Debt Rattle September 12 2025
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September 12, 2025 at 3:51 pm #195534
Topcat
ParticipantColor ‘revolution’ in Nepal on Trump’s watch
He drives India and China together like Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid and like a petulant spoiled brat, throws a hissy fit to ‘get back at them’.
Oh, I forgot, thhe Deep Dipshit State® didn’t bother to inform him cause he just doesn’t matter…..
September 12, 2025 at 4:02 pm #195535jb-hb
ParticipantGuns do save lives. You know this to be true.
The raw yearly figures leftists like to cite for US gun violence are about the same as traffic accidents. Yet, when you suggest the same fervent pressure should be applied to abolishing cars as abolishing guns, you get dumb looks, followed by education on the religious, spiritual differences of the two things.
The dead people in traffic weren’t victims?
(how quickly we retract to the most spartan, minimalist definition of “victims of” when the argument is about disarming normal people where, just a second ago, it was like, the system man,like the culture, victimizing and we need to eliminate 1mm raising of white eyebrows because it might be aggression or racism….)
Their lives weren’t just as precious as people who got shot?
(denial PLUS education from holier-than-thou that yes people shot ARE more special, precious, holy-blessed… both at the same time!)
So then I point out that HALF of US gun deaths are suicide – weren’t you JUST A MINUTE BEFORE complimenting Canadian health care and the right to suicide? And americans figured out a quick, painless way to do it without all that bureucracy and taxes? Ohhh but if it is an individual deciding privately for themselves that’s wrong and guns make it ICKY. Gotcha
35k/yr -17.5k suicides = 17.5k deaths – 8,750 deaths that were criminals being shot by police or citizens in self defense = 8,750 deaths vs 35,000 traffic deaths a year.
I get that people who die from a bullet are surrounded in a holy penumbra and people who die in traffic are not, I understand this after you explained, but surely you aren’t saying people who die of a bullet are over FOUR TIMES more valuable than people who die in some other way? These are still PEOPLE with feelings and thoughts, dreams, families, a future that was cut off? Surely a bullet doesn’t make you 4x superior to all other humans???? Is 50 Cent like, 150000x superior to all other humans or did he need to die to achieve that?
Denial and MORE education of the thing that was just denied and I ought to believe and am icky for not believing. NO I am not saying they are more holy and you damn well better believe that they are.
So then I explain that they are ignoring 99% of Gun Violence.
Governments with monopolies on guns, purely by use of guns, killed 150 million in the 20th century alone. That doesn’t even count the tens of millions enslaved at gunpoint, the loss of free speech by hundreds of millions, the tens of millions of refugees created.
We SHOULD count the entire human cost of 99% of gun violence, but focusing on JUST deaths
150,000,000 deaths, which are NOT by any means a comprehensive figure on gun deaths / 8,750 deaths of victims from guns in the USA per year = IT WOULD TAKE 17,142 YEARS for US gun deaths to equal just the foreign gun deaths from 1920-1999.
And IN those 17,142 years, governments with gun monopolies would have racked up hundreds of millions of MORE gun deaths, enslavements, refugee crises, etc.
Face it, US gun deaths will never ever catch up to everyone else’s gun deaths.
Because armed citizens prevent gun deaths.
You don’t go with unlimited death instead of very limited death because you realized reality can never be absolutely perfect, that there are always trade-offs and you cannot possibly bear it. Unless you’re a fool or evil or both.
September 12, 2025 at 4:03 pm #195536Dr. D
ParticipantPress Conference, just this minute:
They got him! It was Trump on the grassy knoll!
It was The Donald all along…
September 12, 2025 at 4:08 pm #195537Dr. D
ParticipantSince it came up just this day: School Shootings are the same.
Like half? Are suicides on the property, accidentally discharged firearms and so on. Like “Gun Deaths” they know this isn’t true, that we MEAN something completely different by these words, they just don’t care.
I don’t have URL since it seems I need to save every URL I ever read these days.
HereLetMeGoogleThatForYou.com.
September 12, 2025 at 4:10 pm #195538jb-hb
Participant….but INDIVIDUAL decision and use of firearms is ICKY.
And as they WELL KNOW, the whole point of individual gun ownership IS to block Authority from committing gun violence, and resisting Authority and Experts is icky….
..use or mere existence of individual-ownership firearms is most icky indeed, intrinsically, since it limits Authority and Experts. (the ones who commit 99.9% of gun violence) Authority gun-monopoly hesitance. The ultimate ick.
September 12, 2025 at 4:39 pm #195539userzeroid
ParticipantOn reddit, ‘TheDeprogram’ is now banned. Any evidence there that Kirk was nuanced in his view upon “God’s chosen people ” s no longer publicly viewable. Interesting.
If further evidence also disappears on the internet over the next few hours and days, then this would be most telling, wouldn’t it?
September 12, 2025 at 4:39 pm #195540John Day
Participant@Phoenixvoice: I agree with your assessment of who needs to make difficult decisions in pregnancy, and the reasons why.
