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Dorothea Lange 4 families, 15 children, from Texas Dust Bowl, in roadside camp, Calipatria, CA Mar 1937

Ebola was until a few weeks ago mostly a forgotten affliction in the western world. Something that flared up in the Congo or thereabouts, parts of the world we’re aware of only because of the horrors of machete attacks and other mayhem induced by our own secret services in order to keep ‘our’ access to their mind-boggling amounts of resources going, while their populations live in conditions many miles below squalor.

We have applied divide and rule in the Congo better, or more ferociously, depending on your point of view, than anywhere else, ever. Hardly a word about western cruelty seeps through to our own media. A true imperium success story.

But the present ebola epidemic is not taking place where the disease was mostly raging. It’s in western Africa now. Where immense segments of native forest have been cut down, which in turn brought long-time ebola carrying fruit bats closer to other animals, and in turn to humans long dependent on bushmeat for survival.

Somewhere in that chain of events it was probably inevitable that an epidemic would break out. Of ebola or any other of a long list of viral or bacterial diseases. It’s also inevitable that a next epidemic will follow.

Until recently, my own personal knowledge of ebola was limited to the idea that it was one of, if not the worst way for a human being to die. Intense internal bleeding will do that. Something I find sorely missing in western media coverage of the people dying by the side of the road in west Africa. How they’re dying, that is.

It’s treated in a very detached way, as if it doesn’t really concern us until it might spread our way. ‘Western’ cases get treated with experimental drugs, while 4000+ Africans so far have been left to perish by the side of dirt roads in excruciating pain.

The ones that did receive treatment were attended to by local doctors, and that has led to dozens of the best and bravest doctors in Sierra Leone and Liberia succumbing to ebola themselves, a major feat in countries where per capita access to a doctor is mostly a tenth or a hundredth of what it is where we live. Take away doctors out of that situation, and that’s not even including nurses, and you have a disaster on your hands.

I’m not an expert on ebola or infectious diseases in general by any means, but I can read, and I can think, and occasionally I manage to bo both simultaneously. And what I see so far is a sweet mix of complacency, denial, stupidity and human error.

There’s a lot of political interest in downplaying the danger ebola poses. There’s even more economic interest in doing that, but then the two are Siamese twins. As of today in America, and last week in continental Europe, that attitude has become a threat to potentially millions of people.

I saw someone comparing HIV deaths to Ebola deaths, with the intent to downplay the threat, 1 million HIV deaths, ‘only’ 4000 ebola deaths. But ebola’s just getting started, and it’s much more contagious. Which makes such comparisons as irrelevant as it makes them dangerous.

The first Ebola infection on US soil that was announced today developed in the exact same way the one in Spain last week did: a health care worker tending to a confirmed ebola case got him/herself infected. Both ‘2nd generation’ cases have no idea how they were infected. The US nurse was allegedly wearing full-body protective gear all the time, while the Spanish nurse herself said she had no clue how she could have gotten the disease.

In the US case, we know that the first deadly victim, Thomas Duncan, had been in Liberia. He was sent home by several medical services after both reporting symptoms, and stating he’d been in ebola infected territory.The very same thing happened to the Spanish nurse, who was sent away from at least 3 clinics with a Tylenol prescription, after she had said she’d been attending to an ebola patient.

The patient she had been nursing was a priest who had been flown in from Africa after exhibiting symptoms. He was, however, the second Spanish priest in that situation. The first one reportedly died in the same hospital in Madrid as long ago as August.

Madrid got a lot of flack for the infected nurse: it was accused of not having its precautions properly in place. We should now review how well the Texas Presbyterian is doing in that regard. Given the fact that the Texas nurse diagnosed, or rather confirmed, today, was allowed to lead a normal personal life, socializing, shopping etc., until (s)he started exhibiting obvious symptoms, should make us feel queasy.

There will always be plenty political voices more than willing to declare that ‘there is no need to panic’ or ‘now is not the time to panic’, but we need to realize that what politicians and media say is inevitable based on economic grounds.

