Debt Rattle October 9 2023


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    NATO=NAZI Junk Wagon Armored vehicle joins five others and goes to Bandera Heavan

    And….it’s gone….


    Latest Merkava Series 4 Israeli Tanks Continue Getting Splattered

    So much for tanks, any tanks.

    They are the Army equivalent of Air Craft Carriers, sitting ducks.


    Hamas has seen the Ukronazis NATO=NAZI gear getting taken apart and ass-raped by the Russians and took note.

    The Russians have conducted a How-To on destroying tanks, armored vehicle and helicopters

    Two Israeli Helicopters Shot Down Over Gaza

    What’s that smell?

    Burning Apaches, the smell of victory.




    Burning Apaches, the smell of victory.
    I didn’t see that on CNN.


    Gaza will be Israel’s Stalingrad

    It is the ultimate urban combat death trap

    Zillions of tunnels, Whac-A-Mole on a colossal scale


    Drones, ATGMs, Smart RGPs

    Look at how Russia is perfecting this type of warfare using these weapons.

    Then watch other groups copy-cat those techniques.

    Veracious Poet

    In the end, only three things matter: How much you loved, how gently you lived & how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you.


    OLD School

    Israeli Armored Vehicles Hit With Molotov Cocktails

    Imagine Israeli vehicles navigating all the blind alleys in Gaza, all 140 square miles of it


    No food for Gaza? Yay, it’s BBQ an Iraeli day, who want’s a Jew leg to chew? If you can’t eat, eat the prisoners.

    Veracious Poet


    Hamas has seen the Ukronazis NATO=NAZI gear getting taken apart and ass-raped by the Russians and took note.

    No food for Gaza? Yay, it’s BBQ an Iraeli day, who want’s a Jew leg to chew? If you can’t eat, eat the prisoners.

    Different decade, same $hit, now with mRNA + AI!

    Ave Imperator, morituri te salutant!


    my parents said know said

    Aspnaz- if you go to the archives of your posts, it’s still there. It is also blinded for me in the 8 oct 23 comments, on both Safari and Brave.

    Thanks MPSK, it sounds like the issue is not on our machines. It is another fairy in the works of TAE’s WP machine, a machine with a host of fairies that occassionally go loopy, keeping you on your toes.


    riesterm said

    Scott Ritter quickly responded to Kennedy’s assertion tweeting,

    “I like RFKJr. I think he’s the best choice for POTUS. He’s positioned himself as the peace candidate. And this is the tweet I fear may have sunk his chances. Israel’s policies regarding Palestine are indefensible. Bobby should be promoting an equitable peace settlement. Not war.”

    Ritter is correct, but the writing was on the wall when RFK jr came out as an extreme zionist, some weeks back at the start of his campaign. Trump is also a zionist but I am not sure whether he is as extreme as RFK jr, I am sure Trump will also be supporting the defeat of the Palestinians as the only solution. Neither offer a real solution, they are the same old policies that got the world into this situation in the first place. There are no peace candidates for POTUS, the USA does not do peace. There are no USA first candidates for POTUS, the USA does not do USA first anymore, the US Jews have seen to that, they have destroyed America.


    So what’s stopping Hamas from using drones just like the Russians are using them against tanks?

    Nothing except getting possession of the drones on the black market.

    Israeli tanks are no better than Challengers or Leopards.

    Drone goes after the top hatch on a modern tank, a weak point


    Hi riesterm and John Day:

    We went and heard RFK Junior this afternoon at Independence Mall. His speech was brilliant and inspiring. He said he is running for president in order to unite Americans of all persuasions; he does not “take sides”; he always speaks to both sides on every issue and gives them equal weight in considering his positions. He opposes censorship and supports people talking to those with whom they disagree. As an example of this method of deciding issues, he explained that he had one view about the border crisis, but then went to the border and spoke to people and actually changed his mind. Everything he said was excellent. We were truly moved, and took two of his posters to put in our yard in the suburbs of Philadelphia.
    Then we came home and saw riesterm’s post about RFK’s Twitter/X post. We were beside ourselves — his tone in that post is incredibly belligerent, pro-Israel, pro-US military aid to Israel, pro punishing the Palestinians who have already suffered for 75 years in an Apartheid theocratic state. He is certainly not following the course he outlined in today’s speech, and we are done with him. Unbelievable, the hypocrisy.
    To answer John Day’s question, he is running as an independent, not representing any party. It will be very tough for him to get on the ballot in very many states, as I know from my days campaigning for independent candidates in the past.
    But I won’t be helping him after all, after seeing his war-mongering, racist rant on Twitter/X today.
    So sad, the lack of real political leadership in this country.


    Dear Aspnaz,
    Please stop smearing my entire ethnicity. Neither RFK nor Trump are Jews, the two people you just correctly called out as Zionists. I am Jewish but am not a Zionist. Please stop your racist rants against an entire segment of the population. There are actually some Jews who do not support the Zionist state or its policies, like myself and many, many others.
    Thank you for considering this!


    Trudeau has lost control and is pissed off.
    Trudeau condemns ‘glorification of violence’ in protests after Hamas attacked Israel
    Kyaw Soe Oo and Kanishka Singh
    Mon, October 9, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.

    “I strongly condemn the demonstrations that have taken place, and are taking place, across the country in support of Hamas’ attacks on Israel,” Trudeau said in a post on X, formerly called Twitter.

    “The glorification of violence is never acceptable in Canada,” he added.


    Curlene48 said

    There are actually some Jews who do not support the Zionist state or its policies, like myself and many, many others.

    There may be, but they are very quiet and are hidden away in places where they cannot be heard. Without the Jews leading the charge against the Zionists and other badly behaved Jews, the rest of us have to assume you are the silent collaborators and take on the mantle ourselves although I note that you have highlighted RFK jr’s support for the Israeli war.

    I am calling out the Jews in the same way as I call out the Brits and Christians, even though nominally I am both. Every group has its leaders and rebels, and the leaders of the Jews, who lead the majority of the Jews, are the people I am criticising. That is the nature of groups, there is always an exception but I am not going to change what I call them just because you happen to be a Jew who disagrees with the Jewish leadership on some issues.

    But my grievance with the Jews goes way beyond the Zionists. I see the amorality of the Jews in America and am amazed that such a small group of people can cause so much trouble, participate in so much crime and demolish the basis of the country, leading what was once a great country into self destruction. I also see the way the USA drops everything to send warships to defend Israel as if the USA did not have enough issues internally.

    If you are against what they do then we can battle against them together, you can call them “my fellow Jews” and I will just call them the “Jews”. Otherwise I have to assume either that your loyalty to your ethnicity (I assume you have multiple ones) takes priority over your personal morality.


    I like free speech but I also find the Jew focus to be myopic. Buddha never gave them particular weight in the scales of illusion because there are no scales.

    What IS a Jew anyway? Identity is not reality. I don’t know who I am so don’t feel fit to comment but in the interests of kindness I reckon you could at least say sorry for any offense even if you have strong feelings about the ideas you have aspnaz.
    Your call but Curlene48 has asked nicely and I respect that.


    oxymoron said

    I don’t know who I am so don’t feel fit to comment but in the interests of kindness I reckon you could at least say sorry for any offense even if you have strong feelings about the ideas you have aspnaz.

    We are here to voice our opinions and discuss the topics presented. If you don’t like what you read then you have to deal with it yourself. I will not censor myself simply because someone else does not like my opinion or finds it offensive, after all, there must be millions of progressives, climate change believers, cat lovers, Ukraine lovers and other groups that would find me offensive; I can live with that.

    D Benton Smith


    I think you are missing the point, and that the reason you’re missing it is your insistence that the entirety of a group be identified as essentially the same as the worst behaving part of the group. Thus Jews are bad because the worst Jews are really really awful, and Catholics are bad because the Pope is a Satanic pervert, and Americans are bad because Biden/Clinton/Deep State et al.