It is easy to make declarations from afar…
We must each be our own moral actors, which does not mean butting-out or going-along-with-the-crowd, either.September 12, 2025 at 4:41 pm #195541John Day
Participant@Userzeroid:
Benjamin Netanyahu insists Israel had nothing to do with Charlie Kirk’s assassination. He adds that anyone who believes otherwise is out of their mind. Netanyahu compares the rumor to the old accusations against Jews, like poisoning wells and drinking the blood of Christian children. https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1966321525306388605September 12, 2025 at 4:52 pm #195542Mr. House
ParticipantOMG someone at naked capitalism gets it (its not yves and she never will)
“Inflaming Tensions, Trump Threatens Political Left With Retribution Over Killing of Charlie Kirk”
if you’re able to comment at the site, i’d give this man a round of applause and make sure others see his post:
“Another thing going on here is that the broadly defined left does not appreciate the extent to which it enjoyed cultural dominance for the past half-century, and so cannot understand the degree that this is now gone everywhere except legacy media, academia and entertainment. Not understanding this, and rebelling at the very notion of it, goes along with not know who Charlie Kirk was or why his murder is a big deal… and far worse for the left than the right.
The dominance of broadly left liberal ideas produced a situation which students of colonialism will recognize: the colonized understood the colonizer much better than the latter understands the former. And themselves.
The broadly defined right is now no longer captive to milquetoast conservatism and more importantly is using tactics the left pioneered. Among these are the politicization of everything, a reflexive friend/enemy distinction, instant iconization and subsequent canonization of politically suitable deaths, and maniacal unconscious projection. The fact that many on the left actually believe they do not do any of this underscores their problem.
What all this means is that the left is now facing an opponent that operates much more like itself, but cannot see this because it cannot see itself clearly.”
September 12, 2025 at 5:00 pm #195543jb-hb
ParticipantThe instantaneous response that PRECEDED the response on the Right was the Left crying out for civility and accusing the Right of being everything bad the Left is.
They aren’t sincere yet about civil society and by their precognition, are aware of what they are doing.
All that is required to end what is coming – which the Left HOPES will mirror themselves, but won’t – is to LAY DOWN YOUR WEAPONS AND REJOIN CIVIL SOCIETY. Be fucking DECENT. Everything is downstream from culture. If you want the good things that are emergent from culture, you can “capture” them ALL for free, unlimited, in a totally NON zero sum game, by acculturating.
September 12, 2025 at 5:00 pm #195544chooch
ParticipantSeptember 12, 2025 at 5:04 pm #195545userzeroid
Participant@John Day
The disappearing evidence is indication of PR and perception management. Pieces of a puzzle.
Israel cannot afford to look bad right now. Kirk’s former statements in support of them must outlive any opinions that he had to the contrary.
I am not too sure that they might have been responsible so, as much as I despise Bibi, I must reserve my accusations for someone who is a more likely culprit. The NAFO guys seem a more likely match from where I’m standing.
September 12, 2025 at 5:10 pm #195546jb-hb
ParticipantWhat changed with Charlie Kirk being assassinated by the Left was, I am willing to say what the Left openly started saying a decade ago. Kneel Before Zod motherfuckers. Acculturate or flee to socialist shitholes or the deminished sociology depts of your shitty universities. And I am not talking about violence.
THEY say fighting is the evil, because they don’t want us to fight. But the values of the fighters and the reason for fighting are what actually, always matter. Which is why they point at fighting. And I am not talking about violence.
The difference between us is that they will like us when we win.
September 12, 2025 at 5:50 pm #195547kultsommer
Participant“French” culture goes way back….
Today is 85th anniversary of the discovery of Lascaux cave.
(As long as they do not document some “history” on their pages – wiki is bueno)September 12, 2025 at 6:41 pm #195548Maxwell Quest
ParticipantCharlie Kirk’s support for Israel:
Let’s put this in context, can we? I don’t know about you, but at the age of 30 I didn’t know my ass from a hold in the ground. Unless you were lucky enough to be born outside the Matrix, or your parents were well informed on the nature of the world, you were programmed to accept certain beliefs. I’m guessing that Charlie Kirk was no different. Even with a keen mind, it takes a great deal of life experience to start putting the pieces together. The development of the human mind is a process. It takes time, and volumes of input to synthesize the ideas that eventually supplant the original programming.
Just when was it that Jason obtained the golden fleece? At the beginning of the journey or the end?
Like the new prospector who sets out with his burro and shiny new pickaxe, he will walk over acres of raw diamonds in search of his fortune just over the horizon.
If Charlie Kirk was truly a lover of truth he would have eventually come around. Any dogma or false loyalty in his programming would have been jettisoned. He would have had his ‘dark night of the soul’ with its disillusionment and depression, and risen a new man.
Because his life was cut short, we will never know. I think he was well on his way, though. But like Socrates, he had a ‘corrupting’ influence on the youth, and therefore had to be eliminated.
