Apr 182021
 


Gustav Klimt Litzlberg am Attersee 1914-15

 

 

A friend sent me a link to this piece today, and I thought I’d share the entire thing instead of just linking to it. There are many questions about the Covid “vaccines”, and they must be asked. As someone said, we simply cannot afford to shut down either questions or dissenting voices. But there are plenty attempts to do just that.

This article was written by a man named Christian Elliot, who appears to be a health nerd/coach and “question asker”, mid-40s, 4 young kids; there’s little else I can tell you about him. Other than he asks the right questions, and they should be answered. Christian’s site is DeconstructingConventional.com.

He uses more space(s) than I usually do, but I don’t feel like going through the whole source code, so here goes:

 

 

Christian Elliot: Here are the reasons I’m opting out of the covid vaccine.


#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY


The only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products, are vaccine makers.


First established in 1986 with the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and reinforced by the PREP Act, vaccine makers cannot be sued, even if they are shown to be negligent.


The covid-vaccine makers are allowed to create a one-size-fits-all product, with no testing on sub-populations (i.e. people with specific health conditions), and yet they are unwilling to accept any responsibility for any adverse events or deaths their products cause.


If a company is not willing to stand behind their product as safe, especially one they rushed to market and skipped animal trials on, I am not willing to take a chance on their product.


No liability. No trust.


Here’s why…


#2: THE CHECKERED PAST OF THE VACCINE COMPANIES


The four major companies who are making these covid vaccines are/have either:


  1. Never brought a vaccine to market before covid (Moderna and Johnson & Johnson).

  2. Are serial felons (Pfizer, and Astra Zeneca).

  3. Are both (Johnson & Johnson).


Moderna had been trying to “Modernize our RNA” (thus the company name)–for years, but had never successfully brought ANY product to market–how nice for them to get a major cash infusion from the government to keep trying.


In fact, all major vaccine makers (save Moderna) have paid out tens of billions of dollars in damages for other products they brought to market when they knew those products would cause injuries and death–see Vioxx, Bextra, Celebrex, Thalidomide, and Opioids as a few examples.


If drug companies willfully choose to put harmful products in the market, when they can be sued, why would we trust any product where they have NO liability?


In case it hasn’t sunk in, let me reiterate…3 of the 4 covid vaccine makers have been sued for products they brought to market even though they knew injuries and deaths would result.



Let me reiterate this point:


Given the free pass from liability, and the checkered past of these companies, why would we assume that all their vaccines are safe and made completely above board?


Where else in life would we trust someone with that kind of reputation?


To me that makes as much sense as expecting a remorseless, abusive, unfaithful lover to become a different person because a judge said deep down they are a good person.


No. I don’t trust them.


No liability. No trust.


Here’s another reason why I don’t trust them.


#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES


There have been many attempts to make viral vaccines in the past that ended in utter failure, which is why we did not have a coronavirus vaccine in 2020.


In the 1960’s, scientists attempted to make an RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) vaccine for infants.


In that study, they skipped animal trials because they weren’t necessary back then.


In the end, the vaccinated infants got much sicker than the unvaccinated infants when exposed to the virus in nature, with 80% of the vaccinated infants requiring hospitalization, and two of them died.


After 2000, scientists made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines.


For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960’s.


You can read a summary of this history/science here.


Or if you want to read the individual studies you can check out these links:


  • In 2004 attempted vaccine produced hepatitis in ferrets

  • In 2005 mice and civets became sick and more susceptible to coronaviruses after being vaccinated

  • In 2012 the ferrets became sick and died. And in this study mice and ferrets developed lung disease.

  • In 2016 this study also produce lung disease in mice.


The typical pattern in the studies mentioned above is that the children and the animals produced beautiful antibody responses after being vaccinated.


The manufacturers thought they hit the jackpot.


The problem came when the children and animals were exposed to the wild version of the virus.


When that happened, an unexplained phenomenon called Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) also known as Vaccine Enhanced Disease (VED) occurred where the immune system produced a “cytokine storm” (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body), and the children/animals died.


Here’s the lingering issue…


The vaccine makers have no data to suggest their rushed vaccines have overcome that problem.


In other words, never before has any attempt to make a coronavirus vaccine been successful, nor has the gene-therapy technology that is mRNA “vaccines” been safely brought to market, but hey, since they had billions of dollars in government funding, I’m sure they figured that out.


