self-contradiction

    I’d like a crack at Netanyahu.
    He wouldn’t be the problem
    His acolytes and his bamboozled devotees ARE the real stupid-assed, weak-assed trouble.
    For instance, curing schizophrenia? That’s ripe.
    Conflating psychosis with psychopathy IS riper.

    #161439
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @tboc

    The term, “The Observable Universe”, does not mean what you think it does.

    Yeah, you’re absolutely right about that, and it was when I finally came to understand the fact a little better that I realized I rally needed to do some more work on my observational and thinking skills. I’m still working at it, and it’s worth the effort.

    Take home lesson: Don’t just assume without earnest personal inspection that you know what the term, “the observable Universe” means. You should take a closer look. And when you DO observe it and think about it more directly then your notion of what constitutes “the observable Universe” is definitely going to change. By a lot.

    #161440
    jb-hb
    Participant

    “Robbery is redemption, apartheid is freedom, peace activists are terrorists, murder is self-defense, piracy is legality, Palestinians are Jordanians, annexation is liberation, there’s no end to his contradictions. Freud promised rationality would reign in the instinctual passions, but he never met Bibi Netanyahu. This guy would say Gandhi invented brass knuckles.”

    A host of nations over thousands of years would understand that Netanyahu is not doing a host of fever-dream sick nonsense, but is doing one simple thing explainable with one perhaps two sentences.

    Any Assyrian, Hittite, Babylonian, Elamite, Median, Greek, Roman, Carthaginian… the list would go on and on if I tried to be complete. Any of them, after getting a synopsis of what Netanyahoo is doing, would look at the above quote like the person saying it grew 2 heads. wtf r u retarded, bro?

    This presumably NY Times reading Jewish psychiatrist has to have this whole complex web of stuff. Is it that he KNOWS the simple thing that is happening but cannot speak it or refuses to know?

    Does he implicitly agree with that thing, cannot argue with it because he implicitly believes it is inarguable not up for debate, but thinks he can argue for post-enlightenment left liberal modernity AND implicitly accept this other thing continually through his silence? Thus the suicide? Or did he just know too much and “suicide”?

    No Assyrian or Hittite would be baffled or dismayed for even a nanosecond.

    #161441
    jb-hb
    Participant

    If you happen to be cleaning out your garage, doing yardwork, or what have you, you could do worse than a Dan Carlin podcast to keep you company (Illustrates my point about unsurprised Hittites..)

    #161442
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The presumption of sanity in another is an error. The only thing that one can or should presume about another is that they exist in the same Universe as does one’s self, and are therefore subject to all of the same conditions, limitations and worth as you.. That means the other person might be either a saint or an evil monster or something in between, and that you will not know until you interact with them, observe what is there to observe, and only then decide who or what it is that you are interacting with.

    Benjamin Netanyahu’s psychiatrist could not observe the patently observable. I know this for a fact because if he HAD observed the patently observable, then he would have used that knowledge to act in a way quite different than killing himself. He would instead have killed Benjamin Netanyahu.

    #161443
    jb-hb
    Participant

    CVN-9/Eisenhower has a facebook page

    https://www.facebook.com/TheCVN69/

    Pictures from a recent event regarding a new carrier strike group commander arriving. Yesterday if I am reading that correctly.

    It suggests that there is a carrier still floating. Eh, who is managing the facebook account and from where?

    Welcome to Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 2!

    The flagship of CSG-2 is the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69). Other units assigned include nine squadrons from Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 3; Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Philippine Sea (CG 58); and Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Laboon (DDG 58), USS Gravely (DDG 107), and USS Porter (DDG 78) from Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) 22

    I keep reading elsewhere about 1 cruiser and a couple destroyers being in the group and then the cruiser and a destroyer leaving. What IS in this carrier group at this point?

    But anyway they just changed who is in charge of Ike’s entire carrier group CSG2 Like in the last 24 hours

    U.S. aircraft carrier captain playfully counters Houthi’s false online claims of hitting his ship June 17, 2024
    https://www.thestar.com/news/world/u-s-aircraft-carrier-captain-playfully-counters-houthis-false-online-claims-of-hitting-his-ship/article_79281354-4f80-5fcd-93e9-34717d7ec685.html

    The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower may be one of the oldest aircraft carriers in the U.S. Navy, but it’s still fighting — despite repeated false claims by Yemen’s Houthi rebels.

    The Eisenhower’s leader, Capt. Christopher “Chowdah” Hill, is creatively striking back on social media to counter the misinformation

    The visit by two AP journalists and others to the Eisenhower represents part of the effort the Navy has made to try to counter the Houthi claims. While on board for about a day and a half, journalists escorted by sailors crisscrossed the nuclear-powered ship’s 1,092-foot (332-meter) length. AP journalists also repeatedly circled the Eisenhower from the air in a Seahawk helicopter… …Its flight deck bore no blast damage or gaping holes, just the stink of jet fuel, pooled puddles of oily water and the scream of engines before its F/A-18 fighter jets took flight.

