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    Dante Gabriel Rossetti Monna Vanna 1866   • Putin Invites Trump To Visit Moscow In ‘Highly Productive’ Call (ZH) • China Offers To Host Putin-Tru
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle February 13 2025]

    #182110
    Red
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    However, NATO needs to spend more on defence to be able to defend itself four or five years from now, he added.

    Due to cutting off the cheap fuel supply from Russia the domestic infrastructure will collapse “sooner than expected”. This will drive discontent within to the point that the individual governments will be spending most of the resources on keeping things under control. For all they claim to know they don’t seem to understand very much.

    #182111
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    We’re pawns in a war between billionaire communist jews vs. billionaire zionist jews. Your government is just a jew handing a puppet king a folder, saying ‘”sign it”. We’ll swing violently left or right depends on the jew at the wheel. Either way, a whole lot of Goyim are gonna get run over.

    #182112
    Red
    Participant

    Meanwhile somewhere in Lebanon:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/2gfQBI8DbG1B

    #182113
    chooch
    Participant

    I feel like a penguin every morning, today is my 1 year anniversary starting each day with a cold shower.

    Dr D Rich, do you live with your mum, the one you used to honey trap Seymour?

    Love the old AI.

    #182114
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @CelticBiker

    So stop being a pawn you pawn. Grab the wheel or something. Just stop already with the endless repetition of the “wake up!” call that isn’t waking anybody up. Maybe if you actually said something that everybody doesn’t already know? Who knows?

    It reminds me of the Yiddish joke about a Jewish lady at the funeral services who kept yelling from the back to “Give him some chicken soup!” Finally the Rabbi had had enough and yelled back at her, “Look, lady, the man is dead! The chicken soup, it’s not going to help!” And the lady says back, “Oy vey, but it can’t hurt.”

    #182115
    Dora
    Participant
    #182116
    zerosum
    Participant

    Illusion, Competition, control, fear, king of the hill, Peace, Valentine,
    ————-
    “It’s not optional for us to reduce the federal expenses, it’s essential.”
    Spending money that don’t exist.
    ———–
    • China Offers To Host Putin-Trump Summit (RT)

    The US president later indicated that their first meeting would “probably” take place soon in Saudi Arabia.

    “… our relationship will prioritize empowering Europe to own responsibility for its own security,” Hegseth said.

    The Trump administration’s willingness to consider certain Russian demands, including keeping Ukraine out of NATO, marks a significant shift in US foreign policy.
    Trump previously stated that he understands Russia’s stance on the issue.
    Speaking to reporters in Florida last month, he said Moscow’s position had long been “written in stone,” but that former President Joe Biden had ignored it, contributing to the current conflict.

    ————–
    • Musk Calls For Complete Overhaul of NATO (RT)

    … warned that Washington would not defend those NATO countries that fail to meet their financial commitments.
    German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius stated that Berlin “could neither afford that nor spend” 5% of its GDP for this purpose.
    President Trump was considering scaling back the number of American troops stationed in Europe by 20%.
    ———-
    • Trump Sees ‘Tremendous Kickbacks’ In US Government Contracts (RT)
    ———
    • Why They Really Hate Elon Musk (Mises)
    Today, virtually all the giant corporations that dominate these industries owe their positions to government policies set up in their favor—to the detriment of the American public.
    ————
    • Left Will Push Violent Revolution Against Trump – Larry Klayman (USAW)
    “Trump says he’s going to obey the orders, and I don’t think he should… Trump should not obey the orders.
    That is the fastest way to get it to the Supreme Court, and that is not to obey the orders..”

    he Left wants us dead – they really do.
    They want to have complete control.
    Now that control has been taken away from them in an election, they are not going to go quietly.
    If they don’t get what they want in court, and they probably won’t, they are going to be violent, and this could ratchet up more and more.”
    ————
    Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets. Anna Paulina Luna.

    • New Task Force To Probe jFK, RFK, MLK Murders, Epstein’s ‘Lolita Express’ (RT)

    The establishment of the task force was announced by the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, James Comer (R-Ky.), who said it would “build on the Trump administration’s efforts to declassify records of national importance.” Trump signed an executive order to release federal records linked to the assassinations of the two Kennedys and King soon after his inauguration in January.
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    • Trump Admin Eyes Billions Going to California High-Speed Train (Turley)

    Both a federal investigation and a cessation of funding are long overdue.
    It is time to bite the bullet.
    California has every right to spend over $100 billion during budget deficits, but the rest of the country should not subsidize it.
    —————

    #182117
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/img_2278.jpg?w=550&ssl=1

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/img_2235.jpg?w=555&ssl=1

    #182118
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Initiator for a peace deal in Ukraine.
    Akin to a guy who banged and still banging his wife, calling a husband to consider reconciliation to “stop the pain on both sides and it’s not good for the kids either”.

