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  • #101637
    Oroboros
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    MSMedia Maggots incestuous self referencing death spiral in artistic form, performed by, who else, themselves.

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    #101638
    boscohorowitz
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    “He is throwing the absurd tantrums because he is being ordered to. He has no option to hesitate or refuse (unless, “Do what I say or I’ll kill you” , is some kind of real option.)”

    This makes very good sense. For that reason, I will try to slice it to shreds with Occam’s Razor. Just to see what grouse that might flush out of the bush and tighten it even further toward conviction and certitude.

    A) Maybe he just really is that stupid. It’s possible. I don’t know. I’ve ignored Trudy from day one as an opportunistic icky.

    B) I got nuttin’.

    #101639
    Oroboros
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    Pierre Turdeau first greeting his bad seed spawn in the hospital

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    #101640
    Oroboros
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    #101641
    ctbarnum
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    Powerful speech. We are at war with governments and corporations who have declared war on us for the love of money.

    #101642
    Oroboros
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    Russia Mocks US, Requests ‘Full List Of Ukraine Invasion Dates’ For Year Ahead

    #101643
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Putin’s Ukraine Strategy

    #101644
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    I just read Doc Robinson’s instructions on how to post an image in a comment on this site so this comment is an attempt at posting an image of me in my new wood cutting outfit.

    #101645
    Oroboros
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    #101646
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Better Things Poisons for Better Living Population Control…Through Chemistry

    Ethylene oxide meeting highlights concerns as recalls continue:

    A number of European countries have again expressed concerns about how the ethylene oxide contamination incidents are being handled.

    Several nations highlighted the high burden of required action as more products are found to be contaminated at low levels from different origins and described it as “no longer manageable.”

    Ethylene oxide meeting highlights concerns as recalls continue

    #101647
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    tdk:

    WOW. That shaminism literature is eerily fitting in so well with the direction I was already in I feel like I might actually be onto something more than just a story. Huh.

    #101648
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Michael Reid:

    You know what they say about the length of a man’s chainsaw.;) I see you’ve graduated way beyond mere ‘redneck’ to “Orange Man”. Trump is envious.

    #101649
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    The demoncrats want your toddlers too.

    #101650
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Waiting for other shoes to drop:

    One wonders if there really was some actionable plan to false flag Russia into attacking or at least claim Russia did said false flag act, which seems stupid because it’s so unlikely that Russia would do anything and the rest of the world knows it by now), but when did stupidity stop the clueless from being bumbling buffoons?

    If so, one wonders if said plan was a) squelched from within, or b) by a very precise communication from Putinski, or c) even by foreign agents abroad effectively stymying the operation.

    If c), one wonders if they have means to show the world what the USA was up to.

    If they do, one wonders if they’re waiting for a better moment to reveal it.

    If so, then one also wonders if the logic for ‘a better moment’ is mostly, ‘Not now, because our enemy is thoroughly discrediting itself without our help. We’ll save this kompromat for later.”

    #101651
    boscohorowitz
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    #101652
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    In violation of HIPAA laws.

    Thank goodness I only get the rapid antigen test, which turned out negative again after going through five states to visit my sister. I did not see a mask anywhere until stopping at a university to inquire about a teaching position.

    CDC Casually Admits Covid Nose Swabs Ended Up in a Lab for Genomic Sequencing Analysis

    #101653
    ezlxa1949
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    Sorry to be glum but I think the Canadian protestors have lost this battle. I don’t know if it was planned this way, but Canada has served as a proving ground for repressive techniques. From where I sit, they appear to have been quite successful. Maybe not; but the current mood of TPTB and the apparent quiescence of the bulk of the population means that the Emergency Powers Act likely will be invoked as often as necessary.

    I expect now that the abolition of cash will be done first in Canada. And spread as a preventative measure. It’s all about national security, don’cha know.

    I keep coming back to Uruguay as an example of a democratic country that went fascist. A series of economic crises and the fight against left-wing guerillas provoked a coup d’état in 1973. Eventually democracy was returned in 1985, but the period left deep hurts in the population and calls for justice which have not been acted upon. One of my workmates years ago was a young fellow whose parents had fled Uruguay for Australia, which at that time was indeed a place of refuge for (many) oppressed people.

    What the glorious west is seeing now is a coup d’état but from the top, by those already in power, not even a palace revolution. A new development in history? Probably other examples from elsewhere but I lack the time to find them.

    #101654
    those darned kids
    Participant

    The situation on Ukraine’s borders remains stable as of the morning of February 16, and nothing unexpected is happening, according to Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov.

