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    Pablo Picasso The blue room 1901   • Infections in Vaccinated Overtake Those in Unvaccinated For the First Time (LDS) • British Ministers Decide
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 18 2021]

    #80055
    V. Arnold
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    It took Salk 7 years to get a real vaccine, which you still don’t have, and maybe never will. Nuff said. How did this crazed loose cannon become the most trusted voice, and what does that tell us about America?

    Well, there you go…(why the hell do you think I left?)…going, going, gone……………….

    #80056
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Where’s Germ?
    I miss his reams of good information regarding “THE” virus extant…

    #80057
    oxymoron
    Participant

    The leader of the United States of America has accused me of killing people.

    Clown World

    #80059

    Where’s Germ?

    Vacation.

    #80060
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Britain could see 200,000 cases a DAY and 20k hospital admissions in WEEKS, warn experts

    As England gears up for a full unlocking tomorrow, medical experts warn that infections and hospitalisation figures could reach all-time highs in the coming weeks.

    And Chris Whitty also warned earlier this weekend that England could be plunged back into lockdown within five weeks, with “scary” hospitalisations numbers doubling every three weeks.

    Professor Neil Ferguson told BBC’s Andrew Marr this morning: “100,000 cases a day is almost inevitable.

    “I mean, we could get to 2,000 hospitalisations a day, 200,000 cases a day, but it’s much less certain.

    “There, you are talking about major disruption of services and cancellation of elective surgery and the backlog in the NHS, getting longer and longer.”

    Yesterday, Covid cases rose by 70 per cent in a week as 54,674 new infections were reported.

    Deaths have increased by 41, bringing the total to 128,683.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15623092/britain-could-cases-hospital-soar-experts/

    Doesn’t it occur to any of these people that it may be the vaccines which are causing this problem?

    #80061
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Vacation.

    He takes them? Vacations?
    Boy, have to think about that one… 😉

    #80062
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    How did this crazed loose cannon become the most trusted voice, and what does that tell us about America?

    That’s probably only the case in the big cities of the northeast, and even then only in the PMC bubbles within them.

    #80063
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Can I make Fauci cry on nation T.V. about his total public failure? At last?

    Tony: Pretty sure people were uneducated and suspicious of outsiders in the ‘40s. Dumb-ss. So golly gee willikers, Tony, why don’t people trust, big multi-national corporations, actual health experts, and YOU, personally? I mean, it’s nearly inexplicable when YOU have killed 500,000 people with opioids alone, took the profit, looked the other way, and close Pharma lawsuits on killing 10k at a pop almost every year. …Where you take the money, look the other way, carry on when nobody goes to jail. And while a broken wrist will make your whole family homeless, WE paid 10% x 10% x 10% x 10% x 10% x 10% x 10% compounded since Obamacare was proposed, and STILL bailed out Pharma, Anthem, Humana, and United while living in a cardboard box. …But, I know, WE’RE the silly ones, thinking you’re not trustworthy and out to get us. Really, medicine being the top cause of death by orders of magnitude has nothing to do with our weird, unscientific, Kinko-fearing ways.

    “The only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated,”
    “ Game Postponed After 6 New York Yankees Test Positive”

    Wow, how long can they keep this up? A: I said that in 1990. And Free Speech IS death. Of his weirdo authoritarian religion. That’s Fauci-Science! Where nothing is published and there are no discussions.

    Unfortunately the Sheriffs aren’t much of the police force. If they believe it is a Civil Rights crime, they are required to arrest the City and State police.

    “This administration is not going to stop until we continue to get the word out here.”

    What word? Is there something going on?

    “The Biden administration is finding ways to provide anti-censorship tools” Anywhere but here.

    So according to the Biden administration, the REST of the world is free, and WE are a repressed, impoverished, authoritarian nightmare. #OppositeLand. That’s what #AntiLogos is, makes, and gets you. Predictable as rain.

    “ Does Japan Control The Trigger For US Nuclear War On China? (Ritter)”

    No. The U.S. and Anglos would betray any ally to a horrible death for the smallest reasons, but the calculation shifts substantially if Japan stays all in for Taiwan. …Was that a good idea to show the nuking of Japan now, you Han racists? I can’t IMAGINE what Japan has hidden in the box, military underground.