    Musk and his task.
    While having an overwhelming support from the Trump voters (and many non-voters too) there is a (legitimate?) question of constitutionality of his appointment. So we have non-elected guy cleaning the mess that constitutionally elected officials, who swore on that “just a piece of paper” (Dubya), had created.
    The Constitution has not prevented the country to be run (and still is) by the”robber barons”, 1913, 1963, 2001, 2020…
    so every once in a while “outside intervention” is required, short of bloody CW.

    #182119
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I believe that the essence of so-called cancel culture (and other Satanic cultures both public and private) can be condensed down to the single false assertion that you do not have the right to refuse or disagree. That asserted lie would include of course, that you also do not have the right to disagree with the basic assertion that you do not have the right to disagree.

    So what do you think? Do you think that you have the right to disagree?

    #182121
    jb-hb
    Participant

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/img_2238-1.png?w=768&ssl=1

    Judge Temporarily Blocks DOGE From Accessing Federal Student Aid Data

    What an odd thing to say

    “It Stops Today”: DOJ Sues New York, Governor Hochul, And NY AG Letitia James Over Licenses For Illegals

    I still have never seen anyone that looks like an illegal migrant driving a student driver car with an instructor. Denver supposedly “welcomed” 40,000+ in a SINGLE YEAR and I still haven’t seen a single one. The cars are identifiable by their big STUDENT DRIVER signs, bumper stickers, etc.

    PS why are my car insurance rates going up so high and fast?

    I’m still talking to young people with zero claims, tickets, or accidents getting quotes $4,500-$5,500 for 6 month auto insurance. There is no point to starting out with a part time job as your first job. Guaranteed to be underwater.

    Same people that made so many more traffic accidents, vandalism, theft etc to drive up insurance rates are the same people that made public transit and walking on a city street super undesirable. I guess because reality is the ultimate oppression, so if we can just defeat all common sense, which is based on reality, we will “win”

    The people of America are competing with roughly $2,000,000,000,000-$3,000,000,000,000 in spending by elites and managerial class totally outside of the capitalist economy. These people were not even content to wallow in the unaccounted spending, they had to bring in waves and waves of millions of people to subsidize in every way to compete directly with normal people. They weren’t even content to live in their affluent bubble.

    Now some of them are wringing their hands at various groups voting for Trump – a quote from the Geek Culture community:

    “Because video games made it clear that there was nothing small enough to escape their destructive praxis, that there was no one thing to be left alone. “All is political” is a declaration of intent. “We will MAKE everything political” was the actual statement behind it. You’re right, you’ve made everything political, literally.”

    https://i0.wp.com/www.barnhardtmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/img_2156-1.jpg?resize=768%2C722&ssl=1

    #182122
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I came across an analysis the other day of a specific USAID program that spent a few tens of millions of dollars on slandering, libeling, and lawfare etc people for political reasons.

    It resulted in 5-6 BILLION dollars in fines on the targets. Now that’s leveraging your resources.

    And that was just ONE program. And only measuring the FINES as opposed to the total cost to society of such programs which is almost immeasurable.

    It’s like Stalin has been walking around with a baby in a baby-carrier on his chest for 3 decades. You can’t shoot at Stalin – don’t you like babies?

    What’s the cost/benefit ratio? 1,000,000,000:1? You cannot rule over everyone and continually, blissfully work on making everyone miserable because you grabbed a baby.

    You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!”

    ― Andrew Jackson

    #182127
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Follow up from yesterday. O’Keeffe is something!
    Washington DC (I assume), sad lonely place of a “sold souls”.

    #182128
    zerosum
    Participant

    Can copilot do critical thinking on my comments of today?
    Would copilot’s answers be helpful in arriving at an action?

    Let’s break this down and explore the various viewpoints. I’ll summarize some potential propaganda elements and the differing perspectives on each topic.

    Federal Expenses
    Argument for Reducing Expenses:

    It’s essential to cut federal expenses to ensure long-term economic stability.

    Reducing the deficit can prevent inflation and manage the national debt.