September 12, 2025 at 6:55 pm #195549Dr D Rich
ParticipantCharlie Kirk is what JD Hamel Vance Bowman BLANTON wanted to be, A Spellbinder, both Have/Had Heads Made for TV.
Two bad signs, Ritter in his corner AND comms with Benjie Netanyahu, are not indicative of stable mental health nor nuanced attributes worthy of anyone’s FollowerShipspersonHood.
Two good things about Charlie ARE he apparently loved his two children and He made JD Vance BLANTON Bowman Hamel insanely jealous of the One Thing James Donald will never have, Appeal to Some Young People.
Nevertheless:
think of how utterly deranged this is. Israel routinely and intentionally kills Americans like Rachel Corrie, and the political class not only doesn’t condemn it, they keep funding, arming and bowing to it. And the media class doesn’t care at all. Zionists own the US and West-
they killed American aid workers like Jacob Flickinger during the ongoing genocide. The Israeli death-cult admitted they deliberately killed him. And it was immediately memory-holed by the Zionist media class. Here is his partner talking about how no one from the US government
…except The Zionists, what would they be without (((The Chosen People))))
September 12, 2025 at 7:14 pm #195550Dr D Rich
ParticipantIf you’re not sure what Ritter, the late Charlie Rich, my wife and Hamel JD Vance Bowman have in common
Coping with it:
September 12, 2025 at 7:49 pm #195553Dr D Rich
ParticipantGoing out on a limb here.
Civil War isn’t coming any time soon or ever in what remains of my Lifetime. Copyright Sept 12, 2025
Did a civil war bring China out of her economic doldrums? Some say lots of ppl died as they are wont to do. (((Cheers from D and the host)))
Btw, what’s wrong with friendship between the two largest nations on Earth, China v India, well, except of course U.S., NATO and The Israelites are on the outside looking in?
More:
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Netanyahu now claims, offering zero evidence, that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a combination of “radical Islamists and ultra-progressives.”
Israel using assassination to achieve a geopolitical objective? Why, I’ve never heard such a preposterous suggestion!” Holy shit this is wild.
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********Israel’s ambassador to the UN told the Security Council the apartheid state is prepared to launch strikes in any country in the world where it decides Hamas members may be hiding. Israel has used the same vague rationale to justify destroying more than 90% of Gaza’s housing
September 12, 2025 at 7:52 pm #195554Dr D Rich
Participantcont)
In that core that connects Israel and Zionists, there is only the Goodness of Jews and Judaism.
That sounds like cranio-rectal extraction surgery….so much nonsense.Is that where Charlie Kirk recently went afoul of Netty’s Nuts in Israel and The Zionist Projection?
Seems like a few posters noticed that too but attributed The Change to “a more nuanced view” from a not so nuanced guy, Charlie “Rich” KirkSeptember 12, 2025 at 8:03 pm #195555Dr D Rich
ParticipantCharlie Rich
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Charley Pride….if for nothing, else Charlie Kirk’s namesake.
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September 12, 2025 at 8:11 pm #195556Dr D Rich
ParticipantAnswer firstly:
Because they are not a protected class.
The police and FBI are supposed to fight crime and not first and foremost bend to the tendency to protect their own fat, comfortable, zit covered asses, you know, first and foremost.Oh and Confidential Informants and being agent provocateurs in the scheme
TCTH…..what a unit and dipshit my fella Catholic
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How can a group within America openly threaten police, use violence against police, throw Molotov cocktails, bricks and explosive fireworks at police. Use batons, shields, bats and physical violence against police and federal law enforcement; destroy vehicles, set cars on fire, destroy property, trash and block the streets and create chaos…. Completely without being stopped?
September 12, 2025 at 8:14 pm #195557kultsommer
ParticipantMaxwell
Let’s put this in context, can we? I don’t know about you, but at the age of 30 I didn’t know my ass from a hold in the ground.
Most of us were the same. Era before the internet.
CK had the exact same access to the live images from Gaza as anybody else, including the students that he “debated” .
In this era there is no excuse for being willful ignorant and promoting what is absolutely untrue borders with being evil. He may have been “pressured”, though.*****Maxwell….tdk…..the two combined brings memories to the 80’s :).
September 12, 2025 at 8:25 pm #195558Dr D Rich
ParticipantThis Spectacle is a distraction from something very big.
Is it this, a destruction of 4th Amendment Constitutional Rights by none other than The Supremes?
Who knew your job “is a protected right” AND at the same time be Fair Game under The At Will Workplace as part of Capitalism’s sense of corporate Governance.
There’s no Democracy in the workplace, stupid, or how else would there be profit for me.
First: The Fourth Amendment”, Sotomayor concluded, “prohibits exactly what the government is attempting to do here: ‘seize individuals based solely on a set of facts that ‘describes a very large category of presumably innocent’ people.”*******
Even if nothing else was taking place at this perilous moment, the September 8 SCOTUS decision to temporarily suspend both a presumption of innocence as well as the right, previously guaranteed by the 4th Amendment, not to be seized absent a reasonable suspicion of unlawful status, is deeply disturbing. Taken in context of recent events, the Court’s decision on the “shadow docket” poses an ominous threat.
