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    Bettmann/Getty Minimum Wage 1963   • Coronavirus Clusters Erupt At US Universities As Semester Begins (AP) • Sixty Seconds to Self-Sabotage (Cut)
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 18 2020]

    #62256
    V. Arnold
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    Bettmann/Getty Minimum Wage 1963
    $1.50/hour…

    1963 I was working at Meier & Frank as a stock boy,
    $1.35/hour…
    Women’s shoe salesman (I moved up); $1.35/hour + comission on sales…

    Looking back; it’s hard to believe; but, that was then and this is today…
    Today? Yuck! Hard times indeed…

    #62258
    John Day
    Participant

    http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/08/pandemic-complexity-musings.html
    I have been talking to people, in the course of doing errands linked to the death and estate of an old friend, with whom I have practiced Buddhism since we both started in spring of 2001. After conversing with another friend about current events and historical patterns, I responded to an email about whether the viral threat is completely fabricated or not.
    (Then I tidied it up to be this essay…)

    The Novel coronavirus pandemic in the USA is a complex event medically, economically, and humanly.
    One faction lives in abject fear, and another faction lives in denial, while they can maintain it.
    The factions are incompatible and completely aligned against each other. (That’s not everybody, though.)

    3 per thousand people who catch novel coronavirus infection die, and mostly over 60. Older and sicker get hit harder. However, if you actually get diagnosed by a test, your chance of dying is more like 3 per 100.
    A majority of people, 80-90% never get tested, and that was revealed by the early US seropositivity studies in California and New York. The number of cases implied was about 10X the number of cases confirmed.
    Is that pattern holding? Those seropositivity studies are ongoing, but the ongoing results have been secret since April.
    The Texas Governor Knows, but I do not. I see they are tracking the viral penetration of our human population, and slowing it down with masks, and closing bars, when it gets so fast that the hospitals get overloaded. That’s it.
    There is a lot of human suffering and a lot of aunts and uncles and grandparents have died recently in our circle of friends and family.
    People suffer, and suffering people get secluded and hospitalized.
    Effective treatments are being suppressed and information about them is censored, and disparaged in the mass media.
    That censorship is not completely effective, is it?
    People do know they are being lied to and manipulated, but “which” narrative do they choose to deal with it?
    US elites are trying to herd people into blue-camp and red-camp, with different sets of lies and misconceptions, but antagonistic to each other. Each sees some of the lies that the other believes, but not the lies they believe themselves.

    This virus, militarized in a lab, does things we are only learning about. It specifically attacks the linings of blood vessels, shutting off lots of little vessels and starving lots of bits of brain, lung, kidney, liver, etc. of blood flow, which creates patterns of disease we have never seen before. It creates cottage-cheese damage to all these organs, which we have never seen the long term effects of. We have seen heart attacks, strokes, renal failure and pulmonary embolism, and we are seeing lots of all that now, from big blood clots.
    That’s one thing. The other thing is that this virus hides from the immune system, when it is reproducing in a cell, so the immune system can’t see to destroy that cell-full-of-virus before it releases the virus.
    Does this lead to sleeper-cells? Can people have dormant virus pop back up in a month or two? I just saw somebody who may have had exactly that happen to her. I can’t say yet. She had real, systemic COVID and positive nasal swabs, and stuff on CT of her chest, and typical excess clotting in her blood, twice, about 6 weeks apart.
    Do not accept a simplistic answer. COVID is not the black death and it is not trivial like a cold.

    Yes, every crisis serves the elites, just like every error favors the bank, not you.
    This virus leaked, I think, which put the elites on their back foot, pushed them to rapidly adapt, like the rest of us.
    They don’t trust each other, don’t trust us, and are mainly trying to hold onto flows of wealth and power, which are in rapid decline, but they are holding onto THEIR FLOW like it is a solid object.
    It is not, but we humans are very loath to relinquish what we feel to be “ours”. It hurts us. It’s “wrong”.
    Power elites need to keep us sidelined in fear and confusion, but power elites are also subject to the mass psychosis , which is developing.

