Debt Rattle September 12 2025
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September 12, 2025 at 10:21 am #195494
Topcat
ParticipantI think Trump finally understands that Ukraine is no longer a nation.
It’s a graveyard with a flag.
Trump hates being a loser and will distance himself at that specter at all costs.
That’s why reverting to the USSA’s default mode of acting like a corrupt, criminal cowardly mafioso in Venezuela will happen just as Ukraine cracks like an egg on a hot grill will be a go to diversion for Trump and the Deep Dipshit State.
Weak minds think alike.
And always remember in Trump’s America…September 12, 2025 at 10:24 am #195495Topcat
ParticipantTrump always Lies, but always in a Good Way©
Epstein Score Card
9/12/25
Grand Juries: Zero
Indictments: Zero
Arrests: Zero
Convictions: Zero
Sentences: ZeroSeptember 12, 2025 at 10:26 am #195496Topcat
ParticipantThe right to life
Your mileage may vary………September 12, 2025 at 10:29 am #195497Topcat
ParticipantScottish Girl Pauses to Reflect
September 12, 2025 at 11:25 am #195498those darned kids
Participant” President Trump just announced he will be posthumously awarding Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom”
“I come not to bury charlie, but to exploit him*.”
*pssst, that’s why we killed him….
September 12, 2025 at 11:32 am #195499those darned kids
Participantholy crap, cop!
can’t you smell a false flag!?
sheesh, if they’ll kill thousands in new york city, poison the british royal family and give the world to blackrock on a lithium platter,
¿¡¿DON’T YA THINK THEY’D KILL SOMEONE NAMED CHARLIE?!?
September 12, 2025 at 11:34 am #195500those darned kids
Participant““When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence, that is when civil war happens”
well, they sure stopped charlie from talking because THEY WANT THE CIVIL WAR.
September 12, 2025 at 11:40 am #195501those darned kids
Participant“Charlie was the best of us”.
no, he was a misguided young man with passion. killing babies is not something any sane person can support.
but now he’s dead and the people whom he misguidedly supported have killed him.
September 12, 2025 at 11:42 am #195502those darned kids
Participant• US Is
Suffering An Epidemic of LeftistViolenceSeptember 12, 2025 at 11:55 am #195503Topcat
ParticipantEt Tu Saudi
September 12, 2025 at 12:14 pm #195504Dora
ParticipantGlenn Greenwald about the public reaction to the Kirk assassination.
September 12, 2025 at 12:20 pm #195506zerosum
ParticipantEMULSIFIER FOR PEACE
(helper: copilot)– Salad Dressing: Oil and vinegar (mostly water) separate unless shaken or emulsified.
What You’ll Observe
– Layering: Oil floats because it’s less dense than water.
– Temporary Emulsion: If you shake the mixture, you’ll get a cloudy blend for a few seconds. But soon, the oil and water will separate again.
– Stable Mixing? Only possible with an emulsifier—like dish soap or egg yolk—which has molecules that can bond with both oil and water.If oil and water represent polarized political views—say, Democrats and Republicans—then an emulsifier would be something that helps them mix, even temporarily.
1. Civil Discourse
– Like lecithin in mayonnaise, respectful conversation can bind opposing views.
– It doesn’t erase differences, but it creates a space where ideas can coexist.
2. Shared Facts
– Think of nonpartisan journalism or peer-reviewed data as the stabilizer.
– When both sides agree on the reality they’re discussing, it’s easier to find common ground.
3. Bipartisan Legislation
– Policies crafted with input from both parties—like infrastructure bills—act as real-world emulsifiers.
4. Science & Innovation
– Issues like climate change or public health often transcend ideology.
– Scientific consensus can serve as a neutral base that both sides can build on.
Bonus Analogy: Egg Yolk
– Just as egg yolk binds oil and water in a vinaigrette, maybe education or community service could bind political ideologies—by focusing on shared values like fairness, opportunity, and safety.Emulsifiers for Peace—if peace and conflict are like oil and water, then what helps them blend, even temporarily? Let’s explore the metaphorical “emulsifiers” that help build and sustain peace across cultures, ideologies, and histories.
1. Empathy and Humanization
– In conflict, people often see the “other” as a threat. Emulsifiers like empathy, storytelling, and shared experiences help restore the sense of shared humanity.
– Peacebuilders use personal narratives to dissolve stereotypes and foster connection.