The decision was handed down after the “dangerous sociopath”, President Donald J. Trump, threatened to arrest California Gov. Gavin Newsom, one of his chief political rivals. More importantly, perhaps, it was handed down shortly after Trump threatened to use the U.S. military to invade Chicago.
If the same SCOTUS majority goes on to temporarily suspend the Order issued on September 2nd by U.S. District Court Judge Charles E. Breyer, that enjoined Trump’s use of the military to engage in local law enforcement without the consent of State and local authorities — an action that Breyer ruled to be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act — it could hasten a bitter end to federalism and to our constitutional republic…
As Justice Sonia Sotomayor explained in a powerful dissent, joined Justices Kagan and Jackson, a U.S. District Court found “ample evidence” that Latinos, including both lawful residents and U.S. citizens, were swept-up in mass raids and incarcerated based solely on one or more of four enumerated factors: ethnicity, speaking Spanish or English with an accent, their location or the type of work they engaged in.
In accordance with the 4th Amendment, Sotomayor noted, the District Court issued a temporary restraining order that “enjoined [ICE] from conducting detentive stops…unless the agent or officer has reasonable suspicion that the person stopped is within the United States in violation of U.S. immigration law.” Both the District Court and the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals concluded that none of the four enumerated factors, alone or in combination, establish the “reasonable suspicion” needed to justify an arrest.
The Fourth Amendment…prohibits exactly what the Government is attempting to do here: seize individuals based solely on a set of facts that “describe(s) a very large category of presumably innocent” people.”
September 12, 2025 at 8:35 pm #195559Michael Reid
ParticipantSeptember 12, 2025 at 9:14 pm #195560John Day
ParticipantNot Hating The Other https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/not-hating-the-other
The Charlie Kirk assassination stories are breaking fast, and the primary suspect, Tyler Robinson 22, was convinced by his father to turn himself in. This means that many details will be forthcoming. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/charlie-kirk-shooter-manhunt-live-updates-rcna230762
There is video here if you scroll down halfway of a man in black running across the roof of the building and scampering down to the grass in back with a black bag that would hold a rifle broken down into 2 pieces, by the looks of it. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/day-3-charlie-kirks-assassin-still-large-new-footage-released-gop-demanding-probe-radical
There is a thread that the assassination was faked, but the crowd video that is provided with a video post asserting Holleywood faking, can be quickly frame-clicked through from 6:44 to see the shock to Kirk’s body, a left anterior neck, dark bullet entry wound, and then blood exiting that dark hole. I’m convinced it is real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw1Rdh8sOLM&rco=1
Here is a short video clip of Charlie explaining that when people stop communicating with each other they can depersonalize other groups and proceed to killing them. “When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence, that is when civil war happens” https://x.com/ChoooCole/status/1965874157004165495
September 12, 2025 at 9:14 pm #195561John Day
ParticipantFrom Sundance yesterday. This man had a very high IQ and perfect memory for details. The Incredible Articulation of Charles James Kirk
Sadly, I had not seen this video until after he was assassinated and it was shared on social media. That said, the intellectual capacity, the gift of articulation carried within the vessel Charlie Kirk represented, is evident in this video segment. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/09/11/the-incredible-articulation-of-charles-james-kirk/#more-275921Yesterday there was a video interview with Charlie Kirk that I put up, asserting that he had loosened up a lot on his support for Israeli genocide, was allowing alternate views to be voiced in debate, and was experiencing threats. It is no more on Reddit, today. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/1ndzmyb/charli_kirk_mentioned_he_was_getting_messages/
Benjamin Netanyahu insists Israel had nothing to do with Charlie Kirk’s assassination. He adds that anyone who believes otherwise is out of their mind. Netanyahu compares the rumor to the old accusations against Jews, like poisoning wells and drinking the blood of Christian children. https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1966321525306388605
Don’t be suckered into hating-the-“other”: From Bluesky To Reddit, Democrats Celebrate Charlie Kirk’s Assassination; Trump Slams Radical Left https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bluesky-reddit-democrats-celebrate-charlie-kirks-assassination-trump-declares-war-radical
Let’s find out more and not swallow Hate-Bait: Alleged Kirk Assassin A “Radical Left ANTIFA-Adjacent Creep” Wrote “Hey Fascist” On Bullet Casing
Earlier, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson turned himself in and named the shooting suspect in Kirk’s political assassination. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/day-3-charlie-kirks-assassin-still-large-new-footage-released-gop-demanding-probe-radicalSeptember 12, 2025 at 9:16 pm #195562John Day
ParticipantThat’s not so much, and it’s situational: 1 In 9 Americans Still Believe Political Violence Is Sometimes Justified Despite the major rift that exists between left and right, data shows that such acts of political violence are not tolerated by the vast majority of U.S. adults. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/11-americans-believe-political-violence-sometimes-justified
Russia and Belarus are having their yearly huge-war-games now: Russian media claims Poland sending troop columns to border with Belarus
Polish media outlets are calling the Russian claims about Polish troop movements “false” https://rmx.news/article/russian-media-claims-poland-sending-troop-columns-to-border-with-belarus/ Russia Denies That It Launched Drones Into Poland
Poland says NATO jets shot down multiple Russian drones and it invoked NATO’s Article 4 in response https://news.antiwar.com/2025/09/10/russia-denies-that-it-launched-drones-into-poland/2 days ago; surveillance drones: Poland has already found 12 drones – and none of them contain explosives https://en.topcor.ru/64074-v-polshe-nashli-uzhe-12-dronov-i-vse-oni-bez-vzryvchatki.html
Simplicius has lots of information: Russian Drones Allegedly Swarm Poland in Major Provocation…But Whose?
