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Pablo Picasso Group of dancers. Olga Kokhlova is lying in the foreground 1919

 

NBA Wants Covid-19 Vaccine Boosters For Players Jabbed Just 2 Months Prior (RT)
Expert Committee Member Calls For Booster Covid Shot After 4 Months (K.)
COVID Boosters Likely to Be Annual ‘For the Foreseeable Future’ (ET)
Medicine Wants to Kill You (Kunstler)
Will You Ever Care To SOLVE The Problem? (Denninger)
3CLPro Inhibitors As Potential Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Agents (Nature)
Applying Brakes On ‘Warp Speed’ Covid-19 Vaccinations For Children (WT)
Vaccine Passports: Institutionalized Segregation (BI)
UK Health Expert: Vaccine Passports Make No Sense (DR)
The Cause of Myocarditis: COVID19 or COVID19 Vaccination? (BI)
Marines Chief Blames ‘Disinformation’ For Remaining Unvaccinated Troops (WE)

 

 

Dr Robert Malone – MRNA Vaccines Explained For Real

 

 

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It’s a countdown now. At what point will we realize that boosters are the end of mass vaccination? 2 months, ha ha ha.

NBA Wants Covid-19 Vaccine Boosters For Players Jabbed Just 2 Months Prior (RT)

The NBA has reportedly urged players to get Covid-19 booster shots. Some vaccinated players may face game-day testing by December if they refuse. The NBA told the players the new rules on Sunday, according to AP, and stressed that those who initially received the Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccine are most in need of a booster shot. Citing its waning efficacy over time, the league called on players, coaches, and referees who received the vaccine more than two months ago to roll up their sleeves for a booster of a different vaccine, namely Pfizer’s or Moderna’s. Those who were vaccinated with either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine were told that they will need a booster shot six months after initial vaccination.

Depending on which vaccine a player was originally given and when that vaccination took place, some players may already face repercussions for refusing a booster dose by next month. “In some cases, those who are vaccinated but elect to not receive a booster would be subjected to game-day testing again starting Dec. 1,” AP reported. The announcement angered opponents of Covid-19 restrictions, including figures in the sports industry. “Wake up, sheep. The NBA is already mandating the vaccine booster now. This won’t ever end,” tweeted sports commentator Clay Travis, who founded the sports journalism website OutKick. Travis also questioned whether the industry was “going to make 100% healthy people get covid shots every six months for the rest of their lives.”

Sports journalist Jason Whitlock protested that the news was “just the tip,” while Inner Sports founder Garret Kramer wrote, “On what planet do we continue to mandate drugs for people who are not sick? Say NO.” “This world and league is getting more asinine by the day,” golf champion Steve Flesch said. The NBA recommendation found support among proponents of vaccine mandates, however. “The NBA is doing the right thing here,” Jerome Michael Adams, the former surgeon general who served in the Donald Trump administration, tweeted, arguing that “in hindsight this should’ve been billed as a 3 dose (2 for J&J) series anyway.” The NBA already has strict Covid-19 policies for its players, which include unvaccinated players not being able to eat with vaccinated players. Unvaccinated NBA players are also required to socially distance themselves from vaccinated players and must wear face masks.

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A Greek expert says 4 months. He should talk to the NBA.

Expert Committee Member Calls For Booster Covid Shot After 4 Months (K.)

People who have been vaccinated against the novel coronavirus should get their booster shot four instead of six months after their last dose to stem transmission and the possibility of serious illness, a member of the committee of experts advising the government on the pandemic, said on Tuesday. “When the vaccines first came out, they had this incredible effectiveness that we believed would last for some time. I had also said that we should be covered for six months. But new studies have shown that their effectiveness starts to wane after four months, mainly for mild infections, which do not lead to death but are still a transmission risk,” Theodoros Vassilakopoulos, an Athens University professor of pulmonary and critical care medicine, told Skai television.


The booster “needs come sooner,” he said, warning that “the worst obviously still lies ahead,” after Greece on Monday broke a new record with 7,335 new infections in 24 hours. He added that while being vaccinated protects most people from serious illness, this is not the case for people over the age of 60, who are particularly vulnerable. “The vaccinated need to be protected by having the option of getting their booster shot earlier, at four months at least,” he said. “Science is a process of seeking the truth through experimentation and study. We have to rethink or adjust what we know as new evidence emerges,” said Vassilakopoulos.

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Yeah, 3-5 times annual, that is.

COVID Boosters Likely to Be Annual ‘For the Foreseeable Future’ (ET)

From Nov. 8, COVID booster shots will be available for all adult Australians six months after they got their second dose. Around 1.7 million people will be eligible for a booster dose by 2022, a move making Australia the second country in the world after Israel to offer boosters to all ages. Australia has reached the 80 percent full vaccination rate last week, with Prime Minister Scott Morrison praising it as “another magnificent milestone.” At the state level, however, only New South Wales, Victoria, and the Australian Capital Territory have reached this number. The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), the country’s medicine and therapeutics regulator have approved Pfizer as a booster dose. Pfizer booster shots will be given to people even if they had other vaccines for their first two doses.


For those who have an allergic or adverse reaction to Pfizer, the AstraZeneca vaccine will be given instead. While boosters are not required for international travel, states and territories will decide whether to make it mandatory for residents to be fully vaccinated. Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews suggested last month that booster shots may be needed for those who are fully vaccinated to retain their freedoms. “A month before your six months is up, then you will get a message and your vaccination certificate, the thing that gets you the green tick. You’ll be prompted to go and book a time to go and have your booster shot,” Andrews said. “There may be state clinics in that or it might be all done through GPs and pharmacies, that hasn’t been worked through yet. We’re happy to play our part, though. So it’ll be about the maintenance of your vaccination status.”

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Ideally, it wants you to be sick your entire life.

