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    Arnold Böcklin Mermaids at play 1886   • Supreme Court Overturns Roe V. Wade (ZH) • What Progressives Get Wrong About Overturning Roe (Turley) •
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 25 2022]

    #110336
    V. Arnold
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    Arnold Böcklin Mermaids at play 1886

    Holy crap, wait! I want to jump in and play too………….

    #110337
    Germ
    Participant

    Naomi Wolf –

    #110338
    Germ
    Participant

    “In the largest worldwide study on unvaccinated children and teens, researchers found those who had been previously infected with COVID had a natural immunity between 80% and 89% for 18 months.”

    https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-710289

    #110339
    Germ
    Participant

    Molecular biologist, physician cardiologist –

    #110340
    Germ
    Participant

    “AstraZeneca: Vaccine death payout of £120k ‘inadequate’ ”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-61885899

    #110341
    Germ
    Participant

    “..immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals..

    ”https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-022-01831-0

    LOWER !! 🤡☠️☠️☠️🤡

    #110342
    Germ
    Participant
    #110343
    Germ
    Participant

    How a nation commits collective suicide!
    Democide.
    Sad!

    “Israel contemplating fifth COVID vaccine as number of infections rises”

    Israel contemplating fifth COVID vaccine as number of infections rises

    #110344
    Germ
    Participant
    #110345
    Germ
    Participant

    “Father-of-two, 58, ‘left paralysed’ by first AstraZeneca Covid jab must use wheelchair and walking frame after 420 days in hospital”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10945517/Stoke-grandfather-58-paralysed-Covd-19-jab.html

    🤡☠️☠️☠️🤡

    #110346

    My (deceased) brother Doug pulled that precise “Calvin” when he was six, landing our grandparents’ car over the edge of a small hill and almost into the lake.

    #110347
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Brace for a “Mostly Peaceful” “Night of Rage”. By the truly dangerous people: the Far-Right who are out in the street for being too happy about all the black lives that were saved.

    The Left loves people, diversity, and tolerance, which is why they’re going to burn down the city, especially the black parts.

    You can’t make this up.

    “Kavanaugh Burns Down His Home Just to Get It Over With” –BBee

    “EU & NATO Appear to Be Forming a Bloc for War Against Russia: Lavrov”

    We are in WWIII. This is with US, the West, against Russia, and one of us must collapse. So…we’re admitting it, but we’re going to admit it when? Schrodinger’s War. What happens when they’re all liars who can’t be straight with themselves.

    “Ukraine Retreats from Severodonetsk” “sheer unevenness” of the battlefield given Russia’s “overwhelming hardware” advantage.”

    Yes, and we have enough artillery for 1 week of exchanges in Ukraine, and we ain’t building any factories. So the EU and NATO are going to signal until Russia surrenders. Hit them with the Bat Signal! Yell “Stop!” …or I’ll yell “Stop” again! Clearly these guys needed to be stuffed in more lockers. Saying the word “Punch” and punching someone are not the same things.

    But then I realized: To them, words ARE violence. Violence is not violence, but words are. Ergo, all you need to fight a war is a big fat mouth. A 1 gallon head in a 10 gallon hat. That’s because they don’t exist in a body, but in an ego. They’re not full human beings, but just minds in a jar, cut off from life.

    Well, they’re certainly hurling the full supply of adjectives at Putin. But so far, he seems to be able to withstand their taunts a second time. …Without even noticing they exist. Since he speaks Russian but they’re too dumb to notice. Note to self: I don’t think he gets his news from BuzzFeed and WaPo.

    PewPew

    On the sevens, the magic dates, 6.21-22 is the old calendar solstice. Accidentally the day two major rulings kick off the summer riot ‘n murder season. What are the rulings? Both support States’ Rights as the Center cannot hold, the U.S. devolves to being more regional. Trying to thread the needle by being State and regional enough to work, but not to regional as to break up.

    Anyway, we’re all safe since there’s no such thing as women, there’s no one affected by Roe. Or do we suddenly believe women exist again?

