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    Paul Gauguin Landscape with black pigs and a crouching Tahitian 1891   • The Real Bombshell of the Impeachment Hearings (Ron Paul) • Neocon Uses
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle November 26 2019]

    #51712
    V. Arnold
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    The most shocking thing to come out of the hearings thus far is confirmation that no matter who is elected President of the United States, the permanent government will not allow a change in our aggressive interventionist foreign policy, particularly when it comes to Russia. Even more shocking is that neither Republicans nor Democrats are bothered in the slightest!

    Well duh!!!
    A point those of us paying attention have been pointing out for years!
    Hello Rand Paul! Are you so bloody thick; you’e just waking up to this????
    God’s be good!
    We’re truly, done and done, and done……………………….

    #51713

    Rand Paul does not equal Ron Paul

    #51714
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Armstrong on Thailand:

    Q: I have dual passports. Should I leave Australia?

    “ANSWER: The UK will most likely adopt a worldwide income tax. As an Australian resident, you are taxed on your worldwide income. This means you must declare all income you receive from foreign sources in your income tax return. You might want to look at moving to Thailand. They are outside of the CRS and a very reasonable country, if not the most reasonable in SE Asia. It is hard to say what will unfold there going forward. However, the only thing that is certain is that the West is in the decline & fall mode. The financial power will shift to Asia post-2032.

    We have to understand that all the promises of socialism are crumbling to the ground. The governments will become much more aggressive to enforce taxation in a desperate attempt to retain power. That will fail. The only thing this is causing is rising separatist movements and inevitable violence.”

    Thought you might appreciate the Hermitage.

    #51715
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    So it’s The Guardian. Sue me. No one’s selling electric cars in this aerticle, just a more complete, nuanced, and balanced look at the known facts:

    Climategate 10 Years On

    #51716
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Thought you might appreciate the Hermitage.

    Interesting; and indeed I do know what I’ve got. 😉
    True regarding Thailand; my income from abroad is not taxed.
    There are no property taxes for home owners; a home payed for, is a home truly owned!
    To be fair; one needs to understand, those from western countries cannot own property here.
    A condo not on the ground floor can be bought and owned.
    Not my cup of tea, but for others?

    I, for one, would never again live anywhere in the west; they’re a very sick bunch, IMO…

    #51717
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “The only thing this is causing is rising separatist movements and inevitable violence.”

    Aye. Bricks and bats. I’ll add to this bloke’s mention of socialism’s failed promises, those of capitalism as well. And fascism. And monarchism. And corporatism. As for communism: it still works on the tribal level, a nifty extended family size humanity should never have evolved out of. On larger scales, it just becomes another flavor of Mammon. Like that E. O. Wilson quote, Raul posted the other day:

    “The real problem of humanity is the following: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and god-like technology.”

    Mammon is as Mammon does.

    #51718
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    A note on how societies generally unravel:

    Molecular Civil War

    #51719
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Rand Paul does not equal Ron Paul

    Yes, I know, agreed.
    But still…………

    #51720
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Oh shit! The troll is back…

    #51721
    oxymoron
    Participant

    it’s quite the balancing act – you have to be self-employed to pull it off – that of earning just enough income to have very little or no tax (here in Australia). You also want to get most of your money immediately spent on useful things like buildings, fencing, water tanks and earthworks. Things hard to steal and somewhat diffuse. A few truckloads of topsoil and some bird netting too.
    Oh and Ilargi the Nate Hagens article was such a nice summary of things as they are in the human superorganism and gave me a lot of food for thought and a real desire for more action on my end.So thanks for that

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800919310067#bib0530

    #51722
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Also, when you are planting fruit trees and installing veggie gardens and the rest as your way of generating income – as I do, you do sometimes scratch your head and wonder why so many of us want so many useless and lifeless things like gaming consoles and methamphetamines, I was netting Cherries for one of my clients today and took home a bunch and thought to my self so many of us could actually just do shit like this but we come up with a lot of reasons to eat up a lot of the earths energy.
    Very confusing….