Medicine Wants to Kill You (Kunstler)

It bears repeating that whatever Covid-19 actually is or where it came from, it’s a disease not a whole lot more deadly in the general population than the flu in a bad season; that in the natural course of things, it would have probably only killed mostly the very old and already sick, and that the rest of the population would have soldiered through it and acquired a sturdy natural immunity superior to anything the vaxxes might confer (even in theory). My own doctor tried to persuade me to get vaxed-up during a routine physical in October. I asked him if he was aware of the thousands of deaths and disabling adverse events reported on the CDC’s VAERS system. He said the numbers were not true and went on to say that he had “one hundred percent confidence in the vaccines.”

He’s always appeared to be a smart and capable person. A year or so ago he was enlisted to act as an executive administrator in the health care org he practices in, and now only sees patients two days a week. Perhaps that leaves him no time to follow the news. Or maybe he has no inclination to follow any news except what comes from sources like cable TV channels, which are almost entirely sponsored by the Pharma industry. The bottom line for me is that he has compromised my faith in his judgment. I wonder how many other people feel that way about their doctors. The medical profession was already in trouble before Covid came on the scene. It had entered into a demonic symbiotic relationship with the insurance industry that amounted to pervasive racketeering. (Just imagine the hospital bills of all those people with adverse vax reactions that the doctors affected to be mystified by, and ran countless, fruitless tests on.)

The good news for now is that a federal court has stayed the “Joe Biden” vax mandates. The government is expected to dispute that decision today (Monday Nov 8). Meanwhile, the rumor of a general strike against vaccine tyranny, set for today through Thursday, is in the air and we’ll have to stand by to see if anything happens. We should also be standing by in the weeks ahead to see how many more people begin to show symptoms of developing serious bodily disorders from the multiple shots they have been suffered to take.

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“..the bottom line is this: You take a jab because you believe it will protect you. That’s the beginning and end of it. There is never any other argument available because the risk of adverse events is always yours.”

Will You Ever Care To SOLVE The Problem? (Denninger)

I came of age in the early 1980s. Anyone who says that there have been all these “mandates” to get shots on a durable basis, and that everyone has had to prove it, is 100% full of crap. It’s a flat-out lie. I went to college on my own — both enrolling in a community college while still in High School to take a couple of classes and in college generally until I quit, making more money than it was costing to go to school. I was never asked for any evidence that I had received a single vaccination of any sort. Never. I’ve never been asked to prove my vaccination status for any disease ever in my life. Not once since I became sentient have I, or anyone in my family, ever been asked to prove I’d been immunized against anything. Want to know why? Because there was a hell of a hangover from the mid to late 1970s mess at the time where once again pharma lied, people died and nobody was going anywhere near that bull****.

Yes, by the year 2000 things had changed. People forgot what had happened and who had gotten away with it. The schools wanted evidence my daughter had the “routine” childhood shots. I objected to exactly none of them so there was no foul. All, in my opinion, were in fact safer than the disease and effective in preventing it. Thus administration was voluntary. So let’s solve the problem. No mandates. Period. Zero. Not for measles, DTaP, HIB, nothing. Recommendations, yes. Strong ones. But folks, the bottom line is this: You take a jab because you believe it will protect you. That’s the beginning and end of it. There is never any other argument available because the risk of adverse events is always yours. If the shot harms or kills you that’s on you, so the case to make is that it is less dangerous for you to take the shot than risk the disease. If you can’t make that case on a conclusive basis then sit down and shut up.

Manufacturers are required to publish true and accurate statistics on so-called “breakthroughs” and all adverse events. Health providers are required by law to report all adverse events as they are now, but failure to do so gets you 10 years in prison and permanent revocation of your medical license throughout the US — no ifs, ands or buts. Manufacturers are held to strict liability at the letter of their claims. If you can’t make the case that it is safer to take the shot while telling the truth then you don’t sell any shots. If you lie you are fully legally accountable, period. All medication has risks so as long as the risk is truthfully disclosed in terms of outcomes and odds, and the person chooses to take it, that’s their decision and it’s fine. The NCVIA and PREP Act are both repealed. This is not a request, by the way. It’s demand we are willing to enforce by destroying every firm along with all of the directors and officers shielded by these acts, physically if necessary, if refused.

And, since we’re dealing with this mess, I want to add another provision: Any competent adult may purchase any drug, allegedly “prescription”, over the counter against medical advice and a pharmacist may not refuse to fill it, for any other than a DEA-scheduled controlled substance being purchased beyond reasonable personal use limits, save in one instance: They are able to document, by scientific evidence, a direct contraindication as a result of conflict with some other drug the person is consuming. Such an “AMA” purchase shall absolve the pharmacist along with any physician or other medical facility involved in all liability for the outcome of such consumption If I want to take HCQ and/or Ivermectin if I get the Coof, and add Budesonide to that, I can irrespective of whether a pharmacist or physician likes it or not. If I kill myself doing it that’s on me.

My physician (and pharmacist) is thus returned to their rightful role: That of a paid expert who issues recommendations but under no circumstance can they prohibit or mandate any particular course of action, including the use or withholding of a treatment or drug, for a given condition. It is my ass and thus must be my choice.

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Big stories about molnupiravir as a 3CLPro Inhibitor. We don’t need it.

3CLPro Inhibitors As Potential Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Agents (Nature)

Emerging outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection is a major threat to public health. The morbidity is increasing due to lack of SARS-CoV-2 specific drugs. Herein, we have identified potential drugs that target the 3-chymotrypsin like protease (3CLpro), the main protease that is pivotal for the replication of SARS-CoV-2. Computational molecular modeling was used to screen 3987 FDA approved drugs, and 47 drugs were selected to study their inhibitory effects on SARS-CoV-2 specific 3CLpro enzyme in vitro.


Our results indicate that boceprevir, ombitasvir, paritaprevir, tipranavir, ivermectin, and micafungin exhibited inhibitory effect towards 3CLpro enzymatic activity. The 100 ns molecular dynamics simulation studies showed that ivermectin may require homodimeric form of 3CLpro enzyme for its inhibitory activity. In summary, these molecules could be useful to develop highly specific therapeutically viable drugs to inhibit the SARS-CoV-2 replication either alone or in combination with drugs specific for other SARS-CoV-2 viral targets.