It might be worth contemplating to isolate western Africa from the rest of the world, halt flights etc., and meanwhile give them all the support we can, no matter what the cost. We choose instead to do everything related to support on the ground on the cheap, bleeding WHO coffers dry while we’re at it, and we let transportation options continue, because it would cost ‘too much’ not to. Money will rule our approach to ebola, like to everything else, until it’s too late.

Ironically, it was George W. Bushmeat government’s bio-terrorist anthrax and flu paranoia in the wake of 9/11 that injected a lot of money into America’s epidemiology protection layers. If not for those paranoid billions, I kid you not, G-d help us. His epitaph will read not only that he was an accomplishes portrait painter, he may well also have saved America from a much worse epidemic than it’s yet to get. America could sure use some of that paranoia right now.

And so could Europe, where everyone to a man solemnly declares that the chances of ebola appearing in their country are slim to none. And where dozens of flights arrive daily from west Africa. To paraphrase the CDC’s Mike Osterholm: the virus moves at virus time, we move at bureaucrat time.

The nurse is Madrid is reportedly healing, she’s been given the experimental ZMapp drug. We better get a million doses of that to Liberia and Sierra Leone. But we’ll probably fight over the economics of that until we need 10 million doses.

We’ve maybe grown so accustomed to living in a casino economy that we think the world is a crap table. But some things had better not be wagered on. Remember the Spanish Flu. Or should I say: Remember the Spanish Flu? Again, we tell ourselves no major epidemic could hurt us. We understand viruses as poorly as we do the exponential function. Which happen to have lots in common.

Judging from what we’ve seen so far, our health care systems are woefully unprepared for even single cases of ebola infection occurring on our soil. What’s going to happen when there’s dozens? Are we just going to say that there’s ‘only’ a 25% chance of that, based on some computer model? Or are we going to make sure we do what we can to keep ebola away from our lands?

There’s only one way to make sure: get into western Africa now, with all we have. Good for us, and good for our karma.

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    Dorothea Lange 4 families, 15 children, from Texas Dust Bowl, in roadside camp, Calipatria, CA Mar 1937 Ebola was until a few weeks ago mostly a forgo
    [See the full post at: George W. Bushmeat and the Economics of Ebola]

    #15819

    Raleigh
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    Ilargi – “It might be worth contemplating to isolate western Africa from the rest of the world, halt flights etc., and meanwhile give them all the support we can, no matter what the cost.”

    Yes, and it should have been done months ago. No one out. Had they quarantined the areas affected right away, I don’t think the numbers would be as high. This needs to be done now, like yesterday.

    “It spreads very easily. An infected person doesn’t need to touch you, or have you touch them; nor sneeze on you, or have sex with you. It’s their aura, the infected person’s atmosphere around them carries the moisture-born Ebola virus, their own contaminated body fluids. Yes, their sweat evaporating into the air around them is infected, and contagious.

    Because of the virulence of this stuff, it doesn’t act like measles or small pox or anything like that, something far, far worse. You can’t say that this is from person-to-person contact; it’s just not possible that it can be that way.

    There are some safety measures, but no guarantees. In 1976 they quarantined the towns where there were Ebola epidemics, posting soldiers at every entrance, so people were not allowed in or out. […]

    As an aside to this, there is only one west-east highway in Africa. It starts on the west coast and goes to the east coast, right on the Equator and this is the way the AIDS virus got spread through Africa. Africa as a country has the highest rate of AIDS in the world. Children have no parents, because they all got AIDS and died. This doesn’t affect the children as much because AIDS is mainly a sexually-transmitted disease.

    “All” of the truck drivers that went through from West Africa to East Africa had AIDS, they got it from the prostitutes on the truck routes and passed it along. So, I think we’re facing something of a similar nature right now. Because a truck driver, even if he’s sick, has the flu, which is Ebola, is going to transmit it right across central Africa.