    #51723
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Quote of the day: “The great mistake foreign observers make observing the latest farce in Washington is assuming that there must be some order, rationality and linear logic behind it. There is none. It is Politics According to the Marx Brothers” https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-wonderland-his-head

    Nah, Ron has been saying this since the day he got in office, in 1976. Just no one gives a s–t.

    “The Real Bombshell of the Impeachment Hearings (Ron Paul)”

    Vindman say: “Why bother to vote, brother? We got your back! Go back to sleep and let us handle it, nothing you say matters to us anyway.”

    Thanks! I knew we set up that Republic for a reason. So all us citizens and watchmen could not lift a finger and sleep in peace.

    “CBS 60-Minutes joined the gaslighting rotation Sunday night with a reality-optional Russia Hacked Our Election story.”

    Still shopping for that Civil War and not doing too bad: by ordering and shaming their followers to never, ever read anything not written by us, The Cult™, we have two (at least one) air-tight echo chambers, so literally the news reports “Sondman CONFIRMS Trump”, and “Sondman REFUTES Trump.” No one is sued, no one goes to jail. But we do have the option of your neighborhood breaking into open violence, and everyone you know getting killed, and every building you’ve ever entered being burned to the ground. In a reality-optional world, that too is a fantasy, and the side without and guns or training is going to vanquish a side with almost all the guns and training. ‘Cause, reasons. Side of the Angels or something-something. Blah blah I’m bored already.

    Speaking of, everytime the Right comes up with a meme, the Left mirrors it. Thus, the “Looking Glass World” “CNN: Trump Is Leader Of ‘Destructive Cult’ , Uses ‘Mind-Control’ (SN)” He ain’t the only one. What cult is it that finds out their leaders were universally picking up and raping their daughters from Minnesota to Florida, then says, “Meh. That’s our leaders!”

    Spiegel Finds Browder’s Magnitsky Narrative Is Riddled with Lies (RT)”

    Martin Armstrong was pretty close to these guys and he refutes the whole thing. It’s not hard: just be literate and read the records. Like most things. But as Solomon, people read the photocopies of his documents and say, “No it isn’t.”

    “Uber Loses License to Operate in London (BBC)”

    Uber has never turned a profit, and in an industry as profit-thin as pizza parlors, there’s no reason to think they ever will. So who’s funding them for multi-billions and why?

    “When will Andrew be arrested?”

    A: Never. They are going to take away the piñata at his birthday party. Ow! Too much!

    Americans in 3rd world conditions. https://www.theorganicprepper.com/power-water-americans-third-world/
    But it’s only 90% of all counties, the red ones. But don’t worry, Berkeley says: they’re “bad people” who deserve “uncomfortable” lives. 30,000 deaths a year is just a start for our final solution against them! However, we sure have $100 Billions for foreign aid, war, and bank bailouts! The banks can take $130B a night if they want! We’re up to about $350B long-term bail already.

    A story after your own heart: Darn, This Is Inconvenient: Apple Is Destroying the Planet to Maximize Profits
    http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2019/11/darn-this-is-inconvenient-apple-is.html
    Apple

    #51724
    wwoofbum
    Participant

    Why is “Greenhouse gas concentrations again break records” news? When ANYTHING is rising on an exponential curve, “records” will be broken…not just every year, but every month, week, and day. The stupidity of such headlines leaves me in awe of the human capacity for burying its head in the sand.