2. Dialogue and Diplomacy
– Just as egg yolk binds oil and water, dialogue binds opposing sides.
It’s not just talking—it’s listening, reframing, and validating.
– 3. Shared Goals and Interdependence
– Economic cooperation, environmental protection, and public health are areas where nations find common ground.
– These shared interests act like lecithin—a natural emulsifier—creating bonds that transcend conflict.
4. Education and Cultural Exchange
– Programs that promote cross-cultural understanding, such as student exchanges or joint research, help reduce fear and build trust.
– These initiatives are slow-acting emulsifiers, but their effects are long-lasting.
5. Symbolic Acts and Rituals
– – Peace treaties, joint memorials, or even shared meals can serve as emotional emulsifiers.
– They create moments of unity, even in the aftermath of violence.Peace isn’t passive—it’s engineered. And like any good emulsion, it requires constant stirring.
———–September 12, 2025 at 12:58 pm #195507John Day
ParticipantTrumpf says they caught the guy and he hopes he gets death…https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/trump-says-kirk-shooter-in-custody
September 12, 2025 at 1:13 pm #195508zerosum
Participant• ‘You Are the Hate’: Anna Paulina Luna Rips Dems (Salgado)
“I am done with the rhetoric this rotten House and corrupt media has caused,” she declared. “EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU WHO CALLED US FASCISTS DID THIS.” The congresswoman declared,
“You were too busy doping up kids, cutting off their genitals, inciting racial violence by supporting orgs that exploit minorities, protecting criminals, and stirring hate.
YOU ARE THE HATE you claim to fight.”
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“the left-wing mainstream media, as well as figures like Gavin Newsom claiming Trump plans to be dictator, has created a climate of hysteria against right-wing figures that could radicalize any number of unstable people to engage in political violence.”————
“We have a poisonous environment today on social media, on the mainstream media, and in society in general, where people are physically threatened because of the words they speak,” he said.
“It’s OK to be offended by people’s speech,” Ritter added. “What is not okay is to demonize people to the extent that [you argue] America would be better off without these ideas being articulated.”
The gunman shot Kirk at a publicly accessible venue.
————• Why Did Qatar’s Air Defenses Fail During Israel’s Attack? (Sp.)
The missiles fired by Israel could have been intercepted by Qatar’s US Patriot systems. Russian military expert Yuri Knutov weighs in: the Patriots were simply turned off by the US.
“The main feature of these systems is their close integration with airborne early warning and control aircraft (AWACS), satellites, and command centers that provide targeting data,” Knutov tells Sputnik. “In addition, they have a [remote] shutdown feature to prevent accidental friendly fire.
” This shutdown feature is problematic: Turkiye refused to purchase the Patriot specifically because the American side could disable these systems at any moment, and therefore preferred the S-400, according to the pundit.
Apart from using Patriots, Qatar hosts the US’ largest military base in the Middle East.
——–September 12, 2025 at 1:13 pm #195509kultsommer
ParticipantI know that man has not been laid to rest jet, but this needs an explanation.
September 12, 2025 at 1:28 pm #195510those darned kids
Participant“he hopes he gets death…”
paging mr ruby, paging mr ruby..
September 12, 2025 at 1:37 pm #195511John Day
ParticipantTrump said the man’s dad turned him in: https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1966481194398208458
September 12, 2025 at 1:39 pm #195512Dr. D
Participant“The Trump weapons deliveries to Ukraine are a pure sham George Galloway”
Wow. So shocked.
“Europe demands US confront Russia after decoy drones fly over Poland
The Duran•22K views•3 hours agoThey make it more and more obvious. Ummm…Poland? You’re a NATO member and a lot closer to (checks notes) Poland than we are. Germany? You’re right behind, ALSO a teeeny bit closer than Andrews AFB. You got this, bud?
Oh that’s right: you make air-sounds with your lie-hole, and we do the work.
President message: Circulating that one is AI generated, where the President’s hands change on film. Problem: Have to track down the source footage and STILL wouldn’t know what it means. Just was too busy, did an audio in a messy boardroom, told the crew to dress it up? Equally likely: somebody did this. More likely: somebody just SAID it exists and it doesn’t.
Welcome to the Post-Truth reality. Even if you see it, it isn’t true.
Similar is happening with Kirk footage. No gears engage. Guys near stage are hand signaling, calling it all a pro hit. (seemed Butler also) Um.. If WE can see how clear that is, the FBI can DEFINITELY see it. This is Charlie’s bodyguards presumably, who WOULD have such signals…to each other, not a shooter. Sense? The guy hand signalling was 6 inches BEHIND Kirk, in the line of fire even with a through shot. Use your head.