    Ebola certainly can be transmitted sexually, but it is actually transmitted via the aura, or inhaling the atmosphere of an infected person.”

    https://www.salem-news.com/articles/october062014/ebola-plague-pl-bk.php

    #15820

    The exponential nature of the infection gives me a worried feeling in my stomach, but I didn’t really connect properly until I saw a documentary on the BBC and saw the doctors crying. I haven’t yet, but I intend to send some money to MSF or similarly involved organisation. From a human misery point of view, it’s awful now and it’ll get worse for sure.

    I can’t see a way to prevent spread through Africe from West to East without severely restricting travel, especially over national borders. There will be so many people trying to get away from zones of high infection and some of those will be carrying Ebola.

    Since we can’t say for certain that the virus is not airborne under some conditions, it’s isn’t at all sensible to keep flying ordinary passenger aircraft to countries wtih endemic Ebola. It may be that grounding flights might only delay infections to other parts of the world by a few months or years, but it buys time to get our healthcare systems ready and develop treatments.

    I followed Dr John Day’s comment link to Dmitri Orlov’s Ebola collapse page yesterday. I agree with Orlov that countries in the rest of the world could not cope with a deluge of cases of Ebola, it would bring about a collapse of their health systems because the exponential growth of cases, leading to further systems failure.
    It is hubris to say that non African health systems and procedures will cope with high flux of cases any better than the West African nations have, ‘Western’ health systems for example are brittle because of interdependence with other parts of the economy, tight finance and overspecialisation. They would cope marvellously with 50 isolated cases, but not with 1000.
    Pandemic Ebola could very well bring wholesale collapse of society in affected areas, this depends on the rate of infection I think.

    We really cannot afford be complacent, and for the sake of those in other parts of Africa as well, there need to be travel restrictions. If there are travel restrictions, there may be great damage to airlines and local economies, but it’ll be worse the longer it is left.

    #15821

    Greenpa
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    Hi guys- regular readers may recall I posted about Ebola on Aug. 8, and linked to that here on TAE. The scenario I outlined there- was as close to exact as it’s possible to get. Check it. Sure, I picked Denver, not Dallas; but everything else; down to first letter of city, number of letters and syllables in city name- air journey stops in Europe and eastern US… All there.

    Roel; you’ll appreciate the bad bad behavior here, also- check the huge abuse of statistics – and journalism – here:
    https://littlebloginthebigwoods.blogspot.com/2014/10/ebola-8.html

    #15823

    rapier
    Participant

    One possible scenario is that ebola does not become epidemic or pandemic now but the potential persists. Persists enough that it becomes just another drag on commerce and ever elusive social mood. That ever elusive social mood, or zeitgeist, then reflected in the financial and all asset markets, in a down cycle. Just another deflationary force.

    #15825

    Diogenes Shrugged
    Participant

    You’ve been reading endless articles filled with nothing but conjecture. Just as was the case with 9/11, the Boston Marathon bombing, the Sandy Hook hoax and a dozen previous false flags, Americans are once again demonstrating their boundless credulity. I’ve become convinced this is all a sloppily orchestrated show.

    Go ahead: hate me, denigrate me, shout me down, but for the time being, just keep the possibility buried somewhere deep in the back of your mind.

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/nana-kwame/ebo-lie/10202862436634177

    #15826

    Diogenes Shrugged
    Participant

    Whether you see this Ebola thing as authentic or as a “big lie,” what we’re witnessing is a case study of how (a few embers of misconception) + (winds of fear) = (growing holocaust). This could lead to all sorts of stampedes. Try to refrain from being sucked in by the currents. I’m already watching from a safe distance and just shaking my head.

    #15827

    Diogenes Shrugged
    Participant

    One more thing. Crime syndicates (e.g. the “mob” and ALL forms of government) have always owed their success to the fact that most of the people working for the crime syndicate DON’T KNOW they’re working for the crime syndicate. If this Ebola thing is a lie and you’re busy repeating (propagating) the official narrative, that means YOU.

