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Vincent van Gogh Roofs of Paris 1886

 

No Booster… No Hassle-Free Foreign Travel (DM)
The Mandate on Business Intensifies the Crisis (Tucker)
Experts Rip CDC Study Claiming Vax Protection Beats Natural Immunity (JTN)
UK Excess Deaths At Home Soar Past 65,000 In Just 18 Months (Exp.)
When Will The CDC Correct Its Covid Death Counts, As Italy Just Did? (AT)
Doctors And Researchers Demand That Vaccination In Sweden Be Suspended (LRP)
World Record Freediver Diagnosed With Myopericarditis After Pfizer Vaccine (CW)
Jen Psaki , Gavin Newsom Not Been Seen in Public for Eleven Days (BN)
How Low Will He Go? Biden Approval Rating Now At 38% (JTN)
Stop Looking at Danchenko, Start Looking at Weissmann and Robert Mueller (CTH)
The Biggest Loser Of The Durham Indictments: James Comey’s FBI (JTN)

 

 

 

 

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“Ministers are drawing up plans to bring back tests and quarantine for those who refuse third Covid jab.”

No Booster… No Hassle-Free Foreign Travel (DM)

British travellers who fail to take their booster jabs face renewed restrictions, The Mail on Sunday can reveal. Plans to reimpose quarantine and testing for those who have refused their third vaccine are currently being drawn up by Ministers to protect the UK against the spread of new coronavirus variants. But they are likely to prove controversial if introduced before most of those eligible for their booster have received it. So far, only 60 per cent have done so. The move would change the definition of ‘fully vaccinated’ from having had two jabs to three. Officials are divided over how soon to implement the measure and are discussing a grace period that would allow people to travel without quarantine if they had sought a booster six months after their second jab but had not yet been offered an appointment.

Under the plans, modelled on the Israeli system, travellers would not be able to avoid the need for a third jab by producing evidence of a negative Covid-19 test. Last night a Government source said: ‘This is not going to happen immediately – but happen it will.’ The news came as Health Secretary Sajid Javid said almost 10 million people have now received their booster jab, but encouraged people to urge their elderly relatives to come forward. Boosters are currently available to over-50s, health workers and the clinically vulnerable, although the scheme is expected to be extended to the over-40s early next year.

Seven out of ten of those over 80 and three in five of the over-50s in England have had their third injection, which can be administered six months after the second. As at present, those who have not been fully vaccinated will have to self-isolate for ten full days on returning to the UK and pay for four expensive PCR tests, two before departure and two back on British soil. It is the definition of ‘fully vaccinated’ that will be extended to include only those who have accepted the booster.

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Overreach.

Opposition To New Biden Vaccine Mandate Explodes As 27 States Join Fight (JTN)

A total of 27 states so far have filed lawsuits against the Biden administration over the COVID-19 vaccine mandate on private businesses of 100 or more employees. The mandate, which is being enforced by the Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), will require employers to ensure all their employees are either vaccinated by Jan. 4 or are tested weekly and wearing masks. If the businesses do not follow the mandate, they could face fines of up to $14,000 per violation. All but one of the states that filed lawsuits, Iowa, have Republican attorneys general. Kansas, Kentucky, and Louisiana are the only three of the 27 states that have Democratic governors, and Iowa’s governor is a Republican.

Kansas Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly criticized President Biden’s vaccine mandate on private businesses on Friday, saying, “While I appreciate the intention to keep people safe, a goal I share, I don’t believe this directive is the correct, or the most effective, solution for Kansas.” Kelly is up for reelection next year, and her GOP challenger is the state attorney general, whose campaign called her out for waiting until the mandate went into effect to criticize it. As for Kentucky Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear, he said he’s unsure if the state lawsuits against the Biden administration over the vaccine mandate have merit, WDRB reported. “I don’t know the nuances of this lawsuit, but in the end, we have to follow the law as a state, so we will prepare to comply,” Beshear said.

According to Louisiana Democratic Gov. John Bel Edwards’ spokeswoman, he is reviewing the “directive” and “will continue to ensure that all state resources are available to assist those employers affected by the requirements,” The Advocate reported. Iowa Republican Gov. Kim Reynolds released a statement on the lawsuit that reads: “I believe the vaccine is the best defense against COVID-19, but I also firmly believe in Iowans’ right to make healthcare decisions based on what’s best for themselves and their families, and I remain committed to protecting those freedoms. President Biden should do the same.”

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“..the mandate is a masking and testing one, with an exemption permitted for the vaccinated. That little trick is designed to survive the flurries of inevitable court challenges.”

The Mandate on Business Intensifies the Crisis (Tucker)

It’s hard to imagine that public confidence in everything could fall further, but it surely will. This past week was emblematic. We saw Biden’s party face an electoral rout on Tuesday due mostly to pandemic policy – even the education controversies in Virginia trace to disastrous school closures – followed two days later by an intensification of those very policies with a vaccine mandate on companies with 100 or more employees. That was followed by an announcement from Pfizer the very next day that they have a new therapeutic pill that is 89% effective, in which case, why the vaccine mandate? That’s more than enough to make one’s head spin. But then it got worse: on the same day, the head of the CDC claimed on Twitter that masks reduce “your chance of Covid-19 infection by 80%,” a claim without a shred of evidence in the scientific literature.

At this point, it seems like they will say anything, knowing full well that the fact checkers will leave alone any high official in the federal government. Let’s focus on the mandate on business. The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has thankfully issued a stay on the entire order pending a closer review, citing grave constitutional problems with the OSHA order. The Biden administration is being asked to respond by tomorrow evening as of this writing. The edict itself relies most fundamentally on the claim that “immunity acquired through infection appears to be less protective than vaccination,” which is unproven and likely false. It is imposed in the midst of evidence all around us that the previous public-sector and contractor mandate has led to sickouts, resignations, and unpaid leave announcements hitting industrial sectors and cities all over the country, from airlines to fire departments to hospitals and academia.

In Senate testimony, Anthony Fauci cited the fantastic success of mandates at United Airlines while failing to mention the hundreds of firings and the pilot and staff revolt at every other airline. One would suppose that this mess would be enough to forestall more mandates but no: now all companies with 100 employees must force vaccines on its employees, or else pay fines of $13,600 per violation. More precisely, the mandate is a masking and testing one, with an exemption permitted for the vaccinated. That little trick is designed to survive the flurries of inevitable court challenges. Yes, it overtly creates a segregated caste system based on one’s willingness to submit to an injection via a government mandate. The rules come into effect on January 4, 2022, which means that businesses all over the country will spend the next two months trying to figure out what to do.