Except they don’t know if they have…


#4: THE “DATA GAPS” SUBMITTED TO THE FDA BY THE VACCINE MAKERS


When vaccine makers submitted their papers to the FDA for the Emergency Use Authorization (Note: An EUA is not the same as a full FDA approval), among the many “Data Gaps” they reported was that they have nothing in their trials to suggest they overcame that pesky problem of Vaccine Enhanced Disease.


They simply don’t know–i.e. they have no idea if the vaccines they’ve made will also produce the same cytokine storm (and deaths) as previous attempts at such products.


As Joseph Mercola points out…


Previous attempts to develop an mRNA-based drug using lipid nanoparticles failed and had to be abandoned because when the dose was too low, the drug had no effect, and when dosed too high, the drug became too toxic. An obvious question is: What has changed that now makes this technology safe enough for mass use?”



If that’s not alarming enough, here are other gaps in the data–i.e. there is no data to suggest safety or efficacy regarding:


  • Anyone younger than age 18 or older than age 55

  • Pregnant or lactating mothers

  • Auto-immune conditions

  • Immunocompromised individuals

  • No data on transmission of covid

  • No data on preventing mortality from covid

  • No data on duration of protection from covid


Hard to believe right?


In case you think I’m making this up, or want to see the actual documents sent to the FDA by Pfizer and Moderna for their Emergency Use Authorization, you can check out this, or this respectively. The data gaps can be found starting with page 46 and 48 respectively.


For now let’s turn our eyes to the raw data the vaccine makers used to submit for emergency use authorization.


#5: NO ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA FROM THE TRIALS


Would you like to see the raw data that produced the “90% and 95% effective” claims touted in the news?


Me too…


But they won’t let us see that data.


As pointed out in the BMJ, something about the Pfizer and Moderna efficacy claims smells really funny.


There were “3,410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1,816 in the placebo group.”


Wait…what?


Did they fail to do science in their scientific study by not verifying a major variable?


Could they not test those “suspected but unconfirmed” cases to find out if they had covid?


Apparently not.


Why not test all 3,410 participants for the sake of accuracy?


Can we only guess they didn’t test because it would mess up their “90-95% effective” claims?


Where’s the FDA?


Would it not be prudent for the FDA, to expect (demand) that the vaccine makers test people who have “covid-like symptoms,” and release their raw data so outside, third-parties could examine how the manufacturers justified the numbers?


I mean it’s only every citizen of the world we’re trying to get to take these experimental products…


Why did the FDA not require that? Isn’t that the entire purpose of the FDA anyway?


Good question.


Foxes guarding the hen house?


Seems like it.


No liability. No trust.


#6: NO LONG-TERM SAFETY TESTING


Obviously, with products that have only been on the market a few months, we have no long-term safety data.


In other words, we have no idea what this product will do in the body months or years from now–for ANY population.


Given all the risks above (risks that ALL pharmaceutical products have), would it not be prudent to wait to see if the worst-case scenarios have indeed been avoided?


Would it not make sense to want to fill those pesky “data gaps” before we try to give this to every man, woman, and child on the planet?


Well…that would make sense, but to have that data, they need to test it on people, which leads me to my next point…


#7: NO INFORMED CONSENT


What most who are taking the vaccine don’t know is that because these products are still in clinical trials, anyone who gets the shot is now part of the clinical trial.


They are part of the experiment.


Those (like me) who do not take it, are part of the control group.


Time will tell how this experiment works out.


But, you may be asking, if the vaccines are causing harm, wouldn’t we be seeing that all over the news?


Surely the FDA would step in and pause the distribution?


Well, if the adverse events reporting system was working, maybe things would be different.


#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH


According to a study done by Harvard (at the commission of our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the National Vaccine Adverse Events Reports System (VAERS) – read page 6 at the link above.


While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current covid vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions.


“VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021.”


And those numbers don’t include (what is currently) 578 cases of Bell’s Palsy.


If those numbers are still only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8 to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math, but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.


Bet you didn’t see that on the news.


That death number would currently still be lower than the 424,000 deaths from medical errors that happen every year (which you probably also don’t hear about), but we are not even six months into the rollout of these vaccines yet.


If you want a deeper dive into the problems with the VAERS reporting system, you can check this out, or check this out.


But then there’s my next point, which could be argued makes these covid vaccines seem pointless…


#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION


Wait, what?


Aren’t these vaccines supposed to be what we’ve been waiting for to “go back to normal”?


Nope.


Why do you think we’re getting all these conflicting messages about needing to practice social distancing and wear masks AFTER we get a vaccine?