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“The potential consequences of vaccines crossing the natural blood-brain barrier in children’s developing brains are of the utmost concern to all future humanity.”

Applying Brakes On ‘Warp Speed’ Covid-19 Vaccinations For Children (WT)

One of the worst medical disasters was diethylstilbestrol (DES) which was commonly prescribed as an anti-miscarriage medication in the 1940s. It was recalled 30 years later after it was connected to a rare tumor that appeared in the next generation of daughters of women who had taken it. We rarely know everything about a new drug when it’s approved, and we must brace ourselves for side effects we may only learn of years later. The history of medicine documents time and time again tragic examples of new drugs causing unsuspected problems discovered after release. The challenge for researchers to identify new COVID-19 viral target proteins and then to adapt existing manufacturing platforms already shown to be safe for vaccines against other pathogens is already a daunting endeavor.

However, using a new, rapid, but previously untested manufacturing technology (mRNA or DNA) introduced a second variable. Herein lies the problem that every science student is taught to avoid: changing two variables simultaneously in a single experiment. This violates the classic scientific method. In this case, the vaccines generated were comprised of active (COVID-19 viral sequences) and inactive components (manufacturing ingredients, including any impurities), neither of which had a prior favorable safety track record in healthy adults or children. But how likely is the risk of an epidemic of long-term medical complications worse than the pandemic itself, say five years from now?

RNA-based vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) could trigger any number of autoimmune diseases, which can take years to manifest. This is because the resulting combination of viral and normal self-proteins expressed by any cell, which takes up mRNA, creates a brand-new target on normal cells, which the immune system potentially recognizes as foreign and attacks. mRNA also activates danger sensors in the primal immune system, which in turn indirectly promotes the release of pro-inflammation factors, specifically interferons, which have been associated with autoimmunity. This issue is underscored by a clinical trial of an mRNA lung cancer vaccine in 2019, in which blood tests revealed elevated indicators for autoimmunity concerns in 20% of patients.

Immune responses directly against RNA molecules themselves cause autoimmune diseases, such as systemic lupus. In 2014 in the early days of the technology, an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine inventor published on this potential long-term concern of mRNA vaccines. Finally, none of the mRNA vaccines has a built-in “off” switch to control where they travel in the body and how long they persist there. Published animal safety studies showed traces of COVID-19 spike protein in the brain, heart, and other vital organs, and the European Medicines Agency’s assessment report acknowledged that low levels of mRNA itself were detected in most tissues. The potential consequences of vaccines crossing the natural blood-brain barrier in children’s developing brains are of the utmost concern to all future humanity.

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“What should we anticipate? Children of different ages being barred from mingling. Children being bullied, ridiculed and mocked, with taunts using terms like “covidiot.”

Vaccine Passports: Institutionalized Segregation (BI)

Increasingly, vaccination is no longer a matter of choice. Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of workplaces and schools are instituting COVID-19 vaccine mandates, with more expected following formal FDA licensure of the vaccines. But mandating people and their children who have consciously chosen not to get vaccinated — a group that tends to be younger, less educated, Republican, non-white and uninsured — is a recipe for creating new and deeper fractures within our society, the kind of fractures we may profoundly regret in hindsight. Let’s not sugarcoat it: This is a new form of institutionalized segregation. Yes, some unvaccinated adults may swallow this bitter pill and comply as a way of doing their part in making America safer.

But many will see it — along with requirements that the unvaccinated wear masks or undergo regular COVID testing — as a thinly veiled attempt at public shaming. After all, if the goal is to maximize the interruption of spread, then surely all people should be masked irrespective of vaccination status. Forced compliance will come with future consequences. The ensuing anger, resentment and loss of trust forms a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. Are we ready to add this mandate to the list of issues helping erode the fabric of our society? These practices diverge substantially from the historical norm of equal opportunity. For all other required vaccines, religious and philosophical exemptions allow unvaccinated children to enjoy the same educational experience as the vaccinated.

This is because exemptions reflect a social value that in the United States, there are valid reasons for refusing treatments or vaccines, and these reasons will be respected. Once exempt, there are no sanctions experienced in everyday life. But with COVID vaccine mandates, even those with exemptions are being sanctioned, sending another clear message: We really don’t care about your reasons. And in schools, where a child’s experience will be shaped by their parents’ decisions and those of policymakers, the situation could become tragic. If schools invite vaccinated children to lose their masks, what was once an act of social responsibility could morph into a mark of disease. What should we anticipate? Children of different ages being barred from mingling. Children being bullied, ridiculed and mocked, with taunts using terms like “covidiot.”

Differential treatment toward unvaccinated children by some teachers (who are, just like everyone else, individuals with their own views about COVID vaccines). And families deciding to withdraw from formal education, choosing instead to home-school. Vaccinate-or-mask policies will drive a wedge between children and parents, cause daily psychological harm, carrying long lasting consequences for future generations. Some might see mandate resistance as a symptom of vaccine misinformation. But considering most of these individuals have complied with mandates for routine vaccines such as mumps and measles, diseases of far less societal consequence than COVID, is it not worth listening to their objections against COVID vaccine mandates?

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“When you are imposing a measure which restricts liberty and undermines human rights, the measure should be necessary and proportionate. Vaccine passports are not.”

UK Health Expert: Vaccine Passports Make No Sense (DR)

One of the UK’s most respected public health experts has called on the Scottish Government to scrap its “ridiculous and discriminatory” vaccine passport scheme. Professor Allyson Pollock spoke out after a study by The Lancet medical bible found double-jabbed people can be just as likely to pass on Covid-19. The research appears to blow a hole in the argument for controversial new laws in Scotland requiring proof of vaccination to enter football grounds and nightclubs. The Scottish Government forged ahead with the scheme, along with a mobile phone app, despite Westminster ditching its plans. Pollock, a clinical professor of public health at Newcastle University, said: “Vaccine passports don’t make public health sense. Your vaccination status tells us nothing about whether you’re infectious or transmitting at that moment in time.