    #51725
    John Day
    Participant

    http://www.johndayblog.com/2019/11/chinese-people.html
    ​(Outside Hong Kong) The rest of China has these massive and growing re-education camps (satellite photos). All of China has electronic micro-surveillance with AI embedded in all communications devices, facial recognition street-cameras, and so on.
    ​ ​A series of classified Chinese government documents were leaked by a group of journalists describe the secret operations of detention camps in Xinjiang, reported Reuters.
    ​ ​Published by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) Sunday, the documents offer a rare look into the massive internment camp for Muslim-majority Uyghur in the troubled western region of China.
    ​ ​The 2017 documents reveal a list of guidelines “that effectively serves as a manual for operating the camps now holding hundreds of thousands of Muslim Uighurs and other minorities,” said ICIJ.
    ​ ​The leak shows intelligence briefings of “how Chinese police are guided by a massive data collection and analysis system that uses artificial intelligence to select entire categories of Xinjiang residents for detention,” said ICIJ.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/new-leak-shows-chinas-operating-manuals-re-education-camps-chinese-muslims-xinjiang

    ​I hear most transactions in China are paid by smartphone now.
    Chinese rulers are historically autocratic. Chinese peasants occasionally revolt.
    China’s ‘Official’ Virtual Currency Could Be Arriving “Quite Soon” To “Challenge The U.S.”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/chinas-virtual-currency-could-be-arriving-quite-soon-challenge-us

    ​The US deep state is feeding anti-authoritarian movements in China, and brutal dictatorship in Saudi Arabia.​ Why?
    Reuters notes in a series of headlines on Tuesday, China’s top diplomat Yang Jiechi criticized US lawmakers for supporting protestors in Hong Kong.
    CHINA’S TOP DIPLOMAT YANG JIECHI SAYS CHINA STRONGLY CONDEMNS US BILL ON HONG KONG HUMAN RIGHTS -XINHUA
    CHINA’S TOP DIPLOMAT YANG JIECHI SAYS LODGED STERN REPRESENTATIONS WITH US ON HONG KONG BILL-XINHUA
    ​https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinas-top-diplomat-strongly-condemns-us-bill-hong-kong

    Alistair Crooke asks, “Is Trump a covert ally to the multipolar order?” (I think that’s called “realism”.)
    ​ ​We are led to understand that the unipolar ‘moment’ of US ascendency is giving way – grudgingly – to a multipolar world: a reversion perhaps to a more nineteenth century ‘concert’ of powers (or, of significant ‘poles’ – since size is not always the prime determinant). And that Trump is trying simply to prolong that hegemonic, US moment – albeit through different means, which is to say, adopting seemingly bizarre, and sometimes counterproductive, acts and language, that infuriate the American foreign policy establishment.​..
    (This part is fun.) ​ ​ In practical terms, Obama can be viewed, as some in Moscow suggest, as the Gorbachev of the American regime, (i.e. the man who began the retrenchment out from certain of the Empire’s more extended nodes); and Trump then, in this analogy, is the Yeltsin of this regime: (i.e. the president who has re-focused on the internal arena, and on reducing the burdens of the republics that used to constitute parts of the Soviet Union).​..
    ​ Wherever you look around the globe, America’s policies have strengthened the sovereigntists: i.e. Iran, Russia and China. Is this simply paradoxical – or deliberate? As one Russian thinker has noted, “Trump’s conservative tendencies and his deep isolationist predisposition, are placing him in the position of being an objective ally of ours (i.e. Russia and China). One who is facilitating the realisation of our project.”​…
    ​ And, as a final speculation: Is this somewhat similar to what has been going on between Trump and Xi (i.e. a play analogous to that with Iran)? Is Trump ramping up the max-pressures, and threats of Cold War against China, to substitute for the military war that some of his deep state might love him to fight, but which Trump has no intention of doing?

    Is Trump a ‘Covert Ally’ to the Multipolar Order?