The reason is because these vaccines were never designed to stop transmission OR infection.


If you don’t believe me, I refer you again to the papers submitted to the FDA I linked to above.


The primary endpoint (what the vaccines are meant to accomplish) is to lower your symptoms.


Sounds like just about every other drug on the market right?


That’s it…lowering your symptoms is the big payoff we’ve been waiting for.


Does that seem completely pointless to anyone but me?


  1. It can’t stop us from spreading the virus.

  2. It can’t stop the virus from infecting us once we have it.

  3. To get the vaccine is to accept all the risk of these experimental products and the best it might do is lower symptoms?


Heck, there are plenty of other things I can do to lower my symptoms that don’t involve taking what appears to be a really risky product.


Now for the next logical question:


If we’re worried about asymptomatic spreaders, would the vaccine not make it more likely that we are creating asymptomatic spread?


If it indeed reduces symptoms, anyone who gets it might not even know they are sick and thus they are more likely to spread the virus, right?


For what it’s worth, I’ve heard many people say the side effects of the vaccine (especially the second dose) are worse than catching covid.


I can’t make sense of that either.


Take the risk.


Get no protection.


Suffer through the vaccine side-effects.


Keep wearing your mask and social distancing…


And continue to be able to spread the virus.


What?


It gets worse.


#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED


Talk about a bummer.


You get vaccinated and you still catch covid.



In reality, this phenomenon is probably happening everywhere, but those are the ones making the news now.


Given the reasons above (and what’s below), maybe this doesn’t surprise you, but bummer if you thought the vaccine was a shield to keep you safe.


It’s not.


That was never the point.


If 66% of healthcare workers in L.A. are going to delay or skip the vaccine…maybe they aren’t wowed by the rushed science either.


Maybe they are watching the shady way deaths and cases are being reported…


#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID


According to the CDC’s own numbers, covid has a 99.74% survival rate.


Why would I take a risk on a product, that doesn’t stop infection or transmission, to help me overcome a cold that has a .26% chance of killing me–actually in my age range is has about a .1% chance of killing me (and .01% chance of killing my kids), but let’s not split hairs here.


With a bar (death rate) that low, we will be in lockdown every year…i.e. forever.


But wait, what about the 500,000 plus deaths, that’s alarming right?


I’m glad you asked.


#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS


Something smells really funny about this one.


Never before in the history of death certificates has our own government changed how deaths are reported.


Why now, are we reporting everyone who dies with covid in their body, as having died of covid, rather than the co-morbidities that actually took their life?


Until covid, all coronaviruses (common colds) were never listed as the primary cause of death when someone died of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, auto-immune conditions, or any other major co-morbidity.


The disease was listed as the cause of death, and a confounding factor like flu or pneumonia was listed on a separate line.


To bloat the number even more, both the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. changed their guidelines such that those who are suspected or probable (but were never confirmed) of having died of covid, are also included in the death numbers.


Seriously?


If we are going to do that then should we not go back and change the numbers of all past cold and flu seasons so we can compare apples to apples when it comes to death rates?


According to the CDCs own numbers, (scroll down to the section “Comorbidities and other conditions”) only 6% of the deaths being attributed to covid are instances where covid seems to be the only issue at hand.


In other words, reduce the death numbers you see on the news by 94% and you have what is likely the real numbers of deaths from just covid.


Even if the former CDC director is correct and covid-19 was a lab-enhanced virus (see Reason #14 below), a .26% death rate is still in line with the viral death rate that circles the planet ever year.


Then there’s this Fauci guy.


I’d really love to trust him, but besides the fact that he hasn’t treated one covid patient…you should probably know…


#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE


Thanks to the Bayh-Dole Act, government workers are allowed to file patents on any research they do using tax payer funding.


Tony Fauci owns over 1,000 patents (see this video for more details), including patents being used on the Moderna vaccine…which he approved government funding for.


In fact, the NIH (which NIAID is part of) claims joint ownership of Moderna’s vaccine.


Does anyone else see this as a MAJOR conflict of interest, or criminal even?


I say criminal because there’s also this pesky problem that makes me even more distrustful of Fauci, NIAD, and the NIH in general.


#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH


What is “Gain-of-Function” research?


It’s where scientists attempt to make viruses gain functions–i.e. make them more transmissible and deadlier.


Sounds at least a touch unethical, right?


How could that possibly be helpful?


Our government agreed, and banned the practice.


So what did the Fauci-led NIAID do?