Then calling a 200 yard shot a pro hit. It’s in the middle, it’s a qualifying military shot, a western hunting shot. Otoh, he did hit this with the first shot, and had to. Otoh, it’s reasonable he was aiming head or torso and missed. That’s not Pro shot, again that’s mid-shot training. Gun graffiti is “Orgy of evidence” stuff. MI6, I’m insulted. They think Rednecks are so stupid and violent that they have to spray paint “We’re un Trans” and “Dun gone dis way” on the wall for us to get it.
And by “Get It”, one account Screaming “He was just TALKING!!! WHY, WHY would you do this????” Uhhh, to get EXACTLY this reaction out of exactly YOU? So you go shoot Leftists and start a Civil War? This is what MI6, World Intel Lettermen DO for a living, if you hadn’t noticed.
There was a guy creating an open distraction, seeming on purpose, and a guy screaming “Shoot ME, shoot ME!” to the Police. No joke. You guys want to explain what you were doing? ‘Cause I’m going to be looking at you very, very closely.
Now they’ll have to kill AOC and claim the “Right” did it. Keeps 912 and Israel out of the news, who Kirk was turning on. Ukraine/Europe are out since they boffed it as this displaced their idiotic foray into NATO attacking Russia over some FF Drones. They’d never have screwed up the timing that badly.
Anyway, point is, all evidence, evidence may mean nothing, not be real, and nobody’s thinking. Problem with emotion. I’m not saying my way is better but it’s better when it comes to cold figuring who dun what and why, which is the first step in getting the Bad Guys. And not collapsing yourself into counter-accusations and war.
Do I think TrannyFa probably shot him? Sure, why not? And MI6 found, drugged, paid, and trained him. Which is difficult to prove. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsIme9dGSJc
It’s impossible! Where would we find anyone that colossally STUPID???
So this is not “We” did this. Left or Right. There are so many violent Leftists that they’re reduced to manufacturing them – very badly – out of whole cloth. Like where TMZ can find zero examples of racism, and have to headline that a black person on TV wasn’t allowed to speak first. …They spoke second. Therefore race slavery still exists, kill whitey. That’s it. That’s your body of evidence?
If it’s not “US”, where “We” are fighting back and forth, then it’s just MI6 blowing millions to find a couple nutters who would just be working at a Stop-n-shop. Yeah. We know. There are more than 5 lunatics in a country of 300M if you have your top scientists feed them LSD and T to make them violent. No s—t. That has nothing to do with “Us.” That’s a YOU thing.
Btw, they’re missing, not saying the main thing. WHY? Kirk was the TOP organizing corporation for Republican vote, especially on college campuses, one of their last holdouts, by which they would lose an entire generation and not get back in for 70 more years.
Stop. Not Kirk the Man. Kirk the Machine, the corporation, the Party. And bc of the way it was structured, he was integral to it and that machine WILL be very disabled by his death. ‘Nuff said. If you’re MI6, THIS is why you do it. Picking 9-10, traumatizing young people and sending a message by doing in in front of his children is just a HOW you do it. “They murdered him because he was effective.” Yes, so act like that is true when you think next, conclude “who dun it” and why, who your neighbor is.
“The spiritual battle is coming to the West and the enemies are woke-ism or Marxism combining with Islamism to go after what we call the American way of life.”
Interesting. So what about those two is incompatible with America or the West? If you’re an Oligarch, Why choose them and not Confucianism, etc.?
I like that the first three pieces today were written by women.”
After 20 years of importing their own rapists and destroying their own peers and children, we are finally getting a drift of women rejecting this. Or at least, not HIDING that they reject this and speaking in public. We’ve been saying so and in public and being shot to pieces all along.
Like the Democrats similarly coming over, we really need them to come over a lot FASTER, in a very big way.
“Forty-eight percent of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. Fifty-five percent said the same about Donald Trump.”
I can vouch for these numbers. Let’s say they’re a little high, it’s only 40%. That’s still nearly everyone you meet wants open murder given half a chance. Anyone they don’t like. No trials. “Punch a Nazi”.
