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    Paul Gauguin We hail thee Mary 1891   • “Asymptomatic Covid Spread” Used To Shut Down The Economy Was A Lie (TSN) • New Research Suggests Ivermec
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 5 2021]

    #78917
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Hi Ilargi; how are YOU?
    It would be really nice if every so often you could update us as much as you deem correct/enough…
    You are one hell of a long distance runner………………………………………………………….
    Keep it coming, but, take care of yourself first…the rest later……………..
    🙂

    #78918
    oxymoron
    Participant

    V. Arnold – good question. I hope Ilargi you are doing well…

    #78919
    Germ
    Participant

    Indonesia to ramp up production of Ivermectin to 14 million 12mg pills by the end of next month to combat Covid-19.

    https://en.tempo.co/read/1478962/covid-19-indofarma-to-produce-ivermectin-in-july

    #78920
    Germ
    Participant

    Two scientists who were fired and forcibly escorted from Winnipeg P4 laboratory are now under investigation for illegal transfers of virus & vaccine materials to Chinese authorities without approval from the Canadian government.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-scientists-fired-from-winnipeg-lab-under-rcmp-investigation-for/

    #78921
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Asymptomatic spread: I think it certainly exists with Covid-19, otherwise it would have been as easy to contain as its predecessor coronaviruses. However, it clearly turned out to be not the major driver of infectiousness that Chris Martenson seemed to believe that it would be in the early months of 2020.

    Go, Indonesia, crank out that Ivermectin!

    I suppose Emperor Faucitine wants the vaccinated to quadruple mask now.

    #78924
    Germ
    Participant

    “According to the Times of Israel, the young man who distributed the virus at the party was vaccinated. He, in turn, had been infected by a relative who had also been vaccinated, and that relative had been infected by a person who had also been vaccinated and who was recently in London.”

    https://www.morgenpost.de/vermischtes/article232700219/corona-israel-impfung-delta-party-ansteckung.html

    As we at TAE have known all along – the vaccines afford very little benefit.
    It’s all about the Absolute Risk Reduction, not the Relative RR.

    #78925

    Netherlands, total ICU admissions

    2013: 82.161
    2014: 86.964
    2015: 85.824
    2016: 85.754
    2017: 80.687
    2018: 77.189
    2019: 73.979
    2020: 68.936

    Source: Stichting-NICE

    #78926

    Thanks VA, oxy.

    I’m fine. Still in repair from the lockdown (bad for claustrophobia) and just had a week-long 100+º heatwave here. It’s been a very strange year so far, and it’s already half over. Wonder what the rest will be like, for the unvaccinated. World getting smaller all the time? Healthy hesitancy here in Athens, that’s good, but also ever more threatening language from the government. Time for IVM et al to go mainstream.

    #78931

    I like this tweet from @Alec_Zeck:

    The “genomic sequencing” of “SARS-CoV-2”.: They weren’t able to get a full RNA sequence, so they extracted tons of RNA fragments (57.5 million) from someone’s unfiltered snot, and arranged it in a computer program to match previous coronavirus templates. That’s it.

    #78933
    zerosum
    Participant

    Virus Options

    go the extra mile – Get a supply of Ivermectin
    go the extra mile – wear a mask
    go the extra mile – keep your distance
    go the extra mile – keep track of the infection rate from 04 July

    —-
    Oil Options

    Want more money – Increase the price above $75 a barrel
    Want more money – Increase the production

    —–

    End of month Options

    Pay – rent/mortgage
    pay – student loans
    pay – car loan
    pay – med
    pay – credit cards
    PAY – ME

    ———–
    Leisure Options

    none
    read TAE
    watch TV
    play games
    sleep
    ————

    #78934
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “I might want to go the extra mile to be cautious enough to make sure that I get the extra added level of protection”

    He can still say this after releasing his own emails that said he’s medically certain masks don’t work.

    Talk about low-information voters!

    “HSBC in Big Trouble in its Biggest Market, China (WS) “

    Nah, all the Anglo banks are irrelevant now. The largest banks are in China. Just like the irrelevant, self-important Anglos themselves.