    After one false Houthi claim, Hill responded by posting images of cinnamon rolls and muffins in the bakery on board the Eisenhower — a subtle jab at the claims.

    Then there’s the “Star Wars” memes and images of Captain Demo, the Labrador-golden retriever mix who roams the ship as a support animal for sailors. And as far as the Houthi forces watching his postings, Hill takes special pleasure in writing about “Taco Tuesday” on the ship.

    “We’re going to celebrate ‘Taco Tuesdays’ because it’s my absolute favorite day of the week. That will never end,” the captain said. “If you call that an information warfare campaign, you can. It’s just who I am, you know, at the end of the day.”

    June 17 video footage of carrier operations https://www.nbcnews.com/video/video-shows-uss-dwight-d-eisenhower-on-duty-in-red-sea-213106245801

    US warship Houthis claimed to have sunk several times does ‘Taco Tuesdays’
    https://www.euronews.com/2024/06/17/us-warship-houthis-said-they-sunk-several-times-does-taco-tuesdays

    It’s interesting I’ve found a few articles that touch on the same details, apparently in the same order even, but maybe that’s just a millenial or AI paraphrasing the AP wire so they can get it done and leave early for the day.

    #161444
    tboc
    Participant

    DBS the day i realized Mr. Feinman wasn’t joking opened the gate to a process started seven years earlier. When observation moves to measurement is where the magic is done.

    just for a moment we will assume there is a hundred tons of mined asteroid in a geosychronous orbit.
    Golf clap!
    The supply chain is going to be interesting. A reusable Falcon 9 returns itself and the payload fairing. Time to reheat the nano cable space elevator.

    the concern for limited natural resources was a point of discussion the other day. Soooo. Let’s expend limited natural resources to capture replacment resources at astronomical cost.
    Why does anyone believe whover is in charge has the capacity to plan anything?

    Meet George Jetson
    his boy (Elroy) Elon…

    #161445
    tboc
    Participant

    one day i will automatically spell the name Feynman

    #161447
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Liars are diagnosed and classified as liars by virtue of the fact that they lied. We are all liars to greater or lesser extent.

    Those who can be persuaded to not lie can be gradually cured, as an ongoing process that typically takes just forever.

    Those who remain unpersuaded unfortunately remain liars, and therefore they must not be presumptively trusted until proven trustworthy. In dealing with them care must be taken to separate their words and deeds into two importantly different categories, namely the categories of “Truthful” and “Deceitful”.

    Those who lie about their own lying cannot be cured, for so long as (and to the extent that) they continue lying about the lies they are telling (or enacting). They will remain liars until persuaded to stop lying about that lying. This is notoriously difficult to accomplish because only the liar himself can decide to tell the truth or not, and only of their own free will. Furthermore the ONLY thing that cures a lie is the pertinent Truth which corrects it, and truths are also notoriously hard to come by, especially for liars.

    The crux of the problem is that “the observable Universe” is observable only to those who are both willing and able to observe it. Those observations are only of service when they are true. This level of courage, integrity and awareness is even rarer than truth and honesty. Luckily it is a gradient scale sort of thing and you don’t have to accomplish all of it all at once. You can do it a step at a time, one corrective truth after another, step-by-step. It’s difficult and it takes a long time. The compass for that long journey is truth. Go towards the truth. Go away from lies. You go TOWARDS one by going AWAY from the other, so be sure to peep it straight which one is which and don’t compromise, ever.

    Be advised. There are liars who lie about lying so adamantly and well that they they have practically turned that devotion into a religion. In some cases, they have LITERALLY turned it into a religion, in fact SEVERAL religions, going by different names. The distinguishing characteristic of all of them is that believe it to be virtuous to deceive. To such persons the greater the deceit then the more virtuous is the deceiver. Yes, that just happens to be, well, Satanic. Precisely my point.

    There have been several books on this interesting phenomenal fact . One of my my favorite is the one about the horrendous rabbi Sabbatai Zevi, declared himself the Messiah in 1666, and founded rabbinical Judaism at that time on the premise of “redemption through sin.” Roughly half of the world’s Jews went along with him, but the exact number is impossible to discern or calculate because a KEY PART of that “be good by practicing evil” new religion was the idea that it was GOOD to LIE about the fact of practicing evil as a deliberate form of worship.

    And by the way, Zevi reckoned that since he was the Messiah of this religion that it was perfectly okay to steal the name and call it Judaism. They aren’t the only ones doing this sort of lunatic stuff, of course, but they certainly are among the more organized. That’s why “Jewish” surnames are so common in the hierarchy of organized criminal activities like corporations, institutions and governments. Essentially, ALL habitual devotion to crime is the dramatization of this serious mental/spiritual malady. Like the old joke says, “You don’t HAVE to be Jewish, but helps.”

    You see the problem with that, without further elaboration, right?