    He said this during a special telethon dedicated to the Day of Unity, according to an Ukrinform correspondent.

    “Our intelligence officials see everything. We are in constant contact with our partners, our data coincide and our country is ready for any scenario. This morning, like every single day, I received another summary with figures and facts, and they fully correspond to our forecasts and do not contain anything unexpected,” Reznikov said.

    #101655
    WES
    Participant

    Except for Ottawa, the trucker’s protests at all border crossings has stopped.
    The only thing left, is to wonder about the timing for dismantling the border blockades.
    Is it to remove the political need for the war measures act?

    #101656
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Under this umbrella, commenters can comment as a way to contribute, a way to connect and interact, a way of meeting some human needs.

    I “comment” to share “real reality” that I was rudely awakened into almost 30 years ago, via the Christian Patriot Fax network ~ I stand on the shoulders of giants, who gave their lives to bring Freedom to the masses ~ Nothing to my knowledge establishes a better foundation than Natural Law as established by John Locke, progenitors of The Age of Reason, the Sons of Liberty during the American Revolution. Nothing…

    Although I occasionally stray in pontification regarding the current state of the bezzle, I try my best to plant seeds that may later be useful to future generations looking for answers as to how America failed & was captured by murderous Imperial fascism.

    I refrain from employing “clever” devices for self aggrandizing, as I daily endeavor to deny my EGO’s tendencies to seek illusions of grandeur, but I do attempt to practice the basics of “public” decorum…

    After witnessing numerous online “communities” devolve into the anarchy of cunning personality contests, incessant verbal bomb throwing & other manifestations of various partisan CULT behaviors, I have grown weary of useful idiots in self-centered trances perverting useful info/discussion into more noise than signal.

    As has been illuminated several times in TAE’s discussions, TPTB/TBTF are not really a secret cabal, it is a ravenous creed that views humanity as chattel, nation states as weapons to deploy, technology as a tool to conquer…

    The “Narrative” has all but torn the Social Contract asunder, has openly declared war on the “deplorables”, is turning the very concept of right & wrong, lies vs. truth, into a taboo subject through the constant mind f#ckery psyop broadcasts by legacy media & political/.GOV mouthpieces.

    This is no time for clever, cute, self indulgent fluffery by wannabe wordsmiths seeking to titillate the senses with their “creative” prose, one can always find MSM word monkeys for such pablum, or communities of twits on fakebook, tick wok et al. to seek such an audience…

    We are standing on the edge of a knife, with life itself in the balance, our words should have meaning, we should seek sober ground to unite against the malady of NPD mass formation psychosis, or not.

    To serve in Heaven, or reign in Hell, that is poll of “The Narrative”, Us vs. Them…

    Choose wisely,

    Gary

    #101657
    Huskynut
    Participant

    Ditty de jour:
    “Ohhhhhhh…
    The grand old Duke of York
    He borrowed 12 million quid
    He gave it to someone
    He’d never ever met
    and for something he never did”

    #101658
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “This is no time for clever, cute, self indulgent fluffery by wannabe wordsmiths seeking to titillate the senses with their “creative” prose, one can always find MSM word monkeys for such pablum, or communities of twits on fakebook, tick wok et al. to seek such an audience…”

    Of course, you’re not expressing your EGO when anointing yourself Kind of What Should and Shouldn’t Be Done. Oh no. You’d never do that. You’re obviously much too humble for that.

    From where I stand, I see in you a constant motion toward self-aggrandizement while pretending the opposite. Let’s add puffery to fluffery. And then let’s get back to talking about things that matter, not smack about each other, o wise fount of humility.

    #101659
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I don’t know how current this is other than purportedly today:

    Ottawa 1

    Ottawa 2 (4 hours ago)

    Ottawa 3 (current more or less)

    Looks diminished but not yet over. Hope is bubble-ish. When I blow bubbles, I let them pop themselves. Let us wait and see.

    #101660
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Truck count down from about 4k to 350. The Maccabees. We shall see. Turbulent times like this protest can ricochet wildly.

    #101661
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Rock. Dog. Yelp!

    #101662
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @ Boogaloo said:

    Following the principle of Occam’s Razor, masks are the best explanation for why Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, China, and Singapore have done much, much, much much much better over the last two years than the West. No, it’s not the kimchee. No, it’s not the sweet and sour pork. No, it is not the sushi. No, it’s not even the chili crab. It’s the masks.