    If there’s a cliff ahead, dear lemmings, it’s called “Zmap.” Just guessing here, but I doubt Zmap will hurt anybody. Then again, just guessing, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out to make people sterile. Think that one over for a while. Big objectives here – – oil, diamonds, wresting control of Africa from China, and the real prize: gradual depopulation. Never underestimate the schmucks with money and power.

    All that said, wouldn’t it just be my luck now to come down with Ebola. 😉 🙁

    #15828

    seychelles
    Participant

    If not for those paranoid billions, I kid you not, G-d help us. His epitaph will read not only that he was an accomplishes portrait painter, he may well also have saved America from a much worse epidemic than it’s yet to get.

    Ilargi you’ve got to be kidding. Just because they spent billions doesn’t mean that the money did any constructive good. If it did in this instance, it would be a first. W never channeled any public funds other than to primarily enrich “the people who count” and Obama is no better.

    #15829

    V. Arnold
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    There is now a second confirmed case directly from Duncan in Texas. One in Massachusetts as well.
    The operational word is exponential, one cannot understand the potential without understanding Ebola spreads exponentially.
    We (humans) will surely find a way to muck this up. So far we’re doing a fair job of it…
    I can hardly wait to hear of the first case in S.E. Asia. We have a large African population here in LOS.

    #15830

    Professorlocknload
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    “get into western Africa now, with all we have.”

    Don’t say that too loudly around MIC elements. They have become proficient at destroying villages in order to save them.

    #15831

    John Day
    Participant

    Nigeria got Ebola in Lagos, a vast city, and responded immediately, sending 18,500 contact tracers out into the streets, alleys and doorways, finding anybody who had touched anybody who might have had Ebola.
    The Nigerian elites are known for corruption, thumb twiddling and serving their own interests first and foremost.
    This was a spirited and unfettered case of the latter.
    Good work (this time)!
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/12/ebola-texas_n_5972246.html
    Personally, I’m more than suspicious of the foregone conclusion that anybody who catches Ebola, while wearing protective gear, “breached protocol”.
    What it looks like, is that people who care for those dying of Ebola are at very high risk of getting it no matter what they wear, no matter how careful they are, short of respiratory isolation, which doesn’t seem to have been studied…yet.
    We know a bunch of chimps seemed to spread it between separated cages a decade ago, and had to be put down, when spread could not be stopped, but that’s a different primate. That’s not applicable here.
    Nurse’s fault, same as usual.

    #15832

    Raleigh
    Participant

    I was reading the Wiki page on the Ebola epidemic. John Day, you are right, Nigeria acted quickly after the sick American flew into their country from Liberia. That`s what has to be done. While I was reading this, I got up the maps of Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia (showing their districts or counties). They think it all started with a two-year old boy (his sister, mother and grandmother died as well) in the southern forested area of Guinea, where it borders with Sierra Leone and Liberia, in December of 2013. As you read it and look at the maps, you can see how the disease fanned out.

    By March, Guinea was reporting many new cases. Finally, in August, they cordoned off a huge area, but:

    On 8 August, a cordon sanitaire, a disease-fighting practice that forcibly isolates affected regions, was established in the triangular area where Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone are separated only by porous borders and where 70 percent of the known cases had been found. By September, the closure of borders had caused a collapse of cross-border trade and was having a devastating effect on the economies of the involved countries. A United Nations spokesperson reported that the price of some food staples had increased by as much as 150% and warned that if they continue to rise widespread food shortages can be expected.