Why? They had trials. I ask, “So if he’s all that, why isn’t he convicted and in prison, are the Democrats running Trump, is he their man, they found him guilty but released him?” Blank eyes. “I want to kill him though.” Okaaaay…and the reason what, exactly? “He should die.” Name the specific event or crime that caused you feel this way? Walk away/Ban. From my Personal experience and interactions.
“We kill Nazis!” Uh…great? “We also define EVERYONE as a Nazi, including you!” Wait: what? As JB says, always attacking language, changing definitions. But it’s just a teeeeeny leetle change! Vaccine = Not Vaccine. Just some footnotes. Go to court when all the words are changed to Bizzaro-Land. (Armstrong yesterday, the NYC 2nd Judge just CHANGED ALL THE TRANSCRIPTS, ‘coz that’s just a thing they do there.)
““Your words caused this. Your hate caused this. Charlie.”
Again: Sort of. Yes, this hate, we can see, in our own family (many commenting online they see this gloating in loved ones) is real. But I’ll be shocked if the shooting itself is organic. They run the hate to COVER a Intel-Agency Oligarch Hit. They make him Trans to COVER it. The Right, America, just eat it up and let them. Don’t’ be a punk.
“• Charlie Kirk Assassin Picked Spot Very Carefully (NYP)
Yes but it’s not amazing. Neither the escape nor the shot. I’m focused on what they aren’t: he did this on the FIRST bullet. That’s something. So he had to zero the gun (somewhat badly) before. Deep premeditation. And planned the escape, clearly and well, doing okay but not great to dodge cameras. No gun in the camera shot: pre-placed. By an accomplice. Exactly pros snap-training a minion. Angry Tran would be EMOTIONAL. Focused on the bullet-side, making mistakes, not planning the escape fully, bc everyone is in motion like a beehive then.
“• The Incredible Articulation of Charles James Kirk (CTH)
It comes from years of having practiced only this, which cannot be replaced. He wasn’t always this articulate. He was just okay and it took 500,000 people-exchanges to get here. That’s why you can’t just pick the next guy. Same with making Kamala out of Clinton. Sorry, Bill just had natural talent and a lot more practice; you can’t.
“• Ukrainians Online Celebrate Charlie Kirk’s Shooting Death (RT)
Can’t have been responsible or they wouldn’t have botched the Polish attack FF>
“• Medvedev Warns MAGA Of Left-Wing Banderite Scum After Charlie Kirk Murder (ZH)
Note he is saying Nazis are LEFTISTS here. But but!!! No, that is correct. Is it only Americans who don’t know that? What National SOCIALIST means?
“Europe is one spark away from exploding. Europe is a perennial battlefield.
“Three World Wars”. To utter exhaustion. I heard an American post the same thing, I didn’t write to ask if that’s where he got it from or if it was just that obvious. All against all, to exhaustion. THEN we release the Mahdi who brings the Peace we paid trillions to prevent. Again, WE, the People, are not doing this. THEY, the Oligarchs and planners, MI6, WEF is. “Humans are violent scum”. Apparently not! Not if it takes this much effort.
“operate freely against the Hamas delegation invited to Qatar for negotiations. The US was fully aware of this.”
As I say often. But also WHO in the U.S.? I also say often.
Well that’s easy! There is only one man in the U.S. and so Donald Trump was called on the phone last Saturday, put it on his calendar, then sent the memo down to MECom Pentagon, and personally shut off every Patriot missile. We all know this is true because “I had thoughts in my head” about it.
Could that have happened? Sure, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all. But other things are equally likely.
In a world where EVERY General just defies direct orders and refuses to withdraw from Syria and Afghanistan. Oh wait, it’s an odd-numbered day, that never happened now.
Politico puts on Hasan Piker immediately:
“I also go to protests, I get shot at by cops.” Uhhh, whut?“What do you think it said about Charlie Kirk that he thought debate was one of the ways to release that pressure valve?
I don’t think he was ever debating for the purpose of finding the truth or from a position of intellectual curiosity. I think a lot of people say that. Debates are only productive in the sense that it can test your opinions against your interlocutors’ opinions, and it’s good, it’s galvanizing.”So talking is pointless. Fascists only understand violence I guess. Shoot without warning.
“I think it’s good, and maybe even productive, to have this kind of back-and-forth discourse to show what his worldview looks like and to test it against mine.” Why if no one can change? If talking does nothing?
Again, it’s not that he feels this way, it’s that he feels/says BOTH ways, which are Opposites.
