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April 18, 2021 at 11:35 am #73386Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Gustav Klimt Litzlberg am Attersee 1914-15 A friend sent me a link to this piece today, and I thought I’d share the entire thing instead
[See the full post at: 18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine]April 18, 2021 at 11:57 am #73387Dr. DParticipant
Thank you for a wonderful clear write up that saves me having to collect all these points and links and run on too long as I’ve done for more than a year.
When will Science return? When half of those vaccinated die of it, in long-term vulnerability to the disease, which from two angles seems the most likely outcome? Maybe never. I’m not a genius — I’m barely even smart in my own reckoning — but I can smell a scam when I see one. The rush, the lack of discourse, the protection from harm, are all the hallmarks of a scam.April 18, 2021 at 1:10 pm #73392
I’d like to see a well-researched, and widely-read, article listing reasons “Why my children won’t be getting a Covid vaccine.”
Sadly, some parents probably won’t question the dominant narrative until a number of healthy children (who otherwise would have a 99.99% chance of surviving Covid) end up dying or getting long-term health problems from a Covid vaccine.April 18, 2021 at 1:12 pm #73393
Well, I think it bears pointing out that only first ten points are about the vaccine itself, and they are good points. And #7 is probably the big one explaining why people such as myself are experiencing “vaccine-hesitancy” about the mRNA-driven vaccines: Anyone who takes the shots in this initial round of the roll-out is essentially volunteering to be a “guinea-pig” in lieu of the final round of testing that wasn’t done for this new-fangled vaccination technology. I don’t know about any of y’all, but things tend not to go well for me when I push my luck too much.April 18, 2021 at 2:51 pm #73398Bill RoopeParticipant
I’m really glad you posted this here! He stated all of what I’ve been thinking. And, he did it very clearly.
Especially I think that forcing this ‘vaccine’ on children and young people that have almost no risk of dying from the virus is criminal and insane.
I’ve been telling my wife it’s not good to take the ‘vaccine’. Fortunately she decided to wait because her doctor said he is going to wait and see what happens.
Personally I won’t take the ‘vaccine’ unless the cost of non-compliance becomes greater than my perception of the risk of the ‘vaccine’. I’m 78 and, as far as I know, very healthy. The average life-span for American men in my cohort is 77. I haven’t had a flu shot or the flue for as far back as I can remember. Why should I take a slipshod injection that will probably just make more customers for pharmaceutical companies that have no liability?April 18, 2021 at 3:55 pm #73400
Can’t seem to post FSR.April 18, 2021 at 4:01 pm #73403
Excellent article, thanks for posting it.
What is going on here? Is it profit motive, pure and simple, and hang the consequences, or is there something more Malthusian at hand? What happens if even 1% of those vaccinated end up with serious medical problems or dying? What happens if it’s many more?
Meanwhile, my wife has just signed up for the Pfizer vaccine – I couldn’t persuade her otherwise. She had Covid last year and had flu-like symptoms plus loss of smell but otherwise her immune system dealt well with it. I had fewer symptoms so I’m not at all keen to damage a well-functioning immune system. That’s the key question for me: if it doesn’t work, will it at least do no harm?
I looked for articles debunking the Vanden Bossche letter and found plenty, there’s a technical one
and an easier to read one
They both wipe the floor with the guy, but fail to answer that one key question and put my mind at ease. There’s a good reason for that, no one knows and no one CAN know at this stage.
<<Sorry, had to take the links out as they wouldn’t post. >>April 18, 2021 at 4:24 pm #73405April 18, 2021 at 4:39 pm #73407
“Even without bringing any other issue into the vaccine debate, a coronavirus vaccine is a highly dangerous undertaking due to a peculiar trojan horse mechanism known as Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE). Regardless of someone’s conviction about vaccines, this point needs to be acknowledged. In the remaining portion of this article, I’m going to explain how ADE works and the future perils it may bring.”April 18, 2021 at 4:44 pm #73409
Good interview with Dr Bhakhi where he talks about the dangers of the clots.
He says if you were lucky to survive the shots you should still make out your will before getting the booster.
“BLOOD CLOTS AND BEYOND” SUCHARIT BHAKDI, M.D.April 18, 2021 at 4:47 pm #73410
The Story of Ivermectin is also the story of financial investment of powerful decision makers in the US medical system with Gilead, who makes Remdesivir, which is recommended in the US, is very expensive, but can’t save a life.
(Yeah, it’s a video, and I almost never do that, but it wastes no time and puts the information together very well. No blather.)
I have been encouraged to get vaccinated since early January.
I’m not afraid of infection with this virus. My personalized risk assessment is low, and I have access to rapid testing and early antiviral treatment. I am not very prone to catching it, because I have not caught it symptomatically yet, and I have done more testing than any other doctor at our clinic, several of which did catch it.
My primary reason to have not accepted vaccination is the deep and pervasive wrongness of how it is being pushed so hard by monied interests, the same interests who are quite happy to keep people scared and dying as long as possible to enforce their wills on the populace.
This is bad enough.
Do they have a second trick up their sleeves to deny us free will, to deny us our human lives?
