Debt Rattle May 6 2021
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Edgar Degas Two laundresses 1876 • Senior NHS Board Member: Stop The Genocide Or Our Children Are Next (UKC) • Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonst
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 6 2021]Five Australians suffer blood clots after AstraZeneca jab in one week:
Think the Vaccine Passport is just for Covid? Think again!
” …smart vaccination certificate to support vaccine(s) against COVID-19 and other immunizations.”
” … global vaccine certificate architecture with digital solutions that support the COVID-19 vaccine use case and establish foundational services for other health services.”
https://www.who.int/groups/smart-vaccination-certificate-working-group
This is what will get linked to your Vaccine Passport by bluetooth..
Don’t think for a minute that I won’t.
Here is a different take on the screen shot posted today about the head of Pfizer research and female sterility:
The ex-Pfizer scientist who became an anti-vax heroI realize both pieces have objectives. But I don’t think Mike Yeadon would be the only one sounding an alarm if it were even somewhat likely that the sterilization claim were true. In any case, there needs to be more evidence before it can be taken seriously.
This goes back to my complaint that by bringing in this kind of stuff, it only serves to dilute anything nearby. Not that every piece has to be some gold standard, but then there is the Denninger lawyer guy. He uses the word “bombastic” to describe something, but that is exactly what his writing is all about. It’s a style that makes me feel the guy is yelling in my face, and I would not have a prayer of getting in a word edgewise.
This matters to me, because I am still looking for solid, trustworthy ammunition when friends question my decision not to be vaccinated. There is no way pointing them to TAE will help my cause, between links like the above and some of the posted comments and links.
Obviously TAE does not exist to help me make my case or give me confidence in my decision, and I do not expect that. But being a little more selective might be worthwhile.
Maybe I am just feeling vulnerable after a long phone call with an old friend who I consider smart and thoughtful and shares much of my general view of the state of things. He got very angry about my mild questioning of the policy of vaccinating everyone (I did not even directly say I was not vaccinated). Part of his argument was, they are effective, there is no downside, this is the way the world operates. He gave examples: seatbelts, the need to be vaccinated when going to certain countries, kids required to be vaccinated to attend schools, etc. He has no issue with the concept of a vaccine passport. I think he is in the “morally wrong not to get vaccinated” camp.
I was shocked a bit–not necessarily at his position, but that he was so vehement. He did not really want to hear about the issues that go along with it–security state, removal of free speech–saying that was a different subject.
Again, my hesitancy is not strongly based on a fear that the vaccine is harmful. The reports of problems are often presented in ways that try to magnify the issue and create alarm, the same way covid deaths and younger people dying, etc. are portrayed. It is designed to create maximum fear, or maximum doubt.
Since most of us have experienced this pandemic through our computers and phones, and that is where virtually all of our information comes from, we need to weigh the sources and try to make some kind of assessment for ourselves. There is little connection to reality, with exceptions like John Day, who certainly sees a slice in his practice.
My take so far:
It is a serious illness.
Our response was an over-reaction.
There appear to be medicines that can greatly reduce the severity of the symptoms.
There seems to be an effort to discredit these medicines.
The vaccines appear to keep most people from dying from Covid.
There is confusion as to whether they can help stop the spread.
We do not know the long-term effects of the vaccines, if any. There are reports of adverse reactions, but it is difficult to determine how serious of an issue it is, and does the treatment really do more harm than the disease?
It does not seem like a good idea to require very low risk people such as children to be vaccinated against Covid, due to the treatment vs. disease issue.
It is going to be a problem when you have a mixed population of vaxxed and unvaxxed–mostly a political problem, but tempers are high.
They do not take Paypay in India, so I still do not have Ivermectin on hand. I do take Vitamin D (should I keep taking it even in the summer?) What about combining Ivermectin with Doxy-something, as suggested the other day? Is that also available via Indai?Ivan Illich is one of my favorite thinkers. I have well-worn print editions of Tools for Conviviality and Energy and Equity. I will sometimes google his other papers. On one of these searches a few months ago I came across the blog of theCanadian writer David Cayley, who knew Illich well and was something of an acolyte. I am ordering his book , Ivan Illich: An Intellectual Journey (he could use help with that title).