    I live in Hong Kong and I can tell you that your analysis is incorrect for Hong Kong and China. Hong Kong has quarantined all travellers for 3 weeks when they enter the country, that has enabled them to keep Covid out of the country. I believe both Japan and Korea have done the same, as has Taiwan. Quarantine is a proven tactic for thousands of years, so no surprise it worked for a while.

    Now Omicron is rampaging through Hong Kong and the government response is a combination of panic, lockdowns and trying to scare the elderly into getting vaccinated. Lockdowns include restaurats, gyms, churches etc and forcing all office workers to work from home. Masks have done nothing to prevent this despite the Hong Kong compliance rate of 100% along with strict social distancing rules. The vaccines have also been useless as a the proportion of vaccinated cases is the same as the proportion of vaccinated in the population.

    Hong Kong has a zero Covid policy which has obviously failed. They cannot change that policy until their bosses in Beijing give the nod and do the same. They will need a strategy to do this as everybody in China knows that the policy has failed (China has masses of cases, even at the specially protected Olympics) but the policy cannot be removed without a massive loss of face. They will not accept a loss of face – although face has already been lost as everybody can see the glaring failure – so they need a strategy to get rid of the policy by blaming someone else.

    My guess is that they are allowing the Pfizer pill into the country as part of a tactic to get rid of the zero Covid policy. With a new pill available that will cure people, they have a reason to update their policy and allow Covid to run wild as they have Western-medicine’s best protection. When the pill is proven to not work – as it inevitably will – the Chinese can blame Pfizer and, by association, the USA.

    #101663
    zerosum
    Participant

    Suck it up. Go home
    The trucker liberty convoy rudely awakened many people about our falsehood of our democracy.
    We do not have a special free society that cannot be taken away by our wise snob leaders who don’t want to give up power.
    We are the serfs, The snob don’t like to be refused obedience.

    #101664
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    ezlxa1949 wrote:
    “What the glorious west is seeing now is a coup d’état but from the top, by those already in power, not even a palace revolution.”

    I agree with your comment. Here in Canada when I spoke to my father a couple of days ago I said to him I believe what is going on here in this country is a coup by the Davos crowd. So far he is not biting on this assessment. I expect the CBC will have to tell him same before he reaches this conclusion.

    #101665
    oxymoron
    Participant

    DBS wrote All roads lead back to British Intelligence, City of London/Wall Street and the British Crown. Further, the last time I checked, Canada is very very much an OFFICIALLY & SWORN LEGALLY SUBSERVIENT extension of both the British Crown AND British Intelligence AND City of London.

    Yep. Australia is worse. My property here in Aus is crown land. I still have to pay the mortgage though.

    #101666
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Rock. Dog. Yelp!”

    See? That’s not arrogant. Why not cut to the chase and compare me to a cockroach? In the process, further revealing certain aspects of your nature you probably prefer people not see. Wanna make it personal, then it’s personal.

    Or, maybe apologize. Manfully and all that stuff. Anyway, you missed.

    cdr

    #101667
    chooch
    Participant

    Let’s put an exclamation point on that.

    #101668
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Weird but Tangentially Relevant Topic Alert; If You Fit the Word Prudish, Avoidance Is Advised:

    Point A) Bestiality is more prevalent than we want to know, has been around for a long long time. I spent in a month in jail with a Mexican gentleman named Oscar, standup guy who stood by me when things got rough in there, who was a renowned burro fucker in his home town.

    Point B) around ten years ago, this geneticist published a theory that human evolution includes monkey/pig interbreeding. Actually, the data fits pretty well, best this layman could tell,\. It required one accept that bestiality is fairly common among, uh, beasts too.

    A chimp-pig hybrid origin for humans?

    “…an impressive body of evidence suggesting that human origins can be best explained by hybridization between pigs and chimpanzees. Extraordinary theories require extraordinary evidence and McCarthy does not disappoint. Rather than relying on genetic sequence comparisons, he instead offers extensive anatomical comparisons, each of which may be individually assailable, but startling when taken together. Why weren’t these conclusions arrived at much sooner? McCarthy suggests it is because of an over-dependence on genetic data among biologists. He argues that humans are probably the result of multiple generations of backcrossing to chimpanzees, which in nucleotide sequence data comparisons would effectively mask any contribution from pig.