Same with workers, many millions of whom do not believe that they need, and thus do not want this vaccine that neither stops infection, nor transmission and is also associated with unusually high adverse effects for which the vaccine makers bear no liability. Buried in the gigantic text is a request for public comment on expanding this to all businesses of any size. So there is no real escape in the long run. It’s truly hard to imagine how this could happen in the U.S. But the same could be said about nearly everything that has happened in the last 21 months. Citizens are desperately struggling to get out from under the yoke of this despotism, and using every opportunity available to do so. Politicians who back these policies are being swept out of office. And yet they carry on. It appears that the sadistic state is quickly becoming a masochistic one.

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“It’s not even clear enough naturally immune people were hospitalized to reach statistical significance..”

Experts Rip CDC Study Claiming Vax Protection Beats Natural Immunity (JTN)

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published an “early release” study last week that uses a highly curated population to purportedly show that mRNA-vaccinated people have a much lower rate of reinfection by COVID-19 than naturally immune people, contradicting a much larger Israeli study this summer. The CDC study concludes: “All eligible persons should be vaccinated against COVID-19 as soon as possible, including unvaccinated persons previously infected with SARS-CoV-2.” The study analyzed “COVID-19–like illness hospitalizations among adults” across nine states from January through Sept. 2. Because public health authorities portrayed vaccination as the best way to avoid hospitalization, it’s less likely that vaccinated people would seek hospitalization, thus hiding their breakthrough infections relative to the naturally immune.

Attorney Jenin Younes, whose New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA) files legal challenges against COVID vaccine mandates, tweeted that the study contradicts a meta-analysis touted by the CDC, which found “no significant difference” in protection between vaccination and natural immunity. Immunologist Hooman Noorchashm, the medical expert for multiple NCLA challenges, called the study “another teleological piece of propaganda” by the CDC because it excludes the Johnson & Johnson vaccine and likely includes recovered people in the vaccinated group.

Harvard Medical School epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff tweeted that the study has a “major statistical flaw” — falsely portraying hospitalized respiratory patients as “representative of the population” — which renders the odds ratio “wrong.” Former New York Times journalist Alex Berenson argued the study “is meaningless gibberish that would never have been published if the agency did not face huge political pressure to get people vaccinated.” It’s not even clear enough naturally immune people were hospitalized to reach statistical significance, he said, noting there’s no unadjusted odds ratio.

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Nope, not a word about vaccines. It’s all very mysterious. What could it be?

UK Excess Deaths At Home Soar Past 65,000 In Just 18 Months (Exp.)

Figures from the Office of National Statistics for England and Wales show over the past eighteen months there have been at least 74,745 excess deaths – deaths above the five-year average – in private homes. Only 8,759 (12 percent) involved COVID-19. The deaths at home figures from 7 March, 2020 to 17 September, 2021 are 37 percent higher than the 2015 – 2019 average and the numbers are continuing to climb. Last week was the 16th week in a row where the ONS reported extra or “excess” deaths. The disturbing trend includes 15-19-year-old boys. Deaths in this group have risen by 30 percent between January and October this year compared to the same period in 2020 – from 355 to 462. This is 20 percent higher than the five-year average for this period which was 386.


Last night Professor Carl Heneghan, Director of Oxford University’s Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, called for an urgent inquiry into the circumstances behind the deaths to find out whether they could have been prevented. He said: “More people are dying of non-covid causes and we continue to see a considerable and continuing rise in excess deaths this year not caused by Covid-19 and occurring mostly in the home. This is extremely concerning. It is urgent we now launch a proper inquiry to find out whether these deaths could have been prevented. The death certificates only give a snapshot of what is actually going on. “We need to go beyond these and look at those deaths which may not have been covered by coroners. To understand the true cause and what can be done to reduce the high number of excess deaths, particularly those in the home setting.”

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Don’t worry, the first fact checks deriding the Italian Higher Institute of Health are already out.

When Will The CDC Correct Its Covid Death Counts, As Italy Just Did? (AT)

The Summit caught a fascinating story out of Italy: the Italian Higher Institute of Health decided it had miscounted COVID deaths. Instead of looking at people who died with COVID, as it once did, it looked only at people who died from COVID — leading to a 97% decrease in Italy’s COVID death count. So far, the CDC shows no signs of following suit. According to The Summit: “The Italian Higher Institute of Health has drastically reduced the country’s official COVID death toll number by over 97 per cent after changing the definition of a fatality to someone who died from COVID rather than with COVID. Italian newspaper Il Tempo reports that the Institute has revised downward the number of people who have died from COVID rather than with COVID from 130,000 to under 4,000. “Yes, you read that right. Turns out 97.1% of deaths hitherto attributed to Covid were not due directly to Covid,” writes Toby Young.

Of the of the 130,468 deaths registered as official COVID deaths since the start of the pandemic, only 3,783 are directly attributable to the virus alone. “All the other Italians who lost their lives had from between one and five pre-existing diseases. Of those aged over 67 who died, 7% had more than three co-morbidities, and 18% at least two,” writes Young. “According to the Institute, 65.8% of Italians who died after being infected with Covid were ill with arterial hypertension (high blood pressure), 23.5% had dementia, 29.3% had diabetes, and 24.8% atrial fibrillation. Add to that, 17.4% had lung problems, 16.3% had had cancer in the last five years and 15.7% suffered from previous heart failures.”

There’s more interesting material here, for the article discusses the ethics of overcounting to induce panic. Reading between the lines, the problem in Italy was that the socialized medicine system was unable to cope with an influx of patients during a bad flu season. (And it was a bad flu season.) The actual data match closely what those who are not panicking have observed in America. As with every flu season, there are unlucky young (and youngish) people who die from the flu. Overall, though, the ones who die are either very elderly or have comorbidities of the type described in the quoted material above. In America, however, counting COVID deaths is more of an art than it is a science (and that’s not even getting into the way the government incentivized hospitals to count COVID deaths).

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Google translate.

“..the vaccine had a good effect for about two months..”