He wrote a post about the Pandemic in April of 2020 as filtered through Illich: Questions About the Current Pandemic From the Point of View of Ivan Illich
He wrote a follow-up in December, still too early to talk about the vaccine, though I will be interested to read his take on it: Pandemic Revelations
Interesting how yesterday’s Degas was evocative of painters like Pierre Bonnard and Édouard Vuillard, while today’s reminds me more of Paul Gauguin, albeit with a more subdued palette.
One of our commenters responded to something I said in the previous thread by showing me this link from The Atlantic magazine. What I find somewhat disturbing about this article is that our society’s “cool kids” seem to be constructing a mental pseudo-reality in which these vaccines inhibit transmission of the virus, which in fact they do not. Perhaps the author was just rephrasing the “we need to use vaccines to reach herd immunity” argument, but I guess the wording to me sounded as though he is making himself believe that this new and untested style of vaccination stops transmission. I guess every reader of the article will have to judge that for themselves.
absolute galore:
There is no way pointing them to TAE will help my cause, between links like the above and some of the posted comments and links. Obviously TAE does not exist to help me make my case or give me confidence in my decision, and I do not expect that. But being a little more selective might be worthwhile.
Let’s not forget that the MSM is a major part of the vaccine porn business, in cahoots with politics, which is how most people get their “news”. They are very selective, and at the same time not selective at all: they represent just one viewpoint.
Sure, guys like Denninger ruffle some wrong feathers, but if you can’t look past those, you risk losing the valuable points he makes. I can’t tailor the articles here towards (the majority of) people who are fed selected nonsense 24/7.
And anyway, the main stories in today’s Rattle are from respected scientific journals, the American Journal of Therapeutics and the Bulletin Of Atomic Scientists. How much more selective can I be? That these reports contradict the MSM, should speak in their favor for anyone with a working brain.
The issue is not that we know the damage the untested substances will do, or are doing, the issue is that we are witnessing the by far largest medical experiment in the history of mankind, and we have no way of knowing the damage that will be done.
Asking for proof of damage is a completely wrong question in this scenario. We must ask for evidence that no damage is being done.
Drs. Marik and Kory are authors of that ivermectin paper, which is absolutely excellent and broadly inclusive.
Hey Absolute Galore and Raul – I really enjoyed your conversation. I think the points raised are both solid. I admit I am here because I know finding out alternative info to the narrative is hard and Raul’s tireless work saves us precious time, but critical thinking of all the stuff coming at us is so important.
No way I’m getting that jab yet though. I didn’t spend my whole life looking after my health (mostly) to hand it over to lab coats. I’m with Dr. D – sometimes you have to person up and just grow a pair of ovaries and go all Verdana Shiva on Bill Gates’ arse and just resist!
Love you my comrades. All of you here and you have my gratitude deep.
Oh and it’s nice to have 2 shades of Rockstar on the forum Dr. D and Madamski – it’s like red and green or blue and orange or Beer and Wine. Go you good things.Also I frikken love Denninger. A well researched rant is not quite an opinion piece and that is what matters.
Also Western journos got the weird guilts shoved down inside – “I better grab another scotch” moment when Assange was laid before their feet again. I blame central banks for making them pay enormous mortgages because they have to live near the power centres where their masters are and also where all this money funnelled into – stinky pooey asset class housing along way from fly-over zones. They don’t get to talk truth no more or else they got no job. So they write what the boss tells em – something distracting about someone getting offended by their feelings about how they feel about their sexual identity or some other boring power play for little people.
Hey I sound grumpy but I’m not – I think I have been reading from the sidelines too long.@Absolute Galore: Madamski seems pretty subtle in diplomacy, but your entry to the mind of a defensive friend may be hard to find.
One opening may be that Pfizer will apparently release this early treatment pill, which appears to be viral-protease inhibitor, as used for HIV and Hepatitis-C, in the fall.
Pfizer is trying to get everybody “vaccinated” with their current product, but already has the successor in line, after killing hundreds of thousands by suppressing early treatment with (politically murdered) hydroxychloroquine, and (tried to smother in the crib but failed) ivermectin.