They pivoted and outsourced the gain-of-function research (in coronaviruses no less) to China–to the tune of a $600K grant.


You can see more details, including the important timeline of these events in this fantastically well-researched documentary.


Mr. Fauci, you have some explaining to do…and I hope the cameras are recording when you have to defend your actions.


For now, let’s turn our attention back to the virus…


#15: THE VIRUS CONTINUES TO MUTATE


Not only does the virus (like all viruses) continue to mutate, but according to world-renowned vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche (who you’ll meet below if you don’t know him) it’s mutating about every 10 hours.


How in the world are we going to keep creating vaccines to keep up with that level of mutation?


We’re not.


Might that also explain why fully vaccinated people are continuing to catch covid?


Why, given that natural immunity has never ultimately failed humanity, do we suddenly not trust it?


Why, if I ask questions like the above, or post links like what you find above, will my thoughts be deleted from all major social media platforms?


That brings me to the next troubling problem I have with these vaccines.


#16: CENSORSHIP…AND THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF SCIENTIFIC DEBATE


I can’t help but get snarky here, so humor me.


How did you enjoy all those nationally and globally-televised, robust debates put on by public health officials, and broadcast simultaneously on every major news station?


Wasn’t it great hearing from the best minds in medicine, virology, epidemiology, economics, and vaccinology from all over the world as they vigorously and respectfully debated things like:


  • Lockdowns

  • Mask wearing

  • Social-distancing

  • Vaccine efficacy and safety trials

  • How to screen for susceptibility to vaccine injury

  • Therapeutics, (i.e. non-vaccine treatment options)


Wasn’t it great seeing public health officials (who never treated anyone with covid) have their “science” questioned?


Wasn’t it great seeing the FDA panel publicly grill the vaccine makers in prime time as they stood in the hot-seat of tough questions about products of which they have no liability?


Oh, wait…you didn’t see those debates?


No, you didn’t…because they never happened.


What happened instead was heavy-handed censorship of all but one narrative.


Ironically, Mark Zuckerberg can question vaccine safety, but I can’t?


Hypocrite?


When did the first amendment become a suggestion?


It’s the FIRST amendment Mark–the one our founders thought was most important.


With so much at stake, why are we fed only one narrative…shouldn’t many perspectives be heard and professionally debated?


WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO SCIENCE?


What has happened to the scientific method of always challenging our assumptions?


What happened to lively debate in this country, or at least in Western society?


Why did anyone who disagrees with the WHO, or the CDC get censored so heavily?


Is the science of public health a religion now, or is science supposed to be about debate?


If someone says “the science is settled” that’s how I know I’m dealing with someone who is closed minded.


By definition science (especially biological science) is never settled.


If it was, it would be dogma, not science.


OK, before I get too worked up, let me say this…


I WANT TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN


I really do.


If lockdowns work, I want to do my part and stay home.


If masks work, I want to wear them.


If social distancing is effective, I want to comply.


But, if there is evidence they don’t (masks for example), I want to hear that evidence too.


If highly-credentialed scientists have different opinions, I want to know what they think.


I want a chance to hear their arguments and make up my own mind.


I don’t think I’m the smartest person in the world, but I think I can think.


Maybe I’m weird, but if someone is censored, then I REALLY want to hear what they think.


Don’t you?


To all my friends who don’t have a problem with censorship, will you have the same opinion when what you think is censored?


Is censorship not the technique of dictators, tyrants, and greedy, power-hungry people?


Is it not a sign that those who are doing the censoring know it’s the only way they can win?


What if a man who spent his entire life developing vaccines was willing to put his entire reputation on the line and call on all global leaders to immediately stop the covid vaccines because of problems with the science?


What if he pleaded for an open-scientific debate on a global stage?


Would you want to hear what he has to say?


Would you want to see the debate he’s asking for?


#17: THE WORLD’S LEADING VACCINOLOGIST IS SOUNDING THE ALARM…


Here is what may be the biggest reason this covid vaccine doesn’t make sense to me.


When someone who is very pro-vaccine, who has spent his entire professional career overseeing the development of vaccines, is shouting from the mountaintops that we have a major problem, I think the man should be heard.


In case you missed it, and in case you care to watch it, here is Geert Vanden Bossche, explaining:


  1. Why the covid vaccine may be putting so much pressure on the virus that we are accelerating it’s ability to mutate and become more deadly.