    Be sane. Don’t follow an ideology. This is chaotic. This is people going insane and acting out a recurring pattern of history where a lot of people die, including elites. Don’t take a side. Don’t accept a partisan narrative.
    Clues are being dropped by folks like Bill Gates, that there will be more pandemics, which seems likely. Pandemics are a cull the elites can do without destroying valuable infrastructure. They are getting a better understanding of how pandemics move through the world, more comfortable with it.
    I personally suspect that internet warfare, shutting down the web and grid and phones, can be used on top of viral pandemics to take out cities and regions. All of our eggs are getting transferred into that basket these days.

    I think we humans are going into a periodic mass culling, like WW-1, and WW-2, but I really think it started with an accidental leak of weaponized virus, started before it was all agreed upon, and operational.

    It seems like history always has an element of surprise and chaos, even for ruling elites, when a real reset starts.
    I see that now in our herd-mind. There are always some who don’t much participate in the herd-mind.
    Don’t get stampeded.
    Grow a garden. Ride a bike. Meditate, Store some rice, beans, salt, sugar, oil, onions, garlic, etc.
    Try to keep a low profile, on the sidelines, without much worth stealing.
    Do help your neighbors in little ways, when the opportunity presents. Be a good citizen.

    To the elites this may be mainly about controlling us with fear, but if you get sick with this virus, you will know pain, suffering, deep fatigue, and probably fear. I talk to my patients.
    My daughter, Holly is a hospitalist in internal medicine at the country hospital in San Antonio.
    Lots of people of all kinds are dying, and they are dying alone, without their loved ones, and they are dying through different mechanisms than we saw until just a few months ago.
    You probably won’t die from this. Probably.
    You do not want to get sick with it, for sure.
    Take 5000 units per day of vitamin-D, but if you are just starting, take 10,000 units per day for the first couple of months.

    #62259
    John Day
    Participant

    @V.Arnold: See air rooting reply yesterday. I may try again some day on a certain tree.

    #62260
    lasttwo
    Participant

    thank you John Day. excellent post .

    Raul In my humble opinion seems like you have become a Trump cheerleader. Why? Biden -Harris makes me actually physically ill but Trump is doing so much damage to the core of the environment, social division , inequality, corporate socialism (fascism) and his leadership on Covid is actually deplorable. just sayin

    #62261
    zerosum
    Participant

    Growth
    Minimum Wage 1963 …. $1.50
    now in 2020 …. …………..$15.00

    • Twelve US Billionaires Have a Combined $1 Trillion
    Learn to count
    • The Mathematical Model of Modern Monetary Theory (Steve Keen)

    #62262
    oxymoron
    Participant

    John, fabulous take on things. Re avocados, I have tried Rincorn, Hass, Bacon and Fuerte. we get to minus 4C with longish winters but it is the hot summer sun – up to 45c that burns the bark and causes the cambium layer to suffer badly – I have given up but if you make sure young trees have humidity and protection with limewash on the bark you should be fine in Texas.
    Pollination is a pain but ants help

    #62264

    lasttwo

    In my humble opinion seems like you have become a Trump cheerleader.

    Why? Biden -Harris makes me actually physically ill..

    And you feel that makes you a Trump cheerleader?

    Me, it makes me feel that perhaps the Dems don’t actually want to win.

    #62266
    zerosum
    Participant

    … winning ….
    1. Get Trump out of office
    2. Correct all the bad things done by Rep.
    3. Divert cash flow to Dem.’s hidden bank accounts
    4. Lock em up
    5. Help/improve the social/economic situation of the blue collar workers
    6. Change perception of reality

    #62267
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    The album “All Things Must Pass” is George’s best work. Each and every song. In these times, as accurately summed up by John Day and Raul, beautiful music is medicine.

    FREE Julian Assange. Pardon Snowden Mr. President – you have no clue – just do it baby!