    Since devolving to the states is so terrible that NY must impose their mores on Alabama in defense of Human Rights, then will Mississippi and Texas then need to invade NY and NJ to insure the Human Rights of New Yorkers on gun rights?

    …There’s no thinking going on out there. Sophistry, saying anything to get what you want. My power, my side at all costs, over all people, right or wrong. If not, we could have a debate instead and no need to censorship or violence.

    There was a good one, with Libs of TikTok saying “You think the George Floyd riots were bad, just wait…” Hold on. You mean the “Mostly Peaceful” kumbayah “Summer of Love” (and tolerance, of course)? You can’t say nothing happened, no one was hurt, then turn around and threaten us with this, because, what you’re going to DOUBLE peaceful kumbayah? Oooh, we’re all totally scared you will peacefully protest TWICE as peacefully. No, the statement is admission of violence and violent intent, and deep abiding pride in violence, arson, and murder. …On Black neighborhoods, so billionaires can buy up the arson and do urban renewal at a discount.

    But statements of (many) does not truly represent the position of the whole. I can see that and their humanity even if their sophistry doesn’t.

    “The Supreme Court’s conservative majority overturning decades of abortion rights isn’t just a legal and political matter. It’s also an economic issue.”

    Huh? But they’re NOT selling body parts? Last I knew, more people = more GDP in all economic textbooks. Today it’s less?

    As they added, sounds like Congress will have to do their jobs and pass a law now! (Or an amendment) Horrors! Just like Immigration: Reagan gave full amnesty in 1986 on condition Congress would fix Mexican immigration. 40 years later, every possible supermajority, knees-begging from Trump saying he would sign anything they sent: no law. It’s an election rally cry doncha know? We can’t fix that! It’s more profitable NOT to fix it!

    So like Gun control, everything else: Pass. A. Law. Make. An. Amendment. Like immigration: There. Is. A. Legal. Process. So follow it for once in 100 years. Who knows what might happen if you followed the law instead of making it up randomly every day?

    “[Jefferson/Madison:] You’re gonna need congressional approval and you don’t have the votes

    [Jefferson:] Such a blunder sometimes it makes me wonder why I even bring the thunder

    [Washington:] You wanna pull yourself together?

    [Hamilton:] I’m sorry, these Virginians are birds of a feather

    [Washington:] Young man, I’m from Virginia, so watch your mouth

    [Hamilton:] So we let Congress get held hostage by the South?

    [Washington:] You need the votes

    [Hamilton:] No, we need bold strokes / We need this plan

    [Washington:] No, you need to convince more folks

    [Hamilton:] James Madison won’t talk to me, that’s a nonstarter

    [Washington:] Winning was easy, young man … Governing’s harder

    [Hamilton:] They’re being intransigent

    [Washington:] You have to find a compromise

    [Hamilton:] But they don’t have a plan, they just hate mine!

    [Washington:] Convince them otherwise

    [Hamilton:]And what happens if I don’t get congressional approval?

    [Washington:] I imagine they’ll call for your removal

    [Hamilton:] Sir…!

    [Washington:] Figure it out, Alexander / That’s an order from your commander” –Hamilton

    Are we on Facebook? The expert – one of the experts – on Mass Formation Psychosis says that alienation is key to forcing this event to happen. One of the top causes being breaking the family. The internet is key to creating the social alienation and constant anxiety that the system sells the solution to. (Rage and hate – of my enemies that I sell you). So the internet is a powerful new means to create mental illness. This has been extensively proven in Science and in practice.

    I’m not on, because 1) Time waster 2) Supporting bad people, causes, fortunes, 3) Tracking, since they’re already coming to your house and arresting you for bad thoughts. Thoughts you had 20 years ago when you were 15 and telling jokes to be edgy. 4) Mental Illness, either causing it in myself, or unintentionally in others. Go out and sit under a tree with a book of Zeno and Seneca.

    BioEthics: Killing is Okay! It’s good really!

    This is what I’m talking about.

    “It is the ultimate call of an incrementalist detached from the underlying constitutional interpretation”

    Yes, we know Roberts is entirely disconnected from the Constitution, and therefore all law: he was put in place by Bush because he is against all “Balance of powers” and believes in an unchecked Executive as King and ruler. That’s as far opposite to the Constitution as one can possibly get, and it ain’t “Conservative”.