“Post from 09/08/2025 on the “Cartel” channel warning about the preparation of a provocation involving the sending of “pseudo-Russian” UAVs to the West. Actually, the plan was already carried out on September 10.”
But how do we reconcile the fact that Belarus essentially admitted that wayward Russian drones were flying to Poland with this false flag angle? More likely it was a combination of all possible tactics, from real jammed drones to “prepared” ones that were made to look like they originated from Russia, as well as an information campaign to distribute fakes like the earlier ‘destroyed home’.
One explanation:
In Poland, the wreckage of 12 Gerber UAVs was found during the day. All without a warhead, did not explode. Expensive missiles costing more than $ 2 million each were used to destroy some of them. In particular, the F-35A of the Dutch Air Force worked like this.
The most popular version is that the “Gerber” “mismatch” encountered a GPS blockade over one of Ukraine’s air defense areas and flew to Poland (spoofing?). Gerbers are not equipped with 16-element CRPA antennas (ed: these are the special 16-element Komet GPS receivers now regularly seen in Shahed/Geran drones).
According to the second version, the Gerbers were launched from Ukraine. This version is supported by the large number of Gerber products, which exceeds 1,000. This is not typical for them.
The intent is obvious: another desperate ploy from Zelensky to get NATO involved, even if in small stepwise fashion. https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/russian-drones-allegedly-swarm-polandSeptember 12, 2025 at 9:17 pm #195563John Day
ParticipantTrump Downplays Drone Incursion Into Poland As Likely ‘Mistake’, Angering NATO Allies
When asked about these claims, Trump responded that it “could have been a mistake… But regardless, I’m not happy about anything having to do with that whole situation. But hopefully it’s going to come to an end.”
Warsaw and NATO officials condemned the “act of aggression” which they along with Ukrainian officials asserted was an intentional provocation. Tusk said it was an “unprecedented” incursion into the sovereign territory of a NATO member. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-downplays-drone-incursion-poland-likely-mistake-angering-nato-allies In 2022, when Duda was the Polish President : Duda Belatedly Confirmed That Zelensky Tried To Manipulate Poland Into War With Russia
“They’ve been trying to drag everyone into the war from the very beginning. It’s obvious, it’s in their interest, and it would be best if they could drag NATO countries into the war. It’s obvious they’re looking for those who would actively fight on their side against the Russians. This has been happening since day one.” https://korybko.substack.com/p/duda-belatedly-confirmed-that-zelensky 9/11/25 Netanyahu Signs Off on Major West Bank Settlement Expansion, Says There ‘Will Be No Palestinian State’
At the signing ceremony, Smotrich said Israel will soon celebrate the annexation of the West Bank https://news.antiwar.com/2025/09/11/netanyahu-signs-off-on-major-west-bank-settlement-expansion-says-there-will-be-no-palestinian-state/ The Israelis will not allow for 3.3 million Palestinians to live in what the regime considers “Israel’s biblical heartlands”; they seek “Greater Israel” with as few Palestinians there as possible. https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/opinion/the-west-bank-is-on-the-verge-of-catastrophe
Including the US: UN Security Council condemns Israeli strikes targeting Qatar
UN Security Council members on Thursday condemned an Israeli attack on Qatar, and urged all sides to “seize the opportunity for peace,” while failing to name Israel.
“The members of the Security Council expressed their condemnation of the recent strikes in Doha, the territory of a key mediator, on 9 September,” said a statement by Council members, which conveyed “deep regret at the loss of civilian life.” “Council members underscored the importance of de-escalation and expressed their solidarity with Qatar,” it added.
Emphasizing support for Qatar’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, the statement said: “Council members recalled their support for the vital role that Qatar continues to play in mediation efforts in the region, and alongside Egypt and the United States.” https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/un-security-council-condemns-israeli-strikes-targeting-qatar/3685211September 12, 2025 at 9:18 pm #195564John Day
Participant Israel Bombed Qatar To Assassinate Hamas’s Lead Ceasefire Negotiators
The Israeli attack comes after Trump had put forward a proposal for a 60-day ceasefire that would see the release of all Israeli captives in the first 48 hours of the agreement. In exchange, negotiations to permanently end the war on Gaza would commence, with personal guarantees from the U.S. President that Israel would engage in the negotiations “in good faith.”