Doctors And Researchers Demand That Vaccination In Sweden Be Suspended (LRP)

The British Medical Journal (BMJ) revealed on November 2, 2021 that a subcontractor to Pfizer was likely to conduct extensive research fraud during the Phase III study of Pfizer’s covid vaccine in the fall of 2020. The article’s main witness is Brook Jackson, in September 2020 , who worked on Pfizer’s vaccine studies. Jackson’s testimony shows that the company falsified data, blinded patients, hired insufficiently trained vaccinators and was slow to follow up on side effects reported in the Phase III study. The staff who performed quality checks were overwhelmed by the amount of problems they discovered. After repeatedly informing Ventavia of the shortcomings, Brook Jackson sent a complaint via email to the FDA (US Food and Drug Administration) on September 25, 2020.

Ventavia fired her later that day. In support of his criticism, Jackson has provided BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings and emails. BMJ substantiates her testimony with statements from many former employees at Ventavia. The article also states that the FDA never did any review of the business where Brook Jackson worked. The article describes that the FDA has too few resources to review clinical trials. In the years 2000 to 2005, only about 1 percent of all studies were reviewed, since then the number of reviews has decreased. In August 2021, the FDA published a summary of the number of reviews of Pfizer’s covid vaccine studies. A total of 9 of 153 study places had been examined, which corresponds to 6 percent of the study’s research centers.

We believe that what BMJ reported is extremely serious. This overturns confidence in Pfizer, which is responsible for testing the vaccine and for the safety of the vaccine currently used by Swedes, of whom hundreds of thousands are children. The extent of the number of reported suspected side effects of the covid vaccine is also gigantic, for example in Sweden during the ten months that vaccination has taken place 83,744 suspected side effects have been reported , which is more than 10 times more than all side effects reported per year during the most recent years for all drugs and vaccines, a total of about 25,000 substances. About twenty studies have shown that the effect of the vaccine is very weak. One of these studies, which is Swedish, showed that the vaccine had a good effect for about two months, that AstraZeneca’s vaccine had no effect against the delta variant after four months and that the same applied to Pfizer’s vaccine after seven months.

The strong suspicion that parts of the clinical trial of Pfizer’s vaccine have not been performed in a scientifically acceptable manner and where the study results can not be considered reliable, combined with the large extent of reported suspected side effects after vaccination, many of a serious nature, make us doctors , researchers and immunologists are deeply concerned. Not least for children who are at extremely low risk of serious illness with covid-19, but who are at risk of serious side effects. The fact that the vaccine’s effect has already subsided sharply after a few months and is weak against the delta variant of the virus contributes to our conclusion that covid vaccination in Sweden should be paused until risk / benefit calculations are made for all age groups. Our position is taken in the light of the revelation in BMJ and what we know today about the risks for the patient.

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End of career.

World Record Freediver Diagnosed With Myopericarditis After Pfizer Vaccine (CW)

Florian Dagoury, currently the world’s top static breath-hold free diver, has been diagnosed with myocarditis and pericarditis 40 days following his second dose with the Pfizer vaccine. He is known for the fact he officially held his breath for 10 minutes and 30 seconds. The elite Freediver, of French origin and based in Thailand, experienced a significant decrease in his breath-hold ability and went to a cardiologist who told him that it’s a common side effect of the Pfizer vaccine. Florian shared his experience on Instagram:

“Myocarditis, Pericarditis and Trivial Mitral regurgitation! Thank you Pfizer. Just want to share my annoying experience after vaccination and perhaps have some testimonials and similar stories around Freedivers. Did you get better? After my 2nd dose I noticed that my heart rate was way higher than normal and my breath hold capacities went down significantly. During sleep, I’m at 65-70bpm instead of 37-45bpm. During the day I’m now always over 100bpm instead of 65bpm, even when I sit down and relax. I once even reached 177bpm while having dinner with friends !!!! 10 days after my 2nd jab, I went to see a cardiologist and he told me it’s a common side effect of Pfizer vaccin, nothing to worry about, just rest it will pass. 40days after 2nd jab, I had no progress so I went to see another cardiologist and got diagnosed with Myocarditis, Pericarditis and Trivial Mitral regurgitation!

Which is basically an inflammation of the heart muscles caused by the immune system and some tiny leaks of blood from the valves that no longer close properly. I’m now struggling to reach 8min breath hold, 150m dyn and I even have a strong urge to breathe doing 40m dives. 30% decrease on my diving performance roughly. My first thought and recommendation to Freedivers around the world is to choose a vaccine which is done the old fashion way like Sputnik, Sinovac, Sinopharm etc…instead of those new mRNA vaccines.”

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Both have sudden family emergencies.

Jen Psaki , Gavin Newsom Not Been Seen in Public for Eleven Days (BN)

Ever since White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki announced that she had a case of Covid-19, despite being fully vaccinated, she has been absent from the public spotlight. This week her role was taken by Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, who just might be the least credible person on the planet. Psaki disclosed on October 31 that she had a “breatkthrough case” of Covid-19 in what she characterized as an abundance of transparency. “Psaki, who is fully vaccinated, said she has experienced only mild symptoms,” NPR reported. “In a statement, she said she had not had contact with senior White House officials since Wednesday — four days before she tested positive — and last saw Biden on Tuesday, when they were wearing masks and were more than six feet apart from each other, outdoors.”

“The White House had announced early on Thursday morning that Psaki would not be traveling with Biden to the G-20 summit in Rome due to a family emergency,” she said. “That emergency, she said on Sunday, was that members of her household had tested positive for COVID-19.” “Since then, I have quarantined and tested negative (via PCR) for COVID on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. However, today, I tested positive for COVID,” Psaki said. The last press conference given by Jen Psaki was on October 27. Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, who had multiple myeloma, was reported to have died from “complications of Covid,” despite the 84-year-old being “fully vaccinated.” Powell’s passing caused a spike in searches on breakthrough infections.

As of October 18, 2021, the CDC reports that 41,127 patients have been hospitalized or died as a result of breakthrough COVID infections. The CDC saays that there were 10,857 deaths resulting from breakthrough COVID infections. The CDC claims that there are 189 million fully vaccinated people in the U.S. If mortality rates for these vaccinated Americans were reported the same way ‘Covid-related deaths’ have been since 2020, we would be reading about tens of thousands of “vaccine-related deaths.” Jen Psaki’s disappearance since news of her ‘breakthrough infection’ accompanies another mysterious shrinking from public view: California Govenor Gavin Newsom. As reported earlier today, Gavin Newsom hasn’t been seen in public for eleven days, since he received a ‘mix-and-match’ booster shot. Newsom also explained his cancelation of his trip to Rome as a sudden family emergency.