    ““Imagine that every state were free to choose whether to allow Black people and white people to marry.”

    Then we the People would tell them to go f—k themselves and refuse to obey, follow, or support any of that law, refuse to pay and taxes, and chuck them out, just like everything else. Lord help us! They actually think the Government has power and authority and can tell you what to do. MAKE ME. I just can’t believe the number of ass-kissing boot-lickers there are out there. I mean besides the two being judicially unrelated.

    Anyway, yes to sell Roe they say it will undo all things good and holy in the universe, including stopping the Sunday pancake Special at IHOP. Sophistry: for the love of God can we have an actual discussion without making stuff up like children for two seconds? “I have an invisible force field. No touchbacks!”

    “Biden Claims Abortion Ruling Makes US ‘Outlier Among Developed Nations’ (Fox)”

    It’s not in several ways. One: Europe is MORE restrictive. The U.S. was shopping for at-birth abortions. Also, if you take “Europe” as the EU, then “Europe” ALREADY has varying abortion laws between different states. But somehow Europe didn’t collapse into a wormhole of the space-time continuum. As usual, the U.S. is lying. Every one in it: lying. And as usual, the U.S. starts with something semi-normal, like one inch off the line, then take it over the fiery canyon at 90mph like Thelma and Louise singing “I Don’t Know Why I Go to Extremes” 100% of the time.

    “The west is not the future. That time is behind us.”

    Yes, that is because every word, from every mouth, of every person, in every country, in all the West, is a stupid, careless, unthinking lie. …It’s really hard to run your life that way. To keep your business. It’s what drug addicts discover.

    “ US Gov’t Body Plots to Break Up Russia in Name of ‘Decolonization’ (MP)”

    Yes, but only since before 1940. Only since Stalin took over and stopped the Anglo colonization plan. Before that, and we murdered the Tsar with all his children to steal his gold, we were practically pals!

    Oh, P.S. they want to do the same thing to the U.S. and are pretty far along on Civil War and secession right now. You wouldn’t want nations to be LARGER than the corporations like BlackRock, would you? That’s against the whole plan! You might have representation and accountability then, and we can’t have that. Look at the EU!

    “Divisions are emerging over how much and what kind of military assistance to provide Ukraine”

    None, apparently. Didn’t Germany send some toaster ovens and strudel?

    Prepare for a Tidal Wave of Evictions (ZH)”

    Yes, prepared by giving trillion$$ to BlackRock, then raise rates so housing crashes and there’s a firesale. Ka-Ching! You don’t own America, Uncle Sam, BlackRock is your new ruler now. How many times do we have to do this, for how many centuries, how many books like “Disaster Capitalism” and “Economic Hitman” do we have to read before we stop this? Infinity times, I guess.

    “Austria Set to Retire Vaccine Mandate by End of August (Eugyp)”

    The only reason to take it off is to put it right back on. That’s Torture 101.

    drd

    #110348
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    any of you guys on facebook? The comments are great, ranging from all sex is rape and if you believe in personal responsibility you a fundamentalist christian or belong in Saudi Arabia

    I’m sure their Twitter equivalents all have Ukrainian flags in their bio! 😀

    #110350
    Dr. D
    Participant

    That was this:
    Stats
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWCGgc0WQAEcA39?format=jpg&name=small

    It’s not authoritative, but would give an idea. Most people I know think of Abortion as birth control. The kids commenting on it say they’re going long morning after pills and having their tubes tied: birth control. That no one will consider the choice as being when you chose to sleep together and cause this: birth control. Most of the State laws include exemptions for rape, incest, medical and they’re still furious: birth control. All the people I know, sleep together constantly and carelessly. Golly, friend, what will happen? “Well, if anything happens, she’ll just have an abortion.” Birth control. Not birth control from NOT SEXING someone you don’t love deeply and mean to stay with: that’s ridiculous. Just have an abortion. TV: get in trouble? Have an abortion. Birth Control. And nobody pays for anything.