Trump’s proposal would also see Hamas relinquish control over Gaza and give up its arms. Hamas has repeatedly said that it is willing to relinquish control over the Strip and allow for an independent technocratic government to rule in its stead, but has maintained that disarming remains a “red line” for the group. https://scheerpost.com/2025/09/10/israel-bombed-qatar-to-assassinate-hamass-lead-ceasefire-negotiators/Trump Claims He Was ‘Blindsided’ By Qatar Attack In ‘Heated Call’ With Netanyahu https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-claims-he-was-blindsided-qatar-attack-heated-call-netanyahu
Qatar says Netanyahu must be ‘brought to justice’ over strikes https://www.arabnews.com/node/2614847/middle-east
Netanyahu says Qatar must expel or prosecute ‘terrorists’ on its soil – or Israel will https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250910-live-un-security-council-to-hold-emergency-meeting-on-israel-s-qatar-attack
UAE Strongly Condemns Netanyahu’s Hostile Statements Against Qatar https://english.aawsat.com/gulf/5185264-uae-strongly-condemns-netanyahu%E2%80%99s-hostile-statements-against-qatar
September 12, 2025 at 9:19 pm #195565John Day
Participant (Implied) Turkey In Netanyahu’s Crosshairs For Harboring Hamas, After Qatar Strike
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has defended a recent airstrike on what Israel says was a Hamas headquarters in Doha, comparing the October 7 attacks to the September 11 terror attacks in the United States. The speech was given in the middle of this week, just before the 24th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, warning that Hamas leaders will be hunted down wherever they are located, and putting countries like Qatar and even Turkey on notice.
Turkey has long expressed support to Hamas leadership. Though Netanyahu did not directly name Turkey, observers interpreted his remarks as a veiled threat to Ankara, which has long hosted senior Hamas officials. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-netanyahus-crosshairs-harboring-hamas-after-qatar-strike Tensions rise as Egypt rejects Netanyahu’s remarks on Rafah crossing
Israeli media outlets, including the news site Mekomet, have reported that war between Israel and Egypt is increasingly viewed as only a matter of time.
According to these reports, there is a strong public and political feeling in Egypt that an open conflict with Israel may soon erupt, following provocative comments by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about opening the Rafah Crossing to allow Palestinians to leave Gaza. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250911-tensions-rise-as-egypt-rejects-netanyahus-remarks-on-rafah-crossing/ Israeli Military Kills More Than 70 in Gaza as It Continues Its Campaign of Destruction in Gaza City
The Health Ministry said it recorded another five starvation deaths in Gaza over 24 Hours https://news.antiwar.com/2025/09/10/israeli-military-kills-more-than-50-in-gaza-as-it-continues-its-campaign-of-destruction-in-gaza-city/Israeli Attacks and Starvation Kill 79 More Palestinians in Gaza Over 24 Hours – The IDF continues to kill desperate Palestinians seeking aid https://news.antiwar.com/2025/09/11/israeli-attacks-and-starvation-kill-79-more-palestinians-in-gaza-over-24-hours/
Israeli warplanes launch airstrikes on Yemen, killing 35 – At least 131 injured, homes damaged in strikes on Sanaa and Al-Jawf, say Houthis https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/israeli-warplanes-launch-airstrikes-on-yemen-killing-35/3683875
September 12, 2025 at 9:20 pm #195566John Day
Participant Death Toll in Israeli Airstrikes on Yemen Rises to 46, Including 11 Women and 5 Children
The Houthis, officially known as Ansar Allah, announced more attacks on Israel on Thursday https://news.antiwar.com/2025/09/11/death-toll-in-israeli-airstrikes-on-yemen-rises-to-46-including-11-women-and-5-children/Murdering children haunts you: Israeli soldier who fought in Gaza commits suicide on his wedding day, exposing army’s deep crisis https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250910-israeli-soldier-who-fought-in-gaza-commits-suicide-on-his-wedding-day-exposing-armys-deep-crisis/
WHO says to remain in Gaza City despite Israel’s call to leave https://www.arabnews.com/node/2614867/middle-east
UN warns of mass displacements as Israel orders civilians out of Gaza City
‘Issuing displacement orders does not absolve parties to a conflict of their responsibilities to protect civilians in the conduct of their hostilities,’ says spokesperson https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/un-warns-of-mass-displacements-as-israel-orders-civilians-out-of-gaza-city/3684057 Israel intensifies bombardment of Gaza City, leveling high-rise towers to push residents south
Strikes hit high-rise buildings and crowded shelters as Palestinians warn of systematic displacement plan https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-intensifies-bombardment-of-gaza-city-leveling-high-rise-towers-to-push-residents-south/3683995September 12, 2025 at 9:21 pm #195567John Day
