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    Edward Hopper Cape Cod morning 1950   • Data From India Continues To Blow Up The ‘Delta’ Fear Narrative (Blaze) • Here It Comes (Denninger) • ‘Pi
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 23 2021]

    Mister Roboto

    Alex Berenson’s claim about hospitalizations and deaths in the UK soaring are at odds with what I saw on the graphs furnished by Google. But perhaps he has a more up-to-date source of information, so I’ll continue to look at those as time goes on.

    Mister Roboto

    And since V. Arnold apparently isn’t up yet, I’ll just say that the color-contrasts in the painting really are strikingly beautiful. 🙂

    V. Arnold

    Edward Hopper Cape Cod morning 1950

    Ah, another Hopper…wonderful; had many mornings like that…

    On another note: from yesterdays debt rattle by Ilargi;
    No-one’s getting booted or blocked. While quite a few perhaps could blab a bit less.

    The response was predictable; passive aggresive, blah, blah, blah…
    Unfortunate given our host offers uncensored commenting for all posters…
    A few, abuse that privilage with the majority of comments on any given post; discouraging many of us from saying anything further…
    This is Ilargi’s home, so-to-speak, and not respecting that is abuse; pure and simple…
    Given most of us are adults (?) I don’t think discretion is a step too far…
    Stay classy ya’ll…

    V. Arnold

    I would much apprciate removing the whole woman in red schtick…



    Here It Comes (Denninger)

    Karl goes over some of the same ground as Dr David Martin regarding the Covid ‘discovery’ timeline.

    Hmmm, kinda problematic, wouldn’t you say?

    Finally the brilliant analytic minds of Denninger and Martin overlap.

    The Covid tale is a yard of lies and knots, Gordian Knots.

    It needs to be picked apart at a deep forensic level that most commentator can’t muster.

    Gordian Knot




    The VAERS system has been ‘captured’ along with pretty much everything else regarding Sars-CoV-2.

    It’s telling to watch one highly qualified, impeccably credentialed physician after another grapple with the insane amount of utter outright corruption and lies surrounding the Plandemic.

    These are highly trained, logical individuals who seem at wits end to comprehend how such a state of affairs is even possible.

    It like witnessing the ritual dismemberment of the social Trust Horizon in the Roman Colosseum and looking up to see the Emperor’s thumb turning down.


    Mr. House
    absolute galore

    I don’t have a huge problem with people “overposting.” I just scroll on by. Especially a post that consists of just a link, with a cute description that does not tell me what I’m going to. I will maybe do one of those now and then just for kicks, but otherwise, can’t be bothered. No harm no foul. (GIFs on the other hand, please, stop. MySpace anyone?)

    I get why Taibbi needs to charge for his journalism, certainly worth being paid for. But linking to partial articles is a little frustrating. Interesting, he is saying the student loans not being eligible for bankruptcy is a fallacy (though does not get into why in the intro only part outside the paywall). Funny because Chris Martenson in his video just yesterday made a big point of the unforgivable student loans. Oops.

    Here’s a few headlines from the NYT front page, in case anyone is interested in how the 68% are viewing things:

    Forget Mask Mandates. Vaccines Are the Only Answer for Fighting Covid-19.

    Why Vaccinated People Are Getting ‘Breakthrough’ Infections
    The vaccines are effective, but they are not a golden shield, resulting in some vaccinated people getting infected, mostly with mild or asymptomatic cases.
    A health care worker registered Mia Fontes, 15, for her second dose of the Covid-19 vaccine in New York City.

    They Live in a Virus Hot Spot but Won’t Be Vaccinated

    Staten Island’s recent uptick in coronavirus cases foretold a larger increase across New York City.