That financial angle may be a way in.
Swords are drawn in this societal schism, already.
Try to avoid the beheading reflex. Discuss from a different angle, which will probably have to keep changing weekly.
Do take vitamin-D this summer. It is pretty rare to go a little high, and I have never, ever seen anybody toxic. You can get either “horse paste” ivermectin or the “pig injection” liquid version. Both can safely be taken orally, based on body weight. 1 mg per 11# body weight on days 1, 2, 4 and 6, is how I dose, but some dose days 1-4 and some 1-5. Don’t try to get doxycycline, a tetracycline antibiotic, at this point. That is something that even ER docs have started prescribing whenever they see a chest x-ray that looks like COVID, which is common.
(Thanks for the kind mention.)Executive summary:
Experts do not want any questioning of what they do by the experimental subjects“Asking for proof of damage is a completely wrong question in this scenario. We must ask for evidence that no damage is being done.”
effective, no downside
create maximum fear, maximum doubt
Individuals, will see what they want to see. Hear what they want to hear. Believe what they want to believe. -“Pandemic Monkeys”
Time to make a wish, or to make a prayer.
(Uncontrolled space rockets debris hurling towards earth.
genetic modification technique called CRISPR)I appreciate the way Raul provides us with an array of links that we can decide for ourselves according to our own criteria which are worth paying attention to. And there are quite a few of those links that, after mentally processing the daily selection, quietly and unceremoniously end up on my “trash” pile. My criteria for so consigning them may seem arbitrary and informed by the bias of the blue-state big-city bubble in which I have lived most of my life, but there is so much nonsense floating around out there right now, that I think that it behooves one to thicken one’s filters in deciding what information one finds valid and valuable.
What I am having an increasingly difficult time respecting is “Big Tech” censoring anything they don’t want the rabble to be exposed to. Yes, there is a lot of crazy nonsense being said by fringe people right now, but responding to such people by censoring them has its own backfire handily and sturdily built right into it. And such censorship inevitably develops nakedly ideological motivations, as we saw when the Hunter Biden laptop story was blatantly censored by Twitter. (Hello-o, Barbara Streisand Effect, anybody?)
And as for getting the jab, I really do hope that it won’t be a problem for the vast majority of people who get it because I don’t want to see people getting badly hurt just so I can be “right” in my contrarian and countercultural predispositions. But it really sounds like when these new “vaccines” actually do go bad on somebody, they go very bad. So I’ll pass on the vaccine because there are just some areas where I really don’t like to press my luck. Besides, I like my cellular biology just the way it is, thank you very much, namely mostly not egregiously hurting me.
This article says there is a fair amount of cross reactivity between endemic coronavirus response and vaccine coronavirus response, in BOTH directions, but not the same amount for each endemic coronavirus. In this study the “vaccine” prompted more memory-triggering response to HCoV-NL63.
“Interestingly, we saw a 3-fold increase in the CD4+ T cell responses to HCoV-NL63 spike peptides post-vaccination.”
• mRNA Vaccines Induce Broad CD4+ T Cell Responses (JCI)So we know that 81% of us (I think I’m in there and my school librarian wife, too) have enough T-cell memory to endemic coronaviruses to handle this one on a good day, too.
Take vitamin-D 5000 units. (Notice how that is about the average dose used by signers of the petition Germ posted a couple of days ago?)
The question of whether the “vaccines” might help us with the common-cold coronaviruses is not a very important question, considering “vaccine” side effects. The answer is, “yeah, probably a little help”.
We do not yet know if the antibodies attacking human placental protein syncytin (similar to spike protein in some segments) will cause a lot of spontaneous abortions.
Nobody ever does studies like this on pregnant women, nobody. Never.
There do seem to be a lot of spontaneous abortions, even near-term or at term following “vacines”.
It’s a good thing that it’s nobody’s fault, isn’t it? It’s almost impossible and quite intimidating to report a vaccine adverse response, as we learned yesterday, and as I have experienced, myself.The CDC’s VAERS and Vaccine Complications: The System is Broken
“..the Faucis and Ferrers of the world feasted well on buckets of media love for some 13+ months, and they’re not ready to go back to a diet of irrelevance.”