“And then I think political persecution, as well. I mean, Trump just came out and released a video in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, where he said, “We’re going to go after the left. We’re going to go after everyone that’s demonized the right,” while also simultaneously saying, “We’re going to do this in the spirit of free speech.” Which is interesting, because I feel like he’s spelling out a clear-cut violation of the constitutional protections afforded to every American.” –Hasan. That is true. But actions seldom match his words.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/09/11/charlie-kirk-killing-hasan-piker-interview-00557837September 12, 2025 at 1:44 pm #195513John Day
Participant@Kultsommer: Well, there was a video yesterday, but not today, on Reddit, of Charlie Kirk having problems with threats and intimidation after backing away from the zionist justifications of genocide…
“TJ” from Caitlin’s comments: I think the Deep state Killed Charlie Kirk. Either Mossad or the CIA or some part of the American government. I also now believe the Trump shooting was staged.
Charlie Kirk used to be a Israel loyalist. He feared that Israel would kill him if he started criticizing Israel, not much, but when you have sold your soul, even a bad word means you crossed the line. He let anti-zionists speak at his events. Someone shoots at his neck, and it wasn’t your average civilian. It looked professional. The suspect arrested turned out to be a decoy so the real shooter could run away, this was carefully planned. Benjamin Netanyahu tweets about it just minutes after… But…Why?
It happened just hours ago and we barely know anything, but he was the perfect victim at the perfect time. 9/11 remembrance is tomorrow, and you can expect every social media and political figure for the next days to say “LOOK AT WHAT THE LEFTISTS HAD DONE TO THIS COUNTRY” Or something like that. They will undoubtly martyrize his death to clear the path for more extremist figures, don’t forget at any moment that divide and conquer is their specialty.
More evidence of Charlie’s tepid anti-zionism: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/1ndzmyb/charli_kirk_mentioned_he_was_getting_messages/September 12, 2025 at 1:45 pm #195514aspnaz
ParticipantWhy is Iran developed and Qatar still a feudal shithole? Iran got rid of their leaders who were trust fund kids, they got rid of their over-privileged Shah and his useless children. They decided that the country would be better off without them, and they were right.
Qatar is still being run by trust fund kids, same in Saudi, which is why they are both shitholes, spending their oil money but too stupid to turn themselves into properly developed nations. Trust fund kids are the worst, just look at Trump and the rest of them; Mr Bone Spurs the coward who would not fight for his country is now POTUS and some very, very dumb people are expecting results.
Qatar deserves the contempt of Israel, they are cowards and should be treated as such, the Americans obviously share my view that people who are stupid need to be taught some lessons. If I were Israel I would have bombed their royal palace while I was at it; maybe they will save that for next time.
September 12, 2025 at 1:48 pm #195515Dr. D
Participant“Trump hates being a loser and will distance himself at that specter at all costs.”
Internal emotional state of Trump, who has no thoughts and only acts out of animal emotion.
And apparently you have direct information the Reason Trump was AI today is because he was in Utah and pulled the trigger personally on a guy who got him elected and was vital to the effort of winning the midterms, and/or Republicans winning ever again because: Reasons?
Yeah, that’s totally logical. Kirk was the swing vote, squeaking in by 2%. Let’s kill him, it’ll be fine.
You know what? We’re totally winning at last, pulling away in polls, getting a few more in Congress, let’s have a Civil War now and blow it! That’s what Assad would do when he was winning his war, attack with chemical weapons! Just like Putin shelling his own Army Base and Nuclear reactor. Logic!
September 12, 2025 at 1:56 pm #195516John Day
ParticipantSeptember 12, 2025 at 1:59 pm #195517Topcat
Participant@johnday
I never followed Charlie Kirk but from credible sources I also heard his views on Gaza were shifting a lot over the pass few months.
Charlie Kirk was not a Pawn to be sacrificed in a Deep Dipshit State chess game, he was more like a Knight or a Bishop.
Not something you loose lightly.
The Globohomo sapiens are the ones to blame, not “the Left” per se, they are tools.
You want to send a message, take two Globohomos like John “I Am the Walrus” Bolton and “Cookies” Nuland and snuff them in public, in Capital Letters.
We know were Bolton lives from the recent document raid on his house.
He has no more security clearances or security protection details.
He and Cookies are there for the taking.
September 12, 2025 at 2:00 pm #195518Topcat
ParticipantSigns of Hope
September 12, 2025 at 2:08 pm #195519John Day
Participant@Aspnaz:Persia had over 5000 years of civilization.