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Don’t worry, Kamala is still lower..

How Low Will He Go? Biden Approval Rating Now At 38% (JTN)

President Joe Biden’s approval rating has sunk to its lowest point thus far at 38%, according to a new poll released Sunday. USA Today and Suffolk University conducted the poll between Wednesday and Friday last week, following the Democratic party’s loss in the Virginia state elections and as Biden’s legislative agenda was in flux on Capitol Hill, but prior to the passage of the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill, The Hill reported. Biden’s approval rating has continued declining in recent months, after the botched Afghanistan withdrawal, as a Harvard CAPS/Harris poll at the end of last month found it to be at 43%, a five-point reduction from the previous September poll, according to the news outlet.


According to the USA Today/Suffolk University poll, 46% of respondents said Biden’s job as president is worse than expected, including 16% who voted for him last year. A total of 44% of Independents said Biden’s performance is worse than expected. The poll also found that 64% of those surveyed, including 28% of Democrats, didn’t want to see Biden run for reelection in 2024. In comparison, 58% didn’t want to see former President Trump as the GOP presidential nominee for 2024, including 24% of Republicans. Last week, Biden responded to his declining poll numbers, saying “that’s not why I ran,” according to The Hill. He remarked on the volatility of polls, adding that he “didn’t run to determine how well I’m going to do in the polls.”

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FISA applications based on material they knew was false.

Stop Looking at Danchenko, Start Looking at Weissmann and Robert Mueller (CTH)

When Andrew Weissmann and crew entered the DOJ to effectively run the Trump-Russia investigation, their purpose was to: (1) continue what was ongoing; and (2) coverup all that came before. AG Jeff Sessions recused himself, and DAG Rod Rosenstein became the co-dependent enabler for the Weissmann crew’s needs. During a June 2020 Senate hearing, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein openly admitted to being nothing more than the rubber stamp for every request. Rosenstein approved every request, signed every authorization and agreed to every scope expansion Andrew Weissmann put in front of him. There was nothing Rosenstein ever denied the Weissmann crew. Team Weissmann, under the authorities of a blank-check special counsel, effectively ran Main Justice top to bottom for two years.

When you accept the framework Rosenstein later admitted was in place, then you understand that anything blocked from DOJ/FBI release (see Nunes pleas) was blocked by Weissmann Inc; and everything that ever came out of the DOJ/FBI was released by Weissmann Inc. Reread that as many times as needed until it sinks in. Back to the question about why the DOJ/FBI were protecting Danchenko by not exposing the lies that John Durham is now making public in his indictments. To wit, I would reference you THAT specific moment in July of 2018 when Team Weissmann wrote a letter to the FISA Court that was increasingly distrusting of what they were seeing and hearing within the justice system: Look at how the FISA was used by the Mueller investigation to continue its weaponization throughout 2017 and even into 2018. In July of 2018, long after the source material was debunked, the special counsel office was still telling the FISA court the predication for the FISA application and subsequent renewals was valid.

Drive this point home. This is a key to understanding the scope of how weaponized the Mueller team was. In July of 2018 the special counsel resistance group was lying to the FISA court in order to protect the cornerstone document that permitted them to weaponize the intelligence apparatus. This letter was written July 12, 2018. It is NOT accidental that only a week later, July 21st, the special counsel released the FISA application under the guise of FOIA fulfillment. Aside from the date, the important part of the first page is the motive for sending it. The Mueller team running the DOJ is telling the court in July 2018: based on what they know the FISA application still contains “sufficient predication for the Court to have found probable cause” to approve the application. The resistance unit running the DOJ is defending the Carter Page FISA application as still valid.

On page #8 [Source Document Here] when discussing Christopher Steele’s sub-source, Igor Danchenko, the special counsel group notes the FBI found Danchenko to be truthful and cooperative. This is an incredibly misleading statement to the FISA court, because what the letter doesn’t say is that 18-months earlier Danchenko, also known in the IG report as the “primary sub-source”, disavowed the content and informed the FBI that the material attributed to him in the dossier was essentially junk. By July 2018, the DOJ clearly knew the dossier was full of fabrications, yet they withheld that information from the court and said the predicate was still valid. Why? It doesn’t take a deep-weeds-walker to identify the DOJ motive. In July 2018 Robert Mueller’s investigation was at its apex.

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Wait till Obama’s involvement comes to light.

The Biggest Loser Of The Durham Indictments: James Comey’s FBI (JTN)

Special Counsel John Durham’s latest criminal case is as much an indictment of James Comey’s FBI as it is of the primary source of the Steele dossier, whom Durham accuses of repeatedly lying to agents. The Steele dossier was the central evidence used by the FBI to win four consecutive FISA warrants targeting Trump’s campaign — and in 39 pages of painstaking detail the indictment lays out just how flawed and fake central elements of the dossier were. Those FISA warrants allowed the bureau to spy on former Trump adviser Carter Page and his many contacts in Trump world for nearly a year.

Igor Danchenko, Steele’s primary source for the dossier, contrived an entire source for key allegations in the dossier and relied on a longtime Hillary Clinton-supporting public relations executive for other intelligence without telling the FBI, the indictment charges. That PR executive had extensive ties to Russian government officials, even as he provided Danchenko information that landed in the dossier. For some reason, Comey’s FBI couldn’t detect these serious flaws even though a group of civil lawyers was able to locate several Russians suspected of being Danchenko’s sub-sources, interviewing each of them and securing declarations that the information attributed to them in the dossier was wrong or contrived.

“I believe that Mr. Danchenko framed me as Sub-Source 4 to add credibility to his low-quality work, which is not based on real information or in-depth analysis,” said the witness declaration from Alexey Sergeyevich Dundich. “My impression is that Mr. Danchenko fabricated the information published in the Dossier to make quick money,” he added. “It is apparent to me that the Dossier is a deliberate fraud and a collection of idle rumors.” [..] In the meantime, experts see in Durham’s indictment serious red flags for an FBI counterintelligence probe on Comey’s and deputy Andrew McCabe’s watch before they were fired, an investigation that stretched more than two years without finding any evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.

“The fact pattern that John Durham is methodically establishing shows what James Comey and Andrew McCabe likely knew from day one, that the Steele Dossier was politically-driven nonsense created at the behest of the Clinton campaign,” said Kevin Brock, the FBI’s former intelligence chief and one of the bureau’s most respected retirees. “And yet they knowingly ran with its false information to obtain legal process against an American citizen,” he said. “They defrauded not just a federal court, they defrauded the FBI and the American people.”