I sure dunno…April 18, 2021 at 5:41 pm #73413
They know that SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 induces fibrin(ogen) resistant to fibrinolysis:
“We conclude that the spike protein may have pathological effects directly, without being taken up by cells. ”
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.05.21252960v1.fullApril 18, 2021 at 5:46 pm #73414
Thanks for the video-link, John Day. I have posted it on both my Twitter and Facebook accounts. Let’s see how long those posts stay up!April 18, 2021 at 5:48 pm #73415
This explains why ‘natural’ immunity from infection is far superior than immunity induced from the S1 Spike alone.
“Whereas antibodies are typically thought to only work outside of cells, TRIM21 is only found inside cells. We have shown that N protein antibodies that get inside cells are recognised by TRIM21, which then shreds the associated N protein. Tiny fragments of N protein are then displayed on the surface of infected cells. T cells recognise these fragments, identify cells as infected, then kill the cell and consequently any virus.”
There’s a lovely, and informative, diagram of our little friend in the article.April 18, 2021 at 5:50 pm #73416
Injectable liquid veterinary ivermectin has less volume per mg than horse paste.
Take it as you would the pills. You can dose 0.2 mg per kg on days 1 and 2, then take 0.2 mg per kg (1 mg per 11#) every week for a higher dose prophylaxis, or every 2 weeks for a lower dose prophylaxis.
If you would catch it, then the 2 days of loading dose, and doses on days 4 and 6, with 50 mg zinc 3 times per day for 10 days, and maybe a plain aspirin per day, if you are sick enough to have a fever (reduce clotting risk). You might carry quercetin 250 mg and take 1 by mouth 3 times per day with the zinc, in case of that illness.
Doxycycline 100 mg twice per day if you can get it.April 18, 2021 at 5:51 pm #73417April 18, 2021 at 5:57 pm #73418
Note, that the pro-vaccine nature of my previous post is because the author receives funding from the Wellcome Trust !April 18, 2021 at 6:02 pm #73419
Kachhela sells Doxycycline:
Costs pennies!April 18, 2021 at 6:11 pm #73420
@ Dr Day
In my opinion the next thing to watch for is these therapies coming off EUA, that’s when the tyranny will really ramp up. “They” are not going to simply leave us alone and I expect jab passports to become required in more and more places until we have a full blown social credit system implemented via them. They’ll be phone based apps that present and can read QR codes both showing your vaccine status and the locations you’ve been to.
We already have the QR codes displayed at the entrances of most establishments in the UK – businesses can generate them and print them off themselves from a Gov website!
Here’s how it works with the UK NHS phone app.
Soon to be linked to your digital currency, voting eligibility, residency status, public transport access, etc etc ……. the ‘possibilities’ are endless – and terrifying.
“No Jab, No Job” – it’s already here.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/vaccine-covid-pandemic-b1821183.htmlApril 18, 2021 at 6:50 pm #73421zerosumParticipant
covid 19 and blood thinners. Yes or no or maybe or it depends
The National Institutes of Health (NIH) recommend that everyone who is hospitalized for COVID-19 treatment, except those who are pregnant, receive prophylactic anticoagulants
CCBYNC Open access
Early initiation of prophylactic anticoagulation for prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 mortality in patients admitted to hospital in the United States: cohort study
Antithrombotic Therapy in Patients With COVID-19
Last Updated: February 11, 2021
.April 18, 2021 at 7:40 pm #73423April 18, 2021 at 8:16 pm #73424
The implications of this are unimaginable.
“The current study explored the occurrence of reverse transcription of the SARS-CoV-2 RNA into the human genome. This would result in positive PCR tests due to the continuing transcription of viral RNAs.”
“The researchers looked at the published RNA-sequences from SARS-CoV-2 infected cells. Their aim was to find chimeric transcripts, melding human and viral RNA into the same genome. They found a good number of such reads in several different cell types, from the heart, brain, lung and stomach and from cells retrieved from the bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BALF) obtained from COVID-19 patients.”April 18, 2021 at 8:20 pm #73425April 18, 2021 at 9:25 pm #73426
Holy guacamole. Christian Elliot wins the internet! Durn good.April 18, 2021 at 9:35 pm #73427
Sound bite: “A reverse transcriptase (RT) is an enzyme used to generate complementary DNA (cDNA) from an RNA template, a process termed reverse transcription. Reverse transcriptases are used by certain viruses such as HIV and the hepatitis B virus to replicate their genomes”
I have no idea if that quote bites as hard as it sounds with its guilt-by-association mention of HIV. We use the technique all the time including sometests for covid. But in a laboratory is one thing, running wild amok the global populace is another.April 18, 2021 at 9:51 pm #73429April 18, 2021 at 10:00 pm #73430
Yeah, Songbird, a movie by none other than that master of artful subtlety Michael Bay.April 18, 2021 at 10:34 pm #73431
Looks like the mRNA vaccines have been causing shingles in people having autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic diseases (AIIRD).
“Little has been known about the safety and efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccines among patients with rheumatic diseases, because immunosuppressed individuals were not included in the initial clinical trials“
1.2% of the people having those rheumatic diseases got a case of shingles after getting vaccinated, compared to zero in the control group.