I think this is a major factor in understanding the phenomenon. Profits and ego.
I would like to clarify that I am not trying to throw sour grapes here. I would not have made my comments if TAE was not an important resource for my understanding of what is going on, and I deeply appreciate Raul’s efforts (and show what I can when I can financially). I just meant to say IATMO*, some things are far enough out there that they might be better left alone, to give what is here all the more weight.
*According To My OpinionSpeaking of weight, I looked up the horse paste. It’s apple flavored! First three comments under reviews of product:
Does exactly what it’s supposed to and more… excellent anti-inflammatory as well *****
Excellent product overall. Doesn’t taste too bad either *****
Great for what Ivermectin is supposed to be for. Just a reminder for all those who are using this paste.. This is 6 grams for a 1250 lb horse. That would be .0048 grams/lb. IF you had a 170lb horse, you would give that stud .816 grams of this paste.*****
Question for John D: Do you think the paste is finely tuned enough to knock down a dose like this, from 6 grams to .816 grams? In other words, are the manufacturing standards for non-prescription animal medicine high enough to be fairly sure the smaller dosage will be equally distributed in this apple-flavored horse paste? (If nothing else, I am going to buy it while I figure out how to get some pills from India without Paypal.)
To add: I find this comment section also very helpful, and I appreciate the range of opinions, some of which I agree with and some not as much. The tone is almost always helpful and convivial, if sometimes a tad alarmist or conspiratorial. I also enjoy the personalities, even the ones that make me roll my eyes sometimes. (I’m sure I induce some ocular rotation in the orbits now and then as well–Miley C., anyone?;^)
Meanwhile in Europe, the latest data on excess mortality, published today for Week 17, shows the total deaths (all reporting countries combined) are below the baseline (no excess) for all the age groups.
However, Israel’s excess deaths are above the baseline for all age groups. There is a spike in deaths for the 15-44 age group, above the “significant increase” level.
John Day wrote: So we know that 81% of us (I think I’m in there and my school librarian wife, too) have enough T-cell memory to endemic coronaviruses to handle this one on a good day, too.
So if I am in the 19%, what then? Obviously not going to just keel over and die (now that would be a pandemic, 20% fatality rate) but I will have a harder time fighting it off, and likely to have more serious symptoms, higher risk of death, long covid? How does this affect my 99.4% chance of not dying as a 60-65 yo male?
And I realized too, with the horse paste math, the dosage for human weight might be different? Or did that reviewer have the correct info? I am 170lbs and I seem to remember calculating that I would just get the 18mg pills, since a bit more is apparently not a problem, and JD upped the dosage in his last report on this.
TAE brings us a daily menu of “Crystal Ball Gazers” for us to evaluate
(a person with unusual powers of foresight · oracle · an authoritative person who divines the future)Sorry for the multiple posts, but I will feel more comfortable with my decision with some Ivermectin in the cupboard.
forgot to link to the horse paste:
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/durvet-ivermectin-paste-187-608-g
The blurb says Treat your animals with this Durvet Ivermectin 1.87% Horse Wormer Paste.
Does that mean it is 1.87% Ivermectin? It also says Primary Ingredient(s) Ivermectin
Obviously there are some apples in there, too.I’m confused how I should calculate my dose. Does .866 grams sound about right? I’m assuming 1 gram would be fine in that case?
absolute galore: “How does this affect my 99.4% chance of not dying as a 60-65 yo male?”
That’s the average “chance of not dying” for somebody in that age group. People with existing T-cell responses against the Covid virus will have an above-average “chance of not dying”, while those without will have a below-average chance.
Without knowing whether you have, or don’t have, an existing T-cell response, you can just consider the average.
@Absolute Galore: By this time I have had a number of people tell me about their experience taking horse paste, giving it to various animals, down to rabbit-size, and finding the taste fairly pleasant.
The weight based dose is the same for humans as for the other animals. 0.2 mg/kg, or 1 mg/11#.