“Even if you’re vaccinated, you may well become infected or re-infected and you may also transmit the virus. “So passports make no sense. They are a ridiculous, discriminatory and disproportionate measure because they tell you nothing about the individual’s risk or what the background prevalence of infection is. “It is very surprising that Scotland has chosen to introduce them given the First Minister claims to be a strong believer in human rights. When you are imposing a measure which restricts liberty and undermines human rights, the measure should be necessary and proportionate. Vaccine passports are not.” Pollock – an ex-member of Covid advisory panel Independent SAGE – spoke out in the wake of the Lancet study last week. Researchers discovered that while vaccines do an excellent job of preventing serious Covid illness and deaths, they are less good at stopping infections.

This is understood to be particularly true since the emergence of the more infectious Delta variant, which is dominant in the UK. Pollock added: “The question that has to be asked is why has the Scottish Government implemented vaccine passports. “Is it to stop transmission and infection or is it a coercive measure to make people have a vaccine. “You really need to be very clear about why are you doing this and that is what parliaments in Edinburgh and Westminster should be debating. “My advice to Nicola Sturgeon would be simple – stop using passports. “If you think that having lots of mass gatherings – nightclubs and things like that – are going to be to too dangerous, then you need to take a decision not to have them. “Clearly there has been pressure to open up the economy and perhaps it is thought vaccine passports offer a reassurance but it is a false reassurance, not a public health measure.

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There are no data on myocarditis from Covid.

The Cause of Myocarditis: COVID19 or COVID19 Vaccination? (BI)

Which causes more myocarditis: COVID19 or COVID19 vaccination? This question should be answered easily, yet here you are, reading this. First, let us agree to the terms: We want to know the rate of myocarditis after COVID19 or vaccination for individuals. Since we know age and gender, it would be useful to know these rates by age and gender. For instance, what is the rate of myocarditis in a boy between the ages of 12-15 if they get COVID19 vs. if they get the vaccination, or alternatively, what are those rates in a 40-45 year old woman? Lumping everyone together— from 12 year old boys to 80 year old women—would be silly. Let us be honest. This is not asking for the moon. It is a simple question. The answer should be very clear. In fact, one could present it as a table.

Second, let’s be very clear about the fraction we are after. When it comes to myocarditis after COVID19 we want the following: Number of cases of myocarditis within 14 or 21 days after vaccination (excess) / Number of vaccinations given For rates of myocarditis after COVID19 we want the following: Number of cases of myocarditis within 14 or 21 days after COVID19 (excess) / Number of infections of COVID19. When it comes to the former, the FDA has given us a clear number for boys aged 12 to 15 and 16 to 18 (orange bars). This is FDA’s slide; the data come from OPTUM health This translates into a risk of myocarditis of 179 per million in boys aged 12 to 15, and 196 per million in boys aged 16 to 18. That is a rate of 1 in 5,600 and 1 in 5,100 respectively. (Note: I am not citing a preprint here, I am citing the FDA’s own slides)

Now what about the rate of myocarditis after COVID19? To perform this calculation you need the numerator of excess myocarditis cases after infection and divide that by the number of people who have been infected. While many publications have reported the numerator, the denominator requires serologic testing. You need to know people who were infected who may not have even showed symptoms. You cannot use cases presenting to health care systems as the denominator, as that is is not the totality of infections. A reader can correct me if I am wrong but, I have not seen ANY analysis that uses the denominator of infections. Many papers model this denominator, but the correct method would be to perform seroprevalence of a large cohort. Can anyone provide a link to such a paper— one that uses a denominator of seroprevalence?

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“We have to be ready to go every day, all the time,” Berger explained. “We are the ready force. We have to be ready to go.”

That’s exactly the problem, isn’t it?

Marines Chief Blames ‘Disinformation’ For Remaining Unvaccinated Troops (WE)

Marine Corps Commandant Gen. David Berger cited “disinformation” as the reason there are thousands under his leadership who have not yet been vaccinated for the coronavirus. Berger said Thursday during the Aspen Security Forum that the force is being “challenged by disinformation … that still swirls around about where the genesis, how did this vaccine get approved, is it safe, is it ethical — all that swirls around on the internet, and they see all that, they read all that.” As of last Monday, 93% of Marines were partially or fully vaccinated against the coronavirus, according to Pentagon spokesman John Kirby. Each Marine must be vaccinated by Nov. 28, but troops are not considered fully vaccinated until two weeks after the final dose of a two-shot vaccine or that same time period after a one-shot dose.


This means the final shot will actually have to be given by this Sunday. “We have to be ready to go every day, all the time,” Berger explained. “We are the ready force. We have to be ready to go.” He also noted that there are more than a dozen non-COVID-19 vaccinations that troops are required to receive, though some are specific to troops in certain locations. “Just to get through boot camp, you got to get 12 vaccinations,” he said. If the vaccination rate of the Marines remains the same until the deadline, it would leave more than 12,500 Marines unvaccinated, according to Military.com. The Nov. 28 deadline for the Marines is the same for the Navy, which has reported that active-duty sailors have a 99% vaccination rate. The Air Force is the only military branch whose vaccination deadline has passed, being last Tuesday. Slightly less than 96% was vaccinated in time, while roughly 8,500 remain unvaccinated.

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  • #91934
    chooch
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    I checked, it was moderna. I guess at the time he thought 3x the spikes would be good for long Covid.

    #91935
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    “It has been frequently noted that forums such as these have a tendency to attract the INTJ “Architect” type.”

    That would be me right there.

    #91936
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Just because I fell in love with the expression when it was used to describe my apparel when camping last week, I share this image of me in a “Canadian tuxedo”:

    tux

    #91937
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    It has been frequently noted that forums such as these have a tendency to attract the INTJ “Architect” type.

    Imagine that.

    I’ve taken the Myers–Briggs test three times thus far in 1987, 2001 & 2018 with the same result every time ~ INTJ.

    The more things change, the more they remain the same.

    But they may be cynical about human nature more generally, assuming that most people are lazy, unimaginative, or simply doomed to mediocrity.