    #62268
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    Bernie never recovered from the DNC theft of 2016. His recent run lacked Heart as the truth became obvious. The next genuine progressive wave is fermenting but not ready for kegging. Bernie opened doors for AOC, KATIE PORTER and more while Covid opened doors for Mayor Lance-Bottoms, Governors Whitmer, Grisham and more. Bernie still has a role in the next phase; his patience will pay off.

    Who is angrier? In 2016 it was those angry folks who pushed Trump to victory. I disagree with the logic in the Greene article that the angry factor will prevail and deliver the knockout punch to Biden. In this moment, it is the disgusted vote that will deliver Biden the win. Same theory just a different source.

    Who is disgusted with President Trump? How can this disgust be focused, clarified and channeled, the facts collected and documented? Use Trumps own WORDS – everything you need is there. Depending on how effective the disgust campaign will be – and the campaign’s ability to translate disgust into taking the only possible meaningful action (which is run from the source of the disgust) – will determine the margin of victory.

    How is being disgusted different from being angry? Why would that make a difference? Does one move from anger to disgust? Hummm.

    Of course the Biden campaign must simultaneously build the case for their path forward. There has to be a vision that all, including the disgusted can hold on to.

    #62269
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    Amazon adds 3,500 white collar jobs and cuts 1,500 delivery/driving positions. Amazon expects record-breaking growth to continue. So who will deliver all those packages?

    Is Amazon giving the USPS an opening to raise parcel rates?

    #62270
    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    “Me, it makes me feel that perhaps the Dems don’t actually want to win.”

    Oh Please! Everything you do is an assault on the Dems and a buffer (or an outright misrepresentation) to an accurate accounting of Trump and the harm he does to everything he touches. I can only imagine that Putin loves you for it!

    The TAE I once lauded and supported is gone! And now so am I.

    At least you will still have your toady, V. to comment on the art (angry expat aside) which he has so fastidiously done since you chastised him a couple of years back. As well as Dr. D-mento, that paragon of logic and common sense.

    Say whatever you want in response. I don’t care, I won’t be back to read it.

    #62271
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Raul In my humble opinion seems like you have become a Trump cheerleader. Why? Biden -Harris makes me actually physically ill but Trump is doing so much damage to the core of the environment, social division , inequality, corporate socialism (fascism) and his leadership on Covid is actually deplorable. just sayin”

    Really? Please point out specifics of things he is doing now that weren’t going on with the past five administrations?

    #62272
    Mr. House
    Participant

    What is so hard about understanding that you will lose no matter which party is running the show? I guess some people like losing at a slower pace?

    #62273
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Oh Please! Everything you do is an assault on the Dems and a buffer (or an outright misrepresentation) to an accurate accounting of Trump and the harm he does to everything he touches. I can only imagine that Putin loves you for it!

    The TAE I once lauded and supported is gone! And now so am I.

    At least you will still have your toady, V. to comment on the art (angry expat aside) which he has so fastidiously done since you chastised him a couple of years back. As well as Dr. D-mento, that paragon of logic and common sense.

    Say whatever you want in response. I don’t care, I won’t be back to read it.”

    This reads like the temper tantrum of a five year old child.

    #62274
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @Planatarycitizen (such an altruistic name)

    Have you listened to NPR recently? I’m sure Raul has a larger audience then they do so any objective reality he provides to us must really be getting the masses of the PMC frothing at the mouth. Anyways i listened to NPR last weekend while making an hour long drive. Not once did they say anything objectively negative about democrats. They had some cheerleading about the convention, which i found odd for a non partisan publicly sponsered and corporate radio station to do (they get tons of money from the ford foundation who also donated about 100 million to BLM). You don’t find that odd? The only negative story they had about politics was about guess who, come on guess

    #62275
    zerosum
    Participant

    not here

    influencer: a person with the ability to influence potential buyers of a product or service by promoting or recommending the items on social media.