    “Two scientists who were fired and forcibly escorted from Winnipeg P4 laboratory”

    Nope. Never happened. Didn’t happen here! Didn’t come from a lab, and if it did it was in China. Yup yup yup. Just ask us! We’re the once who told you a bat kissed a pangolin. While not giggling hysterically. Don’t blow it now Winnepeg, we’ve got a $10T war going. 6B people gotta die.

    “Asymptomatic spread”

    Here’s one of those: Do we do fake medicine or do we tell the truth? moments. ALL diseases – essentially – do not have asymptomatic spread. Although a bioweapon may be an exception, this one wasn’t. However, ALL diseases CAN spread asymptomatically. What? How? In those super-rare cases, to a super-vulnerable person, there are exception conditions that allow asymptomatic spread. Is it MUCH? No, like way under 99.9%. Is it RELEVANT? Well it depends if it’s facial Ebola or not. Which we were worried about at first, but it wasn’t. See the problem? No simple answer. Does it? Technically yes, practically no. But we live in a practical world, not a theoretical one. “Except when there’s money or sex involved” –Frail Grasp of the Big Picture, The Eagles.

    Then: “$cience!™”, not science.

    Also in that: “Even if one of them was to read a newspaper cover to cover / that ain’t what’s going on – journalism’s dead and gone.”

    #78935
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Wow, wonze upon a time, one’s pangolins escaped.

    #78936
    absolute galore
    Participant

    It’s the first of the month, so I get to read two or three articles from the august NYT.
    Here is the latest way to attack Ivermectin. Slip a single mention of it in an article about the most far-fetched claims to damn it by association.

    Note that the author dwells on Hydroxychloroquine, since that medicine will probably never make a comeback, but only mentions Ivermectin once in the entire piece. Note “early treatment” in scare quotes, as though that were simply beyond the pale–there is no answer except the high tech vaccines, brought to you by Big Pharma. Shame on the president for even suggesting other approaches. Note the smarmy “OK, Miracatu does not have a hospital. But still…” Miracatu is a municipality with about 20,000 residents, would not be surprising if it did not have a hospital, although google maps says it does. Nonetheless, there are hospitals nearby. It’s a cheap shot that only weakens her “reporting.”

    Lots of ridicule of people’s various beliefs. Can you blame them, what with all the official propaganda and flipflopping BS? Author, who is not a medical expert but “a contributing Opinion writer who focuses on Brazilian politics, culture and everyday life” reports only 13% of Brazilians are vaccinated.

    Miracle Cures and Magnetic People. Brazil’s Fake News Is Utterly Bizarre.

    SÃO PAULO, Brazil — Hydroxychloroquine is not effective against Covid-19. No. Definitely not. But Brazilians still aren’t sure. After all, just the other day a friend’s cousin forwarded a headline on WhatsApp claiming that all I.C.U. beds in the city of Miracatu are empty because the mayor adopted President Jair Bolsonaro’s “early treatment” — consisting of hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and azithromycin — for Covid-19. OK, Miracatu does not have a hospital. But still: How can we be sure?

    #78937
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Next month in WaPo: Ivermectin is racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic.

    #78940

    simba

    #78941

    mutant

    #78942
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Recall the new Fed Chair’s hope for normalizing interest rates and somewhat weening the markets from Fed backstopping was DOA following the late-2018 eruption of market instability. Powell’s dovish “pivot” reversed what would have been a destabilizing de-risking/deleveraging episode. The Fed’s charts confirm that speculative leverage was expanding again by early-2019, only to begin a downturn during that summer’s bout of repo market instability.

    Rather than tolerate a much overdue – and greatly needed – adjustment for a dangerously over-leveraged marketplace, the Fed resorted in September 2019 to so-called “insurance” stimulus – QE in the face of near-record stock prices and multi-decade low unemployment. This is key, and I doubt history will get this right. The Fed used extreme monetary stimulus to bolster an increasingly fragile leveraged speculating community – not to support either a weakening economy or a problematic Credit slowdown. Simply, the Fed moved to sustain the Bubble.”