    The Morning Newsletter: Vaccine Mandates Are Divisive but Effective

    What Scientists Know About the Delta Variant

    Covid Updates: Travel in Australia-New Zealand Bubble Is Suspended

    And we were worried how the media would survive without Trump….Right from TDS to CDS!

    absolute galore

    Hopefully this time will work, but maybe too much pasting and the software does not allow it. I will try posting in sections, I think it is important.
    Anyway this is from a NYT newsletter I receive. A masterpiece of propaganda. I like the way they try to put it in the context of vaccines historically, as if the mRNA “vaccines” were in any way comparable.
    Good morning. Vaccine mandates are controversial. They’re also an effective way to save lives.
    How to save lives
    Vaccine mandates are controversial. They’re also effective.
    Before Houston Methodist became one of the first hospital systems in the U.S. to mandate Covid-19 vaccines, about 85 percent of its employees were vaccinated. After the mandate, the share rose to about 98 percent, with the remaining 2 percent receiving exemptions for medical or religious reasons, Bloomberg’s Carey Goldberg reported. Only about 0.6 percent of employees quit or were fired.
    Schools — including Indiana University and many private colleges — that require students and workers to get vaccinated have reported extremely high uptake.
    A recent Kaiser Family Foundation survey of Americans who had been opposed to getting vaccinated and later changed their minds found that mandates — or restrictions on the unvaccinated — were one common reason. One 51-year-old man told Kaiser that he began to feel as if he had “limited options without it.”
    The French government will soon require that people show proof of vaccination or a recent negative test to eat at a restaurant, attend a movie or participate in many other activities. After President Emmanuel Macron announced the policy last week, the number of vaccine appointments surged. Italy announced a similar policy yesterday, The Times’s Marc Santora explains.

    absolute galore

    It’s true that these mandates often generate intense criticism. In France, more than 100,000 people marched to protest Macron’s policy. In the U.S., critics sued, unsuccessfully so far, to stop Indiana University’s mandate. Some Republican politicians have also tried to stop mandates, including Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida and Gov. Mike DeWine of Ohio.
    The mandates are also not 100 percent effective. Some people will receive exemptions, as was the case at Houston Methodist. A small number may forge vaccine records. And some vaccinated people will still contract mild versions of Covid, through so-called breakthrough infections.
    But even with the opposition and the exceptions, mandates can play a major role in reducing the spread of Covid and saving lives. That’s especially true now that the Delta variant is fueling a rise in cases. “The takeaway message remains, if you’re vaccinated, you are protected,” Dr. Céline Gounder, an infectious disease specialist, told our colleague Apoorva Mandavilli. “You are not going to end up with severe disease, hospitalization or death.”
    A ‘staggering’ success
    Covid is a new disease, and the debates over Covid policy can seem new, as well. But they’re often not wholly new. They instead echo longstanding debates. Vaccine mandates fall into this category.
    Throughout history, societies have struggled with when and how to require vaccines. Opponents of mandates have argued that individuals should be allowed to make their own health decisions — and bear the consequences: What, they ask, is more personal than deciding whether to inject a medicine into one’s body? Supporters of mandates have replied that society has a duty to protect its citizens, including those who cannot be inoculated (like young children and some immunocompromised people, in the case of Covid) and are therefore put at risk by people who voluntarily refuse vaccines.

    absolute galore

    For these reasons, vaccine mandates cause intense disputes. But when supporters win the argument, public health has often benefited. Guy Nicolette, an administrator at the University of California, Berkeley, pointed out to The Washington Post that colleges have long required other vaccines, like the one for measles. “It’s staggering how well a mandate works on a college campus,” he said.
    Dr. Aaron Carroll, Indiana University’s chief health officer, has noted that the country’s victories over many diseases — including smallpox, polio, mumps, rubella and diphtheria — have depended on vaccine mandates by states or local governments. “That’s how the country achieves real herd immunity,” Carroll wrote in The Times. (In the U.S., a national mandate may be unconstitutional.)
    When states and school districts have opted not to require vaccines, a disease can often spread needlessly, Carroll explained. That has been the case with human papillomavirus, a sexually transmitted disease known as HPV that can cause cancer. It’s also been the case with influenza, which kills about 35,000 Americans in a typical flu season.
    Covid now seems certain to join influenza and HPV as diseases that American society chooses to accept. But it is a choice. Companies, schools and communities that decide to enact vaccine mandates will almost certainly save American lives by doing so.
    Mark Barnes, a former health official in New York City, told Bloomberg that he expected the number of these mandates to grow in coming months. “We’re going to see more vaccine mandates by large organizations of all kinds,” he predicted.