    #62276

    I don’t understand the implied idea that I would be some secret Trump cheerleader. I get why people don’t tell pollsters if they plan to vote Trump, that’s just the political climate today. But for me, with a website in which I say what I think every single day, how does some kind of secret unspoken underlying notion make sense?

    #62277

    Google AdSense sends me a message saying that some of the content on the frontpage is unacceptable for some advertizers, because: “Adult: Sexual content”. The frontpage is either https://www.theautomaticearth.com or https://www.theautomaticearth.com/the-automatic-earth/, where you get when you click the Home button in the menubar (don’t ask me why).

    And really, beat me with a pigfoot till I bleed, but I have no idea what on the frontpage could be seen as sexual content. And they don’t specify, of course.

    #62278
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Try testing it

    Only post negative trump things and pro biden things. See if suddenly the google ad revenue starts pouring in. Worth a shot and i’d be willing to put up with it if it confirms many suspicions.

    #62279
    teri
    Participant

    Coronavirus is now the 3rd leading cause of death in the USA.

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/512427-covid-19-now-no-3-cause-of-death-in-us

    Dept of the Interior approves gas and oil leases on the ANWR

    US approves oil, gas leasing plan for Alaska wildlife refuge

    #62280

    Only post negative trump things and pro biden things. See if suddenly the google ad revenue starts pouring in.

    Not sure how either way would qualify as Adult; Sexual Content. But i’ve requested a review (can take a week). Maybe that’s the only way to find out what they’re talking about. I normally can’t be bothered, but let’s have that fun for once.

    NOTE: I see no difference in the ads here.

    #62281
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “I have no idea what on the frontpage could be seen as sexual content.”

    Maybe it’s the beginning of the Social Experiment posting which mentions ladies of the evening micturating on the bunk?

    #62282
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “I don’t understand the implied idea that I would be some secret Trump cheerleader. I get why people don’t tell pollsters if they plan to vote Trump, that’s just the political climate today.”

    Just the political climate today huh, i consider it strong arming. Doesn’t anyone remember what life was like in high school? That’s all the anti trump hysteria has been for the last four years. The cool kids are telling us not to listen to the new kid. That is really all it is. And for all the openmindedness those on the left profess to have, their actions the past four years have only proven the exact opposite. Grow up, the game is getting serious and if you seriously want a free country and to save the planet like most of you claim, learn that neither party has your interest and start discussing creating a new one. CJ Hopkins wrote an excellent article in 2019 about Bernie, and he called it to a T. How many times does lucy have to pull the football away for you guys to learn?

    The Magic Socialist

    #62283
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Mr. House … you actually listened to NPR for an hour? Wow. Talk about taking one for the team. There is not an ounce of objective in any reporting they do. I’m not sure how one can even call what they do reporting.

    I haven’t commented here in a few months. It’s been rather nasty around here and I stayed out of the fray. But @Mr. House cracked me up with the “This reads like the temper tantrum of a five year old child.” Just had to login in and say … hat’s off! Thanks for the laugh.

    I don’t know what it is about Trump, but he brings out the worst in people (both the “pro” AND “con” people). He truly does. I don’t pay any attention to the daily headlines (aka, clickbait), don’t follow Twitter, and never listen to him speak. I just pick up what, generally, is the result of his actions. Watching his results using my hands off method, quite honestly, I don’t see any difference between what he accomplishes (using that term loosely) and what, say, Obama accomplished. Seems pretty much the same to me. Environment, immigrants, wages, jobs, blah, blah … what, seriously, is the difference between Obama and Trump? No one can actually say, can they, using real statistics? I suggest we put together one of those side-by-side charts and see how these 2 stack up on these pivotal issues. Want to place bets on that? 😉

    Raul, I also like Dr. House’s idea of only posting pro Biden/Harris and negative Trump things for a couple weeks to see what happens to adverts and revenue. Now THAT is a flippin’ stellar idea. Two thumbs up.