    Covid was used to save a bubble, the power and wealth of the 1%

    #78944
    Mr. House
    Participant


    In my March 20, 2020, CBB, I wrote: “I understand we can’t allow the system to collapse, but Please Don’t Completely Destroy the Soundness of Central Bank Credit and Government Debt. Does anyone realize what’s at stake?”

    Too many times over recent decades my worst fears have been realized. And over the past 15 months, the worst-case scenario has materialized. The Fed’s March 2020 system bailout reversed speculative deleveraging, and then almost $4.0 TN of QE fueled historic Bubble blow-off excess.”

    Were we fighting the plague or were we fighting deflation?

    #78945
    Mr. House
    Participant


    When it comes to today’s scary markets, housing is but one of many. And this notion gaining traction associating the Fed’s MBS purchases with surging home prices is misplaced. It is the awry Treasury market – the foundation of market prices – that has become the epicenter of dangerous levered speculation and epic market distortions that feed through to asset market Bubbles.

    I just can’t shake the notion that Treasuries have one eye on Chinese financial fragility. It’s worth noting that Chinese stocks took it on the chin late in the week after the communist party’s 100-year anniversary powwow. From my vantage point, it sure appeared hubris aplenty for a system hoisted by one of history’s most spectacular Credit Bubbles (with cracks abounding). ”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-verge-contraction-after-sudden-plunge-services-pmi

    #78946
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Look how they’ve forced you to react to a “public health crisis”, and just wait how they force you to react to the final financial crisis (spoiler: you aren’t going to like it, but you’ll own nothing ;))

    #78947
    Noirette
    Participant

    from previous thread. Unvaxed ppl are variant factories.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/03/health/unvaccinated-variant-factories/index.html

    I am not a virologist nor even a medico but it appears to me, i.e. as far as I understand it, the very opposite is the case.

    What plagues (sic) me is that in the MSM and the ‘experts’ quoted, we hear about ‘mutations’ – everyone understands the sort of random changes (errors in replication, like typos..) that are take place, and that these can lead to viruses that are more XYZ – contagious, deadly, ineffective, etc.

    While coronaviruses mutate (of course) they also re-combine, that is, when two versions, a and b, are present, they may exchange little pieces, leading to ‘new variants’ — I’m not clear on what is / not defined as a variant, how consequent does the change have to be? Anyone?

    Obviously (some) vaxxes introduce more viral particles just hanging around waiting to ‘recombine’… What happens for ex. in the body of someone who is infected with /COV/ and gets vaxxed with the J and J? Does this provide re-combination opportunites in that body?

    Maybe this is off the beam, erroneous, or sorely incomplete, but …why isn’t this discussed? And why doesn’t prudence prevail? Ok, questions are tongue in cheek.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombinant_virus

    #78948
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    #78950
    Mr. House
    Participant

    I thought this was an excellent comment:

    MyLadyHumps
    Jul 3, 2021 at 2:20 pm

    “where is the money coming from?” You have quite the sense of humor. I will assume you are being sarcastic.

    Your economy is not complicated (or productive):
    1) your government gets huge sums of currency from the Fed to monetize reckless spending
    2) the government hands out the money to buy votes and receive kick backs from wealthy donors
    3) your citizens spend the currency on products made by productive foreigners
    4) productive foreigners receive no goods in exchange and buy up USA hard assets to get something for their effort
    5) Americans complain that assets are too expensive
    6) the process repeats endlessly until foreigners own your companies, your farm land, your utilities (including water), your infrastructure, your parks and your house.
    7) you are a wage slave

    Enjoy your plastic baubles – aren’t they fun.

    #78951

    Noirette et al.

    VanDen Bossche has reacted to the CNN variant factory article, of which I said: “This makes no sense at all. The vaccinated are much more likely to make the virus mutate.” Will be in tomorrow’s Debt Rattle of course.

    The chicken-and-egg problem (which came first?)