    DImitri’s paper describes where Jews were no longer allowed to go as per July 8, 1942. Same difference. We need major demonstrations.

    Dr. D

    Empty shelves, UK. Hey, is that just like Venezuela and Argentina, when a broke, corrupt government starts printing money and nobody works? Ah, IF ONLY we had some examples of this, of Socialism, in history, maybe we would know. Oh well. We probably need more government, more helping, and more UBI.

    Police are jumping the lines and joining the protesters in France. That’s the tipping point for the end of Macron and the end of the 5th Republic, ending the same way as all the others since 1789: death, prison, repression, inflation, despair. But like us, national character expressing over and over.

    Speaking of a failing UK, pointlessly flexing its muscles like Argentina, they’re deploying to hold some islands they can’t hold and don’t own, this time in the Pacific. against China. Yeah, those are the largest, most expensive sitting ducks ever created.

    I think their, Mattis’, desire to force CRT and high heels for Navy Seals, while avoiding training in, you know, not running into things on the open seas, is a way to bait China into believing we’re weak and stupid while we (the Anglos) still have some strength left. This is related to giving China out whole Sandida labs, the stealth bomber blueprints, the Secretary of State’s whole email server, and I can’t even remember all the others.

    So here we are again, trying to get them to move early, not slow in their own time. Like back when we tried to force them to revalue their currency (certain death) and they countered the Fannie/Freddy with “Twist” rather than causing US certain death. …That we could blame on them and get belligerent, etc. I guess, being fools, they think everybody else in nations are fools too. China say: “Why hurry? You’re dying a thousand deaths. Isn’t that good enough?”

    “42 People Quarantined At San Antonio Assisted Living Facility (Ksat)”

    Yes, but is anybody “Sick”? As in, if we didn’t have scare tests, would they just think it’s the flu? Like Delta, nobody tracks it, nobody knows. Health is bad for business, medical and media alike. As you see in NJ – and so probably in Scotland – a huge # “died with vaccine” died of cancer or kidney failure. Yes CV put them over the edge, but what, 90 days earlier? When everyone’s lying, these numbers are hard.

    In student loans, so many sides. First, as I always say, it’s ILLEGAL. That is, unconstitutional to prevent discharge in bankruptcy. The Clintons didn’t care and I guess nobody else does either.

    Second, you knew this, what are you doing? Did you somehow not notice every parent, adult, and official lies to you with every breath?

    Third, this is BANK WELFARE, which is why the Clintons put it in, as well as killing Glass-Steagal. What do you have if you collect money but have no risk whatsoever? That’s right, a handout, free money. FROM the poorest, TO the richest. Direct transfer from taxpayers to corporations in a complete merger. Four, if failing, so will the entire United States, as most of our debt is now student.

    Four, really? As this article points out, they have no game, no case, and the rules are in favor of the debtor if you pay $500 bucks and ask any (bankruptcy) lawyer, pay $100 bucks and read some books. Since money is free, zero banks DGAF, and will give loans for cars, houses, cards, etc, a day after bankruptcy. The house is rigged IN YOUR FAVOR. If you know you can sneak around the back of the table and see the dealer’s crooked hand every day. The people demand to be victims, REFUSE TO FIGHT. Now I know if a fraction did this, they’d close the loopholes, but if 90% of the people did something, they’d vote out the illegal laws in the first place. If it’s only you and five friends, there are a ton of gray exploits.

    I understand, but when everyone on the road is a con man or a thief, is conning the con man and robbing the thief really unethical? If you were a pickpocket and pickpocketed back to the mark, who are you stealing from? Don’t make your world like this and you won’t need to find out. Until then, the banks have provided sheets of exploits for anyone who looks.