    Prove me wrong. I double dog dare you 😉

    #91938
    zerosum
    Participant

    Did you hear …..The cry heard around the world
    SNOB says,
    “I’m the boss …. do as I say or you will regret not doing what I say”

    In other words …

    “If people are in our health-care system are not recognizing the importance of vaccination, then this is probably not the right profession for them, to be frank.”

    COVID cases in Canada tracker: how many new cases of COVID-19 today?


    Provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry and Health Minister Adrian Dix are scheduled to speak at 1:30 p.m.

    More than 3,000 unvaccinated health workers in B.C. on unpaid leave, Dix says
    On Nov. 1, health officials said 3,325 health-care workers, or about 2.6 per cent of the workforce, were not yet vaccinated and had been placed on unpaid leave.
    Health Minister Adrian Dix said that as of midnight Sunday, about 122,000 of B.C.’s 127,500 health-care workers have been fully vaccinated, or almost 96 per cent. Another 2,064 workers have received one dose, while the remainder is not vaccinated and on leave.

    (11,000 of health care workers have recovered and now have herd immunity)

    In BC At least 202,898 cases have recovered. (have herd immunity)

    To date, ( November 9, 2021), approximately 4.1% of British Columbia residents have had a confirmed case of COVID-19. ( approx. 4.1% of BC residents have herd immunity)

    Coronavirus Tracker,Canada
    TOTAL CONFIRMED CASES
    1,735,607
    Active Cases
    24,177
    Deaths
    29,197
    Recovered – (have herd jmmunity in Canada)
    1,682,233

    Tests
    47,368,729

    #91939
    John Day
    Participant

    @Susmarie108: Thank you for the exceedingly kind comment yesterday.
    (Will you please retract it? The pressure is unbearable…)
    John-says-ask-my-wife

    #91940
    Susmarie108
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    @ Dr. D: ” I’m not trying to ask Bosco out on a date here…no offense.”

    Oh, so there are limitations and conditions? …I missed you Brother – but don’t make too much out of my saying it.

    You reduced/restricted the potency of LOVE by placing a (defensive) “barrier” around it. Not sure why you felt the need to do so. To LOVE is in your control, you can CHOOSE it and share it. Why hold back?

    One of my all-time favorite books, A Man’s Search for Meaning – by Victor Frankl, explores the concept of choosing. A strong case is made for taking on life’s greatest task – finding meaning in one’s life. The meaning of life comes through experiencing it, and then in choosing your response. Always turning! Turning! Turning!

    Turn! Turn! Turn!

    To everything (turn, turn, turn)
    There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
    And a time to every purpose, under heaven
    A time to be born, a time to die
    A time to plant, a time to reap
    A time to kill, a time to heal
    A time to laugh, a time to weep
    To everything (turn, turn, turn)
    There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
    And a time to every purpose, under heaven
    A time to build up, a time to break down
    A time to dance, a time to mourn
    A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together
    To everything (turn, turn, turn)
    There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
    And a time to every purpose, under heaven
    A time of love, a time of hate
    A time of war, a time of peace
    A time you may embrace, a time to refrain from embracing
    To everything (turn, turn, turn)
    There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
    And a time to every purpose, under heaven
    A time to gain, a time to lose
    A time to rend, a time to sew
    A time for love, a time for hate
    A time for peace, I swear it’s not too late

    LOVE to All.
    Susan

    #91941
    John Day
    Participant

    @Boscohorowitz: A plastic surgeon should excise that thing on your back with WIDE MARGINS, ASAP.

    I wish you well.

    #91942
    John Day
    Participant

    Nice Canadian-Tuxedo.
    Shouldn’t you have a tuque on your head or in your hand to complete the ensemble?

    #91943
    those darned kids
    Participant

    hmmmm…

    virginia lost, mandate crumbling, approval rating near absolute zero?

    next stop, nicaragua for some good ol’ freedoming!

    #91944
    laffin_boy
    Participant

    @ Mister Roboto:
    It has been frequently noted that forums such as these have a tendency to attract the INTJ type.

    Sorry but as a strong INTJ my experience has been that this forum tends to be overpopulated by xNFx types (where x = either choice). To oversimplify, “T’s” tend to be less “guided” by their emotions and more by what appear to be “facts” – whether those “facts” are desirable or not. (research Myers-Briggs personality types to understand what i’m talking about)

    If our host and those collected here to follow his thoughts were “NT’s” then the content here would be much more like the excellent Dr. Chetty video posted by Michael Reid. Because our real problem is not Covid or governmental stupidity. It’s not the “Little Managers” problem that our host can’t seem to move past. – it’s the horrifying fact that there’s a GLOBAL PLAN to replace all existing governments with the world’s first planet-wide Totalitarian Corporate State.

    This threat seemed to come out of nowhere in the beginning of 2020 but the WEF has been working outside of our peripheral vision for years. And because their immediate problem is financial they had no choice but to spring this takeover now – before the global financial system goes “poof” – along with their make-believe “wealth”.

    They may have jumped too soon – and we’ll probably know within the next 6 mos whether that’s true or not. But that only points out the scale of the human tragedy here – that our best hope to come out of this with any freedoms left at all depends on their ineptitude or poor timing rather than our response to it. Because the fact that we outnumber them a zillion to one has not helped us at all. For 2 reasons: (a) their use of their overpowering but invisible weapon – propaganda – and (b) the fact that their agenda is TOO MONSTROUS for normal people to accept.

    So instead we rationalize with them. We explain sensibly how their policies aren’t medically necessary. Or fair! How they don’t seem to understand how science is supposed to work. But this response is not really aimed at them at all! It’s a response tailored to maintain our comfort level – our mythology that we still live under a rational democratic system of government. Because the alternative – the reality that we actually face – is too horrible to contemplate.

    But if we actually had any cojones, if we were collectively willing to face the reality of the world as it is today this threat would be gone in a week. Instead I pray for their miscalculations rather than waiting for my fellow “deplorable’s” to give up their comfortable delusions.

    #91945
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “I’m not trying to ask Bosco out on a date here…no offense.”