    .. non-vaccinated people are not to be considered factories of variants as there is no evidence whatsoever that they transmit more virus or shed for a longer time than asymptomatically infected vaccinees.

    [..] non-vaccinated people are not responsible for selecting immune escape variants and enabling adaptation of increasingly anti-S Ab-resistant variants. Vaccinees, however, are to be seen as the breeding ground and ‘pilot plants’ for these variants.

    #78952
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ absolute galore

    If you want to get past article per month limits you can
    1) switch devices
    2) switch browsers (if you usually use Firefox, switch to chrome or edge)
    3) dump all of your browser’s cookies

    Right now, those limits are generally imposed by placing a cookie in your web browser. It is relatively simple to avoid it.

    #78953
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Thanks to Doc Robinson for answering my question regarding the T-Detect test yesterday and clarifying my understanding of the innate vs. adaptive immune system.

    #78954
    WES
    Participant

    Phoenixvoice:
    Are these cookies chocolate chip or double fudge?

    #78955
    Germ
    Participant
    #78956
    Germ
    Participant

    Israel: Pfizer mRNA vaccine is only 64% effective in preventing coronavirus infection after 2 doses, dropped from 94% in May.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/ministry-data-said-to-show-pfizer-shot-blocks-majority-of-serious-delta-cases/

    #78957
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    Anyone up for a little Climate Rattle?

    Am caught under the never-ending “heat dome”. Fortunate to be very heat tolerant from all the years in SoCA – boating on the Colorado River/Lake Mohave and hiking the San Jacinto Mountains. However, a nearly 30 day streak of 100 degree days has me feeling down. With night time temps at 60-ish there is no overnight recovery before the whole thing cranks up again. I don’t have a/c. My home was strategically built to withstand the heat (for a few days/week @100 degrees – not for weeks/month). By 7 PM it is around 90 degrees in the house, by 8 PM the outside/inside temps meet in the mid 80’s and I crank open all windows, sliders, dormers and ceiling fans. By 10 PM it is finally 80 degrees. At 6 AM the outside temp is 60-ish and inside is 70, I close the house up.

    It’s interesting micro-managing one’s life to the weather in this way. Am grateful for the opportunity to see how I respond under circumstances where I have limited control.

    I will not dwell on how dry the forest is…how all the creeks and waterholes are bone dry, how the vegetation is completely brown. I worry for the deer, foxes, rabbits, birds, and butterflys, and in response maintain several watering stations on my property to ease the situation (no, to ease my mind…that I did SOMETHING nothing is too small). It feels like I am in a surreal, slow motion disaster movie. My intuition tells me things are never going to be the same. (It’s the same intuition that tells me Covid is to be treated = no jab 4 me).

    My post today was inspired by the musings of Jeffrey St. Clair which capture the mood and moment I’m living. The map with his post is fiercely unhappy: https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/07/02/roaming-charges-the-hotter-they-come/

    Love to all. With Gratitude for insight our host serves up daily – BRAVO Ilargi.

    #78958
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ Susmarie108
    Great story

    Roaming Charges: The Hotter They Come

    #78959
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Prepare for mandatory COVID vaccines in September, Army tells commands

    It would be 2 funny if they chose Sputnik. But then, we outsource so much of our militaryy needs already. 😉

    #78960
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The results of an ivermectin trial in Argentina were published on July 2. It seems like the trial was designed to show “Ivermectin had no significant effect.”


    Conclusion

    Ivermectin had no significant effect on preventing hospitalization of patients with COVID-19. [The ivermectin group had 14 hospitalizations, compared to 21 hospitalizations in the placebo group.] Patients who received ivermectin required invasive MVS earlier in their treatment. No significant differences were observed in any of the other secondary outcomes.

    Ivermectin to prevent hospitalizations in patients with COVID-19 (IVERCOR-COVID19) a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial
    BMC Infectious Diseases
    Published: 02 July 2021
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s12879-021-06348-5#Sec2

    I’m neither a medical professional nor a paid researcher, but even I see some significant problems with this study.