    How do we now tell the difference between the Jews who believe Zevi was the Messiah, and the ones who know he was a Satanically inclined, psycho/socio-pathic, con man and crackpot. The tragic outcome of the relationship between “Jewish” Benjamin Netanyahu (monster) and his “Jewish” shrink Moshe Yatom (not-a-monster) is a near perfect illustration of the problem, and why it has become such a BIG problem, and one that must be addressed.

    Anyone interested (and really, folks, EVERYBODY should be interested!) in this important topic can get the book “1666, Redemption Through Sin”, by Robert Sepehr. It’s a quick read, even if it isn’t a quick fix. There IS NO quick fix. There is only TRUTH, and that’s going to take a little more time.

    #161448
    morongobill
    Participant

    I have never been to an opera in my life but that fantastic performance in the cafe by Jonathan Tetelman has me raring to go to one. Magnificent!

    #161449
    WES
    Participant

    I once went to that world famous opera theatre in Moscow.
    After suffering for about 5 to 10 minutes, I quickly left!
    It cured me of any desire for opera!

    #161454
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    OK, gotta be a bit of a crank here: Why the phuq would you mine shit in space, then bring it back here?

    Ion drive is suitable for small payloads and/or when you really really don’t have to be there overnight.

    #161455
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Dr D Rich said

    Goddam…if it’s to be believed!!!

    It’s about putting the blame onto one person, pretending that he was the reason the Israelis supported the genocide of Palestinians. It was none of their fault, he was mentally ill, he conned them, just like he drove his psychiatrist mad. All bullshit, why would you believe anything that comes out of Israel?

    But I did like the bit about him having a stroke because Netanyahu said something incomprehensible to him. Nice touch. I wonder whether he ever met Netanyahu.

    #161456
    John Day
    Participant

    New Eisenhower Captain “Chowdah” convinces me completely that Ike is Okey-Dokey (quality disinfo?):
    “I came to a revelation at some point in my career that, one of the things that all humans require is to be loved and valued,” Hill said. “So I shouldn’t be afraid, as a leader, to try to love and value everybody, and also to expect other leaders that I’m responsible for to love and value their sailors.” (“Nothing unmanly”, of course.)

    Netnyahu’s shrink with “apparent suicide from self inflicted gunshot wound” and suicide note damning Bibi, which is appropriate, of course, might be an “Arkancide” by the anti-Bibi consortium, also.

    High stakes and bad neighborhood, ya-know?

    #161457
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #161458
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks for the heads-up about 1666, Redemption Through Sin, DBS

    Product Information
    Most people have heard of Jesus Christ, considered the Messiah by Christians, and who lived 2000 years ago. But very few have ever heard of Sabbatai Zevi, who declared himself the Messiah in 1666. By proclaiming redemption was available through acts of sin, he amassed a following of over one million passionate believers, about half the world’s Jewish population during the 17th century.Although many Rabbis at the time considered him a heretic, his fame extended far and wide. Sabbatai’s adherents planned to abolish many ritualistic observances, because, according to the Talmud, holy obligations would no longer apply in the Messianic time. Fasting days became days of feasting and rejoicing. Sabbateans encouraged and practiced sexual promiscuity, adultery, incest and religious orgies.After Sabbati Zevi’s death in 1676, his Kabbalist successor, Jacob Frank, expanded upon and continued his occult philosophy. Frankism, a religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries, centered on his leadership, and his claim to be the reincarnation of the Messiah Sabbatai Zevi. He, like Zevi, would perform “strange acts” that violated traditional religious taboos, such as eating fats forbidden by Jewish dietary laws, ritual sacrifice, and promoting orgies and sexual immorality. He often slept with his followers, as well as his own daughter, while preaching a doctrine that the best way to imitate God was to cross every boundary, transgress every taboo, and mix the sacred with the profane. Hebrew University of Jerusalem Professor Gershom Scholem called Jacob Frank, “one of the most frightening phenomena in the whole of Jewish history”.Jacob Frank would eventually enter into an alliance formed by Adam Weishaupt and Meyer Amshel Rothschild called the Order of the Illuminati. The objectives of this organization was to undermine the world’s religions and power structures, in an effort to usher in a utopian era of global communism, which they would covertly rule by their hidden hand: the New World Order. Using secret societies, such as the Freemasons, their agenda has played itself out over the centuries, staying true to the script. The Illuminati handle opposition by a near total control of the world’s media, academic opinion leaders, politicians and financiers. Still considered nothing more than theory to many, more and more people wake up each day to the possibility that this is not just a theory, but a terrifying Satanic conspiracy.

    #161459
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Putin arrives in Pyongyang – Epically greeted by Kim Jong-Un himself

    It’s a Big Deal

    #161460
    John Day
    Participant

    Those 3 stories resonate well, somehow.
    Weird…

    #161461
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I’ve been maintaining for years the Western world’s got SATANIC problem.

    Oh well, too late now to do anything about it

    Duh’sheeple love it however so no foul.

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    #161462
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Satan’s Dog

    Name it contest

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