    I’m reminded of a quip by an old high school friend of mine. Paraphrased due to memory failure:

    “So what if I’m easily fooled and prone to delusion? All I can do is wear a cute dress and some Chanel # 5 and hope that Fate mistakes me for an easy date.”

    Sometimes it’s wise to be a tad reluctant of homoeroticism, especially with a man who’s known as:

    horn

    *snigger*

    Fwiw, I think you’ve given me the full loving measure: you accept me as I am. My motto is that ‘like’ is approval while ‘love’ is acceptance.

    ***

    I love that scene in Frankl’s book where, rescued from extermination in a Nazi copncentration camp, he sees the little bird in the morning sunlight.

    ***

    btw, it occurs to me that it may not be entirely coincidental that we escalated in Nam around the time Hogan’s Heroes did such a good job of defanging the culturally enshrined image of Germans as evil barbarians with no conscience. They tried to replace Nazis/Chinks with gooks but one too many picture of napalm babies en flambeau by our bombs for the hatred to stick.

    By 1980, we had Iran and our new enemy: sand nigrahs.

    Today it’s Russia, China again, and the unvaccinated. They appear to be going all-out.

    ***
    John Day: outside the paramedic circle, I’m not sure that ASAP has a reliable functional meaning in the Euromerican medical complex. But whatever. Today is today. Tomorrow will be tomorrow. Sooner or later, somebody’s bound to be standing over somebody’s grave.

    #91946
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “no particular message, but it’s duke, the greatest human ever to arise from the swamps of the potomac, and one of the principal reasons god invented america.”
    Ain’t he just swell? Thx:) Didn’t know that video exists. You have made my day and my whole week just might never got off the A train.

    ***
    Regarding my old high school chum:
    This fellow has never addressed his mental health issues and it shows: he’s a flat earther who believe the Rothschilds have giant underground tunnels crisscrossing the globe (with or without ley line associations — I forget), space travel is impossible including the fact that spaceships will smack into the Firmament, and jet engines run on compressed air sans fuel.
    (He called me a “fucking ninny” for pointing out the countless ways that known physics makes this impossible. It was saddening but insightful and just plain fascinating. And he doesn’t even work for the CIA or NSA. He does it all on his own!)
    Possibly the smartest manh I’ve known captured his essence here:

    billy

    #91947
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    laffin boy: you’re welcome to swing by my place and physically inspect my cajones up close. Orally. With a mouthful of Listerine. My balls need gargling.

    Get back to us when you have determined how to make humanity do your bidding and rise up together to Smash the Man and all that glorious stuff. I’m sure that you of all people have figured out a way to bell that cat. I’m sure you can make the Glorious Revolution and that yours won’t be even more disastrous than that against which it revolts. You are obviously The Man. Our own Little Lenin.

    Meanwhile try telling us something that doesn’t already get said here about a dozen times a week:

    ” it’s the horrifying fact that there’s a GLOBAL PLAN to replace all existing governments with the world’s first planet-wide Totalitarian Corporate State.”

    We already know that rich megabillionaires and such would like to rule the world. Really. We’d kinda noticed that. We disagree over how imnportant a factor this is, and how likely they are to succeed at it, but we have noticed that megalomaniacs generaly do fit their description.

    Raul has his issues as do all human beings, but somehow I suspect that a crucial lack of courage or moral resolve is among them.

    SInce you came out swinging ad hominem at virtually every soul-shadow in the room, I’ll reply in kind, per the Golden Rule:

    Life is short; talk is cheap

    #91948
    zerosum
    Participant

    If covid changes all the time, is it possible to acquire natural or vaccine immunity?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/naturally-acquired-immunity-versus-vaccine-acquired-immunity

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/naturally-acquired-immunity-versus-vaccine-acquired-immunity_4082499.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge

    Naturally Acquired Immunity Versus Vaccine Acquired Immunity
    Science and public policy seem to disagree over which one is better
    By Jennifer Margulis November 9, 2021

    “Vaccine-induced immunity can never be as long-lasting and robust as naturally acquired immunity,” said Lentz-Marino, who taught chemistry and biology classes at Mount Holyoke College in South Hadley, Massachusetts, for more than 20 years. “The human immune system knows what it’s doing. We are an incredibly successful species. There would not be close to 8 billion people on the planet otherwise.”

    #91949
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “including the fact that spaceships”

    notion not ‘fact’

    #91950
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Regarding global corp statehood, I read this book 10-15 years ago. The fact that the dominant emerging form of government is what is loosely called the “market state” is well laid out in this book without any need to rely on heavy-breathing geriatric baby-humping biollionaires. Greedy sociopathic rulers are as old as Chinese oracle bones. The size of empire has steadily expanded through the millennia, going as far as the resource/technology base of the time would allow.

    Our modern consumer society would morph into market state-hood even if Zuckerberg had never learned to write hex code. When an entire species is bent on sucking the planet and all non-human life into scattered waste heaps, the concept of global corporatism is inevitable.

    The Shield of Achilles

    #91951
    those darned kids
    Participant

    you know, zero, my wife had the thing for 6 weeks last year, and i had not a sniffle. during that time i went nowhere, mostly to ensure i would not harm anybody.

    now, my government won’t let me go in many of those places.

    logic loses once again.

    #91952
    zerosum
    Participant

    those darned kids

    I had the same experience for 2-3 weeks.
    I later had a negative test for covid.
    Will our immune system be up to the task of protecting us in the future waves?

    #91953
    boscohorowitz
    Participant
    #91954
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Raul has his issues as do all human beings, but somehow I suspect that a crucial lack of courage or moral resolve is among them.

    I’m supposing you meant to insert the word “not” before “among”. 🙂

    #91955
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Is this the same person who used to write here?

    #91956
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “I’m supposing you meant to insert the word “not” before “among”. 🙂”

    Indeed. So oopsies.

    #91957
    deflationista
    Participant

    Beep. Bop. You’re a dummy. Boop.