The Saudi royal family were nomads (maybe some pirates). The Brits favored as rulers after WW-1, because they would make deals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Saud
The Qatari royal family is documented since the mid 1800s, and were nomadic before that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Thani
History is full of relevant details.September 12, 2025 at 2:13 pm #195520John Day
Participant@Topcat: Let’s get more story on the lone-gunman, Tyler Robinson, whose dad turned him in.
September 12, 2025 at 2:26 pm #195521Topcat
ParticipantThe utter soulless hypocrisy of Reverse Racism©
September 12, 2025 at 2:27 pm #195522Topcat
ParticipantSeptember 12, 2025 at 2:29 pm #195523Dora
ParticipantBK Writes about online violence-grooming groups and US mass shootings.
https://bxwrites.substack.com/p/mass-shootings-in-america
“Fast forward to 2025. We now have a much greater understanding of the online extremist landscape. Accelerationism, which was relatively unknown in 2022, is now a household term that consistently appears in criminal complaints pertaining to online extremist cases, and the FBI has coined a new term – Nihilistic Violent Extremists (NVEs) – to describe them.In spite of this progress, and in spite of our knowledge of how the politicization of mass shootings furthers the accelerationist agenda of destabilizing society, the reaction to mass shootings in America is still following the same tired model – Blame a group of people and use this to justify sweeping government surveillance or other controversial measures; blame the guns and use this to propose unconstitutional gun legislation. Misinformation abounds, and facts are lost or forgotten. We collectively ignore the most obvious causes of mass shootings and the most common-sense measures for preventing them.
And the shootings keep happening.
When reviewing the list of school shootings committed in 2024-2025 and selecting the ones that fit the FBI definition of a mass shooting – an indiscriminate, random attack of a populated area by a lone gunman, excluding gang violence and targeted hits – we come to a startling conclusion. All five shootings that meet this criteria were carried out by a shooter radicalized within online NVE communities such as 764, NLM, MKY, or TCC (short for True Crime Community, this is an online Group that glorifies and even sexualizes former mass killers). These shooters have a nihilistic/misanthropic motive along with an explicit desire to achieve notoriety by signaling their attacks online, writing manifestos, picking soft targets and focusing on a high kill count.”
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I don’t know who the Utah shooter is or if he was connected to one of the online death outfits. Might be something to check out. (How many of the online death outfits are run by state actors looking for soft targets – disturbed minds to manipulate?)September 12, 2025 at 2:37 pm #195524jb-hb
ParticipantThe same people who don’t like to see anyone be a big meanie towards leftists, socialists, or marxists also say, essentially, “You dumb stupid animal commoners are simply being herded by your emotions by a false flag for tyranny”
(you got the NPC download with No Kings that “Fascist” and “Hitler” were played out and we have to say “Tyranny” now. Antennae still working, good for you)
Yes, this is what you decided back in the 1800’s, when Marx’s “inevitable conditions” did not lead to the workers “rising up.” It was declared THEN, about 200 years ago that the workers had no souls, only a False Consciousness.
You do not sympathize with the Poors, you resent them as “letting you down” by not being your saps, for ENJOYING and finding meaningful lives inside the “lie” of capitalism. You might berate them for not using YOUR meaning of Capitalism, you might berate the workers for being such stupid dumb animals – those stupid poors who don’t get that Socialism is For The Working Class (but you always come for us and the things we found dignity and meaning in. Every time.) or That Wasn’t Real Socialism – Again. You show up to “Educate” us, to correct us, and to USE us. And call us fools or uneducated for getting it.
“you speak using Democrat and Communist interchangeably” yes, yes I do. They repeat all the marxist academic talking points from US marxist academia for the past 50 years that is a large body of work, readily available to you, with massive continuity back to Marx and Engels and with endless citations BY the marxist academics helping you connect the dots if you cannot do it yourself.
I use them interchangeably now because their verbiage and non-negotiable beliefs ARE those beliefs of marxist academia from the 20th and 21st century. And most of those go all the way back, with purely surface vocabulary changes. Any Democrat who stands up to denounce them will be cast out by them, with vigorous efforts to destroy them – financially, reputationally, etc. So anyone noticing is a big meanie and should be vocabulary-policed.
As you well know and know very well to forget and not know, I had my nose ground in current marxist ideology FOR WORK many times back in 2020 and 2021 and again for this new job, last year and this year. I was being taught False Consciousness as a fucking REFRESHER course just a few months ago and you want to piss on my back and tell me it is raining.