    “Doesn’t it occur?”

    Nope. Highest vaccine = highest cases, exactly as proven by 10 years of mRNA study. Our answer: “No it isn’t: you’re a dumb-face.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

    “Unaware of what year it was, Joe wandered the streets desperate for help. But the English language had deteriorated into a hybrid of hillbilly, valleygirl, inner-city slang and various grunts. Joe was able to understand them, but when he spoke in an ordinary voice he sounded pompous and faggy. “

    ” “I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time — when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness…

    The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance” -Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

    He is quote Ayn Rand, in” Atlas Shrugged,” 40 years his senior. And you know what i say, If you’re quoting Ayn Rand and proving her right in D.C. and Detroit, clearly you’ve done something terribly wrong.

    #80064
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Since quote work better than me speaking, Our Leaders:

    “”I’m getting worried about you. This edge you’ve taken. Displays like that aren’t helpful to us.”
    “[shrugs] I believe in protecting what we’ve created. I won’t apologize for that. “

    “Maybe it’s time to give up on the tests: We’re living the solution already. This is perfection. Why can’t you just embrace it?
    “You see what’s happening to people. You know how desperate this has become.”
    “It can be controlled. Contained.”
    “I think your forgetting that this was all meant to be temporary.”
    “You’ve always said that but why should it be?”
    “Because it’s wrong.” –Aeon Flux

    I think about that often sometimes: “It can still be contained, controlled.” Vs. “It’s all falling apart.”

    “A universally oppressive regime where I’m in charge is perfection. Why can’t you just accept it?”
    “Because it’s wrong.”

    “It was all meant to be temporary.” The Civil War powers, the Federal Reserve, the WWII war powers, the military secrecy act, leaving the gold standard, the ’01 interest rates, the Patriot Act, the GWoT, the ’08 Bailout, the end to free speech, all meant to be temporary. …Until having all that power was perfection. To the deciders. Then it’s “What’s the hurry? It’s only been 150 years…we need a little more time in lock down…”

    Newsflash to the Goodchilds: it CANNOT be contained. You have a nuclear lab breach spreading steadily, everywhere. It’s all falling apart — for YOU — and going back to Nature, it’s natural path. As obvious to everyone but Harvard.

    #80065
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @mister: “That’s probably only the case in the big cities of the northeast …”

    Now, now … I’m sure that’s the case in southern west coast big cities as well. Definitely Portland, Seattle. Maybe even some TX big cities, and Atlanta, and Chicago …

    Certainly we NE people can’t be the only religious fanatics. 🙂

    I wonder how some members of the gay community feel about this Fauci fanaticism. There were protests back during the AIDS epidemic and signs reading “Fauci Lied. People Died”. If I’m recalling that correctly?

    #80066
    oxymoron
    Participant

    what we are doing here is targeting the brain
    we’ve written comprehensively about big data as a force multiplier in neuroscience and neuroweaponology

    Some people have fascinating jobs learning how to force, control, attack and murder people using brain science and military. I love watching this cos it reminds me that heaps of dudes around the world just rock up for work and get busy on this stuff, have coffe breaks and talk sports and then go back to crazy-arse mad-scientist shit.

    #80067
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Here in Portland, very few masks, mostly the obese, elderly, and helplessly devout MSNBC “liberals”. Billboards telling us the vakz is safe.effective.free. Nobody talks about it, hardly. It’s so old, so boring, so 2020. Downtown restaurants are petitiioning city hall to let them continue using the sidewalks for outdoor dining after covid set the precedent.

    And everywhere, everywhere, the Hoovervilles grow… again, I say, the covid juggernaut is over. Just momentum at this point, a ship slowing to a stall despite desperate PR tugboats trying to get it off the sandbank and moving again.

    About the time they say the “epidemic” is “over”, the real epidemic will commence.

    Three decades before coronavirus, Anthony Fauci took heat from AIDS protesters

    Reading this, I seem to see Fauci doing major historical revision of the facts. Per norm.