    Pays? Yes, I can’t tell you how I come about the information, but having an abortion is a VERY SERIOUS thing, very often deeply damaging. Letters from women saying “I feel like I’m going crazy and I don’t know if you can understand, but I’ve never been the same since the abortion. I can’t move on. It’s been months, years.” Over and over and over again. I can’t know what percentage, but what would it matter? 30%? 60%? No one warns you this can happen. No one wants to hear it if you tell them. And there’s no way to reverse it. Blow a hole in your life, forever. Often haunted by your child, seemingly forever. No one cares. Just “Shut up, loser.” Be an unfeeling psychopath like the cool kids. So they do.

    All these things are exactly the warnings given when the Pill and Abortion were legalized. Every one of that long list was realized. And women are more unhappy than ever before, in all statistical records. Since now BOTH men AND women are more unhappy than ever, and specifically over this behavior, is it time to get off the sauce and reverse a little? Not on your life. Never! We need MORE. You can’t tell me what to do. Don’t warn me about what will likely hurt or destroy me, you’re not my daddy. No: we are doing it because we CARE for you. I DON’T want you to blow a hole in your life than can’t be fixed. I DO want to warn you of can happen, and try to fix it if I can.

    Maybe such a thing is necessary. Sometime killing someone is necessary, in self-defense, sometimes we put down dogs, horses, and in a way, people at the end, or in certain conditions. But that doesn’t make it a good, careless, voluntary thing, and it doesn’t mean that death of self-defense, in a courtroom, in dreams at night, don’t have a terrible weight and consequence that is tragic and can’t be erased or undone.

    That’s not what’s happening now in the slightest. 1% for actual causes, 90% voluntary for birth control. Can you really not find a better way? Is sleeping with people you love instead really that much of an oppression?

    The thing makes me sad. Very concerning. And people will attack me for NOT promoting this which I know can have the MOST GRAVE, life-altering consequences on beautiful men and women. And their beautiful children, love of their life, joy of their existence, support in their age, when they took the responsibility and chance.

    #110351
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Pays? Yes, I can’t tell you how I come about the information, but having an abortion is a VERY SERIOUS thing, very often deeply damaging. Letters from women saying “I feel like I’m going crazy and I don’t know if you can understand, but I’ve never been the same since the abortion. I can’t move on. It’s been months, years.” Over and over and over again. I can’t know what percentage, but what would it matter? 30%? 60%? No one warns you this can happen.

    I believe in bodily autonomy strongly enough that I believe it is appropriate that my position is “pro-choice”, but at the same time, I believe that abortion, especially if done for the reason which sits at the bottom of the list you posted, is, generally speaking, a very serious spiritual error. And like all serious spiritual errors, it carries with it serious consequences for one’s own spiritual life. And let us also not forget that the procedure inflicts a certain amount of physical trauma on the body of the woman undergoing the procedure.

    #110352
    Red
    Participant

    This should help!

    Thierry Defresne, CGT rep for Total Engergies staff, told France Info: “We see that a total of 10 billion dollars have been paid to shareholders for the year 2021. So we think that there is indeed an imbalance.

    “In the face of the 2.35 percent that was given to employees at the beginning of the year, if we compare to the 52 percent increase of the CEO, we think that in this story and in the face of the historical record of Total Energies, employees have been forgotten about.”

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20220624/french-fuel-industry-strike-targets-service-stations-and-refineries/

    #110353
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Like a lot of people here who were born and raised in culturally blue areas, my pro-choice position has been made rather less ardent by the fact that a lot of these so-called pro-choicers (the ones who so often have Ukie flags in their Twitter bios) supported the recent Federal attempt to force vaccines on people who don’t want them. And ultimately, it’s probably best that whether or not abortion is legal be left to state governments. Even under Roe v. Wade, many red states made getting an abortion effectively not an option for non-affluent women. And affluent women in red states who want an abortion will still be able to take an airplane ride (at least as long as commercial airplanes are still flying, which might not be for very much longer) to a state such as California, Illinois, or New York.

    #110354
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    @Dr-D

    Most people in the West have been so marinated in generational lies, foisted upon them by rich & powerful sociopaths, that they have violent, irrational reactions to facts, data, rational thought ~ Many are beyond the redemptive powers of Love, Truth, even Life itself.