Go argue with the millions of people who call themselves leftists, socialists, who hold these beliefs. Go argue with the people that have wormed their way into our institutions – our corporations, governments, arts, entertainment, libraries, charities, etc. Go argue with the massive existing documentation with citations proving continuity back to Marx and Engels — curiously, cosmic coincidence, you only argue with the people who say they do not like current year leftism.
Weird that you are only ever around to speak in opposition to anyone in opposition to leftists, marxists, communists, and yes, Democrats. That’s the only place the energy goes. But nothing is happening fools, nothing was happening, and I ain’t doin nuttin, right?
If you were a good faith actor, we would have already seen YOUR opposition to “fake” current year leftism — but then, it’s heisenberg fake socialism – Real Socialism Isn’t Being Tried and that thing you see is not socialism but ALSO nothing at all is happening. Both.
But anyway, just like with any exercise of power that ISN’T ratcheting leftism, ergo labeled “tyranny” if it moves it back one inch or even slows it, leftists will complain and obfuscate and block as much as they can as power is exercised…
“Looking Into Soros. Looks Like RICO”: Trump Puts Crosshairs On Radical Leftist NGOs
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/looking-soros-looks-rico-trump-puts-crosshairs-radical-leftist-ngosYou paint a picture of us to ourselves of doing all the wrong things, all the irrational things, project your goals and methods onto us, while we exercise power as WE wish to. Another money-spigot is turning off soon. Not sorry.
Yes, you will proclaim that exercising power is icky (when not a leftist exercise of power)
Just like you did at Ft Sumter, your’e going to have to fire the first shot. Firing on bread. Firing on discussion. Like that. And we get to fire back however we want, not how you wanted. Firing being still metaphorical on our side because of how much better we are than you. Our Revolution brings results.
Your Revolution is crap, which is why, from our perspective, it is counter-revolutionary.
Your 1800’s failed garbage is going to be pushed back into the background noise of a functioning, normal society. We’ll get rid of those old leftist ideas, old leftist culture, old leftist customs, and old leftist habits. Shortly after the US eliminated slavery, Engels was already writing off the commoners as unconscious animals. And current year is just a retrofit of that dusty, tired, loser cope plus racism. Old, dusty, failed garbage nobody wants. Stop bringing it back out of the landfill.
This event has made it very hard for anyone to willfully remain unconscious, give Democrats/Marxists what they want for the sake of maintaining a civility that Democrats/Marxists have no intention of keeping their side of.
From Bluesky To Reddit, Democrats Celebrate Charlie Kirk’s Assassination; Trump Slams Radical Left…Realizing one-sided “maintaining civility” and compromising means the leftists will never stop.
Brandon Smith: Men Of The West, We Are At Warbut like I said, we’re going with RICO and other cool stuff.
And some of the bad eggs in the institutions got cleared out – a good start
Colleges Fire Employees Over Remarks About Charlie Kirk’s Murder
MSNBC Fires Matthew Dowd For Suggesting Charlie Kirk Had It Coming; Liz Warren, Jen Psaki Double Down
September 12, 2025 at 2:40 pm #195525Topcat
ParticipantSeptember 12, 2025 at 2:41 pm #195526John Day
ParticipantTyler Robinson got turned in at 10 PM last night, says Kash Patel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKGvN9hygRc
September 12, 2025 at 2:44 pm #195527Topcat
ParticipantTrump’s “internal emotional state”
“There is no definitive public record of the total number of times Donald Trump has used the word “loser”
However, journalistic tallies and archived data offer insights into his frequent use of the word, especially on social media.
Social media usage:
In September 2016 alone, it was reported that Trump had tweeted the word “loser” at least 170 times.
Hahahaha
Boy, for someone not concerned about ‘losing’, that’s one awesome “internal emotional state”
September 12, 2025 at 2:46 pm #195528Dora
ParticipantMatt Taibbi and Walter Kirn, America This Week.
https://www.racket.news/p/america-this-week-september-12-2025September 12, 2025 at 2:58 pm #195529jb-hb
ParticipantSince the Left completely meatsuited Psychology/Psychiatry, SSRI’s have become one of their sacraments.
Consult your local white liberal woman. What are the holies? Trans, climate change, whiteness, open borders, ssri’s. Tell them Tom Cruise was right and monitor for the reaction.