    “I got it wrong. Beginning in the 2010s, judges all over the U.S. began handing down decisions in cases like Gray’s that revealed lenders had essentially tricked the public into not asking basic questions, like: What is a “student loan”? …The phrase “Just asking questions” today often carries a negative connotation.” –Taibbi

    Do as you’re told.

    Taibbi’s Article list:
    “The American Press is Destroying Itself.”
    “It’s Official: Russiagate is this Generation’s WMD” / “List of Official Russia Claims that Turned out to Be Bogus”
    “The Left Is Now the Right” / “Democrats Have Abandoned Civil Liberties” / “Which is the Real ‘Working Class’ Party Now?”
    “The Sovietization of the American Press”
    “Rachel Maddow is Bill O’Rielly”
    “On White Fragility, thoughts on the smash hit.”
    “DiAngelo writes like a person who was put in timeout as a child for speaking clearly.”

    “rejection of King’s “dream” of racial harmony — not even as a description of the obviously flawed present, but as the aspirational goal of a better future — has become a central tenet of this brand.”

    “For DiAngelo to suggest history should re-cast Robinson as “the first black man whites allowed to play major league baseball” is grotesque and profoundly belittling.”

    “It takes a special kind of ignorant for an author to choose an example that illustrates the mathematical opposite of one’s intended point, but this isn’t uncommon in White Fragility, which may be the dumbest book ever written. It makes The Art of the Deal read like Anna Karenina.” Etc.

    He sounds like the Docktor.


    Yes, these are tough times and we may get freaked out or annoyed but I agree with V – ‘stay classy’, well at least mostly or where possible.
    Me. I took a Valium for the first time in 2 years an hour ago. Highly unusual for this nature boy but I’m open to anything if the need arises.

    Watched V for Vendetta again – loved it. The state sanctioned vaccine injection death sentences was a nice touch.

    Mr. House

    This is how they will make a twice a year shot permanent for everyone. Each year a new variant will arise which the last shot doesn’t stop. They’re starting to lay the foundation now.

    Mr. House

    But if the shot only produces the spike protein then what does it matter which “version” of it you have?


    During a speech to the Commons, Zahawi said sporting and business events, churches, music venues and festivals would also be subject to the rules, which are expected to come into force at the end of September. “We reserve the right to mandate its use in the future,” he said.

    You reserve the right?!? Really? Well I reserve the right to stockpile piano wire and maintain easy access to lampposts. Just in case. For future use, you understand….

    The tree of liberty is very thirsty.

    Polder Dweller

    I just watched this:

    “EXCLUSIVE! Dr. David Martin Just Ended COVID, Fauci, DOJ, Politicians in ONE INTERVIEW”

    and David Martin comes across as genuine and convincing, saying very serious things about Fauci (in particular) and others, which would be serious grounds for slander (much more serious than what Rand Paul recently said in congress). He says he has sent his evidence to the DoJ and other bodies for investigation and gets nowhere. What am I missing here? Is this some kind of extremely elaborate hoax, because it doesn’t seem like it. How come there is


    no moratorium on giving the vaccines, not in the US and not in other countries around the world?


    Things that make you go “hmmm”. Abridged version: woman in eastern Ontario goes to hospital with COVID like symptoms. Gets diagnosed with previously rare tick-borne illness. Her doctor said he had only seen one such case previously in his career but now sees one per week. Cases have quadrupled across the border since last year.
    I get ticks ALL THE TIME as do others around here who spend time outdoors. I have read pretty widely on Lyme and long-haul Lyme is shockingly like long-haul COVID. Other interesting note: people use ivermectin for Lyme. I just find this all very surprising.
    Link to story about woman:

    Mr. House

    Hasn’t it been speculated that Lyme was created in a lab?

    Mr. House

    “You walk into this room at your own risk, because it leads to the future, not a future that will be but one that might be. This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace. This is Mr. Romney Wordsworth, in his last forty-eight hours on Earth. He’s a citizen of the State but will soon have to be eliminated, because he is built out of flesh and because he has a mind. Mr. Romney Wordsworth, who will draw his last breaths in the Twilight Zone – The Obsolete Man”


    @sumac: “I have read pretty widely on Lyme and long-haul Lyme is shockingly like long-haul COVID.”