    #80068
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    gg

    #80069
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Desperate search for survivors as western Europe reels from a ‘catastrophe of historic proportion’

    Ha! I win! Big Bad Weather is the next topic of disaster du jour! Someone get me a peacock headdress! I wanna fancy dance!

    WIth 8 billion homo saps crowding every acre of tolerably livable land, it doesn’t take much wild weather to make a wreck.

    #80070
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    bb

    #80071
    zerosum
    Participant

    The big lie

    hopeless (opioids) vs hope (vaccines)

    Vaccinated vs unvaccinated

    contagious vs vaccinated

    Free speech vs censored

    USA vs Cuba, Haiti, (+ everyone else)

    ———–
    If you vote for my pick/choice then its democracy. – USA
    If my pick/choice doesn’t win, then the elections were rigged and I’ll impose sanctions – USA
    ——

    #80072
    Oroboros
    Participant

    We had a discussion of terms of endearment like ‘elite’ for the psychopath class. Their nothing ‘elite’ about a class of criminals like them.

    So I thought the term Big Pharma needed an extreme makeover.

    So I was listening to a Gerald Celente rant, always entertaining when you want to see a profanity laced foaming at the mouth rant, and he calls Big Pharma simply “The Drug Lords”.

    I think “The Drug Lords” has a nice ring to it, accurate, descriptive, embraces their very soul essence.

    Just like “The War Lords” does for the Military Industrial Complex. It’s shorter and to the point.

    Wall St Bank could just be “The Money Changers”, already got a long history of use.

    And the political class, well aren’t they special, the best descriptive term for them is “The Necrophiliacs”

    Sweet, in a legal document or contract there is a section called “The Construction of Language” which defines all the terms used in the agreement.

    The Narrative we are stuck in currently is a meta-media Construction of Language.

    Control the meaning of words and terms: control the Narrative

    “The medium is the message because it is the medium that shapes and controls the scale and form of human association and action….”

    Maybe old Marshall McLuhan was on to something.

    #80073
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Let’s see if this works:

    <img src="<img src=”https://i.ibb.co/Rb7grhq/IMG-1038.jpg&#8221; alt=”IMG-1038″ border=”0″ />” alt=”bill” />

    It sorta does, it seems.

    #80075
    zerosum
    Participant

    3 BIG LIES AT ONCE
    “VACCINES
    SAFE, EFFECTIVE, FREE”

    #80076
    zerosum
    Participant

    SUCK IT UP!
    WE ARE LIVING IN THE BIG LIE

    #80077
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    That immunity the guv gave to Big Pharma for covid vakzine is likely to twist around their neck like a garotte.

    #80078
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @oros …
    The Drug Lords
    The War Lords
    The Money Changers
    The Necrophiliacs

    Love it!

    #80081
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @upstateNY

    Thanks, we must control the linguistic terrain in the War of Words!

    #80082
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @madam: sobering pic. Yes, plenty of revisionist history going on around Fauci’s role in HIV/AIDS. How it is that so many 80 year olds who are major players in global propaganda are still so spry and industriously working is … curious. Only the good die young, I guess. (shrugs shoulders)

    #80083
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    [This comment wouldn’t post earlier today, so I’m trying a third time, with no links.]

    A misleading article about breakthrough cases, from July 14:


    2% of COVID Deaths in Illinois This Year Have Been Fully Vaccinated Residents

    Illinois’ top doctor said Tuesday that breakthrough cases of COVID-19 in fully vaccinated residents are a “unicorn” as she again urged those who have not yet gotten vaccinated to do so.

    (NBC Chicago dot com)

    They are including the big increase in cases during January, when only 2% of the state’s population was fully vaccinated by the end of the month. What about the more relevant (but unpublicized) numbers for the most recent month?

    Digging through data at the Illinois Department of Public Health, with help from the Wayback Machine, it becomes clear that we are not in “unicorn” territory. The 2% jumps up to around 12% for the most recent month. It’s on its way to the levels already reached in Israel and the UK.