  2. Why the covid vaccines may be creating vaccine-resistant viruses (similar to anti-biotic resistant bacteria).

  3. Why, because of previous problems with Antibody Dependent Enhancement, we may be looking at a mass casualty event in the next few months/years.



If you want to see/read about a second, and longer, interview with Vanden Bossche, where he was asked some tough questions, you can check this out.


If half of what he says comes true, these vaccines could be the worst invention of all time.


If you don’t like his science, take it up with him.


I’m just the messenger.


But I can also speak to covid personally.


#18: I ALREADY HAD COVID


I didn’t enjoy it.


It was a nasty cold for two days:


  • Unrelenting butt/low-back aches

  • Very low energy.

  • Low-grade fever.


It was weird not being able to smell anything for a couple days.


A week later, coffee still tasted a little “off.”


But I survived.


Now it appears (as it always has) that I have beautiful, natural, life-long immunity


…not something likely to wear off in a few months if I get the vaccine.


In my body, and my household, covid is over.


In fact, now that I’ve had it, there is evidence the covid vaccine might actually be more dangerous for me.


That is not a risk I’m willing to take.


IN SUMMARY


The above are just my reasons for not wanting the vaccine.


Maybe my reasons make sense to you, maybe they don’t.


Whatever does makes sense to you, hopefully we can still be friends.


I for one think there’s a lot more that we have in common than what separates us.


  • We all want to live in a world of freedom.

  • We all want to do our part to help others and to live well.

  • We all want the right to express our opinions without fearing we’ll be censored or viciously attacked.

  • We all deserve to have the access to the facts so we can make informed decisions.


Agree or disagree with me; I’ll treat you no differently.


You’re a human just as worthy of love and respect as anyone else.


For that I salute you, and I truly wish you all the best.


I hope you found this helpful.


If so, feel free to share.


If not, feel free to (kindly) let me know what didn’t make sense to you and I’d be happy to hear your thoughts too.


Stay curious and stay humble.


 

 

 

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Home Forums 18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

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    Gustav Klimt Litzlberg am Attersee 1914-15     A friend sent me a link to this piece today, and I thought I’d share the entire thing instead
    [See the full post at: 18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine]

    #73387
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Thank you for a wonderful clear write up that saves me having to collect all these points and links and run on too long as I’ve done for more than a year.

    When will Science return? When half of those vaccinated die of it, in long-term vulnerability to the disease, which from two angles seems the most likely outcome? Maybe never. I’m not a genius — I’m barely even smart in my own reckoning — but I can smell a scam when I see one. The rush, the lack of discourse, the protection from harm, are all the hallmarks of a scam.

    #73392
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    I’d like to see a well-researched, and widely-read, article listing reasons “Why my children won’t be getting a Covid vaccine.”

    Sadly, some parents probably won’t question the dominant narrative until a number of healthy children (who otherwise would have a 99.99% chance of surviving Covid) end up dying or getting long-term health problems from a Covid vaccine.

    #73393
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Well, I think it bears pointing out that only first ten points are about the vaccine itself, and they are good points. And #7 is probably the big one explaining why people such as myself are experiencing “vaccine-hesitancy” about the mRNA-driven vaccines: Anyone who takes the shots in this initial round of the roll-out is essentially volunteering to be a “guinea-pig” in lieu of the final round of testing that wasn’t done for this new-fangled vaccination technology. I don’t know about any of y’all, but things tend not to go well for me when I push my luck too much.

    #73398
    Bill Roope
    Participant

    I’m really glad you posted this here! He stated all of what I’ve been thinking. And, he did it very clearly.
    Especially I think that forcing this ‘vaccine’ on children and young people that have almost no risk of dying from the virus is criminal and insane.
    I’ve been telling my wife it’s not good to take the ‘vaccine’. Fortunately she decided to wait because her doctor said he is going to wait and see what happens.
    Personally I won’t take the ‘vaccine’ unless the cost of non-compliance becomes greater than my perception of the risk of the ‘vaccine’. I’m 78 and, as far as I know, very healthy. The average life-span for American men in my cohort is 77. I haven’t had a flu shot or the flue for as far back as I can remember. Why should I take a slipshod injection that will probably just make more customers for pharmaceutical companies that have no liability?

    #73400
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Can’t seem to post FSR.

    #73403
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Excellent article, thanks for posting it.

    What is going on here? Is it profit motive, pure and simple, and hang the consequences, or is there something more Malthusian at hand? What happens if even 1% of those vaccinated end up with serious medical problems or dying? What happens if it’s many more?