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    Vincent van Gogh Roofs of Paris 1886   • No Booster… No Hassle-Free Foreign Travel (DM) • The Mandate on Business Intensifies the Crisis (Tucke
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle November 8 2021]

    #91829
    V. Arnold
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    Vincent van Gogh Roofs of Paris 1886

    Ah! What can I say?
    van Gogh at his best…
    …sublime…

    Knocks my socks off…

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    boscohorowitz
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    “Mass General Brigham has restored wages and instituted retroactive salary increases for most of its workforce, thanks to visits volume that has returned to near normal levels, the health system said.

    “In June, the system was staring at a $2 billion projected revenue shortfall, as coronavirus sidelined elective procedures and largely canceled outpatient visits.

    “Executives subsequently announced that all executives across the system would have their compensation reduced by 25% for one year, beginning July 1. All senior leaders across the system also had their compensation reduced by 5% to 20% for the same time period.”

    Mass General Brigham restores wages, salary increases

    While I trust Raul more than most online presenters to reliably share only information that has been properly vetted or with appropriate caveats , I still do my own due diligence, especially with images in this photoshopped virtuality called the internet.

    The Mass Brigham picture coupling covid vakzines and child organ donation is extreme enough for me to feel vetting is warranted. NOt lack of trust in Raul, just the general dodgy nature of the current infosphere.

    DIdn’t find a source for the image; no biggie. But that search revealed the article above, which quote thereof* caught my eye. ( * did I just murder English grammar here or merely smack it in the kneecaps?)

    It occurred to me that the enormous revenue losses that the medical establishment has experienced from covid shutdowns etc. would naturally be a part of their almost gleeful embrace of Das Vakzinario — assuming that it rolls money their way.

    I have no idea if this phenomenon is large enough to be a significant factor. Med industry insiders should be able to assess that better than me

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    chris_gee
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    I watched the Dr Peter McCullough video. So the mrna vaccines use the body cells to produce the spike protein. The virus enters the cells through the ace2 receptor, and the spike circulates through the plasma ending in various organs where it leads to an auto-immune attack. He says the same applies to the adenovirus carried J & J. Well rightly or wrongly that seems to me to be the gist of it. My question is this. Novovax seems to use nano particled spike protein so the body does not create it nor is the actual virus present. I guess it could attach to the ace2 receptors does it then cause some auto immunity but less so as the dose is much smaller?

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    boscohorowitz
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    P.S. It occurs to me that the mass hypnosis we’ve seen regarding covid is an example of what Buddha meant when he described how the unenlightened see a finger pointing at the moon and focus on the finger not the moon at which it points.

    #91833
    Germ
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    #91834

    Regeneron Shares Surge As Antibody Cocktail Cuts COVID Risk By 81.6%

    How is that possible with so manny vaccinations? Where’s the market?

    #91835
    Doc Robinson
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    Manipulated photo? (from above):

    Compare to this video screenshot, where the message is different:

    From this video, at 01:54
    https://www.nfl.com/videos/patriots-hosting-mobile-covid-19-vaccination-site-at-camp-for-fans

    #91836

    Don’t take medical advice from Joe Rogan or Aaron Rodgers.

    Take it from Big Bird.

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    Germ
    Participant

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    Dr. D
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    “Opposition To New Biden Vaccine Mandate Explodes As 27 States Join Fight (JTN)”

    Only the States or the People are large enough to counter-weight the bloated Federal Government.

    “It’s hard to imagine that public confidence in everything could fall further, but it surely will.”

    Yes, and this is how power devolves back to the States, Locals, and People. “They” have already taken a broadside with Rogan and Brandon and are sinking slowly.

    “My first thought and recommendation to Freedivers around the world is to choose a vaccine which is done the old fashion way”

    …But he does not think to avoid vaccines for a disease that won’t kill you at all, if you’re healthy, young, and in great shape. It is strongly “contraindicated” as presented by their own data.

    Biden responded to his declining poll numbers, saying “that’s not why I ran,”

    “C’mon man! I didn’t become President to do what the people wanted! I became President to do what Pfizer and Amazon wanted.”

    “ Stop Looking at Danchenko, Start Looking at Weissmann and Robert Mueller (CTH)”

    Everything but arrests. I’m looking at the timing. Since you would know this, what, two years ago when you started? So this is key to bringing down the system, which the White Hats don’t want to get blamed for. Note the other timing: after a year, suddenly cleared the Hyperinflation Infrastructure Bill. Who’s now holding their blackmail files and can make them come and go at will? A minute after the Mandate is posted, booster recipients get sick and die. This is like the “everything’s fine; helicopter evacuation” story last month. Too precise to be an accident.

    Then we have 17 young people having heart attacks at but one rap concert? And Evergrande is still out there, not paying.

    Looking at Greece, why do you think the locals haven’t repaired it, or let’s say, just the amphitheater or something? Just wondering since it’s an active decision.

    Bosco, yes, the Buddha said the world of the unelightened is delusion. The mind is generally nothing but delusion. And if you missed it, I was looking for you when you were gone.

    #91839
    Mr. House
    Participant

    according to CNN (take that with a grain of salt) they are making payments:

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/29/investing/evergrande-debt-payment-default-intl-hnk/index.html

    Where is Gavin Newsome and Jen Pasky (I need my fix of daily gaslighting)? Who killed Seth Rich?

    #91840
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #91841
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    THanx, Doc R. I found it hard to imagine that the Mass G. Brigham’s PR staff was THAT tone-deaf.

    #91842
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “And if you missed it, I was looking for you when you were gone.”

    Aw, man. That’s almost enough to make me wanna share my Bud Lite with youy. 😉 ‘stead, have some lucid juice.

    #91843
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    “Wait till Obama’s involvement comes to light.”

    I guessed you missed the reporting, common knowledge and blogpost commenting from Obama’s meeting of the principals (principals of the Russsiagate coverup) in the Oval Office from early January 2017.
    Once again, to get a taste for how much Obama was Central and by extension “protected” within this conspiracy, start linking to Marci Wheeler’s blog Emptywheel. She and her costars are as detached from reality as Anthony Fauci and his ilk.

    #91844
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    …But he does not think to avoid vaccines for a disease that won’t kill you at all, if you’re healthy, young, and in great shape. It is strongly “contraindicated” as presented by their own data.