I am told that there is a convenient measuring device that goes by weight.
Instead of one dose, COVID treatment is more like 2-5 doses, in general.
The dosing range for humans, now with a lot of experience, can safely move up, so erring a little to the high side is fine. Just a little. The upper dosing is 0.3 mg/kg, currently, though there is no particular fatal-dose clearly identified.
Also, zinc gluconate 50 mg is readily available. This has efficacy against coronaviruses by itself, an can be taken 3-4 times per day when treating active disease.
I recommend keeping routine daily dose to 25 mg or less, since it can interfere with copper absorption at higher doses.
a male 60-63 is what I am, too.
Get on with life. Our life force is in decline. Do some good.@ John Day & absolute galore (ag)
ag’s remarks about what I’ll oversimplify as “bombastic” exposes are, imo, finely accurate. Much of what we read as “alternative” “truth-telling” is, imo, diversionary “limited hangouts” by those who would prefer we not traffic in actual truth, and are willing to tell some truth so long as it is sullied by association with crackpotism and such.
THAT said, much of it is probably unwitting or at worst self-serving exploitation of an information ecology/economy by which the likes of, for example, Alex Jones makes some money while in the process trashing the public perception of the alternative news, investigative journalism, truth-telling, etc. that they claim to be and revere.
As for Raul’s remarks, I’ll point out that ag is not dismissing the informative value of pieces by persons like Denningner; she is bemoaning their too-often hysterical tonality which indeed puts many people off. Blogs with titles like A Nation of Sheeple automatically alienate a great many people. I don’t think they shouldn’t be posted. They’re usually informative and more accurate than not. But they are not unproblematic.
I don’t think ag intended to be dismissive of TAE as a viable info source; she just pointed out certain problems with some of the kinds of journalism we have to rely on at this point.
It could be possible to categorize a day’s news aggregation along caveat emptor lines, probably along a spectrum: caveat emptor MSM for one set of reasons (institutional corruption); caveat emptor Denninger or Geert Vanden Bossche for another (assertions that tend to sound hysterical); sites like Russia Observer for another (extreely reliable and expertly informative). ‘Color-coded for your convenience!’
Remarks like this: “How much more selective can I be? That these reports contradict the MSM, should speak in their favor for anyone with a working brain” work against the goal of increasing public awareness and are an example, btw, of the things I perceive ag being concerned about: dismissing potential readers as being somehow too stupid to grasp what is being conveyed. That’s “A Nation of Sheeple” alienator right there. It’s elitist, arrogant, and insulting.
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@ absolute galore
“He got very angry about my mild questioning of the policy of vaccinating everyone (I did not even directly say I was not vaccinated). ”
Denial is a powerful thing. The majority are extremely ADDICTED to their trust in the authorities. They will react VICIOUSLY when cornered. That is why I recommend “leading with the chin” by basing one’s challenges to the mainstream kovid narrative on opening premises like “I am very concerned about the negative health aspects of the vaccine to myself and my loved ones”. This steals their sense of exclusive monopoly on self-protection and sense of vunerability. This sets it up so that when they bluster against one’s position, one can respond with the same bullets they employ: “Apparently, you don’t care if I get sick. You’re entitled to your opinion as I am to mine, but you’re not entitled to dictate how I preserve my health. If you trust Pfizer, that’s your decision. I don’t, and that’s mine.”
Leading with the chin is foolish in a fight unless one is doing so to invite a predictable strike one can then counter-attack. But a) this isn’t a fight, it’s an exchange of ideas, and b) insomuch as they insist on making it a fight rather than a fair exchange, you’ve now set them up to be hoist be their own petard.
But also, underlying all of this, is learning to recognize what angers you, seeing it as a fear-based involuntary reflex, and learning to replace that anger reflex with the opposite. Usualy, you won’t win that specific battle, at least not as it happens, but the damage to their self-protective shell of denial will persist and take effect over time. Meanwhile, as you get better at it, you’ll grow ninja skills that in time will indeed let you win the “battle” there and then, decisively.