    Yes, it is. (first-hand experience)

    Dr. D

    Kunstler interview, Doctor Martin says in effect: “Jan 2, days after COVID was supposed to have released, China has paperwork they had 40 positive, confirmed viral PCR tests. PCR is a DNA test, and the DNA was not yet sequenced, regardless of the test. So how did they a) already have an on-the-shelf test for a virus that doesn’t exist?” Or Docktor asks b) they didn’t and made it up to create a fear-story from thin air.

    He says almost all of this CV sequence was around since 2002, via Chapel Hill / Fauci (see long patent list) and variants had actually been released into the wild already before – YEARS before. –See sewage tests and Ft. Deitrick.

    KunstlerCast 347 — Chatting with David E. Martin About Covid-19, Vaccinations, and Other Mass Casualty Events

    There’s a lot more in there, you can shingle a barn with the smoking guns.

    those darned kids

    well, that’s another one..

    i teach music. i’ve had one cancellation because of covid (notice how it’s named something every culture can pronounce. hotel, taxi, covid..), and now have had my tenth cancellation because of vaccines (two of whom were hospitalized).

    most wouldn’t see it that way (i don’t mention anything); i guess they’re just coincidences.

    my papá (91 – i thanked him for his genetic makeup on his last birthday) ended up in the hospital for 10 days with pneumonia shortly after his second injection of pfizer brew. i pleaded with him before hand to not do it, but alas, the voices are many. he now has mobility problems which family members attribute to his hospital stay. i haven’t mentioned the shots since before he had them as, frankly, i don’t want to argue or frighten.

    my son’s best friend, 20, an excellent guitarist, spent the night in hospital with back, leg and shoulder pain. i know neither the name of the brewmaker, nor if it was the first or second injection.

    can’t all the people (not the t.v. faces, real people) clamouring for ¡¡¡MANDATORY!!! see all the pain?

    can’t they see?

    Mister Roboto

    can’t all the people (not the t.v. faces, real people) clamouring for ¡¡¡MANDATORY!!! see all the pain?

    Those people are religious fanatics now. Religious fanatics don’t see things they’re “not supposed to” see, even if it’s right in front of their smug faces.


    Denninger touched on something that I am curious about — I’ve seen hints about getting jabbed after naturally acquired immunity may/does change the naturally occurring immunity so that it is less robust. The Denninger article above references an unnamed study.
    Anyone know the study being referenced?
    Or, how OAS is a factor in this?
    (OAS is how pre-existing immunity calls up inefficient antibodies to current [mutated] virus…so how is a Covid jab causing OAS in naturally immune folks…is it undoing OAS and creating its own flavor of OAS?)
    And, if OAS is a thing, doesn’t that mean that boosters may be ineffective?


    The swiss researcher that isolated the lyme pathgen said it was an accidental lab leak, from Plum Island NY, just off shore of Lyme Ct.
    Bitten: The Secret History of Lyme Disease and Biological Weapons
    “A riveting thriller reminiscent of The Hot Zone, this true story dives into the mystery surrounding one of the most controversial and misdiagnosed conditions of our time-Lyme disease-and of Willy Burgdorfer, the man who discovered the microbe behind it, revealing his secret role in developing bug-borne biological weapons, and raising terrifying questions about the genesis of the epidemic of tick-borne diseases affecting millions of Americans today.”

    those darned kids


    those darned kids

    hmmm… i guess my link was bad. i tried twice..

    Those people are religious fanatics now.

    i had linked to an image search for fully vaccinated +mask. you can get t-shirts, too.

    those, of course, are the vestments.

    those darned kids

    shoot, my son has survived both corona AND lyme. covid was super easy for him; lyme another story.

    he should seek reparations.

    absolute galore

    The NFL rule is the same thing they are doing with businesses like bars and restaurants–if a case is reported, they must shut down.
    But as per the NYT own headline today about breakthrough cases, does that mean if there are cases not started by an unvaxxed player, no forfeit is required? Science me that, Batman.