    Vaccinating against an upper respiratory virus is always a fool’s errand in the long haul. Before 2020, this was something that was well-known. That is why I am convinced that Covid vaccine-worshippers are cognitively-dissonant acolytes of the Religion of Everlasting Progress: They need to believe in the Holy Vac, evidence be damned, and anyone who does not is a damned-to-Hell heretic (“anti-vaxxer”).

    #91845
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    UK funeral director seeing high numbers of (new born) babies and miscarriages in the mortuaries right now.

    https://odysee.com/@ResistanceGB:f/funeral-director-babies:c

    https://odysee.com/@ResistanceGB:f/funeral-director-babies:c

    #91846
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    An 89-year old woman who lives in our apartment complex (and was partial template for the madamski construct) is an avid NPR/CNN liberal. I terminated the friendship not because she asked me to wear a mask (whgile she didn’t) because I am unvaccinated (and she is) but because, as I explained my willingness to make her comfortable via masking while attempting to explain that the vaccines had minimal if any effect on contagiousness, she dismissed my concerns with that arrogant superciliousness we’ve come to associate with vakzinazis. She chose politics over friendship — and I was being a very kind friend looking in on the old broad and playing with her neurotic house-bound poodle.

    No point to the above other than my fondness for context.

    The point is this: her rear vehicle bumper has a sticker reading FIGHT HATE.

    Talk about fingers pointing at the moon. The War on Hatred, coming to a loony bin near you soon.

    #91847
    Professorlocknload
    Participant

    And the score, after the third wave is,,, Virus 3. Medical Science 0.

    #91848
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    RE: Florian Dagoury, currently the world’s top static breath-hold free diver, diagnosed with myocarditis and pericarditis 40 days following his second dose with the Pfizer vaccine. 177 bpm at dinner!!!

    The divers own “reporting” of his experience blows me away. How is it that an elite athlete was not more informed about the likelihood of getting/surviving Covid (no need for fox) and the impacts/injuries of the shot? He obviously waited to get jabbed. Perhaps travel restrictions became the primary driver for submission? He “sounds” tempered in the interview, because he has hope it will all go away? Goodbye 10 minute 30 second record setting accomplishment (that one is hard to imagine…most people can’t even hold their breath for 30 seconds!). Side note: Pranayama/breathwork practices from Yoga will help you develop a calm body/mind/Heart.

    @ Dr. D: “Bosco, yes, the Buddha said the world of the unenlightened is delusion. The mind is generally nothing but delusion.” Yes, and what of the Heart? Heart and mind work together. The world of the unenlightened is delusion and illusion. Going beyond both is the process of BEcoming/BEing enlighted.

    “And if you missed it, I was looking for you when you were gone.” Spoken from the Heart, with Heart. Cultivating positive and uplifting – feelings/thoughts – is the first stop on the Path to leaving both behind. Immersion in positive feelings/thoughts/actions (John Day style) is the formula.

    Gate Gate Para Gate Para Sam Gate Bodhi Swaha.

    Sanskrit: गते गते पार गते पार संगते बोधि स्वाहा – is a Buddhist mantra that is found at the end of the Heart Sutra, often cited as the best-known Buddhist scripture and included in the Prajnaparamita (“Perfection of Wisdom”) section of the Mahayana Buddhist canon. It is also known as the Heart Calming Mantra.

    Mantras can take you beyond delusion/illusion. There are 108 beads on a mala.

    LOVE to All.

    #91849
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Ere I’m off to dreary work, a quick quip on modern economics especially the stock market:

    I got rich quick! I went broke even faster!!!!

    #91850
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Belgium-Antwerp GZA Hospitals 100% ‘vaccinated’ in the ICU

    F.S.

    #91851
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    “And if you missed it, I was looking for you when you were gone.” Spoken from the Heart, with Heart. Cultivating positive and uplifting – feelings/thoughts – is the first stop on the Path to leaving both behind. Immersion in positive feelings/thoughts/actions (John Day style) is the formula.

    THIS is LOVE. Give LOVE. BE LOVE.

    #91852
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @bosco: “Hate Is The New Sex” by John Michael Greer writing at his “Ecosophia” blog.

    #91853
    zerosum
    Participant

    Because the vaccines did not live up to the advertisement, “the pill”, at 90%, will replace the vaccines.
    (black market pill will be called IVM)

    Because transmission of covid is not respecting our “projecting models”, you should make your own model.

    Calculate the odds of one person with covid, will sit beside you, when100% of the people at a football game, or a concert, (+30,000 people), have been vaccinated.

    On a related subject.
    why are poor, drug addicts, alcoholics, homeless people not all dead?

    #91854
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    On a related subject. why are poor, drug addicts, alcoholics, homeless people not all dead?

    I think that very question made a lot of us who bought into the narrative during the first year scratch our heads and think, “Hey, wait a minute.” Hopefully, it is continuing to have that effect.

    #91855
    expatkiwi
    Participant

    Exposing THE EXPOSE in Good Way
    Why only 5% of the lots “seem” to be causing 100% of the damage
    https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/exposing-the-expose-in-good-way

    #91856
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    It occurs to me that what educational TV has taught our children is to watch TV.

    Photonic Brain-Smasher

    #91857
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I have what probably is skin cancer on my back so I must submit to the maniacal discipline and see a doc. Wife has the phone at work, made the call. We learn:

    “They are way out on scheduling, but suggested you go to your Primary care and if they deemed it urgent you could get in faster.”

    I’m not surprised. I know the situation. Still, when you experience it first-hand, it drives the reality into one’s visceral understanding: modern medicine is toast in Euromerica. When you ask for a dermatologist appt because you likely have skin cancer, and they drive you to an unnecessary visit to your primary care doc, the pass-the-buck while making you pay that much more for that much less factor lights up neon bright.

    from the early LOUD days

    #91858
    Noirette
    Participant

    “How Long Does Vaccine Based Immunity Last?” and other potential questions.

    Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT)

    Dr. Amy Jenkins

    Quote: ( my italics )

    The Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT) program supports individual troop readiness and total force health protection by developing technologies to rapidly identify and respond to threats posed by natural and engineered diseases and toxins. A subset of ADEPT technologies specifically support use by personnel with minimal medical training, delivering centralized laboratory capabilities even in the low-resource environments typical of many military operations. The program is part of a portfolio of DARPA-funded research aimed at providing options for preempting or mitigating constantly evolving infectious disease threats.