    Counterpoint:

    Cutting federal expenses can negatively impact social programs and public services.

    Investment in public infrastructure and services is crucial for economic growth.

    China Hosting Putin-Trump Summit
    Pro-Summit Viewpoint:

    Hosting the summit in a neutral country like Saudi Arabia can facilitate diplomatic discussions.

    It might lead to de-escalation of tensions and better international relations.

    Criticism:

    Skepticism about the effectiveness of such summits, especially without concrete agreements.

    Concerns over potential concessions that might undermine national security or allies’ interests.

    NATO Overhaul
    Musk’s Perspective:

    NATO needs a complete overhaul to ensure fair financial contributions from all member states.

    U.S. should not bear the majority of defense costs for NATO.

    Counterpoint:

    NATO’s current structure ensures collective security and stability in Europe.

    Reducing U.S. involvement might weaken the alliance and embolden adversaries.

    Government Contracts Kickbacks
    Criticism of Government Contracts:

    Allegations of kickbacks suggest corruption and misuse of public funds.

    Calls for greater transparency and accountability in awarding contracts.

    Defense:

    Government contracts are essential for supporting industries and creating jobs.

    Implementing stricter regulations could address concerns about corruption.

    Elon Musk and Giant Corporations
    Mises Institute Viewpoint:

    Criticism of government policies favoring giant corporations at the expense of the public.

    Argument for reducing government intervention to promote free market competition.

    Counterpoint:

    Government policies can help stabilize industries and protect jobs.

    Some regulations are necessary to prevent monopolies and ensure fair practices.

    Potential Violent Revolution Against Trump
    Larry Klayman’s Warning:

    Suggests that the Left may resort to violence if their demands are not met.

    Calls for Trump to defy court orders as a strategy to escalate the issue to the Supreme Court.

    Counterpoint:

    Promoting defiance of legal orders undermines the rule of law.

    Encouraging violence is dangerous and can lead to civil unrest and instability.

    Task Force on Declassification
    Pro-Declassification Viewpoint:

    Efforts to declassify records promote transparency and public accountability.

    Investigating historical events can help uncover the truth and provide closure.

    Criticism:

    Concerns about national security and the potential risks of releasing sensitive information.

    Some believe it could be a political move to discredit certain individuals or administrations.

    California High-Speed Train Funding
    Criticism of Funding:

    Federal investigation and cessation of funding are seen as necessary to address budget deficits.

    Argument that the rest of the country should not subsidize California’s projects.

    Counterpoint:

    Investment in high-speed rail can stimulate economic growth and improve infrastructure.

    Federal funding for state projects can promote nationwide development and connectivity.

    By examining multiple perspectives, we can better understand the complexities of each issue and recognize potential propaganda. Critical thinking and evaluating information from various sources are key to forming well-informed opinions. If you have a specific topic you’d like to dive deeper into, let me know!

    #182129
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Along the same lines as my preceding comment, I believe that people have a real hard time with the absolute basics of what are basic human rights. I can say that with confidence because I’m just one of those people, too, and all too human on top of it. I am speaking from experience and from having a personal stake in the game that I certainly have not played from the sidelines.

    Here is what I believe are the most basic human rights, starting with the hardest one first.

    We all have the right to exist, to be, and not subjected to annihilation. This isn’t to say that this right somehow gives us an additional right to interfere with other people’s right to exist too. It just means that we all have the right to be, and thereby experience existence itself as consciously aware selves.

    We have the right to think and speak what ever we want. This is absolute and unlimited in every way and it can not be infringed in any way whatsoever without the instantaneous and automatic cancellation of it as actual a right. Even the tiniest or least infringement of the right to think and say absolutely anything that you want is demonstration that the “right” isn’t actually a right at all, but merely a limited permission granted by some higher authority. That makes it a “conditional privilege” or even a “temporary permission with strings and prerequisites attached.” So, free speech is either a right, and free, or it is not. There is no in-between.

    We have free will, which cannot be taken away from us without our express uncoerced permission. This also is NOT license for us to use our free will to remove, suppress or deny the free will of other people, EXCEPT (and here’s the catch, described below) in those rare and special cases where an individual must exercise the last and final inalienable human right of them all, which is:

    We have the right to defend ourselves. Specifically, we have the inalienable God given right to protect ourselves from people and things which seek to remove, by force, those other inalienable, God given, rights that I just listed out above..