    (Please consider all my posts this morning as one looong one and do

    Mr. House
    absolute galore

    Jim Kunstler quotes a medical source this morning:
    …the rate of reporting [adverse reactions] to the VAERS system in the US and Europe is very poor: somewhere between 1 and ten percent of actual events being reported. This obviously means that the actual death rate is likely much higher. So, I would not be surprised if the real number of ‘vax’ induced deaths in the US is in the range of 100,000 or more, much more.

    We throw around #s like that on TAE as well. But. While I have heard 2nd or 3rd hand believable reports of people dying of Covid, I have not heard a single such report of serious side effects (that is, not just temporary pain or feeling crappy for a day or two) never mind deaths related to the vaccines. Especially if these deaths were in people younger than 65 and/or with no comorbidities, I would think even the lapdog media would be hard-pressed to keep these expirations out of the news cycles.

    An average of about 8,000 people die every day in the U.S. Are we doing the same thing we accuse the “other side”of doing with Covid deaths? Such as listing a car accident victim as death by vaccine if they were on the way home from the shot? I’m exaggerating a bit, but I am skeptical of the death claims. Again, the slightest tendency to make overblown claims will only hurt the very real concerns about these vaccines, so I’m curious what others think.


    Doctors can no longer ignore the fact that they took the Hippocratic Oath. “First, do no harm.”

    Mr. House

    ” I have heard 2nd or 3rd hand believable reports of people dying of Covid”

    Same here, i know no one who’s died of covid and only one family member who was “diagnosed” with covid. I know no one who has had adverse reactions to the vaccine. That is why i stick to the financial answer, this is to cover up the collapse of the system we’ve all been waiting for since 2008. Klaus Schwabbs great reset is the tell. If you and i and some other Joe schmoes have figured out this isn’t going to last, do you think the ruthless murdering people that get to the top are not aware?

    Say in your town you saw people practicing to rob a bank, they even tell you that is what they’re practicing to do, and about two months later the bank gets robbed. Who would be the first people you question with regards to robbing the bank? Now what if those people were the towns elder council? See the problem we have?


    The UK and the other 5 eyes are now committing ritual Seppuku.

    The US has 50 states with 50 different approaches;

    Texas vs Californicate

    So the Blue States will fall into lockstep with the 5 Eyes, basically collapse of critical infrastructure, food water the grid and ‘citizens’ will die hundled into their cellars eating the last of the tinned beans.

    The Red states will carry on.

    The UK is making all ‘subjects’ put an app on their phone that tracks their positions 24/7. If someone tests ‘positive’ with the 90% faulty bogus PCR ‘test’ (cough-gag-cough), the central server ‘Pings” the phone of anyone who physically crossed their path within x number of hours and tells them to ‘self isolate’.

    This is Insane.

    About 20% of the critical workforce, including the food sector, have already been ‘Pinged” and are not coming to work. Shelves are bare in [place already and no petrol deliveried to stations. Sweet!

    It won’t take long to collapse the food chain with the Ping-demic

    Do the math, the people’s paths crossing thing will exponentially increase as a Cascade Effect and soon the entire UK population will be self isolating cause they ‘crossed a black cat’s path’.

    Mission Accomplished!

    City-State Death.

    Looks like Synthetic Superstition not Science to moi.

    Naomi Klein begged and warned her UK friends not to Brexit without a written Constitution enshrining basic human rights into the core of the nation’s legal structure.


    Totalitarian Dystopia on Big Pharma steroids.

    Roid Rage



    Not sure I get the premise. The numbers I use all come from VAERS and its EU and UK equivalents. Which officially add up to some 40,000 deaths so far. These systems are known -not just rumored- to underreport events by 90% to 99%, for obvious reasons: they require filling out a lot of “paper” work. Why you think the media would latch on to this when they ignore everything else that is negative for the vaccine narrative I don’t understand either.

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