    What’s the world coming to?! Nice story of practical community action at the right time…​
    When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Just don’t call it ‘socialism.’
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/22/baldwin-florida-food-desert-city-owned-grocery-store/

    #51726
    Dr. D
    Participant

    So…Socialism. WHY did the previous store close? In our whole area, state, perhaps most of the country, it’s high property and other taxes, which are ESPECIALLY punitive to businesses. …But they give the discount on taxes to Wal-Mart, taken FROM the businesses on Main Street who’ve sat in on every council meeting since they were 20 and been struggling for 30 years. You know, cause anybody except our town is better™! So, like Churches, who are also doing okay, and halfway houses, and state agencies, and state-protected monopolies, which are every remaining business in these areas, This grocery pays no property tax. That’s probably a 10% gain, which is twice a grocery’s profit margin.

    Okay, next problem: Socialism always works great! …But only at first. No shame to it, that’s why it’s so tempting. After a while, the store is established, is not competing, the people have no means to complain or shut it down, and it very slowly gets run worse until it’s a DRAIN on the town, but no one will shut it down, because we’ve always had it and admitting it needs a shake-up is embarrassing to somebody’s smarty-pants brother-in-law who’s now running it at $75k salary plus full pension benefits due to 3% compounded raises over the years. When they get to this point, maybe 20 years from now, they’ll either sink the whole town — which, P.S. is EXACTLY HOW THEY GOT INTO THIS MESS, WITH TOO-HIGH BUSINESS/PROPERTY TAXES — or, like Britain, then “privatize” their failure, handing some rich guy this pig but at far, far under the market price, giving him the people’s assets for free.

    Oh and 10 miles? What are you kidding me? People in the U.S., out west, have DRIVEWAYS that are 5 miles long. And the totally-paved, fully-ditched, entirely-subsidized, DOT-approved, roads are just too hard and rough for them? That’s 10 minutes to the store. 20 to the city. You’re in the ‘burbs, man! Admit it. Every state not on the coast has a 10 minute drive MINIMUM to the store. But hey, it’s their right as the local government to do so if they wish, and it’s not impossible for it to go well, just pretty unlikely. Just saying would have been a lot easier to NOT screw the previous IGA owner to death and scare the prospective buyers silly with the terrible business environment your town provides. Then we wouldn’t have great stories about how Capitalism, which was run out of business by government, is bad, and Socialism, which destroyed all those previously-existing businesses and livelihoods, towns and counties, is good.

    #51727
    zerosum
    Participant

    In the west, there is one man digging with a shovel and 5 men standing around watching and 1 woman directing traffic wearing a body cam.
    In China, there are 7 men building a road and 10 cameras operators in an office watching remotely.
    —–
    You heard me say many time that the enablers of the elites were the bankers, the lawyers, the accountants.
    Somebody did a study to find out who are the elites.
    Yep! The majority came out of the same education system.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-rules-world
    Elites. They’re all over the news these days. But who are they and what do we know about them?
    Authored by Bilal Hafeez via MacroHive.com, 20-11-2019

    #51728
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I see China is buying lots of dollars. That makes me happy. I want our currency to stay artificially solvent a few more years. Entirely self-serving wish but after so many pretty girls in bikinis have wished for an end to war and world hunger, live, on so many TV beauty pageants, and things just get worse, I’ve grown jaded.

    ***

    “Uber has never turned a profit, and in an industry as profit-thin as pizza parlors, there’s no reason to think they ever will. So who’s funding them for multi-billions and why?”

    I’ll play paranoid and ponder how mapping the physical routines of bunches of people and collating that with their debit/credit history (i.e., every known fact concerning them) might be worth funding by the usual snoopscoop suspects loosely known in vernacular as the NSA Deepstate.

    Add the announcement that Uber (or was it Lyft? same diff) plans to audio-record all rides “for safety reasons”. Then get a buncha people strung out on Uber as their bread gig, and see how handy they might be for delivering people to the wrong place or some shit. I dunno.

    Here’s something genuinely eerie: Tesla’s ten zillion commsats. So we can have selective internet? Shut down the mainstream net while maintaining alternate private nets?