    Meanwhile, my wife has just signed up for the Pfizer vaccine – I couldn’t persuade her otherwise. She had Covid last year and had flu-like symptoms plus loss of smell but otherwise her immune system dealt well with it. I had fewer symptoms so I’m not at all keen to damage a well-functioning immune system. That’s the key question for me: if it doesn’t work, will it at least do no harm?

    I looked for articles debunking the Vanden Bossche letter and found plenty, there’s a technical one
    and an easier to read one
    They both wipe the floor with the guy, but fail to answer that one key question and put my mind at ease. There’s a good reason for that, no one knows and no one CAN know at this stage.

    <<Sorry, had to take the links out as they wouldn’t post. >>

    #73405
    Polder Dweller
    Participant
    #73407
    Germ
    Participant

    “Even without bringing any other issue into the vaccine debate, a coronavirus vaccine is a highly dangerous undertaking due to a peculiar trojan horse mechanism known as Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE). Regardless of someone’s conviction about vaccines, this point needs to be acknowledged. In the remaining portion of this article, I’m going to explain how ADE works and the future perils it may bring.”

    Is a Coronavirus Vaccine a Ticking Time Bomb?

    #73409
    Germ
    Participant

    Good interview with Dr Bhakhi where he talks about the dangers of the clots.
    He says if you were lucky to survive the shots you should still make out your will before getting the booster.

    “BLOOD CLOTS AND BEYOND” SUCHARIT BHAKDI, M.D.

    #73410
    John Day
    Participant

    https://brandnewtube.com/watch/the-story-of-ivermectin_ffENQ99XWhon3Ui.html

    The Story of Ivermectin is also the story of financial investment of powerful decision makers in the US medical system with Gilead, who makes Remdesivir, which is recommended in the US, is very expensive, but can’t save a life.
    Thanks Luc!

    (Yeah, it’s a video, and I almost never do that, but it wastes no time and puts the information together very well. No blather.)

    I have been encouraged to get vaccinated since early January.
    I’m not afraid of infection with this virus. My personalized risk assessment is low, and I have access to rapid testing and early antiviral treatment. I am not very prone to catching it, because I have not caught it symptomatically yet, and I have done more testing than any other doctor at our clinic, several of which did catch it.
    My primary reason to have not accepted vaccination is the deep and pervasive wrongness of how it is being pushed so hard by monied interests, the same interests who are quite happy to keep people scared and dying as long as possible to enforce their wills on the populace.
    This is bad enough.
    Do they have a second trick up their sleeves to deny us free will, to deny us our human lives?
    I sure dunno…

    #73413
    Germ
    Participant

    They know that SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 induces fibrin(ogen) resistant to fibrinolysis:

    “We conclude that the spike protein may have pathological effects directly, without being taken up by cells. ”
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.05.21252960v1.full

    #73414
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Thanks for the video-link, John Day. I have posted it on both my Twitter and Facebook accounts. Let’s see how long those posts stay up!

    #73415
    Germ
    Participant

    This explains why ‘natural’ immunity from infection is far superior than immunity induced from the S1 Spike alone.

    https://theconversation.com/covid-vaccines-focus-on-the-spike-protein-but-heres-another-target-150315

    “Whereas antibodies are typically thought to only work outside of cells, TRIM21 is only found inside cells. We have shown that N protein antibodies that get inside cells are recognised by TRIM21, which then shreds the associated N protein. Tiny fragments of N protein are then displayed on the surface of infected cells. T cells recognise these fragments, identify cells as infected, then kill the cell and consequently any virus.”

    There’s a lovely, and informative, diagram of our little friend in the article.

    #73416
    John Day
    Participant

    @Rototillerman:
    Injectable liquid veterinary ivermectin has less volume per mg than horse paste.
    Take it as you would the pills. You can dose 0.2 mg per kg on days 1 and 2, then take 0.2 mg per kg (1 mg per 11#) every week for a higher dose prophylaxis, or every 2 weeks for a lower dose prophylaxis.
    If you would catch it, then the 2 days of loading dose, and doses on days 4 and 6, with 50 mg zinc 3 times per day for 10 days, and maybe a plain aspirin per day, if you are sick enough to have a fever (reduce clotting risk). You might carry quercetin 250 mg and take 1 by mouth 3 times per day with the zinc, in case of that illness.
    Doxycycline 100 mg twice per day if you can get it.

    #73417
    John Day
    Participant
    #73418
    Germ
    Participant

    Note, that the pro-vaccine nature of my previous post is because the author receives funding from the Wellcome Trust !