    “Generally speaking, interspecies hybrids—like mules, ligers (lion-tiger hybrids), or zedonks (zebra-donkey hybrids)—are less fertile than the parents that produced them. However, as McCarthy has documented in his years of research into hybrids, many crosses produce hybrids that can produce offspring themselves. The mule, he notes, is an exceptionally sterile hybrid and not representative of hybrids as a whole. When it comes time to play the old nuclear musical chairs and produce gametes, some types of hybrids do a much better job. Liger females, for example, can produce offspring in backcrosses with both lions and tigers. McCarthy also points out that fertility can be increased through successive backcrossing with one of the parents, a common technique used by breeders. In the case of chimp – pig hybridization, the “direction of the cross” would likely have been a male boar or pig (Sus scrofa) with a female chimp (Pan troglodytes), and the offspring would have been nurtured by a chimp mother among chimpanzees (shades of Tarzan!). The physical evidence for this is convincing, as you can discover for yourself with a trip over to macroevolution.net.”

    Point C) Monkey-pig hybrids created by Chinese scientists

    “Researchers hope to use chimera animals to help grow human organs for transplantation” Saturday 07 December 2019

    It would seem that mere get-it-on bestiality doesn’t satisfy human interests. Now we want to make babies with them.

    You’re the Reason Our Kids are Ugly

    #101669
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @EoinW said:

    PPS Mask mandates have one single purpose: to humiliate people. No one can show their face in public without the government’s permission.

    It also gives people the “feeling” that the government cares for their safety, so it plays into the fantasy of benevolent government that exists in the minds of modern western retards – the majority of citizens who are primarily guided by feelings.

    #101670
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Jo0e Zawinul was surely quite aware of Christian Vander who surely was quire aware of Joe Zawinul. Vander can, if anything, create an even more powerful but ever-varying groove than Joe:

    Another Day

    #101671
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Bosco I love you but if someone is getting the shits with you, you know you can just let that be a thing you know. But do what you want – I aint gettin’ in no scuffle with yer. Expect silence if you come at me.

    Me I’m more insecure and suffer when criticised especially by people I admire – you Dr D, Raul, others here…

    People are not always challenging each other just being annoyed. And annoying. We can all be annoying.

    #101672
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    A group of Republican senators is threatening to withhold support for funding the government by a Friday shutdown deadline unless they get a vote on defunding remaining federal vaccine mandates — renewing a stand they took ahead of the last deadline in December.

    In an open “Dear Colleague” letter on Monday, Sens. Mike Lee of Utah, Roger Marshall of Kansas, Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming, Mike Braun of Indiana, Rand Paul of Kentucky, and Ted Cruz of Texas stated their intention to oppose a stopgap government funding measure unless their demands are met.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/gop-senators-demand-vote-to-defund-vaccine-mandates-before-funding-government

    ‘Trudeau is Alone’: Fifth Canadian Province Abandons Vaccine Passports Amid Crackdown on Freedom Convoy

    https://trendingpolitics.com/trudeau-is-alone-fifth-canadian-province-abandons-vaccine-passports-amid-crackdown-on-freedom-convoy-knab/

    This Did Not End Well… Musician Boasts About Getting COVID Booster on Twitter – Then Gets Pericarditis 3 Days Later

    Neil Young’s Music Quietly Returns to Spotify

    #101673
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “…the minds of modern western retards – the majority of citizens who are primarily guided by feelings.”

    Putting aside that you appear to have dismissed the bulk of your fellow specie members as retards, an attitude worthy of George Soros (think about it….), I’ll note that the etiology of this ‘retardation’ is not really known.

    Feelings are hugely important parts of any logic which is why an AI a zillion times smarter than a man will still misread humanity in its predictions and suggested strategies.

    Feelings are what got me kicked out of the house as a teenager which was the start of my road to mental liberation from what feels (there’s that word again!) like mental slavery. Many friends of mine who played chess and learned calculus and practiced all kinds of critical thinking are now successful in corporate indentureshits (is2!) and blithely drinking all the Kool-Aid they can hold.

    People with significantly less emotions than most of us — psychopaths — are notorious for not seeing the problems they create for themselves and others.

    So perhaps the problem with these “retards” is neither an abundance of emotion or paucity of logical cognition, but the natural consequence of being raised in environments ill suited to healthy human development.

    Emancipate Ourselves

    #101674
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @Veracious Poet

    Gary, you are SUCH a self righteous, cognitively ossified pontificating ponce that the only thing keeping me from laughing at you is that YOUR NARROW GUAGE TRAIN OF THOUGHT is at least TRYING to huff and chuff up the right hill. Every little bit helps.

    I am also just pleased as punch that you adore John Locke, I like the guy too, but listen up : Locke no more invented Natural Law, nor wound it all up in a finalizing gift-wrap-and-ribbon for all time than he invented God or gravity. Philosophy was neither born nor died in the 17th Century.