The number one key is not to let their antagonism bring out your anger. Their anger is based on raw terror weay down inside, and it is foolish to antagonize the terrified. They double-down both in retreat or attack. Instead, present yourself as a victim similar to their sense of victimhood, in the process prompting not their fear-based defensiveness but rather their sense of compassion, even if the path to that sense of compassion initially follows their sense of guilt and the denialism that guilt inspires.
Fauci does this all the time, btw: “I’m not trying to hurt you, I’m trying to help you!” It’s easy for him because he has a vast media platform backing him up, but the tactic is crudely the essential same: kill ’em with kindness.
Sample in simplified form:
you: I disagree.
them: you’re an idiot fool.
you: it’s my personal safety not yours. I’d be a foolish idiot to trust my personal safety to the opinions of others when it’s my responsibility to take care of myself, not theirs.I recommend focusing on your breathing. Srsly. Take a deep breath and count to whatever. Tonality is 90% of communication. Trump won the prsidency despite being a glaring lunatic because he projected and appealed to a certain angry disgusted mistrustful tonality oin the plebiscite. Fauci has gone as far as he has with his shit-charade by projecting a certain tonality. I never fell for it, not for a second, because I’ve dealt with too many Faucis in my personal, yea, intimate personal life.
But most people eat that stuff up because most people have never taken the risk required to be a free individual in a society driven by mass hypnosis. Don’t fight the Fauci: BE the Fauci.
P.S. You’ve seen me tear a few new ones with this or that person here. Sometimes, as my granny used to say, you have to talk to a jackass on their behind with a stick. 😉
@ absolute galore
“(I’m sure I induce some ocular rotation in the orbits now and then as well–Miley C., anyone?;^)”
I thought your point about Miley was spot on. The girl can sure sang, y’all. It’s just the material she rode to fame on, the mega-media production values that were so abhorrent to me. My eyes didn’t roll; they opened. I like having them opened.
@Absolute Galore: “IATMO”?
IATMO stands for International Academy of Tumor Marker Oncology (cancer study)Dr. Martin Feeley served as Clinical Director of the Dublin Midlands Hospital Group until September 2020, when he resigned after the HSE said his criticisms of lockdown made his position “untenable”. In this piece, he sets out his views on the Government’s Covid Vaccination strategy, and asks whether universal vaccination for Covid is appropriate, when compared with the focused vaccination strategy used to control influenza.
It looks like the Taliban in Afghanistan are holding Biden to Trump’s Mayday withdrawal commitment.
Moon of Alabama: “That 200 government police and troops laid down their weapons – other reports even say they changed sides – points to the immense fragility of the Afghan forces. Nearly twenty years of U.S. ‘training’ has had little effect.Ghazni, south of Kabul, is also under attack and may soon fall to the Taliban.
Yesterday the U.S. launched airstrikes on the southern province Helmand where the Taliban are besieging the province capital Lashkar Gah”
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/05/afghanistan-taliban-capture-baghlan.html#commentsI’m sure this has no bearing at all upon the biggest-ever NATO military games on Rusia’s borderlands, none at all. NATOUS can fight 3 full scale wars at once.
Right?I’m no fan of Tucker – but interestingly, on many issues, he does talk alot of sense.
“TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: How many Americans have died after taking the COVID vaccines?”
“You can’t fire me, I Quit!”
RUSSIA IS PREPARED TO DISCONNECT FROM SWIFT PAYMENT SYSTEM: FOREIGN MINISTRYRussia Is Prepared To Disconnect From SWIFT Payment System: Foreign Ministry
“Heh, heh, heh…” , Bevis.
@ John Day
“I’m sure this has no bearing at all upon the biggest-ever NATO military games on Rusia’s borderlands, none at all. NATOUS can fight 3 full scale wars at once. Right?”
While it technically is related, it is related in the way that a paranoid schizophrenic’s belief she is Napoleon is related to Napoleonic history. They simply won’t face reality and have no other tricks up their sleeves but the same old ones that never did work except to wreck and plunder the weakest among us. Facing a genuinely capable adversary, they evaporate as we see happening.
Why, having made themselves fantastically wealthy, they are now steadfastly destroying both the money that contains their wealth and the things that wealth can buy.