    Data and calculations:
    Covid deaths for the fully vaccinated in Illinois
    as of July 14, 151 deaths
    as of June 9, 106 deaths
    from June 9 – July 15, 151 – 106 = 45 deaths
    Total Covid deaths in Illinois from June 9 – July 15 = 390
    Percentage of Covid deaths, fully vaccinated = 45/390 = 12%

    #80084
    Noirette
    Participant

    UNLESS YOU HEAR IT FROM US IT IS NOT THE TRUTH

    quote from Jacinda in Vid. posted by Ilargi.

    Wow! Quel courage!

    Ardern is a Blairite (she worked for him in her ‘overseas’ experience.. see link), a third-wayer, i.e. a ‘socialist’ / ‘democrat’ co-opted, and bedazzled to be so, to support Mega-Corp Power, be it military, medical, media, etc., continuing wars under RTP and ‘humanitarian’ principles, plus the covert oppression, or in other terms, strict and cruel management of the working class, deplorables and the like. (Some exceptions can be made for ‘at home’.. because otherwise ppl might rebel..)

    I hadn’t seen a pic of her for a long time. Her face shows close to alarming anorexia, she should just quit, she is out of her depth.

    ————-

    quote:

    In 2005 Ardern embarked on an “overseas experience,” an extended—usually working—trip to Britain, which is a traditional rite of passage for the children of New Zealand’s middle and upper class. Instead of labouring in a London pub or warehouse and then touring the Continent, however, Ardern worked for two and a half years in the cabinet office of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, serving as an associate director for Better Regulation Executive with the primary responsibility of improving the ways in which local authorities interact with small businesses. In 2007 she was elected president of the International Union of Socialist Youth (IUSY), a position that took her to destinations such as Algeria, China, India, Israel, Jordan, and Lebanon.

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jacinda-Ardern

    #80085
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @madam: “That immunity the guv gave to Big Pharma for covid vakzine is likely to twist around their neck like a garotte.”

    I hope you’re correct on this. If you are, I’ll start collecting peacock feathers whenever I see them and personally make you a headdress. 😉

    #80086
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “..How it is that so many 80 year olds who are major players in global propaganda are still so spry and industriously working is …”

    They drink adrenochrome smoothies.

    #80087
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    The value Doc Robinson brings to TAE conversations through analysis of statistics and medical studies cannot be overstated. Once again, thank you. Your time investment and ability to shed light is positively stellar.

    #80088
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @oros: I had to look up adrenochrome. Let’s hope not. 🙁

    But I’m getting a bit long in the tooth now, and I can tell ya for sure that my stamina ain’t what it used to be. Wondering how these even-older-than-me oldies are pulling it off. A very small percentage of 80 year olds still going strong? Sure. But there are A LOT of them still pulling the strings. It isn’t natural at all. It most surely isn’t.

    #80089
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “I hope you’re correct on this. If you are, I’ll start collecting peacock feathers whenever I see them and personally make you a headdress. 😉”

    It won’t necessarily be pleasant. That level of popular opposition tends to go Jacobin. PArtly why I see that immunity collapsing is because everything else will too. If Fauci escapes assassination, it will probably be because he runs off to wherever Jeffrey Epstgein is hiding. (Oh, they may have killed him in that NYC jail, but I think it’s just as likely that they faked it and he’s in hiding and hates it and won’t escape mortal consequences.

    Also, I second what you said about Doc R.

    ” Wondering how these even-older-than-me oldies are pulling it off. ”

    They don’t do anything they don’t want to; most things are done for them; and they keep themselves above the grave by spending enough health care money on themselves to cover health care costs for a town of 20,000.

    They pull strings. Strings fray, get cut, sometimes tangle about you like a puppy on a leash. They are not the future. We are.

    So I googled ‘mating dance’ to find a funny response to your kind feather offer. First thing youtube shows me is:

    Peacock Spider Mating Dance

    Sometimes google likes to make sure I know that it’s watching. On the rare occasions when our old bones allow the ex-Mrs. Sherburn and I to enjoy erotic activities, I like to leave the cellphone next to us so the boys at NSA can get their kicks listening in. Poor dears. Talk about a suckass job. Being a minion is sucker’s work.