    #62284
    cloudhidden
    Participant

    Susan B. Anthony ? ? ?

    and we were thinking Assange

    WTF

    #62285
    Archie
    Participant

    I live in the deep red mountains of North Georgia. Saw my 1st Biden bumper sticker today at the local big box store parking lot. It was:

    Republicans for Biden 2020

    Apparently, some people like their shit sandwich with mustard on it.

    #62286
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    John Day, I appreciate your words of wisdom:

    US elites are trying to herd people into blue-camp and red-camp, with different sets of lies and misconceptions, but antagonistic to each other. Each sees some of the lies that the other believes, but not the lies they believe themselves.

    Be sane. Don’t follow an ideology. This is chaotic. This is people going insane and acting out a recurring pattern of history where a lot of people die, including elites. Don’t take a side. Don’t accept a partisan narrative.

    Both sides are being played.

    Here’s a graph which surprised me, after all the media stories about overwhelmed hospitals. Out of all the Emergency Department visits at US hospitals during the pandemic, the percentage of visits due to “COVID-19-Like Illness” was just 7 percent at the peak. Digging deeper into the data, the only region which got into the double digits was Region 2 (NY, NJ, and PR), which was above 10% during a four-week period, peaking at 16%.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/08142020/covid-like-illness.html

    When it comes to reading between the lines and thinking for yourself, these recent articles from Ted Rall are food for thought:

    There Isn’t That Much Difference between Democrats and Republicans
    August 17, 2020

    Trump Tries to End the Afghanistan War, Democrats Want to Keep Killing
    July 22, 2020

    10 Reasons I Won’t Vote for Biden
    July 12, 2020

    Like Trump, Biden Would Be a Right-Wing President
    July 10, 2020

    On Foreign Policy, Joe Biden is Worse Than Trump
    July 6, 2020

    The Data Is Clear: Progressives Should Boycott Biden
    July 1, 2020

    https://rall.com/

    #62287
    regionswork
    Participant

    Thomas Greene only has one side of the betrayal of the American working class. There’s more. Republicans are far from innocent. Not mentioned is how the borders were kept open to allow immigrants, legal or illegal, from entry to introduce wage cutting competition along with extreme centralization of once local and regional meat-cutting employment. Wage stagnation was obscured by inflation, arrival of some lower priced goods from exported industry, and of course, easy credit. The Republicans did and still do offer Christian heaven as compensation for worldly suffering. Dems can’t go that far right, but they are hardly liberal or progressive, since the moneyed object.

    Some restoration of Federal agency function is needed. In “The Fifth Risk” (2018) Michael Lewis looked at the transition and political appointments of the Trump presidency. That States are not actual partners, but competitors for Presidential favors, the strong executive model, is demonstrated in the COVID-19 response.

    Joe Bageant did lay out the Republican approach in “Deer Hunting with Jesus: Dispatches from America’s Class War” in 2007. Wikipedia says: “It concerns his return to his hometown of Winchester, Virginia, and his take on income inequality and problems facing the working poor”. The language is rough and, of course, Jesus is in the title, so nothing here for the chattering class.

    If Trumpian anger wins again, the economic crash will be deafening. Republicans may remove him to save their corrupted brand. The wise should attend to local and state government to hang on to civil order and manage a cash economy rebuilding. Virginia, where I’ve lived since leaving Wisconsin in 1968, is fiscally conservative. Harry Flood Byrd, Governor and Senator, as a businessman, opposed credit, commercial and governmental.

    The reason was growing up in the Northern Shenandoah Valley after the Civil War. There was food, but no money. It all went to paying Civil War debt. Pay-as-you-go was a limiting, but necessary correction to misuse of debt. The future is: Pay more, get less.

    Democrats could include the spiritual card. Neither party accepts any responsibility for the current failure of the post-Soviet goal of total domination and resultant planetary depletion. War just doesn’t get things done as promised.

    Hypocrisy is always opening new territory. US diplomatic outrage about suppression of Uyghurs in China for their practice of Islam is just one example. The defense is appropriate, but the source is not credible due to everything else.