Excerpt from an article in today’s NYT. There is also an article about giving people $100 to get vaccinated, but I could not access. Note that the hesitancy is definitely being linked to failure to reach “herd immunity.”
Poll Shows Parents Are Reluctant to Get Their Children Vaccinated for Covid-19
The new survey also found only 9 percent of adult respondents hadn’t gotten the shot but planned to do so, suggesting the country is nearing the limit of people planning to get immunized.
The American public’s willingness to get a Covid vaccine is reaching a saturation point, a new national poll suggests,
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one more indication that achieving widespread immunity in the United States is becoming increasingly challenging
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Only 9 percent of respondents said they hadn’t yet gotten the shot but intended to do so, according to the survey, published in the April edition of the Kaiser Family Foundation’s Vaccine Monitor. And with federal authorization of the Pfizer vaccine for adolescents ages 12 through 15 expected imminently, the eagerness of parents to let their children be vaccinated is also limited, the poll found.
Overall, slightly more than half of those surveyed said they had gotten at least one dose of the vaccine, a finding that matches data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
“We’re in a new stage of talking about vaccine demand,” said Mollyann Brodie, executive vice president of Kaiser’s Public Opinion and Survey Research Program. “There’s not going to be a single strategy to increase demand across everyone who is left. There will be have to be a lot of individually targeted efforts. The people still on the fence have logistical barriers, information needs, and lots don’t yet know they are eligible. Each strategy might move a small number of people to get vaccinated, but all together, that could matter a lot…
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The Pfizer vaccine is expected to be authorized for children ages 12 through 15 within days. Among parents who were surveyed, three in 10 said they would get their children vaccinated right away, and 26 percent said they wanted to wait to see how the vaccine was working. …The responses from parents may well change over time, experts say. Just as adults were far more reluctant last summer when the vaccine was still a concept, parents surveyed several weeks ago, when imminent authorization for children under 16 had not been widely discussed, might also have been reacting to a hypothetical situation rather than a reality.
But pediatricians and others who are seen as trusted sources of information are already aware that they have considerable work to do to instill vaccine confidence in this latest cohort.
Dr. Sean O’Leary, a pediatrician in Denver who is vice chairman of the committee on infectious diseases for the American Academy of Pediatrics, predicted that just as adults had swarmed Covid vaccine providers during the initial weeks of distribution, parents and pent-up young teenagers would rush for it at the start, too.
But Dr. O’Leary, who often gives talks to pediatricians about how to motivate patients to accept vaccinations, worries that a slowdown will inevitably follow. To persuade hesitant parents, he said, “we have to make the vaccine available in as many places as possible.”
He added, “If parents and patients are in the pediatrician’s office and the doctor can say, ‘Hey, I’ve got it,’ that may be enough of a nudge for them to say, ‘Let’s go ahead and do this.’”
Left out the paragraph about herd immunity:
With a growing number of scientists and public health experts concluding that it is unlikely that the country will reach the threshold of herd immunity, the Biden administration has stepped up efforts to reach those who are still hesitant. On Tuesday, the administration announced steps to encourage more pop-up and mobile vaccine clinics and to distribute shots to primary care doctors and pediatricians as well as local pharmacies.
@John Day: That was a typo. ATMO According to My Opinion. This was an early acronym created by a well-known bicycle frame builder back in the day that he used/uses on various bike forums.
Van Morrison: Latest Record Project Volume 1 review – depressing rants by tinfoil milliner
People love Van way more than the government or the fox-guarding-the-henhouse Guardian. So very desperate, they are.
@madamski, thank you for your response and suggestions, much appreciated. And yes, that is essentially my beef with some of the writing, but I understand it is mostly up to us to sift through it.
The funny thing about my conversation with my friend, who is no dummy, was that he was very agitated, while I was extremely calm, even, admittedly, unusually calm during our discussion. He kept saying that people who choose to pick a fight with the vaccines are actually angry about something else, and should look to identify what that might be. In other words, that this idea of freedom of one’s choice was merely an acting out based on some other grievance.
BTW, I “identify” as a he/man. Not that I don’t appreciate my feminine side.
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