    That methodology does not hold up well under scrutiny because . . . by that method of moral reasoning . . . ethnically Palestinian Israelis are bad because of Zionists, and ethnically Russian Ukrainians are bad because of Ukrainian Nazis , and both you and I are bad because we are both ruled over by megalomaniacal Globalist Elite Monsters in our respective countries. Hell, why not take that methodology all the way to its logical conclusion and declare all men bad because of Ted Bundy, and all women bad because Hillary Clinton.

    I do apologize for letting those assholes take over my country, but couldn’t we devise a better metric for separating good guys from bad guys than our religious or genealogical heritage? It just doesn’t seem to be specific enough to be of any damn use, and it alienates the very people whose knowledge, loyalties and behaviors we wish to influence for the better.

    You’re plenty smart enough to think logically, but are apparently too bored or lazy to do the work that specificity (and real intelligence) absolutely demands.


    Looks like even some Jews are also getting into trouble for referring to “the Jews” … Don’t you love it when one group considers itself special, chosen, where the rules for the others do not apply. Should I be complaining about Jews who refer to white supremecists? Should I be saying, oh, there must be one person who is white but not a supremicist?

    In reality there is a disproportionate group of Jews who have significant influence in the UK and USA. They have their organisations which work to help Jewish interests, usually at the expense of the rest of society. The example of free speech is typical, holocaust denial being a crime in some countries and is classified as hate speech in the UK. Then there are the special “anti-semitism” clause for Jews, but blacks and asians all just go under the racism laws. The cost to the rest of society is substantial; all Jews benefit and all non-Jews pay the price.

    Another example was Jeremy Corbyn, where Jewish interest groups corrupted the British political system for the benefit of Israel, Jeremy Corbyn being a staunch supporter of the Palestinian cause and for a peaceful settlement. But no, the Jews got their way and the British suffered as a result, their democracy being corrupted by the Jews, same as in the USA. They smeared Corbyn, which is what I am being accused of by Curlene48, so that he had to resign.

    I am not going to change my use of language to suit a particular group. I really don’t care whether the group involves innocent parties as groups always include innocent parties.


    D Benton Smith said

    I think you are missing the point, and that the reason you’re missing it is your insistence that the entirety of a group be identified as essentially the same as the worst behaving part of the group.

    If a group fails to police itself then the whole group is at fault. That the Jewish community allows its most powerful members to behave against the interests of the greater society, then the whole group is at fault and should be held to account by the Jews and the greater society. That applies to Catholics and their pedophile priests as well as to Jews and their murdering zionists, politicians and political oligarchs.

    Jews believe in group punishment, they would approve, you think there are any safe Palestinians in Israel? You think they are bombing Gaza on an individual basis or as group punishment? I am happy to refer to the Jews as a group, it is the language that they use.

    Netanyahu comes out and declares a war against Hamas, but then he starts bombing all the Palestinians, as if every Palestinian was in Hamas, group punishment, sort of like every Jew is a zionist. The Jewish leadership is behaving this way yet you want me to speak differently of Jews because? Sure, most Palestiains probably do support Hamas. Sure, most Jews probably do support Israel.

    You are asking for one rule for the Jews, a different rule for everybody else.


    2016 Trump elected = Russian interference, Afghanistan moab, Israel Jerusalem crowned – Iran Soleimani murder. Syria bombed, China covid bioweapon, Ukraine funding, Trump insurection, multiple impeachments and lawsuits. No resolve.

    2020 Biden ‘elected’, China bioweapon, Lockdowns and money printing destroying gloabal economy, Russia war, Ukraine biolabs, Afghanistan retreat, China Taiwan, Iran guilty, Israel war. Impeachments and lawsuits. No resolve.

    2023 Bullet for brains RFK, “lets all suck Israels dick together” – We’re all Israelis, we’re all in this together…. No resolve.

    Still voting are you? Still believe an American World Leader will arise out of this pile of shit Nation?
    Gotta go hang the blue and white Jew flag next to the yellow and blue Nazi flag.