    Put a cork in it about my style, and as for your prissy, narrow minded, judgmental dictates and unsolicited guideline for acceptable communication, save them for making a job application to Justin Trudeau . I hear he’s looking for a few more sourpuss mean spirited puritanically authoritarian hypocrites.

    Oddly enough, I still don’t think that you’re a bad guy under all of that self righteous ‘not-quite-bright’ envious puffery, but I swear that if you take even ONE more sly, nasty, side swipe at me, or Boz or any other well intentioned person around here I will fucking DISMANTLE every word you post from that moment forward.

    At least with deflationista the bastard came straight atcha. You’re more the bushwhacker snipe from hiding type. That’s really despicable, ya know? Like, cowardly.

    I play with words as a means of stress relief while tackling tough subject material. I take my broader responsibilities very seriously and post to TAE as a sort of self-assigned public service in addition to that. You have absolutely no right to fault me for my efforts, nor should it even concern you. If I am WRONG about something, then roast my feet mercilessly , but HOW I choose to convey what I see as truth is MY business, not yours.

    I mean it, VP. Leave me the fuck alone. Pick a fight with me and I will “deflate” your sorry ass.

    #101675
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Bosco I love you but if someone is getting the shits with you, you know you can just let that be a thing you know.”

    What, do you think I’m gonna waste my time answering drive-by hit’n’run insults forever? I love you too but I have my reasons. I am as adept at letting things go as most, I feel, which means ‘not very well’, but my ego is not the primary driver here. I am not protecting my sacred reputation or trying to dominate anyone.

    Consider it an experiment I often conduct to see if

    a) the chronic insulter finally gets that maybe they should give it up –seeing as how they always start it — before I give up on them and, as you say, let it go,

    b) how others in the group react to someone bullying someone and getting smacked back in return.

    My experience is that as many — or more — criticize the aggressive defender of his honor more than the aggressive assaulter of same.

    ‘Be nice. Behave. You’re making a scene.’ We’re taught compliance and restraint from the cradle by people taught it from the cradle ad infinitum, these days with many generations of modernly mediated national sociopolitical indoctrination in the mix.

    The guy most influential in liberating me philosophically and spiritually from the bankrupt vapor world we inhabit today, one of the quietest, gentlest people I’ve known, 6’4″ but only 137 pounds back then (his kneecaps were bigger than his thighs), a man who taught himself consummate classical guitar (not necessarily uber virtuoso but fully accomplished) , acceptably accomplished violin/fiddle, and could play fine jigs and reels on a bamboo flute, who was my first exposure to Lao Tzu and Alan Watts and Herman Hesse and Nietzche and the like (he went to an alt high school for troubled gifted types and got a decent education, amazingly, for the year or so he spent there before dropping out)… this dude was known, as a youngun, 5-10 years old, to refuse to take his coat off when adults would say, Why don’t you take your coat off? No. Take your coat off. No. Walter, take your coat off.

    He was still that way when I last saw him long too long ago, a man in his 20s.

    I have a horrible terror of being insincere. Insincerity starts with little white lies and leads to Emergency Executive Powers. I tell a few white lies here and there to make someone feel better about how they look, etc., but being insincere is SO hard for me.

    Veracity

    #101676
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @boschhorowitz said:

    Putting aside that you appear to have dismissed the bulk of your fellow specie members as retards, an attitude worthy of George Soros (think about it….), I’ll note that the etiology of this ‘retardation’ is not really known.

    No, I have commented on the westerners in humanity, not all of humanity and nowhere near a majority.

    So perhaps the problem with these “retards” is neither an abundance of emotion or paucity of logical cognition, but the natural consequence of being raised in environments ill suited to healthy human development.

    I would certainly consider that as a contribution, but it is so obvious that I didn’t bother.

    Feelings are hugely important parts of any logic which is why an AI a zillion times smarter than a man will still misread humanity in its predictions and suggested strategies.

    Sorry, your understanding of AI is not correct: AI is a form of statistical analysis, the analysis is an approximation (limited data) based on learning (limited interpretation) which attempts to convert the statistical analysis into an algorithm of sorts – all computers exclusively run on algorithms. When AI “misreads humanity”, as you call it, the most common cause is that it was never trained with the required data to provide a statistically valuable analysis, and as AI has no “common sense” (as there is no cognition involved) it is unable to work out a reasonable versus unreasonable response. The best way to address this is to use a conventional algorithm which limits the actions of the AI analysis. AI analysis, like lots of stats, is a form of mathematical modelling used to guide decision making: this decision making is not the same as humanity’s decision making.

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