    These matters are being put the supreme test right now, and nowhere is that test more visible and consequential than Palestine.

    What are rights? Who has them?

    #182130
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    #182131
    those darned kids
    Participant

    seems like which rights you get depends on which plan you purchase.

    #182132
    jb-hb
    Participant

    seems like which rights you get depends on which plan you purchase.

    https://i.redd.it/gcswx4k43l2b1.jpg

    #182133
    Red
    Participant

    “So what do you think? Do you think that you have the right to disagree?”

    You certainly do, just not too loudly or out in public! Unless of course you’re for the narrative of the regime of the time you’re in.

    #182134
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @ThoseDarnedKids
    “seems like which rights you get depends on which plan you purchase.”

    That line made my wife and I both belly laugh the instant we read it.

    #182135
    Dora
    Participant

    RFK Jr confirmed 51 to 47 as the new Secretary of HHS, Health & Human Services.

    #182136
    those darned kids
    Participant

    good.

    now, pull all the vaccines.

    every

    single

    one.

    #182137
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Full spectrum Free Speech! Can you imagine it? Let the criminals lie out loud to their heart’s content, only NOW we get full access to all communication lines and channels in the world to tell the full and uncensored truth about it.

    #182138
    jb-hb
    Participant

    social programs and public services.

    The baby strapped to Josef Stalin’s chest.

    But it turned out 99.9% of the time, it was a creepy silicone baby puppet holding a steak knife.

    Stalin would step up to people and stab them 62 times with the baby puppet, shrug his shoulders, smiling, and walk off.

    People who wanted to go after the baby would get scolded down by mostly white “liberal” women – don’t be a big meanie to the baby.

    What was strange was, the baby puppet was being used to stab QUITE A LOT of babies, but the libs were super, super concerned for JUST the baby-puppet.

    The 0.01% of the time it WAS a baby was when the libs demanded overwhelming proof from others, WATCHED Stalin switch the puppet out with a baby, and said “SEE! A real baby!”

    #182139
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    @tdk: “Pull all the vaccines”

    I think we’ll get there, and not before very long, but even more important than the act of pulling them is the act of EXPOSING them. When TAE Summary and I started collecting links and papers and data in 2022 for our documentation project “A Tale of Two Narratives” there was an uncontested statement in both narratives:

    “Vaccines are good and have eradicated polio, measles, whooping cough and other diseases”

    I had suspicions about the childhood vaccine schedule, but nothing concrete I could put in that section. Bit by bit, however, people started looking into it, talking about it, challenging it. A few drips of information became a trickle, and trickle of information became a stream. I think that we’re about to see that stream become a river, and I hope that river crushes those who have lied to the American public for forty years.

    #182140
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Me thinks democrats doth protest too much

    Remember they wanted to do this a few years ago?

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-admin-backs-tracking-bank-accounts-600-annual/story?id=80665505

    #182141
    zerosum
    Participant

    I’ve got a smart TV.
    I can still talk to the TV.
    I can and do express my opinions to the TV.
    I don’t know for how long, because they are planning to inbed AI, so that Smart TV can talk back.

    #182142
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Here we go – don’ be a big meanie to the baby!

    USAID: The Guilt Trip Begins
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2025-02-13/usaid-guilt-trip-begins

    “Evil” That’s how Armand Domalewski characterized the USAID funding freeze after a 71 year old woman died. Did They Let This Woman Die On Purpose?

    Given the relative pittance it would have cost to extend her life, it seems so.

    “This woman was a Burmese refugee in Thailand, who was getting oxygen therapy at an @RESCUEorg-operated clinic there.

    The CEO of the International Rescue Committee, @DMiliband , makes over $1.1 million per year.

    You can buy oxygen cannisters in Thailand for about $90.”

    reply: “And Bangkok Industrial Gas offers free refills of medical oxygen canisters.

    Cost of extending old Burmese lady’s life: ~$90

    Opportunity to morally preen over her death: priceless. “

    David Miliband – CEO of USAID Funded International Rescue Committee, makes over #1.1 million per year
    https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/Top%20Image_35.jpg?itok=3NS1RaR5

    #182143

    RFK, jr confirmed makes me pretty happy.
    I spent the whole morning watching Benz on Joe Rogan. Almost the whole page today can be explained by what he discusses.
    Populism, judge seeding and shopping, censorship lockstep, music and “revolt”…..

    #182144
    Dimitri
    Participant

    Where is Dr D?