Conclusion: More safety studies are needed for the mRNA-based vaccines.
Epidemiologic studies on the safety of the mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines in patients with AIIRD are needed to clarify the association between the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccination and reactivation of zoster.
Herpes zoster following BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 vaccination in patients with autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic diseases: a case series
https://academic.oup.com/rheumatology/advance-article/doi/10.1093/rheumatology/keab345/6225015April 18, 2021 at 10:50 pm #73432chetttParticipant
Let me ask on this thread…
Could someone comment on the covid situation in Brazil. I thought that there was widespread use of Ivermectin but it seems that the situation is anything but improving. I can’t seem to find much data on the effectiveness of their use of ivermectin or any other treatment protocols.April 18, 2021 at 10:51 pm #73433April 18, 2021 at 10:54 pm #73434
My guess would be that the Brazilian variant is more deadly, and so early intervention is a lot more critical.April 18, 2021 at 10:56 pm #73435chetttParticipant
This is the exact question that I’ve had on my mind.April 19, 2021 at 12:19 am #73437
Thanks Ilargi: this firms up my/our resolve not to vaccinate…
Such an excellent article…
My wife and I are on the same page re: vaccines…
Thailand’s PM has approved the Astra-zenica vaccine poo pooing the blood clotting issue…
…the gods be good; the world governments are clown shows with machine guns…
Classic Facism rules; corporations and governments are fully wed…
Gustav Klimt Litzlberg am Attersee 1914-15
A rich, beautiful painting…a feast for the eyes…April 19, 2021 at 12:34 am #73438
I do have a question: why was Sputnik V not mentioned or even alluded too?
Is it an exception?April 19, 2021 at 1:06 am #73439
The Sputnik V vaccine is similar to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, as they both use non-replicating human adenoviruses to carry a fragment of Covid spike protein. Sputnik V uses two different adenoviruses, one for each shot, while the J&J uses only one for one shot. (AstraZeneca uses a chimpanzee adenovirus.)
A hospital in Argentina has been looking at adverse reactions to the Sputnik V vaccine given to health workers.
Among local reactions, 54% reported pain at the injection site, 11% redness and swelling. Among systemic reactions 40% reported fever, 5% diarrhea and 68% new or worsened muscle pain. Five percent had serious adverse events that required medical evaluation and one inpatient.
ESAVI [events supposedly attributable to vaccines and immunization] rate was higher among females (65.4% vs 50%; HR 1.38, 95%CI 1.13-5.38) and in younger than 55 years-old (72.8% vs 32%; HR 2.66, 95%CI 1.32-1.68).
Active surveillance on safety for vaccines with emergency approval is mandatory. This study shows high rates of local and systemic reactions however early serious events were rare. Short term safety is supported by these preliminary findings. Studies on long term safety and efficacy, accoding sex and age, are needed.
ACTIVE SURVEILLANCE OF THE SPUTNIK V VACCINE IN HEALTH WORKERS
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.03.21251071v1April 19, 2021 at 1:16 am #73440
@ Doc Robinson
Thanks…interesting…April 19, 2021 at 1:46 am #73441WESParticipant
Here in Ontario daily covid cases keep making new records. The so called 3rd wave.
I have to wonder if this 3rd wave isn’t a direct result of the ramp up in the number of people being vaccinated?
Seems like Israel experienced a ramp up in covid cases right after they started mass vaccinations.
Certainly the Ontario chief health doctor has been showing scary 3rd wave projection graphs to the public showing what will happen if we don’t lockdown more tightly than even before.
So the priemer issued an order for all police forces to stop everybody and ask why they were not obeying the stay at home decree. Well, well!
Immediately all of Ontario’s city police forces publically said they were not going to enforce the new “stop” decree! “Don’t make us the bad guys!”
Since most Ontarians live in the cities, the solicitor general had to walk back the order the next day!
My son worked today but on his way home he said he saw 4 local OPP police cars sitting together in a parking lot talking, obviously not enforcing anything!April 19, 2021 at 1:59 am #73442WESParticipant
I still haven’t been able to buy ivermectin from India. Still trying.
So, is taking 50 mg of zinc with 250 mg of quercetin every day the next best prophyaxis?April 19, 2021 at 4:27 am #73443
Taoiseach: EU Commission buying “100s of millions” of new jabs to vaccinate children
“They’re looking at ordering vaccines to vaccinate teenagers and children. They feel that scientists are telling the European Commission that this is the next phase. And so they’re ordering millions of more vaccines for 2022 and 2023. So what I see evolving is a more advanced sort of settled pattern of dealing with this pandemic.”
The comments come shortly after the European Court of Human Rights ruled that countries could legally mandate children to receive the covid-19 vaccines by law.
The European Court of Human Rights has voted 16 to 1 to uphold a decision in the Czech Republic which banned unvaccinated children from attending school. https://t.co/yw69RiSJ2BApril 19, 2021 at 4:29 am #73444
Dr. Roger Hodkinson summarizes it all
“The fight of our generation”
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