Participant “Israel” maintains plausible deniability: On the night of September 8-9, just after midnight, a boat that is part of a flotilla carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza was struck by an incendiary device off the coast of Tunisia. Members of the Global Sumud Flotilla say they heard a drone flying three or four metres above their heads before the device hit, causing a fire that damaged the boat but caused no injuries. A drone expert said that such devices can be dropped by commercially available consumer drones. https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250909-gaza-flotilla-drone-attack-expert-analysis-greta-thunberg
Amnesty International urges EU states to suspend trade with Israeli settlements
‘Member states must do everything to ensure Germany and Italy do not block the proposals. They should follow Ireland, Slovenia, Belgium and Spain and take individual measures, including suspension of trade with settlements,’ says Amnesty EU https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/amnesty-international-urges-eu-states-to-suspend-trade-with-israeli-settlements/3683883EU halts payments to Israel, moves toward sanctions over Gaza genocide https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250910-eu-halts-payments-to-israel-moves-toward-sanctions-over-gaza-genocide/
All of Iran’s demands met in new deal with IAEA: Araghchi https://en.mehrnews.com/news/236315/All-of-Iran-s-demands-met-in-new-deal-with-IAEA-Araghchi
Whistleblower Video: Unidentified Flying Object Survives U.S. Missile Attack
Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO) has unveiled jaw-dropping footage showing U.S. MQ-9 Reaper drones attempting to shoot down an unidentified flying object off the coast of Yemen in October 2024. The never-before-seen video, provided to Congress by a courageous whistleblower, marks the first known instance of a Reaper engaging an aerial target in a real-world operation, raising urgent questions about what’s lurking in our skies. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/whistleblower-video-unidentified-flying-object-survives-us-missile-attackSeptember 12, 2025 at 9:22 pm #195568John Day
Participant French Government Collapse Signals Rising Eurozone Debt Risk
Bayrou took responsibility for the dire state of French public finances and attempted to impose a fiscal consolidation program. With public debt at 114% of GDP and a net borrowing forecast of 5.4% for this year, the plan included €44 billion in spending cuts, frozen pensions, and the reduction of two public holidays—measures intended as a lifeline for the struggling economy. https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/french-government-collapse-signals-rising-eurozone-debt-risk“Looking Into Soros. Looks Like RICO”: Trump Puts Crosshairs On Radical Leftist NGOs https://www.zerohedge.com/political/looking-soros-looks-rico-trump-puts-crosshairs-radical-leftist-ngos
ActBlue Lawyers Subpoenaed As House GOP Investigation Into Donor Fraud Intensifies https://www.zerohedge.com/political/actblue-lawyers-subpoenaed-house-gop-investigation-donor-fraud-intensifies-0
Thune Moves Forward With ‘Nuclear Option’ To Confirm Trump’s Nominees https://www.zerohedge.com/political/thune-moves-forward-nuclear-option-confirm-trumps-nominees
Police numbers met or exceeded protesters: ‘Our voices just aren’t heard’: ‘Block Everything’ protesters meet heavy police response in Paris
Police came down hard on scattered groups of protesters trying to block critical roads and infrastructure in Paris on Wednesday to protest government austerity measures as France’s fifth prime minister in under two years took office. Demonstrators said they were frustrated with successive governments that changed names and faces – but not policy. https://www.france24.com/en/france/20250910-french-protest-block-everything-meets-heavy-police-response-parisSeptember 12, 2025 at 9:23 pm #195569John Day
Participant Conor McGregor Slams Government ‘Traitors’ Pushing to Replace Irish With Migrants.
UFC legend and Irish presidential contender Conor McGregor has slammed Ireland’s Finance Minister as a “traitor” for saying mass migration is needed to solve Ireland’s demographic problems...
..“Get this Ireland, we need more people hurriedly brought in, under full government subsidy, in order to support the hordes we are currently bringing in, on full government subsidy,” McGregor sarcastically observed. https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/09/10/conor-mcgregor-slams-government-traitors-pushing-to-replace-irish-with-migrants/ Martin Armstrong: The Motive for Nepal’s Revolution
The final straw for the revolution in Nepal was the government’s attempt to stifle free speech by banning social media platforms. These events did not take place because a few kids had their tablets taken away. Extreme government corruption ran rampant for years while the elite lived luxurious lifestyles in spite of the people they ruled over.
The Nepalese government attempted to prevent the people from freely voicing their growing discontent, and then, when the people attempted to protest, the government murdered over 20 school-aged children in cold blood.