    This is why the vast majority goosestepped right into the vaccine madness, why they still vote, support & believe in the hopelessly corrupt party systems poisoning their nation, society & families…

    Putin sees it. He’s taking a stand.

    The Supremes see it. Most took a stand this week.

    I appreciate Kunstler’s optimism, but I’m afraid there’s no way to escape the coming Reckoning. It will be tortuously horrid, with the potential to approach an extinction level event, if nuclear weapons begin to fly.

    It is beyond obvious that the Party of Chaos is, more or less, a tribal collection of greedy, hate-filled narcissists that are hellbent on destroying all that is good, decent & moral.

    Justice Thomas wrote, among other things:

    Supreme Court Should Reconsider Rulings on Same-Sex Marriage, Contraception

    Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas wrote Friday that the high court should reconsider rulings on contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage in a solo concurring opinion released Friday that struck down Roe v. Wade.

    The Republican-appointed justice argued that the Supreme Court should reconsider other cases that fall under prior due process precedents.

    “I write separately to emphasize a second, more fundamental reason why there is no abortion guarantee lurking in the Due Process Clause,” Thomas wrote. “Considerable historical evidence indicates that ‘due process of law’ merely required executive and judicial actors to comply with legislative enactments and the common law when depriving a person of life, liberty, or property.”

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/justice-thomas-supreme-court-should-reconsider-rulings-on-same-sex-marriage-contraception_4556071.html

    I actually can’t believe this landmark event came to pass in my lifetime, that the Supreme court would start undoing 50+ years of jurors legislating from the bench…

    I wish Justice Thomas well on his “Hail Mary”, but I don’t think there are any Americans left that could make it to the end zone ~ We the People have been dumbed-down to succumb across the board, to the point where their spirit within has been sidelined in favor of the illusion of “modern” civilization.

    The United States of America was doomed the moment that the 2020 election was stolen…

    The West is in the thralls of mass psychosis, with despicable monsters controlling the mechanisms of power & control.

    But perhaps, just perhaps there is some change underfoot, spiritually led, that will create sane regions where the Loving, Healing, Creative Power of the Infinite can work a miracle. Again.

    Still hoping & praying, but with very little hope,

    Gary

    #110355
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas wrote Friday that the high court should reconsider rulings on contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage

    I still think there’s room in the Ninth Amendment for disallowing laws that attempt to legislate people’s sex lives. Less so for marriage, as that is a public institution in at least some respects. I certainly wouldn’t want to live in a state the presumes to outlaw contraception, which is why I never would have moved to pre-EU Ireland despite the fact that is one of my ancestral homelands (the others being the UK and France).

    #110356
    Oroboros
    Participant

    After the Killshot Vax sterilizes vast portions of the current crop of ‘breeding age’ population, abortion will become more of a moot point.

    After all, the Empire of Lies is going to sterilize vast swaths of it’s infant population with the Vax.

    A large portion of the kids of this entire generation cohort will never be able to conceive anyway and will have crippled immune systems, so abortion debates will not be their top priority.

    Only the unvaxed kids will be able to have children themselves.

    There are already dating servicing popping up that only want to connect unvaxed to unvaxed partners.

    Having been Vaxed will be like you have a permanent STD and no one will ever want to even attempt to breed with you, much less date you.

    The unvaxed will have the Golden DNA.

    Maybe they can sell it to the Vaxed sterilized.

    So getting rid of children will be less of a problem in the near future.

    Speaking of which, I’m still practicing my grumpy old man, “Hey, you kids, get off my lawn!”

    However I’ve been out done by a drunken Ukrainian man who threw a live hand grenade at a bunch of kids outside his house.

    Sweet!

    #110357
    Oroboros
    Participant

    You don’t need abortion laws and vaxes to get rid of children, do it the old fashion way with hand grenades!