    #91958
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Bannon is being generous. Beheading is humane unless you use a dull sword. Crucifixion or being burnt alive or merely pulled apart by an hysterical mob is more likely if he doesn’t suicide oe get taken out by a (presumably corporate) sniper a la JFK, which act will then of course be blamed on whomever seems to TPTB to be the most useful.

    ***

    In the McCarthy 50s, nuclear alert drills weren’t just in school; they were mandatory for the public too. Don’t know if its universal or varied state-to-state etc. Mothers got sick and tired of having to freak their kids out and ruin a picnic just because Dr. Strangelove wanted to play with his air raid siren. By the time I was in kindergarten in 196i in Chicago, we had tornado drills not nuclear drills. Duck’n’cover was actually reasonably effective for these, although we usually went downstairs to the furnace room. No one in public or the workplace was expected to do more than otice that the authorities were testing the air raid siren system.

    We don’t do those anymore although the nuclear threat is greater than ever. We do mass shooting safety drill, although I suppose those have mostly stopped.

    Now we walk around with masks and demand vaccination.

    This time around, when the people have had enough, it won’t just be a fadeaway of a former policy. As the body count rises, so will the propensity for civil outrage.

    And, as Nicole Foss (and Noam Chomsky and virtually every celebrity) demonstrates, one can be a genius, yea, even a genius at holistic analysis as is Nicole Foss, and still be a stark raving moron concerning things that align with your sociopolitical outlook a certain way.

    Seeing as how Trump fast-tracked the original Pfizer vaccine, Nicole’s attitude seems to be: Dump Trump but not his policies.

    ***

    At the doctor’s office today, a modest clinic with maybe 10 practitioners, covidiocy reigns, of course. It occurred to me that most medical personnel don’t have time to vet the validity of the mandated covid narrative. They’re too busy keeping up with increasing regulations, medications, & regimes amid an increasingly insane payment system.They can’t afford to doubt the word from on high, not necessarily because it could cost them their job, but because they don’t have time to vet the Official Word from the AMA/CDC/NiH.

    Ask your doctor abou…t what we told him to tell you.

    #91959
    zerosum
    Participant

    Help!!!!!
    Its your turn.
    Recommend a study that tell the truth and will help someone before their lips turn blue

    Wow. The key FLCCC paper on their main protocol has been retracted after understating the true number of deaths in the treatment group by ~78%

    Retracted coronavirus (COVID-19) papers

    #91960
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Even dumbbots need a hobby, I guess. It’s sad when someone is such a one-note johnny you can’t decide if they’re a robot or just a compulsive obsessive vendettaist.

    #91961
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    It’s sad when someone is such a one-note johnny you can’t decide if they’re a robot or just a compulsive obsessive vendettaist.

    Oh, I think it’s pretty obvious (the second one). The one INFJ virtue that seems to hold true most consistently is that we read people and situations very well.

    #91962
    deflationista
    Participant

    Beep. Dumbbot. Boop. One note. Bop. Johnny. Beep. Vendettaist. Bop. Compulsive obsessinve. Boop.

    #91963
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    You don’t say!

    #91964
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Get outta heah!

    #91965
    zerosum
    Participant

    Its your turn.
    Recommend a study that tell the truth and will help someone before their lips turn blue

    Meanwhile. The truth is going to come out.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/john-durham-getting-close-jugular

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/11/08/john_durham_is_getting_close_to_the_jugular_146702.html

    John Durham Is Getting Close to the Jugular

    #91966
    chooch
    Participant

    The circulatory system is closed loop and the heart is the pump that pressurizes this system to keep things flowing. The pressure is still high enough in the capillary beds that fluid and proteins get pushed out thru the small gaps that exist between adjacent endothelial cells that make up the walls of the capillaries. But here is the thing, at some point further along the capillaries the pressure differential changes and the fluid and proteins are drawn back in the capillaries thru these gaps. The total exchange in a day is 20 liters out and 17 liters in. So, the orthodoxy that the contents of the shot in the deltoid muscle will drain into the nearby lymph node is false one.
    A typical cell that the LNP will fuse with has 10 million ribosomes, the manufacturing material needed to crank out spikes. There is the potential to produce 150 million of these if the cell stays intact. These will be expressed on the surface and cleave off, free to move towards the lymph node our back into the blood stream thru the capillary walls. If the cell fails, potentially 10s of millions of spikes could be dumped.
    Now, lymph node near the deltoid muscle is not that far from the veins that run below your collar bones. This is where the lymph gets dumped back into the blood stream just above the heart. So, its not to hard to image that many of these spike making factories that get cranked up in the deltoid muscle could be entering the blood stream with quite a payload. The heart is a powerful muscle. The pressure above the heart, where the lymph is introduced is around 5mm Hg. When it exits into the arteries it is around 120mm Hg. It’s not a stretch to think that these spike making factories might get ripped apart in this environment. Maybe not the first trip around, but maybe the second or third. Just a theory, I really can’t prove it. Athletes do have strong hearts. Coincidence? Autopsies could settle the hypothesis.
    According to Malone, at a system level there is an amazing amount of spike protein being produced and ending up where it shouldn’t. Most doctors are void of this understanding and therefore don’t link these severe adverse events to the shots.

    #91967
    Mister Roboto
    Participant
    #91968
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Oh, I think it’s pretty obvious (the second one).”

    COnfirmation bias runs deep in all of us. WHile IU’m not invested in believing that the likes of def are human or not, the fact is that bots have gotten so good it’s become almost impossible to tell.

    The “Turing threshhold” has been crossed. Not entirely. Long term study of the output of such entities will eventually betray something obviously not human. But they’ve become really really good. You mentioned knowing when someone is too emotionaqlly invested in something. I submit that it’s possible for you or I to become so emotionally invested in believing that sucn entities are or aren’t human that we lose objectivity — something a bot never does — thereby putting ourselves at its advantage.

    Turing test

    One thing a decent bot studies is how emotionally invested we are in this or that.