    Small example of the potential for mayhem that any disruption to either the power grid or the interwebs: We’re raising a generation of younguns here in Portland that don’t drive and don’t know how they got from here to there. Just click Lyft, wait, get in, ride, click*pay, get out. With your nose in your screen the entire time.

    Paranoia off now. Still seems plausible. “Sometimes, they really are after you.”

    But stupidity could explain it equally well. Incompetence crafts its own evil in its attempts to cover its ass for what were, alas, honest mistakes. My impression is that the sycophants of genuinely malignant sociopaths become, after years of yessiring to higher ups, more malignant than the originals. Moral character is in part a brain function, and the brain is plastic. It changes over time.

    ***

    No one owes me nuthin but I am nonetheless still impatiently waiting to be thrown at least a cryptic hint as to how the generals put Trump into office.

    ***

    Yeah, socialism and capitalism are both great for starting things, getting an operation or a trend into motion, but both turn to swamp juice once they’re institutionalized. But so it goes with anything based on trust in and worship of Mammon.

    And both suck inherently when applied to mega/giga population groups. One does not create sane governance of virtually uncountable frothing hordes of lab rats in giant cages within giant cages within giant cages. The result is always some version of that efficiency which is death. The result is usually something like this:

    A single death is a tragedy, 14,600-33 is a statistic

    and again

    I always tell people how convenient it was for the likes of Baden-Powell, Stalin, Hitler, et al, that we already had these things called cattle cars and this concept of industrialized disassembly line factory slaughter. Just add unwantables and… what? No one’s hungry? He. If I’d known you were coming I’d have baked a kike, as a joke from 1968 7th grade schoolyard says.

    Something tells me that this go-round of concentration camps will find more efficient uses of dead meat than burning it with expensive energy resources.

    Waste not, want not.

    ***

    On a happier note:

    Dog and Dolphins

    #51729
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Re: China:

    John Day’s remarks reminded me that just this pre-dawn AM, I was having an imaginary conversation with some imaginary friend (let’s call him Roscoe) about how long, compared to those of Russia, Germany, USA has been China’s crawl through the rubble of its own wreckage has taken close to 130 years, if we count from the death of the Empress Dowager, which is being kind to Chinese history since the rot had taken many decades getting there.

    China is several 1,000 years old. Russia barely has a grand in its history. Germany a handful of centuries. USA, not quite 2&1/2 centuries. China has some crawling still left to do, imo, while Russia is entirely through its Bitter Lesson crash recovery curve, having been at its crash curve collapse recovery almost as long as China.

    Russia has another advantage: its synthesis of paganism with Xtianity. And, of course, all that lovely frozen tundra which, while said tundra will be methaning us lower nations into fricaseed heat wave by mid-21st century, will itself become fine soil and mineral deposits and freshwater aquifers and the world’s richest and cleanest fishing stocks…

    China will fuck itself up yet. The blue print is already there, Silk Road Redux or not. It has one more major violent internal upheaval to go through, imo.

    And then, I know it’s becoming kinda cliche to say in some circles, but Russia has Putin while China has Xi, a man whose name backwards says ‘icks’. My money is on Russia to do best off all, maybe by far.

    Since my kids haven’t taken my advice to learn Russian (and Spanish), I now tell them to try and be there when Russia accepts immigrant indentured labor to work its oil/mineral deposits. Almost a kind of charity on the Russian’s part but hey, slave labor is a major carbon offset, so my kids can be slaves AND help save the planet!

    Empress Dowager

    Dream Nice Dreams, Y’all:

    Coming Out of the Ice

    #51730

    From yesterday:

    Your knowledge of belt and road is nonexistent- ignore it then call it a debt trap. Nonsense.

    That’s always a great argument, isn’t it? It really gets the conversation going. “It’s not because I don’t agree with you, it’s because you’re dumb as nails.”

    What moves people to say such things? I would never dream of calling this guy’s -or anyone’s- knowledge “non-existent”. Where does that come from?