    #110358
    zerosum
    Participant

    Our world is in the grip of terminal delusion

    1. Glaring cognitive dissonance
    2. Great ecological damage are cause by wars
    3. The blame game will only get worst.
    4. Ukraine is the latest front in a long-running war for control of diminishing resources by the elites and their servants.
    5. We are being conned yet again

    #110359
    Germ
    Participant

    “After the Killshot Vax sterilizes vast portions of the current crop of ‘breeding age’ population, abortion will become more of a moot point.

    After all, the Empire of Lies is going to sterilize vast swaths of it’s infant population with the Vax.”

    I believe ‘Fast Eddy’ refers to that as the “CEP” – Compassionate Extinction Plan”

    #110360
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Some of us maybe wondering why the stock market had a bit of a rebound this week. Well, I subscribe to Chris Martenson’s “members only” videos on his website, and one thing he revealed recently is that even though the Fed has been saying they are going to reduce their bloated balance-sheet (basically the amount of debt-paper they have bought as an institution), they haven’t done this as indicated by their figures for the first half of the month of June. They are, at best, reducing the rate at which they are expanding their balance-sheet.

    True, the Fed, like the ECB, doesn’t buy stocks directly, but when they buy bonds, it always has a salutary effect on the stock-market. And the valuation of stocks is now so totally dependent on the willingness of these central banks (which also includes the Bank of Japan and the People’s Bank of China) to buy debt-paper, that any significant slackening in these purchases, will result in those red-colored big numbers on websites that monitor the stock-markets! And they just can’t stomach that.

    So our august financial institutions have only one of two choices: Devastating inflation by printing up more money to keep these financial markets propped up, or a devastating deflationary compression by withdrawing that support. And they can be counted on to do the former because that choice hurts rich people less by keeping all that paper-wealth from shrinking, but it hurts the common people more because the money the earn will buy always less and less and less.

    And the vast majority of normies are completely oblivious to the fact that the stock markets have been kept in a hypertrophic state for the past few years by central-bank debt-paper purchases and central-bank debt-paper purchases alone. In fact, the Bank of Japan (possibly also the Swiss central bank, I’m not completely sure about that one) is at least one bank that goes so far as to actually buy stocks directly, and boy-howdy have they been buying those since 2016!

    #110361
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Anyone here follow The Orville?
    Seth McFarlane often uses the shows he creates to comment on what is going on in the world.
    In S3, E4 we see how the Krill (who are compared to the “religious right”) punish parents who choose to abort their child. A simulation is created of the child that would have been, and they are forced to interact with the simulated child. In the same episode, we discover that Captain Mercer’s dalliance with an undercover Krill woman in season 2 has produced a child. The mother did not abort the child, instead giving birth and turning her over to caretakers, and ensuring the half-human girl never meets the public because the child could be catastrophic for the mother’s political career.

    I don’t believe that government should insert itself between a woman and her unborn child.
    I also believe that Roe v. Wade was inappropriate because according to the Constitution, what is not covered by the Constitution should be left to the states. I have no problem with laws differing from state to state, and I recognize that I may not agree with laws that a state may enact.

    It is very important that nations and states be governed by law, and not merely by what any group or individual within the country feels very strongly about. Process matters, not just results. In most cases and situations, the ends do not justify the means…and the ends ultimately follow the means.

    #110362
    zerosum
    Participant

    We will be conned/lied to again.

    When the government told us that the vaccinated couldn’t get #COVID19, was that a lie or a guess?

    The data tell us that people who got “vaccinated” and “boosted” are turning up with broken immune systems that leave them extra-specially open to repeated Covid-19 re-infection, and that each reiteration of the illness breaks down their immune systems even more — which suggests that over time (think: the months ahead) more and more of them are going to die from all kinds of opportunistic viral and bacterial diseases, not to mention cancers, structural damage due to blood clots, heart tissue injury directly from spike proteins, and brain-and-neuro illness, ditto. Do you believe that the authorities somehow missed all this? Are they trying to pretend that they didn’t.
    ———–
    It is “taboo” to talk about your sex life, pro-choice, pro-life, masturbation, death/life choices.
    ———

    #110363
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    It is very important that nations and states be governed by law, and not merely by what any group or individual within the country feels very strongly about. Process matters, not just results. In most cases and situations, the ends do not justify the means…and the ends ultimately follow the means

    Yes.