The media has poorly portrayed the cause of events by calling it the “Gen Z” revolution, sparked by a social media ban, which is entirely misleading, as the culprit was corruption and poverty. One in four citizens lives below the poverty line, with the average Nepali earning $1,400 USD annually. The poorest 20% spend around 67% of their income on food, and, much like most nations, in 2025, the majority is struggling to maintain the cost of living. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/the-motive-for-nepals-revolution/”Just when I had that horse trained to eat plain sawdust, he up and died on me”: EU to speed up phase out of Russian energy amid US pressure https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/09/11/eu-to-speed-up-phase-out-of-russian-energy-amid-us-pressure
EU rejects US request to impose tariffs on China and India for Russian oil https://en.topcor.ru/64073-evrosojuz-otverg-prosbu-ssha-vvesti-tarify-protiv-kitaja-i-indii-za-rossijskuju-neft.html
Venezuela wants the little-country’s oil, and the US wants it all: U.S. Jets Deployed to Guyana as Oil Boom Raises Caribbean Stakes https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/US-Jets-Deployed-to-Guyana-as-Oil-Boom-Raises-Caribbean-Stakes.html
September 12, 2025 at 9:23 pm #195570John Day
ParticipantMike Mihajlovic has extensive military technical detail in this analysis: US vs Venezuela: a new Caribbean Crisis -“Enforcing Democracy While Taking the Oil” https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/us-vs-venezuela-a-new-caribbean-crisis
China’s gallium grip squeezing and eroding US military’s edge
China’s near-monopoly on critical mineral tilting military chip balance while US desperately seeks alternative supplies https://asiatimes.com/2025/09/chinas-gallium-grip-squeezing-and-eroding-us-militarys-edge/ China unveils ‘world’s first’ brain-like AI that runs 100 times faster than rivals
The model is especially good at handling long strings of data. https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/china-unveil-brain-like-aiMish Shedlock has graphs and explanations, How Much Money Have Trump’s Tariffs Raised? What’s the Impact? https://mishtalk.com/economics/how-much-money-have-trumps-tariffs-raised-whats-the-impact/
Perceived Importance of College Hits Record Low 35 Percent https://mishtalk.com/economics/perceived-importance-of-college-hits-record-low-35-percent/
September 12, 2025 at 9:24 pm #195571John Day
ParticipantEducation Department Ends College Grants Tied To Racial Thresholds https://www.zerohedge.com/political/education-department-ends-college-grants-tied-racial-thresholds
Just 1 in 4 Americans believe Trump administration vaccine shifts are based on science, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/just-1-4-americans-believe-trump-administration-vaccine-shifts-are-based-science-2025-09-10/
Vax Stocks Tumble As Trump Admin To Link COVID Shots To Child Deaths https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/vax-stocks-tumble-trump-admin-link-covid-shots-child-deaths
Trump Targets Big Pharma With Prescription Drug Advertising Crackdown https://redstate.com/rusty-weiss/2025/09/10/trump-targets-big-pharma-with-prescription-drug-advertising-crackdown-n2193771
Certainly prevalent in Austin: COVID-19 Levels Peaking Across The US, CDC Figures Show https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/covid-19-levels-peaking-across-us-cdc-figures-show
September 12, 2025 at 9:25 pm #195572John Day
ParticipantEvil captures public-hospital profit-centers with lies and bribery: Chicago Hospital’s Closure Is a Canary in the Coal Mine for Corporatized Health Care
If there is one lesson to be learned from the story of the private equity acquisition of hospitals, it is that there is a fundamental contradiction at the heart of this endeavor: While communities expect these entities to prioritize their interests over profits, as corporate entities, private equity firms are set up to prioritize profits. Invariably, the path of private equity ownership seems to end with hospital precarity or closure. If the vulnerable populations served by a safety-net hospital such as Weiss are to be served, why not circumvent this process and convert hospitals such as Weiss to public hospitals operated by the county, or at least by a nonprofit entity such as a university? https://scheerpost.com/2025/09/10/chicago-hospitals-closure-is-a-canary-in-the-coal-mine-for-corporatized-health-care/Censoring preprints now: MDPI Censors One of the World’s Most-Read Preprints Showing mRNA Shots Disrupt Thousands of Genes
With over 34,000 views and 8,600 downloads, our study discovered long-lasting genetic disruption from mRNA shots—only to be unethically censored by the Bio-Pharmaceutical Complex. https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-mdpi-censors-one-of-theSeptember 12, 2025 at 10:04 pm #195573Celticbiker
ParticipantHow do you shut people up about Epstein or Gaza? You shoot some poor sonofabitch and break out the jew media mindfuck machine, it;s easy. Easy as printing $.
September 12, 2025 at 10:10 pm #195574aspnaz
ParticipantDr D Rich said
TCTH says Charlie Kirk has “skillset” that will be hard to replace….talking versus writing now there’s projection of the inner object state.
ie. What I can’t do you can’t do either! How did he just do it?Absolutely. It is nonsense talk. And everybody avoids Kirk’s true identity and what motivated him; he was first and foremost an evangelical christian.
September 12, 2025 at 10:16 pm #195575aspnaz
ParticipantJohn Day said
@Aspnaz:Persia had over 5000 years of civilization.
Indeed. China had the same. China developed itself. Saudi and Qatar spent billions hiring muslim asians to be their slaves so that they did not have to do any of the hard work. They imported workers rather than turn their own people into first class workers. Having worked in Saudi I have seen it first hand, despite all the money, the country is a third world shit hole. The leaders have no ambitions for their countries, they just tick over and nothing much happens. Sure, MBS (the ultimate trust fund kid) talks about building modern cities in northern Saudi, but that will not change the people into a first world nation. I suspect this has much more to do with strict enforcement of their religion than with their nomadic past.
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