    #62288
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Not sure how either way would qualify as Adult; Sexual Content. But i’ve requested a review (can take a week). ”

    Ha come on, you think they’re telling you the truth as to why they’re cutting off the money flow to you? When was the last time you worked for a corporate entity Raul? People will screw you just because they don’t like the way you look sometimes, and you don’t even have to have a different color of skin for it to happen (shocking i know). If i were betting man, i’d bet your request for an inquiry into why they’re choking off your money flow will be some sort of corporate speak BS. After a few back and forths they’ll tell you they can’t find anything wrong with it and you’ll still continue to be without any ad revenue.

    #62289
    Mr. House
    Participant

    All these years imagining financial collapse, and trying to explain to people why it was coming, and why you shouldn’t believe politicians, and why anyone involved in government should be removed, and why the parties can’t be trusted, and being ridiculed for trying to warn people. It finally happens, and those who led us to this are still in charge, still have a strangle hold on the narrative and all of us. And the best we can do is throw temper tantrums online, pointing the finger at each other. Perhaps we aren’t worthy of saving ourselves.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/250000-las-vegans-face-eviction-next-month

    #62290
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    @upstateNYer

    Watching his results using my hands off method, quite honestly, I don’t see any difference between what he accomplishes (using that term loosely) and what, say, Obama accomplished. Seems pretty much the same to me. Environment, immigrants, wages, jobs, blah, blah … what, seriously, is the difference between Obama and Trump? No one can actually say, can they, using real statistics? I suggest we put together one of those side-by-side charts and see how these 2 stack up on these pivotal issues. Want to place bets on that? 😉

    OMG, this! I think Trump would fare pretty well in the foreign policy column compared to Obama (no new invasions, hey?) but I couldn’t say how it would wash out on the domestic side. If you don’t follow the minutiae of the Trump Outrage of the Day (“Immigrant children in cages!”, “Trump builds palace in Moscow for Putin!”, “Trump’s hands are actually tiny!” “Trump is literally shoving polar bears off ice floes in the Bering Sea!” etc, etc etc) Trump is just a Republican president, doing the Big Business-friendly things that Republican presidents do. Yes, he’s doing them in his uniquely coarse and uncouth way, with occasional slap-dashes of incompetence, but to me he’s not an outlier at all. Even setting aside Democrat presidents such as Obama, who I think is quite smart, does anyone think that Bush 1 or Bush 2, our two most recent Republican presidents prior to Trump, would have handled the pandemic better?! There would have been the same wishful thinking, the same flip-flops that favored air travel and big business over public health, the same platitudes and nonsense. Does anyone remember James Watt? Does anyone remember “Heckuva job, Brownie!” How about W’s war in Iraq that killed half a million people, predicated on lies? Or the ongoing “civil war” in Syria, started by that Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama, where we armed some of the very same people who were the villains in the prior war, only now we called them moderate rebels? But no, Trump is Hitler and democracy is stake.

    Rant off.

    #62291
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    At least you will still have your toady, V. to comment on the art (angry expat aside) which he has so fastidiously done since you chastised him a couple of years back. As well as Dr. D-mento, that paragon of logic and common sense.

    Say whatever you want in response. I don’t care, I won’t be back to read it.

    My goodness…
    Sounds like an insulted 15 yo girl…lol…
    Oh, and I’m an angry self exiled citizen; not an expat…
    PC has flounced a couple of times before; he’ll be back…it’s a pattern of flouncers across the intertubes… 😉

    #62292
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    The trillions of dollars of the listed twelve oligarchs pretty much run America. Besides the Walton family, most of the rest are intimately involved with DARPA’s Internet that Al Gore took credit for. One, Jeff Bezos, is in a cold war with Donald Trump. The two clans of plutocrats, globalists and nationalists, stomping around, positioning themselves, delayed my mail for the last two weeks. I depend on USPS for delivery of my medicine and paying my bills.

    All twelve, deep in their hearts, deny that outsourcing, cutting taxes, plus deregulation have anything to do with the collapse of government and their rapidly increasing wealth.