    The data tell us that people who got “vaccinated” and “boosted” are turning up with broken immune systems that leave them extra-specially open to repeated Covid-19 re-infection, and that each reiteration of the illness breaks down their immune systems even more — which suggests that over time (think: the months ahead) more and more of them are going to die from all kinds of opportunistic viral and bacterial diseases, not to mention cancers, structural damage due to blood clots, heart tissue injury directly from spike proteins, and brain-and-neuro illness, ditto. Do you believe that the authorities somehow missed all this? Are they trying to pretend that they didn’t.

    And yet the entire vaccine narrative is still being officially promoted as if none of this was happening. The Western World has to be the most well-brainwashed population in the history of humanity. I don’t think it was a coincidence that deflationista’s braying, hectoring tone was exactly that of an offended religionist.

    #110364

    Where’s is the left’s consistency on bodily autonomy when it comes to abortion vs “vaccine” mandates?
    Where is the right’s consistency on bodily autonomy when it comes to abortion vs “vaccine” mandates?

    “…and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.” (Alito)
    No. Just no.

    #110365
    zerosum
    Participant

    No answer, only speculation
    Why should I care more than …..?

    Define “better”
    Define “better for who”
    Define “made worst and for who, what, where, when”

    Would our social/economic system have been better without mass vaccination?
    Would our social/economic system have been better without helping/prolonging the war in Ukraine with more guns?

    Is mother earth being helped or harmed?

    #110366
    TAE Summary
    Participant
    #110367
    morongobill
    Participant

    The man who might have been king. Still don’t get why Mark Steyn wasn’t picked to be Rush’s successor.
    He was easily the most popular replacement host when Rush was absent.

    #110368
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @TAE Summary

    Very interesting read, makes me think of spengler.

    #110369
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    unequal [ un·e·qual ] – resulting consequences

    … above is just a fraction of this:

    F.S.

    #110370
    John Day
    Participant

    @TAE Summary: I also read thatimportance-of-sexual-morality article. It is one which gives useful correlation, and seeks to view the process observed with some “objective” distance, but hints at other outlooks, such as spiritual-nature as being worthy of consideration.
    It’s OK, isn’t it?
    There are a lot of different long-waves which could play out this way, coming from different worldviews.

    The loss of ratioanlity as a value is particularly dangerous upon its face isn’t it?

    #110371
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    some things can not be undone

    #110372
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #110373
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    @TAE-Summary

    Thanks for sharing that treatise, it confirms & defines the murderous trends of EGOcentric toxicity that I have observed & experienced.

    It stands to reason that mass formation psychosis would have historical precedents tied to human relationships, sexuality & conservation of energy, with the contravention thereof resulting in the loss of rational thinking & civility, transmogrifying into a whirlwind of CULTural hedonism & megalomania…

    There are cosmic truths, which although written on every living spirit’s soul, have grave repercussions when intentionally ignored, with inevitably severe aftermaths experienced when REBELLION suffuses into healthy social norms, practice, convention.

    America was founded as a Democratic Republic under Natural Law, where EVERYONE was premised with the ability, as equals, to experience life, liberty, or property independently & on their own terms, with the proviso they honor, respect & defend the same for their fellow “citizens”…

    The Powers of .GOV were established PRIMARILY to protect the Natural/Common Rights of the “citizenry”, with their consent, which should have instinctively been extended to ALL living entities within the Infinite’s Creation.

    It was literally no one’s business how you pursued your life, EVERYONE should have the right to self-determination.

    Moreover, America’s sovereign powers were intended to be limited by borders & commerce, with no one (or group) within the Republic judging others, unless their actions harmed the Natural Rights of individuals or the Nation as a whole…

    Lincoln broke the covenant established in blood & brokered into existence by the Sons of Liberty, with FDR following that precedent by becoming America’s Caesar with “Emergency Powers” that have prevailed on an exponential basis to the present.

    The fallout from the Imperial perversion of America’s sovereign rule is destruction of normal, healthy society, with the genders (more or less) in open rebellion against their Creator…

    Males are born into this CULTure, where permanently “batching it” is the norm, feel empowered to rapaciously act, often without consequence for serial violations of Natural Law.