    The ADEPT program’s four thrusts cover simple-to-use, on-demand diagnostics for medical decision-making and accurate threat-tracking; novel methods for rapidly manufacturing new types of vaccines with increased potency; novel tools to engineer mammalian cells for targeted drug delivery and in vivo diagnostics; and novel methods to impart near-immediate immunity to an individual using antibodies.

    ADEPT has pioneered use of nucleic-acid-based anti-infective technologies, valuable for their efficacy and adaptability. These tools—primarily coded genetic instructions to the body on how to produce its own protective antibodies against a specific threat—have the advantages of being easily manufactured at scale using largely synthetic processes, transported and stored without many of the cold-chain logistics required by traditional medical countermeasures, delivered with near-immediate efficacy, and safely expressed in the body for only a limited duration, causing no permanent alteration to the genome.

    https://www.darpa.mil/program/autonomous-diagnostics-to-enable-prevention-and-therapeutics

    see also: https://www.darpa.mil/program/pandemic-prevention-platform

    quote from that link:

    P3 aims specifically to develop a scalable, adaptable, rapid response platform capable of producing relevant numbers of doses against any known or previously unknown infectious threat within 60 days of identification of such a threat in order to keep the outbreak from escalating and decrease disruptions to the military and homeland. State-of-the-art medical countermeasures often take many months or even years to develop, produce, distribute, and administer. The envisioned P3 platform would cut response time to weeks and stay within the window of relevance for containing an outbreak.

    ————————-

    Note the total obfuscatory meaningless jargon, which serves as a shield, those who mouth have power (say.)

    All the above sounds very much like reactions to COV19. A massive live experiment.. I couldn’t find a date for these pieces. One should dig into DARPA. This was only a mini dive.

    #91859
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Bosco re your cancer: for certain types of skin cancer there is the egg plant and apple cider cure touted by Dr. Oz and Mercola no less. I used it successfully several times for skin abnormalities and it worked like a charm. Price is right and all ingredients available at your local grocer.

    Dr Oz, BEC 5 Cream, Joe Mercola Cure Non Melanoma Cancer

    #91860
    chooch
    Participant

    While introducing spike proteins into the blood/lymphatic network will generate an immune response, I do not think any lasting immunity will come of it.

    Fundamentally, they are foreign protein structures (more like a poison) which I like to refer to as shards of glass, that get deposited throughout the body and take months to clear out due to the shear number of them. Any cells that these shards of glass become associated with could also be damaged in this clean up process, generating adverse reactions in any number of organs. It is a waning immune response not waning immunity at play here. Therefore boosters are a joke.

    Each shot basically initiates a systemic spike protein infection which really renders the immune system less effective against anything else it may encounter post injection. Say for instance the actual Covid virus, or any other opportunist pathogen that we may be carrying, or the ability stave off cancers that are trying to gain a foothold.

    #91861
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Noirette: “I couldn’t find a date for these pieces. One should dig into DARPA.”

    Versions of “Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT)” go back to 2015 at least:

    —————————————
    June 2015
    Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT)
    Col Daniel J. Wattendorf

    The Department of Defense must be able to provide health care anywhere in the world at anytime. Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT), is a five year program that seeks to provide Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines actionable information about their health, on-demand, by developing the following capabilities: diagnostics that can be carried on-person and self-administered, coupled with formats suitable for preservation of self-collected biospecimens for later expanded testing, if necessary; highly-multiplexed tests that can be performed outside of clinical laboratories; and, new methods to achieve effective immunity. These capabilities are being investigated through two efforts.

    ADEPT – Diagnostics on Demand (DxOD): DxOD aims to enable in-vitro devices that address current clinical diagnostic needs and are reconfigurable to decrease the time to design, manufacture and rapidly distribute assays in response to an emerging diagnostic need. The program is addressing diagnostic technologies for use in two settings: diagnostics tailored for self-performed tests in limited resource settings and in point-of-care settings. These efforts will improve diagnostic capability and medical care in garrison, as well as in field, fleet, and air transport settings. An additional thrust of the DxOD effort includes capabilities to preserve, ship, archive and recover biomarkers from a self-collected biospecimen.

    DARPA released a Request For Information related to this facet of the ADEPT program on November 14, 2011.

    ADEPT – Controlling Cellular Machinery (CCM) includes two components and leverages advances to prevent, detect and treat disease using in-vivo and continuous monitoring methods.

    Diagnostics and Therapeutics, launched in August 2011: advances the fundamental development and application of synthetic methods to detect, report and treat disease.
    Vaccines, which began in September 2011: focuses on developing a non-integrating nucleic-acid based vaccine that has the potential to be safer and more effective than traditional vaccines.

    —————————————
    April 2019
    Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT)
    COL Matthew Hepburn, MD, USA

    The Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT) program supports individual troop readiness and total force health protection by developing technologies to rapidly identify and respond to threats posed by natural and engineered diseases and toxins. A subset of ADEPT technologies specifically support use by personnel with minimal medical training, delivering centralized laboratory capabilities even in the low-resource environments typical of many military operations. The program is part of a portfolio of DARPA-funded research aimed at providing options for preempting or mitigating constantly evolving infectious disease threats.

    The ADEPT program’s four thrusts cover simple-to-use, on-demand diagnostics for medical decision-making and accurate threat-tracking; novel methods for rapidly manufacturing new types of vaccines with increased potency; novel tools to engineer mammalian cells for targeted drug delivery and in vivo diagnostics; and novel methods to impart near-immediate immunity to an individual using antibodies.

    ADEPT has pioneered use of nucleic-acid-based anti-infective technologies, valuable for their efficacy and adaptability. These tools—primarily coded genetic instructions to the body on how to produce its own protective antibodies against a specific threat—have the advantages of being easily manufactured at scale using largely synthetic processes, transported and stored without many of the cold-chain logistics required by traditional medical countermeasures, delivered with near-immediate efficacy, and safely expressed in the body for only a limited duration, causing no permanent alteration to the genome.

    —————————————
    March 2020
    Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT)
    Dr. Amy Jenkins

    The Autonomous Diagnostics to Enable Prevention and Therapeutics (ADEPT) program supports individual troop readiness and total force health protection by developing technologies to rapidly identify and respond to threats posed by natural and engineered diseases and toxins. A subset of ADEPT technologies specifically support use by personnel with minimal medical training, delivering centralized laboratory capabilities even in the low-resource environments typical of many military operations. The program is part of a portfolio of DARPA-funded research aimed at providing options for preempting or mitigating constantly evolving infectious disease threats.