    #73419
    Germ
    Participant
    #73420
    Germ
    Participant

    @ Dr Day

    In my opinion the next thing to watch for is these therapies coming off EUA, that’s when the tyranny will really ramp up. “They” are not going to simply leave us alone and I expect jab passports to become required in more and more places until we have a full blown social credit system implemented via them. They’ll be phone based apps that present and can read QR codes both showing your vaccine status and the locations you’ve been to.

    We already have the QR codes displayed at the entrances of most establishments in the UK – businesses can generate them and print them off themselves from a Gov website!

    https://www.gov.uk/create-coronavirus-qr-poster

    Here’s how it works with the UK NHS phone app.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11720019/nhs-covid-19-track-trace-app-explained/

    Soon to be linked to your digital currency, voting eligibility, residency status, public transport access, etc etc ……. the ‘possibilities’ are endless – and terrifying.

    “No Jab, No Job” – it’s already here.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/vaccine-covid-pandemic-b1821183.html

    #73421
    zerosum
    Participant

    covid 19 and blood thinners. Yes or no or maybe or it depends

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/blood-thinners-may-protect-against-covid-19-complications
    The National Institutes of Health (NIH) recommend that everyone who is hospitalized for COVID-19 treatment, except those who are pregnant, receive prophylactic anticoagulants

    http://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n311
    CCBYNC Open access
    Research
    Early initiation of prophylactic anticoagulation for prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 mortality in patients admitted to hospital in the United States: cohort study

    ———-
    http://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/antithrombotic-therapy/
    Antithrombotic Therapy in Patients With COVID-19
    Last Updated: February 11, 2021

    .

    #73423
    Germ
    Participant

    Talking of QR codes.

    #73424
    Germ
    Participant

    Good god.

    The implications of this are unimaginable.

    “The current study explored the occurrence of reverse transcription of the SARS-CoV-2 RNA into the human genome. This would result in positive PCR tests due to the continuing transcription of viral RNAs.”

    “The researchers looked at the published RNA-sequences from SARS-CoV-2 infected cells. Their aim was to find chimeric transcripts, melding human and viral RNA into the same genome. They found a good number of such reads in several different cell types, from the heart, brain, lung and stomach and from cells retrieved from the bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BALF) obtained from COVID-19 patients.”

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201216/SARS-CoV-2-RNA-can-be-reverse-transcribed-to-be-part-of-chimeric-viral-human-genome.aspx

    #73425
    Germ
    Participant

    Perhaps it’s finally time to watch “Songbird”.

    Trailer – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgxXSfto6Vo

    Full movie – https://w1.putlockersmovie.net/songbird-2/

    #73426
    madamski
    Participant

    Holy guacamole. Christian Elliot wins the internet! Durn good.

    #73427
    madamski
    Participant

    Sound bite: “A reverse transcriptase (RT) is an enzyme used to generate complementary DNA (cDNA) from an RNA template, a process termed reverse transcription. Reverse transcriptases are used by certain viruses such as HIV and the hepatitis B virus to replicate their genomes”

    I have no idea if that quote bites as hard as it sounds with its guilt-by-association mention of HIV. We use the technique all the time including sometests for covid. But in a laboratory is one thing, running wild amok the global populace is another.

    #73429
    madamski
    Participant
    #73430
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Yeah, Songbird, a movie by none other than that master of artful subtlety Michael Bay.

    #73431
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Looks like the mRNA vaccines have been causing shingles in people having autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic diseases (AIIRD).

    “Little has been known about the safety and efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccines among patients with rheumatic diseases, because immunosuppressed individuals were not included in the initial clinical trials

    1.2% of the people having those rheumatic diseases got a case of shingles after getting vaccinated, compared to zero in the control group.

    Conclusion: More safety studies are needed for the mRNA-based vaccines.

    Conclusion
    Epidemiologic studies on the safety of the mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines in patients with AIIRD are needed to clarify the association between the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccination and reactivation of zoster.

    Herpes zoster following BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 vaccination in patients with autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic diseases: a case series
    https://academic.oup.com/rheumatology/advance-article/doi/10.1093/rheumatology/keab345/6225015

    #73432
    chettt
    Participant

    Let me ask on this thread…

    Could someone comment on the covid situation in Brazil. I thought that there was widespread use of Ivermectin but it seems that the situation is anything but improving. I can’t seem to find much data on the effectiveness of their use of ivermectin or any other treatment protocols.