    If you read the article, you will see that we needed to act way back in March or April. We could have provided food drops while they cordoned off these areas, and it most likely would have been contained. And moving people around by taxi and transporting them to major cities, the hospitals, appears to be spreading the disease further. Maybe the best thing is for people to care for their family members at home (like the young nurse`s assistant did, and she ended up saving all but one of her family members, while wearing plastic bags covering her body). We could ensure that they have plenty of water and proper suits to wear while doing it. Moving people long distances to hospitals in close, tight quarters appears to almost be spreading it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_epidemic_in_West_Africa

    #15834

    Raleigh
    Participant

    From the above Wiki article and in response to John Day:

    Two American health workers who had contracted the disease and later recovered said that to the best of their knowledge their team of workers had been following “to the letter all of the protocols for safety that were developed by the CDC and WHO”, including a full body coverall, several layers of gloves, and face protection including goggles. One of the two, a physician, had worked with patients, but the other was working to help workers get in and out of their protective gear, while wearing protective gear herself.[137] Successfully addressing one of the “biggest danger(s) of infection” faced by medical staff requires their learning how to properly suit-up with personal protective equipment and to remove it afterwards. In Sierra Leone, the typical training period for the use of such safety equipment lasts approximately 12 days.

    #15835

    Raleigh
    Participant

    The Wiki article also says:

    “On 2 September, WHO Director-General Margaret Chan advised against travel restrictions saying that they are not justified and that they are preventing medical experts from entering the affected areas and “marginalizing the affected population and potentially worsening [the crisis]”. UN officials working on the ground have also criticized the travel restrictions saying the solution is “not in travel restrictions but in ensuring that effective preventive and curative health measures are put in place.”[17] Médecins Sans Frontières, also speaking out against the closure of international borders, called it “another layer of collective irresponsibility”: “The international community must ensure that those who try to contain the outbreak can enter and leave the affected countries if need be. A functional system of medical evacuation has to be set up urgently.”

    These are the so-called professionals, and yet, to me, they seem more like clowns. Yeah, let’s spread it all over the world, with people moving back and forth freely. Yeah, that`ll contain it! (sarc) They should have stopped it dead in its tracks months ago. They should be removed from their posts, along with the head of the CDC. They appear to have learned nothing from history. Quoting from what a little town in England did during the Plague:

    “They introduced a number of precautions to slow the spread of the illness from May 1666. They included the arrangement that families were to bury their own dead and relocation of church services to the natural amphitheatre of Cucklett Delph, allowing villagers to separate themselves and so reducing the risk of infection. Perhaps the best-known decision was to quarantine the entire village to prevent further spread of the disease.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyam

    And not everybody got the disease:

    “Survival among those affected appeared random, as many that remained alive had had close contact with those who died but never caught the disease. For example, Elizabeth Hancock was uninfected despite burying six children and her husband in eight days (the graves are known as the Riley graves after the farm where they lived). The unofficial village gravedigger, Marshall Howe, also survived despite handling many infected bodies.”

    I wonder if it’s possible that some people have it, yet show no symptoms.

    #15836

    Michael
    Participant

    All actions about protecting the west is based upon the assumption that the infected entering a country are unknowingly or unintentionally bringing the virus into that country.
    What if is the opposite should occur?

    #15843

    John Day
    Participant

    Cuba is punching way above her weight class again, providing the largest medical contingent to Sierra Leone.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/12/cuba-leads-fights-against-ebola-africa
    I do believe that fighting Ebola where there is the most of it is necessary.
    It is still growing exponentially in West Africa, and we are a connected world.
    The numbers are still relatively small compared to what they will be in 6 weeks, 4 times as many.
    What is happening is that isolation is not working this time, as it did not work with any global pandemic. It helps on a personal scale, but there are so many little failures, and so much variability, that we can all find cases to support any viewpoint.
    I really think we have to see this as OUR problem.
    We are all the same to this virus, no matter where it came from, which is not known this time around.
    Again, this virus behaves differently from all prior human Ebola virus outbreaks.
    It spreads far more effectively, somehow…

    #15844

    jlpicard2
    Participant

    Survival in Eyam depended on if you were bit by a flea that had plague. The bubonic plague is not transmitted person to person, but via flea.