    #51731
    John Day
    Participant

    Ilargi,
    Firesign Theater had this completely explained in 1974. “Everything You Know Is Wrong”
    http://firesigntheatre.com/media/media.php?item=eykiw-rv

    Thanks for looking at what I put up, guys.
    John-as-wrong-as-most

    #51732
    lasttwo
    Participant

    Gabbard just for the hell of it
    the trillions of dollars spent on stupid wars could pay for Solar panels and heat pumps
    none of it may matter but it may be one of the few time when doing something is better than doing nothing.

    and Epstein did not kill himself.

    #51733
    zerosum
    Participant

    Here is another summary.

    https://patriotssoapbox.com/opinion/impeachment-follies-a-film-by-adam-schiff/
    Written by
    Radix Verum
    November 26, 2019 at 10:45 am

    Here is a teaser.

    “Now we are learning more about Alexandra Chalupa, the Ukrainian DNC operative who was involved in the 2016 election interference against the Trump Campaign.”

    #51734
    zerosum
    Participant

    More info

    Steele distributed other dossier reports, including one to an oligarch’s lawyer


    Steele distributed other dossier reports, including one to an oligarch’s lawyer
    November 26, 2019
    Sample
    Fiona Hill, a recent impeachment witness and a former top Russia expert on the National Security Council, suggested to lawmakers in a deposition recently that Steele’s dual role as government insider/informer and private intelligence provider left him vulnerable to Russian disinformation when he wrote his dossier.
    “He was constantly trying to drum up business,” Hill testified when asked about her own contacts from time to time with the former British intelligence agent.
    She said that when she read Steele’s anti-Trump dossier in January 2017 she instantly feared it might be disinformation fed to Steele by the Russians because he previously had done spy work for MI6.
    “That is when I expressed the misgivings and concern that he could have been played,” Hill testified.

    #51735
    zerosum
    Participant

    A look at what could happen.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/
    If the House votes for impeachment the case goes to the Senate for trial.
    The Republican led Senate has two choices:
    It can decide to not open an impeachment trial by simply voting against impeachment. Trump wins.
    It can open a impeachment trial, use it to extensively hurt the Democrats and, in the end, vote against impeachment. Trump wins big time.
    Should the House vote for impeachment the Senate is likely to go the second path.

    An impeachment trial in the Senate would be a disaster for the Democrats.
    I can not see why the Democrats would want to fall into such a trap. House leader Nancy Pelosi is experienced enough to not let that happen. But she will have to do some serious talk to convince the party that a vote on impeachment is not the best way to proceed.

    #51736
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “What moves people to say such things? I would never dream of calling this guy’s -or anyone’s- knowledge “non-existent”. Where does that come from?”

    The Source

    #51737
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Reality check, at least from my perspective:

    Often, there is only room in a hole for one digger. Often, 15 minutes in said hole is enough to fatigue/sweat a worker to exhaustion. Another worker takes over. Periodically, there are conditions when all workers shake a tail-feather clearing debris, placing equipment, etc. Traffic is traffic even when all workers are busy, hence the need for a dedicated traffic controller.

    segue alert: we are the problem. Not our politicians or the institutions employees thereof. Them people come from us. We is them peoples. We let them boss us around. We boss them around sometimes when we’re sufficiently recovered from our turn digging in the hole. We deserve the leaders we put up with. We deserve the results of our inactions.

    Big Bubbles! No Troubles!

    #51738
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Only our news media could declare a War on Balloons:

    See Here

    #51739
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    If this meme takes off, I might have a wisp of hope for Assange’s release.

    Prince Andrew<>Julian Assange

    #51757
    restless94111
    Participant

    Regarding greenhouse gases, you might want to watch a few videos on Tony Heller’s YouTube channel. And/or you could go to notrickszone and read that latest studies and news. Doing either or both would be an eye opener. Take 30 minutes or so. You have nothing to lose, but 30 minutes time.

    Good luck!

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