    #80090
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Oh. Regarding garottes and Big Pharma legal immunity: the billboard is signed by the Oregon government. They will find it difficult to grant themselves immunity from the people they work for, Oregonians. Politicans have addresses. Lynching has always been a popular pastime in the US of A.

    #80091
    madamski cafone
    Participant
    #80092
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Fact check: Arizona audit chief baselessly raises suspicion about 74,000 ballots

    SHared for comparison to the Old Days, when jopurnalism was at least semi-responsible. Back then, you would read headlines like Arizona audit chief raises suspicion about 74,000 ballots

    While the official explanation for why it’s deemed baseless seems to hold water, the headline is crap.

    Me, I suspect this is a red herring. Note this line from thre article: “Logan made clear that this wasn’t necessarily a case of fraud, saying it could be a “clerical issue.” So he didn’t make a baseless assertion. He was clam and reasonable about it. ANd that cannot be tolerated. He must be tarred dark and loony.

    #80095
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Ugly and Contradictory

    a: “The book’s title, and thus its focus, is drawn from an internal posting written by one of Facebook’s longest-tenured executives, Andrew Bosworth, which he called “The Ugly.” In the 2016 memo, which he says he wrote to provoke debate, he explained that Facebook cares more about adding users than anything else. “The ugly truth is that we believe in connecting people so deeply that anything that allows us to connect more people more often is de facto good,” he wrote. “That can be bad if they make it negative. Maybe it costs a life by exposing someone to bullies. Maybe someone dies in a terrorist attack coordinated on our tools. And still we connect people.”

    b: “Of course, Facebook yields enormous power as their banning of President Trump from their platform attests to.”

    And still we connect people… except the former POTUS, who is not a person, apparently.

    #80096
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Losing the Narrative

    “Macron’s popularity dips by 13% among young people after France introduces health passes & mandatory vaccination”

    #80097
    morongobill
    Participant

    A refreshing interview with a star player.

    #80098
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Transhumanist (Subhumanist) agenda also has a very large component of ‘life span extension’ i.e. semi-immorality thru the merger with the digital cloud.

    Classic Fascism is the merger of the State and the Corporation

    Transhumanist (Subhumanist) is the merger of Corporeal with the Incorporeal

    #80100
    Bill7
    Participant

    Quite an interesting comments NC- a sample:

    HotFlash
    July 17, 2021 at 12:55 pm

    Considering its safety record, I would treat it like masking — can’t hurt, might help, so why not? Odd, you know, that the precautionary principle is being stringently applied to a well-known, quite safe, and dirt cheap (as low as 11 cents per dose when purchased in bulk, as by governments) treatment. That’s cheaper than a cheap mask. Is it effective? I’d sure like to try it, but physicians in Canada are afraid to prescribe it and apparently it’s on a 4-month backorder anyway.

    Meanwhile we are all supposed to take this vaccine that is not only a new product but a new technology, has not been tested over any long term, and doesn’t seem to be working all that well. I do ‘trust the science’, but I am seeing precious little of it from our so-called authorities.
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    jo6pac
    July 17, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    It’s safe I’ve used it. My Dr. Calif refused to write up perscrition for me so I bought on line.
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    Lambert Strether
    July 18, 2021 at 6:55 am

    Readers, please let’s avoid testimonials, or anything that suggests this site, or anyone on it, is in the business of offering diagnoses.

    Let us also avoid advocating the use of veterinary versions of any drug.

    Thank you!
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    ambrit
    July 18, 2021 at 9:27 am

    Yes, let us not do that. Instead, let us who cannot get the human purposed version of the drug, for whatever reason, just crawl off somewhere and joyfully invoke Neo-liberal rule #2.
    Now, if you had admonished us to protect the site from ‘official’ obloquy by not engaging in “armchair” analysis, fair enough. We do get that this subject has been weaponized and is now not safe for full frontal exposure.
    We have “skin in this game.”
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    lambert strether
    July 18, 2021 at 9:42 am

    NC is not the only site in the world, champ. Do consider other sites where testimonials are central to mission.
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    ambrit
    July 18, 2021 at 10:02 am

    So, it’s “bugger off” then.
    I know when I am in an untenable position. I am, after all a guest here.
    Stay safe.
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