    When I retired almost nine years ago all the cubicles where I worked were full of people. Now it is so decimated, the few remaining are moving back to DC when the Office reopens, shortly, despite the COVID-19 pandemic. Donald Trump is a disaster. The Free World is finished. US troops bring the coronavirus contagion with them.

    At least in Maryland, I can vote for the Green Party without the conundrum of being forced to vote for Joe Biden. If Donald Trump wins, there will be a million families with dead grandparents, fathers and mothers, even children. Tens of millions will be without a job or income. There will be critical shortages (California is already having rolling blackouts). Chaos is assured. Globalists and the lackey intelligence operatives will initiate a color revolt.

    On the other hand, if Joe Biden is elected, in January 2021, there will be no change. The federal government will be unable to end the pandemic unless, the jackpot vaccine really works. The unrest and the economic depression will continue. Even with a safe and effective vaccine it will be year or two before everyone feels safe to go out in public and revive the service and air travel industries.

    Without a working vaccine or treatment, it will be 1932, all over again, except without a FDR – a new dark age.

    #62293
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    It’s very apparent a couple of posters here are reading comprehension challenged.
    The repeated assertions, that Ilargi is a Trump supporter (either by comission or omission), are just ludicrous.
    Past that, it’s hardly worth a comment…

    #62294
    zerosum
    Participant

    VietnamVet
    I just couldn’t resist expanding what you said.

    Whoever win, “….. there will be a million families with dead grandparents, fathers and mothers, even children. Tens of millions will be without a job or income. There will be critical shortages …..” everywhere

    #62295
    John Day
    Participant

    @lasttwo: Thanks. I’m glad you appreciated my essay. It seemed to be what I was saying all day yesterday, talking to friends. It looks like I’m voting Green Party again. Jim Hightower said: “If the Gods had meant us to vote, they’d have given us candidates”.

    @Oxymoron
    : Thanks , Amigo. I had read your advice on whitewashing avocado trees in the sun, and I had a couple in partial shade that did get sunburned last year, but I put the drip timer to come on between 2:30 PM and 4:30 PM each day this year, and the sun is causing some discoloration on some exposed green skin, but not burning it, not killing it. Go Cambium! They are sort of thriving.

    @Susmarie108
    : Yes on All Things Must Pass. Sorry about Bernie. He’s long been able to do the long, gradual 180 degree turn, while maintaining his composure. I’m sorry he’s done it again. He has gotten nothing in this deal, for his followers, and they know it. Where’s Tulsi? Disappeared with honor.
    Bye-Bye, Planetary Citizen. Try to get free of the psychosis. It’s trying to take you over. You’ve got the right stuff to be free.
    @MrHouse: Hi. Steady-as-she-goes, Mate!

    @Teri
    : There may be another Texas of oil buried in Alaska. It has been kept top secret after a few wells were drilled in Carter years, then capped off. It could be nothing, but it would have taken them longer to be sure that it was nothing.

    @Ilargi
    :”It’s YOUR FAULT Bush beat Gore!” and stuff like that. You won’t please anybody with partisan-virus this year. The sad fact is that the Titanic is going down , no matter who is barking orders and playing requests up top. That’s overly dramatic of me, but history has taken the helm, and mass psychosis rules, so watch and prepare to survive. (More Internet Porn , Please! I missed it.)
    @Doc Robinson: Thanks. You’re in my same minority, I guess.
    @Donald Trump: Susan B. Anthony? You win that practical joke contest!

    #62297

    @ilargi: (More Internet Porn , Please! I missed it.)

    That’s it, John. Dear Google, could you please point out to me where the Adult Content is, so I can enjoy it too?

    #62298
    Rototillerman
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    @John Day: my wife’s colleague just published the data that the Texas governor hasn’t shared with you. And it supports your 10:1 estimate of infections versus confirmed cases.

    Notes from the Field: Seroprevalence Estimates of SARS-Cov-2

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