    #15845

    John Day
    Participant

    Bubonic Plague adapted by mutation to Pneumonic plague, spread through the air to the lungs. That could never happen again…
    Meanwhile global financial war games are ongoing in Washington.
    https://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-british-regulators-test-readiness-for-big-bank-failure-1412978403

    #15853

    Raleigh
    Participant

    jlpicard2 – yes, I know the plague was transmitted by fleas. I was really trying to get at the quarantine system they put in place. They shut down the town, no one in or out. The town suffered terribly, but the disease was stopped from spreading further (at least from this town).

    #15866

    John Day
    Participant

    Hi Raleigh,
    The rats could go to another town, but they usually did so stowed away on carts or ships.
    The fleas went on the rats, but fleas can live free in a dormant state for months, too.
    There is not, I think, one solution, but all of us must face this in every way that we can.
    I think that includes all of what is being tried, being suggested, has been helpful and is not yet discovered.
    I think it’s already bigger than any one solution, and it won’t burn out easily from here. There will remain embers, and just like bubonic plague, it can jump up a level and get even worse.

    #15867

    Raleigh
    Participant

    The affected areas should have been cordoned off in March. These so-called professionals were seriously derelict in their duties. I am tired of the world’s professionals (medical, economic, etc.) patting us on the head and saying, “Don’t you worry, we’ve got a handle on the situation,” when they don’t have a handle on anything and probably couldn’t even find the handle if it was right in front of their noses.

    #15869

    sumac.carol
    Participant

    “There’s a lot of political interest in downplaying the danger ebola poses. There’s even more economic interest in doing that, but then the two are Siamese twins. As of today in America, and last week in continental Europe, that attitude has become a threat to potentially millions of people.”

    On the contrary, there remain people who are experts in the health and infectious disease field who have nothing to gain financially from over-playing or downplaying the risk of ebola who are on the record as saying that for the western world this is not a significant threat but that it is a serious threat in West Africa. If anything, these people suggest that TPTB have much more to be gained from fear-mongering, to gain public support for the production of ever more pharmaceuticals.

    Additionally, the threat represented by ebola is not equal in all areas in the world and this needs to be acknowledged in the analysis of this threat in order for people living in different areas to properly assess the risk it represents to them. I am not suggesting that people living in less-affected areas should not provide support for those where the illness is hitting hard.

    Here are links to articles written by alternative health leaders who subscribe to this position.
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/08/19/ebola-outbreak.aspx
    https://jonbarron.org/colds-flus-infectious-diseases/ebola-14-million-cases-not-really

    #15870

    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Diogenes, the monetary system is a total fraud engineered to systematically bankrupt society and a person as smart as ilargi is unable to overcome his Orwellian crimestop level to address this even though I’ve been here explaining it using applied 5th grade math for years.
    If the dElites can get away with that in broad daylight while the intelligentsia looks on, there is literally not much they can’t do right in broad daylight. Everyone ASSUMES that one self serving evil, wicked action after another is because they are stupid. Maybe the ASSUMPTION is stupid – after all a tactic in spelled out in Sun Tzu’s Art of War over 2,000 years ago was to “pretend inferiority.” Why? Because it obviously has worked for 2,000+ years and the intelligentsia has no anecdote for that particular Art of War tactic.

    You are right to question.
    I will recommend the following as resources in your search – particularly the Debt Money Monopoly’s effort to weaponize viruses and their on record effort to create a sterilant “vaccine.”

    Dr. Mary’s Monkey

    You will probably get through in a couple days. As always, be careful to distinguish between proven facts and speculation based on evidentiary points. Just the 100% proven facts reveal a pretty disturbing story.

    Weaponized Cancer Viruses Exposed! with Dr. Mary’s Monkey Author Ed Haslam

    U Of Texas Professor Says Mass Death Is Imminent
    https://rense.com/general70/massdeath.htm
    “But resources aren’t the only threat, Pianka says. It’s the Ebola virus he deems most capable of wide scale decimation.”