    Despite it being a “a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial,” with 250 patients receiving ivermectin, the authors admit that the trial was “underpowered because the hospitalization rate was lower than expected when performed in the sample size calculation.

    The doses of ivermectin were insufficient, compared to the FLCCC’s I-MASK+ Early Patient Protocol which calls for 0.20-0.40 mg/kg given daily for 5 days or until recovered. This trial gave an average dose of 0.19 mg/kg, and only for two days! In the report, the authors admit that their dosage was “below the doses proposed as probably effective.”

    The ivermectin was not given particularly early to many of the patients. About half of the ivermectin group didn’t get the first dose until at least 4 days after symptom onset. Breaking this down further, approximately 25% of the ivermectin group didn’t get the first dose until somewhere in the range of 4-6 days after symptoms started, and another 25% of the group didn’t get the first dose until at least 6 days after symptom onset.
    [“In the group of symptomatic patients, the median time from symptom onset to inclusion [and dose 1] in the study was 4 days (IQR 3–6).” 481 of the 501 participants were symptomatic. Presumably about half of the symptomatic (240) were in the ivermectin group. If the median was 4 days, then about half of the ivermectin group got the first dose 4 days or more after symptom onset. Interquartile Range (IQR) of 3-6 days means that a quarter of the patients were above the range, and a quarter were below.]

    Potential participants were excluded if they had taken any ivermectin in the past 7 days (before the trial). However, this would still allow participants who were taking ivermectin prophylactically at least 8 days prior, which could mean that a number of people in the placebo group were already getting benefits from ivermectin (invalidating the comparisons between the two groups).


    Incredibly it was extremely hard to find patients for the trial. Why? Too many Argentinians it seems were already taking ivermectin.

    Of 15 968 people who tested positive for Covid and were excluded from taking part in the trial, 12 356 could not participate because they were already taking ivermectin.

    The above quote is from a slanted news article about the study, with a misleading headline:
    Ivermectin: Balance of evidence shows no benefit against Covid-19
    https://www.news24.com/health24/medical/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/ivermectin-balance-of-evidence-shows-no-benefit-against-covid-19-20210705

    #78961
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    max

    #78962
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    For the 25% of participants getting ivermectin at least 6 days after symptom onset, the FLCCC’s I-MASK+ Early Patient Protocol recommends 0.4 mg/kg of ivermectin per day for 5 days (or until recovered), but the trial participants were given an average of less than 0.2 mg/kg for only 2 days. The upper dose range is also recommended for patients with multiple comorbidities/risk factors.

    I-MASK+ Protocol

    #78963
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    So this is how liberty dies . . . with thunderous applause for free toxic vaccines.

    Has anyone noticed Frump, Dr. Fraudci, El Presidente Jose & the Super Elite via ALL Western gubermints want to jab you & your chil’rens?

    Can you say genocide? I knew you could…

    #78964
    LudwigVon
    Participant

    Most of the current variants were there before vaxxing started. So it may be that vax accelerates variants, but it is not exclusive.

    #78965
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “a destabilizing de-risking”

    Yeah, who would want to have less risk? That’s just silly. And appropriately pricing and owning risk? Never. If the correct people openly knew and bought the risk voluntarily in an open market, that would be totally crazy. So crazy that if people could have voluntary action, it would be “destabilizing.”

    Yup, that’s it. …Or maybe just in a world where everything is NOT voluntary, all risks are lies, hidden, and mispriced, all losers are protected and all winners are punished, maybe then returning the world to normal, logical, and legal just might be “destabilizing.”

    Sheesh.

    Headed for $2 Trillion a day. Double sheesh. Is there any end to bailing out corrupt idiots by harming honest men?

    #78966
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I’ve had a theory for at least 25 years that the Northern hemisphere would evolve to become Eucalyptus dominated landscape over time. They love heat, mostly only germinate seed from fire and Californians have planted them everywhere – although I suspect the love of Corymbia and Eucalyptus Cameldulensis is the wrong move. Maybe they should look at Eucalyptus Cladocalyx. Loves heat – tolerates cold and grows in 200 mm of average rainfall.

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