    #73433
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    @ chettt

    I didn’t find much beyond this:

    What about Brazil and Ivermectin from ivermectin

    #73434
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    My guess would be that the Brazilian variant is more deadly, and so early intervention is a lot more critical.

    #73435
    chettt
    Participant

    Thanks DR
    This is the exact question that I’ve had on my mind.

    #73437
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Thanks Ilargi: this firms up my/our resolve not to vaccinate…
    Such an excellent article…
    My wife and I are on the same page re: vaccines…
    Thailand’s PM has approved the Astra-zenica vaccine poo pooing the blood clotting issue…
    …the gods be good; the world governments are clown shows with machine guns…
    Classic Facism rules; corporations and governments are fully wed…

    Gustav Klimt Litzlberg am Attersee 1914-15

    A rich, beautiful painting…a feast for the eyes…

    #73438
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    I do have a question: why was Sputnik V not mentioned or even alluded too?
    Is it an exception?

    #73439
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The Sputnik V vaccine is similar to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, as they both use non-replicating human adenoviruses to carry a fragment of Covid spike protein. Sputnik V uses two different adenoviruses, one for each shot, while the J&J uses only one for one shot. (AstraZeneca uses a chimpanzee adenovirus.)

    A hospital in Argentina has been looking at adverse reactions to the Sputnik V vaccine given to health workers.

    Among local reactions, 54% reported pain at the injection site, 11% redness and swelling. Among systemic reactions 40% reported fever, 5% diarrhea and 68% new or worsened muscle pain. Five percent had serious adverse events that required medical evaluation and one inpatient.

    ESAVI [events supposedly attributable to vaccines and immunization] rate was higher among females (65.4% vs 50%; HR 1.38, 95%CI 1.13-5.38) and in younger than 55 years-old (72.8% vs 32%; HR 2.66, 95%CI 1.32-1.68).

    Conclusion
    Active surveillance on safety for vaccines with emergency approval is mandatory. This study shows high rates of local and systemic reactions however early serious events were rare. Short term safety is supported by these preliminary findings. Studies on long term safety and efficacy, accoding sex and age, are needed.

    ACTIVE SURVEILLANCE OF THE SPUTNIK V VACCINE IN HEALTH WORKERS
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.03.21251071v1

    #73440
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Doc Robinson

    Thanks…interesting…

    #73441
    WES
    Participant

    Here in Ontario daily covid cases keep making new records. The so called 3rd wave.

    I have to wonder if this 3rd wave isn’t a direct result of the ramp up in the number of people being vaccinated?

    Seems like Israel experienced a ramp up in covid cases right after they started mass vaccinations.

    Certainly the Ontario chief health doctor has been showing scary 3rd wave projection graphs to the public showing what will happen if we don’t lockdown more tightly than even before.

    So the priemer issued an order for all police forces to stop everybody and ask why they were not obeying the stay at home decree. Well, well!

    Immediately all of Ontario’s city police forces publically said they were not going to enforce the new “stop” decree! “Don’t make us the bad guys!”

    Since most Ontarians live in the cities, the solicitor general had to walk back the order the next day!

    My son worked today but on his way home he said he saw 4 local OPP police cars sitting together in a parking lot talking, obviously not enforcing anything!

    #73442
    WES
    Participant

    John Day:

    I still haven’t been able to buy ivermectin from India. Still trying.

    So, is taking 50 mg of zinc with 250 mg of quercetin every day the next best prophyaxis?

    #73443
    Germ
    Participant

    Taoiseach: EU Commission buying “100s of millions” of new jabs to vaccinate children

    “They’re looking at ordering vaccines to vaccinate teenagers and children. They feel that scientists are telling the European Commission that this is the next phase. And so they’re ordering millions of more vaccines for 2022 and 2023. So what I see evolving is a more advanced sort of settled pattern of dealing with this pandemic.”

    The comments come shortly after the European Court of Human Rights ruled that countries could legally mandate children to receive the covid-19 vaccines by law.

    The European Court of Human Rights has voted 16 to 1 to uphold a decision in the Czech Republic which banned unvaccinated children from attending school. https://t.co/yw69RiSJ2B

    Taoiseach: EU Commission buying “100s of millions” of new jabs to vaccinate children

    #73444
    Germ
    Participant

    Dr. Roger Hodkinson summarizes it all

    “The fight of our generation”

    https://odysee.com/@TruthPills:5/Roger-Hodkinson-Alberta:2

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