    Females, in turn, have experienced unthinkable exploitation, at each & every turn, without proper preparation, education + a society to protect & enable them to mature into the nurturing, loving, sacred matriarchal center of marriages, family, community…

    The damage inflicted (to self+others) over the last two generations has led to an #Anti-Spiritual, #Anti-Life paradigm where there is No Shame, Anything Goes, where rational thinking has been replaced by emotional frenzy, absolute truth ousted for “feel good” prevarications.

    AS a result, multitudes of females too are “batching it”, too, with dissipated harpies squawking for the perverse “right” to heinously dispose of unborn-children like tampons, effectively to full gestation 😕

    Thus, as is always the historical case, The Reckoning is upon the West, which short of Divine Intervention, is as inevitable as the Earth’s celestial journey through the cosmos.

    The Infinite will not be mocked, the Creator’s Will will be done…

    I too once rebelled against our shared innate reality, until I experienced firsthand the Loving, Healing, Creative Power of the Infinite, which in contrast to my previous state of EGOcentric insanity made me realize that rebellion is nothing but sewerage in the Grand Scheme of the Universe.

    All the best on your journey,

    Gary

    I suppose we can hope, but there is always a tendency to want to believe “it cannot happen to us.” Unwin describes this attitude as a “pardonable egocentricity” and a “quaint and comfortable doctrine”, that flies in the face of data, which indicate that the pattern of decline happens with “monotonous” regularity. That’s another way of saying that “insanity is doing the same thing yet again but expecting different results.” The primary predictions are already unfolding with alarming “alacrity”.

    #110374

    Nothing can be undone.
    In 1960, a woman who had four children from the ages of 5 to 10 used a knitting needle to self-abort her fifth pregnancy. Her neighbor took her to her doctor, who labelled it a miscarriage.
    There have been and always will be abortions. Desperation can can cause a woman to risk making her other children motherless.
    We keep them legal to keep them safe.

    #110375
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    The historical record is near fait accompli 😕

    Hobbes was right.

    Locke was wrong.

    While the practice of The Divine Right of Kings may be lacking in many aspects, Self-Government thus far even more so…

    It also must be said, from historical precedence, that not one (ie -0-) sovereign states have survived a sudden submersion into the predicament of MultiCULTuralism.

    While a gallant effort by the Sons of Liberty, humanity is of yet too unruly, too selfish, still too DUMB to resist the temptation of REBELLION, & thus sadly, yet incapable of Self-Government (IMHO).

    Even monarchical England has been impaired, corrupted & impoverished by parliamentarian, democratic, socialist “reforms”…

    While many might assume that all Enlightenment thinkers supported natural rights and republicanism or democracy, this is not the case. All authors are shaped by the world historical context, and Thomas Hobbes and John Locke are no exception to that rule.

    Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679) was mostly concerned with the problem of social and political order, notably how people can live together peacefully and avoid conflict, seeing humans as innately war-prone and the state of nature one of perpetual discord.

    Hobbes supported the notion of absolute monarchy as providing stability and denounced the right to rebellion. His writings were shaped by the English Civil War, where society was divided religiously, economically, and by region.

    On the other hand, John Locke (1632-1704) offered a different view of human nature and legitimacy in government. In his Two Treatises on Government, Locke rejected divine right to monarchy in favor of a republican or democratic form of government upheld by the people.

    Locke claimed that although in the state of nature people are constantly threatened by harm and war, they willingly come together and renounce some of their own natural rights to a sovereign for the greater good: protection from physical harm, security of possessions, and ability to cooperate in a stable society.

    I wish I could say my life was full living in the arse end of the American experiment, but my soul since childhood has been vexed watching helpless innocent men, women, children ground into dust by the Sociopath Elite & their sycophants, lackeys & toadies 🙄

    And now I grievously lament for young generations that will certainly live through cataclysmic turmoil, possibly involving nuclear holocausts, I try not to even imagine what is to come 😕

    FUTURE GENERATIONS: Beware Pandora’s Box (rebellion)…

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