    America has gone full retard. Most of the nation jumping up and down with blood lust supporting the Jews in obliviating Gaza. KILL KILL KILL !!! Un fucking believeable that this is what humanity has devolved to.

    Terrorists muder. Pick a side and support murder !

    I see no resolve, no voting a way out. World War 3 has begun. Any wagers?

    I think you are missing the point, and that the reason you’re missing it is your insistence that the entirety of a group be identified as essentially the same as the worst behaving part of the group.

    Oh really? The entirety of the group defines itself as both a race AND religion, as having special genetic blood line, as being the smartest on the planet. Are you actually saying this is NOT a fact that they repeatedly claim?

    All Jews are the ultimate bullshitters, They have the “victim” card in one hand always ready to wave- and in the other greedy hand? They collectively steal (the land of Israel IS stolen) lie and cheat together as a clan. Goyim ? If you are born to a Jew mother – you are a Jew, period. If you are not a jew- you are not in their club, period.

    Jews are all about Supremacism- they are a racist mysoginist elitist tribe. They describe themselves as the chosen people. Are you seriously denying this?

    Supremacism is the belief that a certain group of people is superior to all others. The supposed superior people can be defined by age, gender, race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, language, social class, ideology, nationality, culture, or belong to any other part of a particular population.

    What was the Balfour Declaration?
    More than 100 years ago, on November 2, 1917, Britain’s then-foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour, wrote a letter addressed to Lionel Walter Rothschild, a figurehead of the British Jewish community.
    The letter was short – just 67 words – but its contents had a seismic effect on Palestine that is still felt to this day.
    It committed the British government to “the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people” and to facilitating “the achievement of this object”. The letter is known as the Balfour Declaration.
    In essence, a European power promised the Zionist movement a country where Palestinian Arab natives made up more than 90 percent of the population.
    A British Mandate was created in 1923 and lasted until 1948. During that period, the British facilitated mass Jewish immigration – many of the new residents were fleeing Nazism in Europe – and they also faced protests and strikes. Palestinians were alarmed by their country’s changing demographics and British confiscation of their lands to be handed over to Jewish settlers.

    What happened during the 1930s?
    Escalating tensions eventually led to the Arab Revolt, which lasted from 1936 to 1939.
    In April 1936, the newly formed Arab National Committee called on Palestinians to launch a general strike, withhold tax payments and boycott Jewish products to protest British colonialism and growing Jewish immigration.
    The six-month strike was brutally repressed by the British, who launched a mass arrest campaign and carried out punitive home demolitions, a practice that Israel continues to implement against Palestinians today.
    The second phase of the revolt began in late 1937 and was led by the Palestinian peasant resistance movement, which targeted British forces and colonialism.
    By the second half of 1939, Britain had massed 30,000 troops in Palestine. Villages were bombed by air, curfews imposed, homes demolished, and administrative detentions and summary killings were widespread.
    In tandem, the British collaborated with the Jewish settler community and formed armed groups and a British-led “counterinsurgency force” of Jewish fighters named the Special Night Squads.
    Within the Yishuv, the pre-state settler community, arms were secretly imported and weapons factories established to expand the Haganah, the Jewish paramilitary that later became the core of the Israeli army.
    In those three years of revolt, 5,000 Palestinians were killed, 15,000 to 20,000 were wounded and 5,600 were imprisoned.

    The 1948 Nakba, or the ethnic cleansing of Palestine
    Even before the British Mandate expired on May 14, 1948, Zionist paramilitaries were already embarking on a military operation to destroy Palestinian towns and villages to expand the borders of the Zionist state that was to be born.
    In April 1948, more than 100 Palestinian men, women and children were killed in the village of Deir Yassin on the outskirts of Jerusalem.
    That set the tone for the rest of the operation, and from 1947 to 1949, more than 500 Palestinian villages, towns and cities were destroyed in what Palestinians refer to as the Nakba, or “catastrophe” in Arabic.
    An estimated 15,000 Palestinians were killed, including in dozens of massacres.
    The Zionist movement captured 78 percent of historic Palestine. The remaining 22 percent was divided into what are now the occupied West Bank and the besieged Gaza Strip.
    An estimated 750,000 Palestinians were forced out of their homes.
    Today their descendants live as six million refugees in 58 squalid camps throughout Palestine and in the neighbouring countries of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt.
    On May 15, 1948, Israel announced its establishment.
    The following day, the first Arab-Israeli war began and fighting ended in January 1949 after an armistice between Israel and Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria.
    In December 1948, the UN General Assembly passed Resolution 194, which calls for the right of return for Palestinian refugees.