    The ADEPT program’s four thrusts cover simple-to-use, on-demand diagnostics for medical decision-making and accurate threat-tracking; novel methods for rapidly manufacturing new types of vaccines with increased potency; novel tools to engineer mammalian cells for targeted drug delivery and in vivo diagnostics; and novel methods to impart near-immediate immunity to an individual using antibodies.

    ADEPT has pioneered use of nucleic-acid-based anti-infective technologies, valuable for their efficacy and adaptability. These tools—primarily coded genetic instructions to the body on how to produce its own protective antibodies against a specific threat—have the advantages of being easily manufactured at scale using largely synthetic processes, transported and stored without many of the cold-chain logistics required by traditional medical countermeasures, delivered with near-immediate efficacy, and safely expressed in the body for only a limited duration, causing no permanent alteration to the genome.

    —————————————

    From the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150628170424/https://www.darpa.mil/program/autonomous-diagnostics-to-enable-prevention-and-therapeutics

    #91862
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Noirette:

    Having you around is like having a magnifying glass that reads the invisible fine print between the lines.

    sumac: thanx so much for the recommendation. I will put it wo work right away. By the time a dermatologist will see me and get the lab results back, I’ll probably be cured.

    “During the COVID-19 pandemic, Mercola spread misinformation about the virus and pseudoscientific anti-vaccine misinformation on social media platforms;[10][11][12] researchers have identified him as the “chief spreader of coronavirus misinformation online”.[10][13][14][15] He has been warned numerous times by the FDA for selling unapproved health products, including supposed treatments for COVID-19.[14] Mercola was banned from Youtube on September 29, 2021.[16]”

    Hard to imagine a stronger endorsement of the man as a medical advisor/practitioner. Lordy how the mainstream medical establishment hates it when alt-med practitioners use marketing tactis to make money, a practice apparently reserved exclusively for Big Pharma and the AMA. A quick perusal of his wiki shows that he supports some unproven, perhaps even refuted, concepts (his opposition to homogenized milk, for example), but then, most AMA doctors also promote numerous unsound medical hypotheses. Especially of late…

    ‘Ask your doctor about nexifibulastin. Don’t ask why, just ask.’

    All that said, it unfortunately looks like melanoma. Fortunately, the doc I see tomorrow is old school. Saved my life a year or two ago when I was bleeding so badly from my HHT and developed severe anemia (the worst dear old Dr. Buchanan had seen in terms of low ferritin levels). The manifold experts at OHSU, Portland’s bloated health monolith that has a major HHT clinic, only know to shuffle paper work. They made uselessness look overworked. Dr. B actually listened to his patient, took bloodwork, got me an ASAP for an iron infusion.

    #91863
    userzeroid
    Participant

    Sending you love and well wishes Bosco. Hope you Doc works his magic on you ASAP.

    You mentioned the band a little while back, so I’m going to re-listen to the first few Police albums again. Sting wrote some great lyrics that transcend the era of the band. I was checking out ‘Sychronicity’ a few years back (pre-covid) while reading Jung’s concepts on the same. Sting also employed some top musicians to play on his albums over the years including Kenny Kirkland and Branford Marsalis. A man of good taste.

    Thank you Ilargi for your ever-pertinent commentary, connecting the dots seamlessly. The photos of Athens and its beautiful landscape is a welcome reminder. It is good to be reminded of beauty. Perhaps once we come to our senses again we shall be free to wander the globe once more in search of wonderous experiences.

    Best wishes to all

    #91864
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    I don’t drink milk, but the homogenized milk statement caught my eye. Mostly when we start messing with a natural food product we wreck it so maybe wouldn’t write off Mercola’s concerns without more research.

    https://milk.procon.org/questions/is-drinking-non-homogenized-milk-healthier-than-drinking-homogenized-milk/

    It’s interesting because I find myself questioning the “case” made for homogenized milk being just as healthy as non-homogenized milk. Why? The studies themselves. I’ve lost faith in studies. 🙁

    #91865
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    To be clear, I don’t write off Mercola’s milk claims per se, just note that the mechanism of injury he cites is not finding much if any support via lab testing. THAT said, today’s lab testing and peer review are ambiguous at best, of increasingly questionable competence, and at worst (and too often) plainly corrupt.

    As for whether drinking whole milk versus homo-milk is “healtheir” (word in quotes because health/healthier is a broad topic with shifting variables): of course fresh milk is more nourishing, all other things being equal, for example, no harmful bacteria in the fresh milk.

    We tend to forget that things like homo-milk exist is because there is no other currently feasible way of providing daily milk to a few hundred million milk drinkers without a whole bunch of them dying from milk-borne disease. Almost every problem we complain of aside from personal misfortune is a result of Too Many People via Petro-Techno Industrialism and the enormous consumer poopulation this engendered.

    I drank fresh milk that I milked myself on my Uncle’s rural estate back in the late 70s/early 80s. Awesome stuff — so long as you kept the cow out of wild onion and such.

    This reminded me of something Lincoln said. First, the context:

    Lincoln and His Team of Homeopaths

    The controversial but perennially lovable Lincoln (well, he was a charmer and his gift with language has yet to be seen again in USA political rhetoric) knew how to brew high-proof analogies:

    “He has at last invented this sort of do-nothing Sovereignty-that the people may exclude slavery by a sort of “Sovereignty” that is exercised by doing nothing at all. Is not that running his Popular Sovereignty down awfully? Has it not got down as thin as the homeopathic soup that was made by boiling the shadow of a pigeon that had starved to death? But at last, when it is brought to the test of close reasoning, there is not even that thin decoction of it left. It is a presumption impossible in the domain of thought. It is precisely no other than the putting of that most unphilosophical proposition, that two bodies can occupy the same space at the same time. The Dred Scott decision covers the whole ground, and while it occupies it, there is no room even for the shadow of a starved pigeon to occupy the same ground.”

    Sayeth the Abeth

    ***

    Thank you, uzeroid. The Police impress me more and more over time — and I was a big fan when they were big. Just not their first album.

    ***

    Too Many People

    #91866
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    P.S. Jeez, chooch, you conveyed an awful lot of complex info in 3 smallish and easily understood paragraphs. FOr you:

    Oh, Ben Casey, Ben Casey, Ben Casey…

    #91867
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “due to the shear number of them”

    Now THAT’s a Freudian typo. 😉

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