    #182145
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @Raúl Ilargi Meijer

    Yeah, Ilargi. Is Dr D okay? Can you drop him a direct eMail or something? @DrD not posting this morning is like the rooster not crowing. Worrisome.

    #182146
    jb-hb
    Participant

    PHONE CALL – FEBRUARY 2025

    Zelensky: Hi, Bro. I was thinking we could have a talk about ending this war.

    Putin: We always welcome frank, honest discussion with our partners.

    Zelensky: I was thinking we could do a…. lAnD eXcHaNgE. Har. Har. Haaaaar.

    Putin: Could you, ah… could you hold on for just a sec?

    Zelensky: Sure, bro.

    Putin: Okay, back. You were saying?

    Zelensky: I was saying, an exch— oh hang on, now I need a minute. Important call, bro.

    Putin: You still there, Z? I mean…. E?

    Zelensky: (stonily) Yeah.

    Putin: You were saying?

    Zelensky: Never mind.

    Putin: You heard about the Kursk pocket being gone, didn’t you.

    Didn’t you?

    E? You still there, E?

    (the Kursk pocket will magically disappear the moment Russia wants “talks”)

    #182147
    zerosum
    Participant

    Enjoy
    https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1997082/

    Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks and answers to media questions at a joint news conference following talks with Foreign Minister of the Republic of Tajikistan S. Muhriddin, Moscow, February 13, 2025

    #182148
    those darned kids
    Participant

    roto: thanks for the reply!

    I think we’ll get there, and not before very long,
    •• this is extremely horrible as babies around the world are being poisoned right now. i know some.

    but even more important than the act of pulling them is the act of EXPOSING them.
    •• one fireside chat with the real numbers and we’re done.

    When TAE Summary and I started collecting links and papers and data in 2022 for our documentation project “A Tale of Two Narratives” there was an uncontested statement in both narratives:
    •• kudos to both

    “Vaccines are good and have eradicated polio, measles, whooping cough and other diseases”
    •• that must have hurt typing that.

    I had suspicions about the childhood vaccine schedule, but nothing concrete I could put in that section.
    •• many curtains, here in oz.

    Bit by bit, however, people started looking into it, talking about it, challenging it.
    •• actually, people had been doing it since the advent of vaccines; all were smitten.

    A few drips of information became a trickle, and trickle of information became a stream. I think that we’re about to see that stream become a river, and I hope that river
    •• nicely worked metaphor! let’s hope the dams don’t go up and hoover away our dreams.

    crushes those
    •• no. sweeps them away through deltas and through the golf of america, into the great briny whence upon [prepositions, yeah!] they land on monster island (where they don’t even have dial-up) to stay fo’eva!

    who have lied to the American public for forty years.
    •• who have poisoned global babies for at least a century.

    thanks, roto

    #182149
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    @michael-reid

    I appreciate all posts, as they are grist for the mill, so don’t take my criticism personally. It is directed at Mr. Wolff.

    I caught the live version of Nima’a podcast earlier today just as Richard Wolff started going on about how Biden and Blinken were still seeing Russia from the Soviet boogeyman perspective. That they were in denial, blah blah blah…

    Had to kill it right there, as I can never listen to that Marxist idiot without my brain starting to hurt. What a load of bullshit. Why not just admit both Biden and Blinken were installed pawns in a global power play to destroy both Russia and the US so that they can set up their NWO global totalitarian planetary government? Too soon to go there? People aren’t ready for the truth? Either way, stop giving this knucklehead an audience he can mislead with his inanities.

    As for the confirmation of Tulsi and RFK, I find myself hoping that this will be the beginning of a great reformation of not only our government, but all western governments. That the globalist satanic cult will get exposed to bright sunshine and quickly pulverized. That books will be written about how close we came to their hell on earth control grid and depopulation schemes, and whenever their names are mentioned, people will spit in disgust and vow never again.

    #182150
    zerosum
    Participant

    Ukraine bought American weapons with American money.

    #182151
    zerosum
    Participant

    Wake Up = Reciprocal Tariffs = “Sales Taxes”

    #182152
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #182153
    John Day
    Participant

    @DBS: If “rights” are conditional, then you have the right to free-will, freedom of choice, but everything that happens as a result is also unconstrained, as other entities also have free will.
    Some philosophers posit that free will is an illusion, but it is a pervasively convincing illusion, so I’m going with it.
    Thanks for hearing me out.
    You didn’t have to…

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