    The Naksa, or the Six-Day War and the settlements
    On June 5, 1967, Israel occupied the rest of historic Palestine, including the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Syrian Golan Heights and the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula during the Six-Day War against a coalition of Arab armies.
    For some Palestinians, this led to a second forced displacement, or Naksa, which means “setback” in Arabic.
    In December 1967, the Marxist-Leninist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine was formed. Over the next decade, a series of attacks and plane hijackings by leftist groups drew the world’s attention to the plight of the Palestinians.
    Settlement construction began in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip. A two-tier system was created with Jewish settlers afforded all the rights and privileges of being Israeli citizens whereas Palestinians had to live under a military occupation that discriminated against them and barred any form of political or civic expression.

    The first Intifada 1987-1993
    The first Palestinian Intifada erupted in the Gaza Strip in December 1987 after four Palestinians were killed when an Israeli truck collided with two vans carrying Palestinian workers.
    Protests spread rapidly to the West Bank with young Palestinians throwing stones at Israeli army tanks and soldiers.
    It also led to the establishment of the Hamas movement, an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood that engaged in armed resistance against the Israeli occupation.
    The Israeli army’s heavy-handed response was encapsulated by the “Break their Bones” policy advocated by then-Defence Minister Yitzhak Rabin. It included summary killings, closures of universities, deportations of activists and destruction of homes.
    The Intifada was primarily carried out by young people and was directed by the Unified National Leadership of the Uprising, a coalition of Palestinian political factions committed to ending the Israeli occupation and establishing Palestinian independence.
    In 1988, the Arab League recognised the PLO as the sole representative of the Palestinian people.
    The Intifada was characterised by popular mobilisations, mass protests, civil disobedience, well-organised strikes and communal cooperatives.
    According to the Israeli human rights organisation B’Tselem, 1,070 Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces during the Intifada, including 237 children. More than 175,000 Palestinians were arrested.
    The Intifada also prompted the international community to search for a solution to the conflict.

    The Oslo years and the Palestinian Authority
    The Intifada ended with the signing of the Oslo Accords in 1993 and the formation of the Palestinian Authority (PA), an interim government that was granted limited self-rule in pockets of the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip.
    The PLO recognised Israel on the basis of a two-state solution and effectively signed agreements that gave Israel control of 60 percent of the West Bank, and much of the territory’s land and water resources.
    The PA was supposed to make way for the first elected Palestinian government running an independent state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip with its capital in East Jerusalem, but that has never happened.
    Critics of the PA view it as a corrupt subcontractor to the Israeli occupation that collaborates closely with the Israeli military in clamping down on dissent and political activism against Israel.
    In 1995, Israel built an electronic fence and concrete wall around the Gaza Strip, snapping interactions between the split Palestinian territories.

    The second Intifada
    The second Intifada began on September 28, 2000, when Likud opposition leader Ariel Sharon made a provocative visit to the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound with thousands of security forces deployed in and around the Old City of Jerusalem.
    Clashes between Palestinian protesters and Israeli forces killed five Palestinians and injured 200 over two days.
    The incident sparked a widespread armed uprising. During the Intifada, Israel caused unprecedented damage to the Palestinian economy and infrastructure.
    Israel reoccupied areas governed by the Palestinian Authority and began construction of a separation wall that along with rampant settlement construction, destroyed Palestinian livelihoods and communities.
    Settlements are illegal under international law, but over the years, hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers have moved to colonies built on stolen Palestinian land. The space for Palestinians is shrinking as settler-only roads and infrastructure slice up the occupied West Bank, forcing Palestinian cities and towns into bantustans, the isolated enclaves for Black South Africans that the country’s former apartheid regime created.
    At the time the Oslo Accords were signed, just over 110,000 Jewish settlers lived in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. Today, the figure is more than 700,000 living on more than 100,000 hectares (390sq miles) of land expropriated from the Palestinians.