…SSRIs’ which seem to be involved in so many of the shootings.
…which in turn require more involvement of government, comprehensive intrusiveness by psychological experts, social workers, etc, increased pathologizing of people, resulting in even more SSRI prescriptions…
September 12, 2025 at 3:08 pm #195530phoenixvoice
ParticipantI hear Charlie Kirk in this pro-life debate and am reminded about why I did not pay him much attention. I hear him use rhetoric to eviscerate his debate partner, and I formulate a cogent rebuttal to Charlie Kirk’s logic, but I can’t use it because it is a recording of a debate, not me in the debate. Thus, I find it frustrating to listen to the debate.
A fetus is a not presently a “human being.” It has “potential to become.” As such, we want to see it as a human being and we want it to have “human rights.” However, a fetus is, by definition, dependent upon the womb provided by mother, and mother is a mature human being. Unfortunately, seeing a fetus as more than a “human in embryo” reduces the human being that carries and nourishes the fetus into a “vessel.” A potential human being does not have a right to exist that is greater than the human rights of the mother host. Therefore, the mother host has the right and responsibility to direct all things for the fetus until the fetus is born, and becomes a human being in fact. At the point of birth, the mother may, if she wishes, relinquish the responsibility of raising the child to another. Pregnancy and childbirth are life-threats to the mother. Therefore, she has the right to choose to carry the fetus to term, to abort, or choose the method of childbirth.
I am horrified by people who treat abortion flippantly. While in my view the proper person to make decisions regarding the fetus is the mother whose body houses the human-in-embryo, the human potentiality of the fetus is something that should be regarded with respect. Terminating a pregnancy should be done with careful deliberation, not on a whim, and effort should be expended to avoid being in the position of evaluating whether an unplanned pregnancy be ended.
September 12, 2025 at 3:23 pm #195531jb-hb
ParticipantThere has been a lot of “yeah, but I didn’t like Charlie Kirk’s positions/beliefs”
No, Charlie Kirk had exactly the right beliefs and positions:
Those of civil society and good faith discussion.
You can always get better on the next debate and have someone like Kirk to thank for it. The discomfort of missing a good honest argument is an excellent reminder that it is up to you to do better for your side of the discussion.
The more discomfort, the better – for anyone committed to living in the same society with the same values of discussion as a good faith actor.
Implicit are years, decades, a never ending national history and national future of open, honest discussion.
He had views people disagree with. He scored uncomfortable points. AND he was committed to the fundamental building block of Western Civilization — IMPLICIT in every argument was that you might change his mind — and as people have said widely, he was coming around on Israel/Gaza.
Who knows what he would have learned over the next decade or two, where his good faith action would have taken him? How superior would he have become, at that point, to all the people carefully trying to avoid any mistakes, wrongthink, or wrongspeak? Blown past them and lapped them 100x. This IS the massive power of European Civilization and Culture. Available for ALL to join, participate in, and benefit from.
September 12, 2025 at 3:41 pm #195532Dr D Rich
ParticipantWell, a TCTH essay without the words silo and granular. That’s progress I suppose.
TCTH says Charlie Kirk has “skillset” that will be hard to replace….talking versus writing now there’s projection of the inner object state.
ie. What I can’t do you can’t do either! How did he just do it?Y’all clearly have never set forth on a locked psych ward nor encounterd “pressured speech, Bipolar disease, Mania, hypomania, cyclothymia, steroid rage, amphetamine abuse, synthroid abuse, disorganized schizophrenia” because many ppl afflicted with Charlie Kirk’s skillset get locked up for that skillset and others become comedians and actors.
Sure military honors. Was he a veteran?D back to his usual OLD self demonizing a word(s) and conducting his own personal little war on those same words EMOTIONAL, EMOTION, EMOTIONS, EMOTING…..
…..followed by Ritter marineOne
That’s greatHere’s antidote to TCTH:
September 12, 2025 at 3:43 pm #195533Topcat
ParticipantTo most careful reads, Orwell was a warning.
To the Woketard Left, he wrote instruction manuals.
Same then
Same now….
September 12, 2025 at 3:51 pm #195534Topcat
ParticipantColor ‘revolution’ in Nepal on Trump’s watch
He drives India and China together like Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid and like a petulant spoiled brat, throws a hissy fit to ‘get back at them’.
Oh, I forgot, thhe Deep Dipshit State® didn’t bother to inform him cause he just doesn’t matter…..
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