    #91969
    boscohorowitz
    Participant
    #91970
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    It has also occurred to me that netbots could possibly have human minders who can occasionally chime in to throw the regular participants of a forum off the scent. I guess it just seems as though maybe we’re flattering ourselves just a tad by thinking we’re important enough here at TAE to have a bot “assigned” to us and our musings. (No offense, Raul, but the Internets are big ol’ place!)

    #91971
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    One thing a decent bot does (not saying def is a decent bot, not saying he isn’t) is test various logical fallacies on people. Remember, a bot has virtually unlimited data storage/access capacity, depending on its owner. (arf!) It can literally prodfile each of us in minute detail, store that data, integrate it with other details… in that sense, they are far superior to us.

    def seems determined currently to see how much traction it can get with the ‘but alternate covid treatments aren’t perfect nor are their promoters and marketers!’ fallacy. The fallacy being the idea that imperfection is a disqualifier, when after all, nothing is perfect except, maybe (just maybe) the core laws of physics, which if not perfect are at least supernally reliable.

    Any decent bot already knows how easily humans get sucked into arguments via ego and accompanying facets like our sense of justice and fair play (but mostly our pwesshus widdle egos). That’s old ho-hum stuff for what I will call an agit-bot.

    The bot doesn’t even care that much whether we doubt its humanity. So long as we engage with it, it’s doing its job and getting what it “wants”. Ignoring it is mostly futile so long as it can observe. Interacting with us is extra bonus pay but dicet too, because, if we merely toy with it, its data hygiene goes to shit.

    It reminds me of something I wrote about my experience as a Sally Ann bell-ringer many years ago:

    Shekina: during last Xmas’s bell&kettle gig, my friend Jay’d loaned me his Tibetan singing bowl. Same one I have now, up here. When struck, a singing bowl hums like a choir of tuning forks, the sound going through your body like that one second just before you realize you’re awake. All during the vicious freezing week before last Xmas, it’s soft bronze om toned incongruously warm through Albertson’s parking lot like a dinner bell for homeless people.

    Tap bell; heads turn. Tots in tow would wrench free of their mother’s hand to stare at me, this wild Noel creature wearing a bird’s nest sprouting faux reindeer antlers of Xmas tree branches. With a red clown nose. But after they’d passed and their tiny attention spans had turned to the next moment’s revelation, I’d tone the bell and their heads would whip around, eyes wide. One lad kept his eyes on me the entire walk to the far end of the parking lot, head rotated almost 180 degrees, his Mom smiling at him, then me, then him.

    Startled grownups would stare, sometimes almost angrily, hungry eyes howling like dogs at a passing ambulance siren. Recovering, they’d smile and wink as they entered the store. Exiting, they’d dutifully donate like they were passing through security at the North Pole and being scanned by a Good Kid/Bad Kid mettle detector.

    It wasn’t a job, it was performance art, busking on an hourly wage, convincing others and myself to suspend their disbelief. Paid to be a convincing kook, I was disturbingly good at it.

    I’d pretend I was a wind-up elf in a Macy’s Xmas window. It had to be subtle: a gently repeated slow-motion, a semi-wooden smile, not some break-dancer doing the robot. A good robot doesn’t try to act like a robot, it tries to act like a person. You have to believe the mythos you’re projecting for it to work. Imagining I was an android on the lam, desperately trying to pass for human in my camouflage Xmas troll suit, only my eyes showing. Like a black man passing for white in a Whites Only sauna. I think I got pretty good at it. Pawning myself off as a mechanical hominid posing human kept my mind off the cold.
    Closing my eyes, I’d summon my muse, the Waltzing Woman, and perform. Imagine the Xmas ballet’s Nutcracker doing Tai Chi. The Terminator looking for the one last hope of all mankind to skateboard across the lot in order to saved a young John Connor from the Tehminatuh T-1000.

    I knew I was in the zone when people ‘knew something was wrong’ but didn’t get the robot act. Thought I maybe had a neurological disorder. Parkinson’s, maybe. And what could be more human than feeling like an outsider trying to fit in?

    How do you mime being invisible? I’d like to see Marcel Marceau do that. Like household ghosts practicing Stanislavsky method-haunting, making you aware of them even though they’re invisible to your senses: be the ectoplasm! make them almost but not quite see you! smash the 4th wall!
    Can you tell I miss that month? I soaked up all that unearned kindness like frozen earth on a sunny winter day. The view from where I manned my red kettle in front of Albertsons waves at me when I remember it. Stare at the same horizon for hours and it will burn its silhouette in your memory.

    I knew every tree, telephone wire, and chimney of that parking lot skyline on a first name basis, sensed their mood swings as the light and wind changed through the day. After sunset, they’d remain in virtual sight, mental sonar reconfirming their location, and I could see the wind move them even in darkness. When the wind picked up, this one spruce named Freddie the Freeloader did this shuffle groove with its limbs, like a busstop waiter dancing in place to his iPod.

    By the end of the first week I had Pavlov’s Condition: when someone approached I’d unconsciously wiggle my bell hand like a dog wags its tail. I actually sustained a job-related injury: bell-ringer’s elbow, basically tennis elbow but with different etiology. Had to get a cortisone injection December 31st.
    New Years Eve sucked big booze bottles. It was the pain meds my doctor gave for that cortisone injection that set me off. Opiates make me irrationally exuberant and suddenly anything goes. Doc gave me the injection that morning, squeezing me in a crowded half day schedule, provided me with a few days’ supply of Tramadol samples, some supposedly subdued synthetic codeine that nonetheless got me higher than belfry bats, and I drank quite a bit after that. Perhaps I romanticize my bell-ringing because of how bad things got afterward?

    Counselor, I was sober for a whole. goddam. month. Longer. A biblical 40 days. It felt as epic to me as Moses in the wilderness. If I could ring a bell in the cold all year I would do so if it would let me be a decent human being. O counselor! I have failed everyone!
    <end>

    #91972
    Mister Roboto
    Participant
    #91973
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “It has also occurred to me that netbots could possibly have human minders who can occasionally chime in to throw the regular participants of a forum off the scent.”

    They do but that too is a dicey practice if the change becomes noticeable: from a bot imitating a human to a human imitating a bot.

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