    The Palestinian division and the Gaza blockade
    PLO leader Yasser Arafat died in 2004, and a year later, the second Intifada ended, Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip were dismantled, and Israeli soldiers and 9,000 settlers left the enclave.
    A year later, Palestinians voted in a general election for the first time.
    Hamas won a majority. However, a Fatah-Hamas civil war broke out, lasting for months, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of Palestinians.
    Hamas expelled Fatah from the Gaza Strip, and Fatah – the main party of the Palestinian Authority – resumed control of parts of the West Bank.
    In June 2007, Israel imposed a land, air and naval blockade on the Gaza Strip, accusing Hamas of “terrorism”.

    The wars on the Gaza Strip
    Israel has launched four protracted military assaults on Gaza: in 2008, 2012, 2014 and 2021. Thousands of Palestinians have been killed, including many children, and tens of thousands of homes, schools and office buildings have been destroyed.
    Rebuilding has been next to impossible because the siege prevents construction materials, such as steel and cement, from reaching Gaza.
    The 2008 assault involved the use of internationally banned weaponry, such as phosphorus gas.
    In 2014, over a span of 50 days, Israel killed more than 2,100 Palestinians, including 1,462 civilians and close to 500 children.
    During the assault, called Operation Protective Edge by the Israelis, about 11,000 Palestinians were wounded, 20,000 homes were destroyed and half a million people displaced .


    citizenx said

    All Jews are the ultimate bullshitters, They have the “victim” card in one hand always ready to wave- and in the other greedy hand? They collectively steal (the land of Israel IS stolen) lie and cheat together as a clan. Goyim ? If you are born to a Jew mother – you are a Jew, period. If you are not a jew- you are not in their club, period.

    And that victim card will only work while the rest of us still retain some humanity. How long that humanity will last is uncertain, especially when you see how people are so willing to attack the underdog both in Ukraine and now in Israel.

    The underdog in Ukraine had Russia to protect it, hence that abuse was removed by force. The underdog in Israel does not have a Russia to protect it, instead it remains weak and is used by the Jews to show us just how appalling they can be, how they have zero consideration for anyone other than their own, even when that care would make life easier for their own.

    When DBS talks of Satanic Pope, maybe he should consider that the Jews behave like Satan’s chosen.


    Those who are not under brutal military occupation or refugees from ethnic cleansing have no right to judge the manner in which those who are- choose to confront their colonisers.

    Excellent coverage from the UK column today with Mike Robinson, Vanessa Beeley and Mark Anderson.

    The Jews of Israel, and all other Jews around the planet- are either in collusion with being terrorists, thieves, liars and murderers that the Apartheid Terrorist State of Israel tuly is… or they can denounce these actions and commit to ending the War crimes that Jews are responsible in committing.

    The West has chosen to support Israel Terrorism, murder, theft and War crimes. This is what Jews are-

    Remember, Assange is rotting in prison for being a jounalist reporting on US military War crimes for murdering civilians and journalists. Jews are lying, stealing, murdering war criminals. It is really quite simple based on their occupation and turning Gaza into a concentration camp.

    Denying reality is your choice…Israel is a Nation of terrorists hiding behind a religion and race playing victim.

    D Benton Smith

    @aspnaz and @citizenx

    If everyone is fairly and justly punished on an equal footing for the worst crimes of the worst people who they have failed to stop (and whose crimes they have tolerated), then the population of Earth would be zero.

    So enjoy yourself in that perfected world. Oh, Wait! I forgot. You won’t be there.

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