    Ebola conspiracy theories spreading fast as outbreak travels round globe – was deadly virus created in laboratory?
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/ebola-conspiracy-theories-spreading-fast-3929922

    MERCK – CANCER – SV40 and AIDS in VACCINES – ADMISSION BY Dr Maurice Hilleman

    Wikipedia – Maurice Hilleman
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Hilleman

    “Maurice Ralph Hilleman (August 30, 1919 – April 11, 2005) was an American microbiologist who specialized in vaccinology and developed over 36 vaccines, more than any other scientist.”

    Bayer Exposed ( HIV Contaminated Vaccine )

    And yes, the establishment has “ethics boards” that are recommending infanticide be legalized as long as you don’t call it infanticide. Seriously.

    After-birth abortion: why should the baby live? (Journal of Medical “Ethics”)
    https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/03/01/medethics-2011-100411.full

    As for the Rockefeller Foundation trying to develop a sterilization vaccine, your need to look at the 1968 Rockefeller Foundation Annual Report…
    “Very little work is in progress on immunological methods, such as vaccines, to reduce fertility, and much more research is required if a solution is to be found here.”
    ~1968 Rockefeller Foundation Annual Report

    Rockefeller Foundation Developed Vaccines For “Mass-Scale” Fertility Reduction


    I’ve read a few vaccination inserts and they say that they haven’t been tested for effects on sterility… by design, perhaps?

    Oh, and look at these charts just destroy the lie that vaccination was the main reason that mortality due to disease was reduced.

    Graphic Reality: The Charting of Truth
    https://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/10/29/graphic-reality-the-charting-of-truth/
    Here’s a link to the PDF with the charts (it is in the article towards the end)…
    Graphic Reality: The Charting of Truth
    In many cases, there is no evidence at all that the vaccine had any effect on mortality whatsoever. In some cases improvement was indicated and in others worsening was indicated.
    The bottom line is that the whole vaccination is like magic narrative is full on dried horse crap.
    And that’s not considering the toxins they put in it for various reasons and the fact the oligarchs who created the vaccination program reject it for themselves. Rockefeller was into homeopathy and David de Rothschild is a naturopathic physician. Rockefeller Medicine Men is a book that admits that the European Royalty rejected allopathic medicine for themselves.
    There is a reason you will never be told the rate of autism, I’m sorry, encephalitis that leads to autism, in the Rothschilds, Rockefeller and various European Royal families. Back on the home front, I have two small nephews, one real, one is a friend’s child, and neither can talk right. One was two and couldn’t get more than a word out. The other was 5 and talked like he was three. Vaccinated, industrial carb, GMO… the full meal deal… Oh, and David de Rothschild owns an organic farm. Yeah.

    Oh, and did I say the monetary system is a fraudulent Trojan Horse system engineered to do only what it is doing right now – bankrupting society with inextinguishable debt? I wanted to say it one more time so it could be ignored just one more time. 😉

    In 1984, Orwell wrote a line about the illiterate having perfect handwriting. That guy was so insightful – he was way ahead of almost everyone in our time!

    #15872

    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    FYI to all,
    Red alert.
    NYSE Margin Debt Drifts Higher in August
    https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/NYSE-Margin-Debt-and-the-SPX.php

    Notice how the Debt Money Monopoly coaxes society to lever up to the hilt and then pulls the plug on society. Study that chart. You know what comes next – once everyone is levered to the hilt, the Debt Money Monopoly knows the only way to really sheer the sheep and draw blood is to drive the market down.

    That explains all the establishment talk of bubbles and markets ahead of themselves lately.

    I **highly** recommend that anyone invested in the markets should listen to Investor’s Edge with Gary Kaltbaum.

    https://www.businesstalkradio.net/weekday_host/Archives/gk.shtml

    As an added bonus, his NFL picks against the spread are as good as it gets (about a 2-1 win ratio against the spread over the long term. I think he’s 13 out of 14 in the last 14 Superbowls).

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    christiangustafson
    Participant

    We better get a million doses of that to Liberia and Sierra Leone.

    No. Also, no.

    One more thing. No.

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